QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[F250 29214]

1 hour ago, shadow_operative said:

the ball is in the air and the UW DB is breaking on it, while AD is scrambling to turn his body around. that’s why the UW guy won the jump ball, not because of any PI.

 

 

 

 

[WBT 21007]

Big key to that play was DJ getting beat so quickly off the snap.  I think ideally you'd want to wait a little longer before letting that one go.  DJ recovered somewhat and tried to push him past but Quinn definitely felt the pressure.

[RichUT 1943]

It never ceases to surprise me that people here somehow think they are going to be able to get Derka to change his mind on something. It’s the definition of insanity. The only way to put out a fire is to take away its oxygen, yet most of you fuckers seem to want to throw gasoline on it.

[LTtxfan 50040]

8min mark, Klatt critical of Ewers last 15 secs

 

[jimmyjazz 47361]

I mean, watch that replay.  You can clearly see AD pushing up with his legs and then that upward motion abruptly stops as he falls to his left.  His knees go from bent to straight and then there is no further upward movement.  That doesn't happen without some resisting force.  He tried to jump, but the DB stopped it.

[Vic Mackey 48042]

That was absolutely PI after watching the play many more times. He impeded the receiver from making a legit play on the ball. He couldn't jump up because the DB was holding him down. It was a calculated move by the DB knowing most refs won't have the balls to make that call in that situation. We have seen it with Miami/Ohio St and the KC/Philly Super Bowl for about the same we see on this one.

It's definitely a call you would hate to get called on your team in that spot but by the letter of the rule, it could have been called.

Edited January 3 by Vic Mackey

[SubliminalHorn 7012]

So is it offish that Quinn is coming back? Haven’t seen anything other than a quote from him saying the mission next year is a return to the Sugar Bowl. That sounds like he is coming back, but wondering if it’s offish offish

[Tex Long 4684]

3 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

So is it offish that Quinn is coming back? Haven’t seen anything other than a quote from him saying the mission next year is a return to the Sugar Bowl. That sounds like he is coming back, but wondering if it’s offish offish

 Is the Sugar Bowl the Grande Finale next year?

[South Austin 53313]

You used the word “offish” three times.

[CurlyDumps 4665]

1 minute ago, SubliminalHorn said:

So is it offish that Quinn is coming back? Haven’t seen anything other than a quote from him saying the mission next year is a return to the Sugar Bowl. That sounds like he is coming back, but wondering if it’s offish offish

Not offish offish but the media guys have been talking like it's a foregone conclusion for what seems like a few weeks now. Which makes me wonder if Quinn has already told the staff he's coming back.

[futureman 22724]

can we all just agree that quinn is good but not great and nowhere near his 1.000 recruiting ranking.  but good qbs are nice to have and I’m glad we have him and I hope he comes back. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20956]

1 minute ago, futureman said:

can we all just agree that quinn is good but not great and nowhere near his 1.000 recruiting ranking.  but good qbs are nice to have and I’m glad we have him and I hope he comes back. 

We could probably get much more agreement that you are foul and shitty and nowhere near worth having 28 thousand posts on Surly.

[BigHornedLurker 2183]

3 minutes ago, futureman said:

can we all just agree that quinn is good but not great and nowhere near his 1.000 recruiting ranking.  but good qbs are nice to have and I’m glad we have him and I hope he comes back. 

Entirely too reasonable a take 

[futureman 22724]

4 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

We could probably get much more agreement that you are foul and shitty and nowhere near worth having 28 thousand posts on Surly.

 

[Tex-19 3013]

Experience matters, people. Let's take a look at the age of this year's top QBs:

Jayden Daniels - 23

Penix - 23

Nix - 23

Jordan Travis - 23

Caleb - 22

Maye - 21

Mccarthy (if you consider him a top qb) - 20

And Ewers? 20.

[BurntOrange&White 42025]

wrong thread

Edited January 3 by BurntOrange&White

[shadow_operative 15932]

1 minute ago, Tex-19 said:

Experience matters, people. Let's take a look at the age of this year's top QBs:

Jayden Daniels - 23

Penix - 23

Nix - 23

Jordan Travis - 23

Caleb - 22

Maye - 21

Mccarthy (if you consider him a top qb) - 20

And Ewers? 20.

ewers has been in college for three full seasons and has an heir apparent waiting behind him for no longer than one more year, possibly sooner.

[jimmyjazz 47361]

7 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

ewers has been in college for three full seasons and has an heir apparent waiting behind him for no longer than one more year, possibly sooner.

Penix -- 6 seasons

Daniels -- 5 seasons

Nix -- 5 seasons

Travis -- 6 seasons

 

 

[AnotherLawyer 417]

10 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

one more year, possibly sooner.

Based on what?

[bschoolprof 6352]

@South Austin summarized my thoughts exactly.  

 

But I am puzzled by the whole "coming back/NFL" talk.  Putting aside recruiting rankings and stats juiced by playing for Sark, QE is a wildly inconsistent, better-than-average college QB.  He certainly does not look like an NFL QB.  On that, I'm Tom Hanks in Big with the robot toy.   

[BurntOrange&White 42025]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Penix -- 6 seasons

Daniels -- 5 seasons

Nix -- 5 seasons

Travis -- 6 seasons

 

 

Reality is he's only been in college 2 full years. He enrolled at Ohio State 2 weeks into fall camp. It's not like he was a January enrollee out of HS. 

[South Austin 53313]

18 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

On that, I'm Tom Hanks in Big with the robot toy.   

[shadow_operative 15932]

23 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

Based on what?

QE has missed time in both seasons that he’s been in Austin. if he gets hurt again next year and Arch steps in and does well and/or it’s a season ending injury to QE then that would effectively end his career at Texas. a season at tOSU and two seasons at UT makes for plenty of college experience, and QE isn’t going to play for Texas past the age of 21 anyway. ipso facto all of the stuff about the rest of these QBs being 24 years old with 5+ years of experience is a moo point.

Edited January 3 by shadow_operative

[Hard Times 323]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

8min mark, Klatt critical of Ewers last 15 secs

 

Yes, but as others have pointed out:

Penis - 6 seasons

Ewers - 2 seasons

And how much better would Quinn be if he had Washington's OL? Just another half second of protection and maybe he completes that last pass.

[futureman 22724]

47 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

heir apparent waiting behind him for no longer than one more year, possibly sooner.

arch isn't going to fucking oklahoma, dipshit.

[hobbes2702 13515]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I mean, watch that replay.  You can clearly see AD pushing up with his legs and then that upward motion abruptly stops as he falls to his left.  His knees go from bent to straight and then there is no further upward movement.  That doesn't happen without some resisting force.  He tried to jump, but the DB stopped it.

It would have been an extremely soft PI call. It’s not a very good throw, he’s under pressure and AD is having to adjust while the DB is just reading.

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 3661]

1 hour ago, Hard Times said:

This video shows he was turned around and facing the ball before it arrived. He could've jumped, not easy, but he's supposed to be an NFL draft pick.

If the teams are reversed I have zero doubt Washington gets the DPI call there. Would have been nice if AD attempted to sell it even a little bit.
 

LJH makes that catch btw.

[BurntOrange&White 42025]

1 minute ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

If the teams are reversed I have zero doubt Washington gets the DPI call there. Would have been nice if AD attempted to sell it even a little bit.
 

LJH makes that catch btw.

No he doesn't because LJH and his team and coach are no where close to playing in a CFP.

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 3661]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

No he doesn't because LJH and his team and coach are no where close to playing in a CFP.

LJH slander? Cmon, dude was a baller here. Who gives af about Tom Herman.

 

[Hard Times 323]

5 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

If the teams are reversed I have zero doubt Washington gets the DPI call there. Would have been nice if AD attempted to sell it even a little bit.
 

LJH makes that catch btw.

It would have been called DPI if a Texas DB just looked at the DB wrong, but in most cases I don't think so, just too bang bang. Now if we start reviewing all these plays in super slo mo and make the games 5 hrs, then it may be called. One things for sure though, it'll be debated until Texas makes it's next CFP.

[futureman 22724]

11 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

LJH makes that catch btw.

[USNALonghorn 5202]

6 minutes ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

LJH slander? Cmon, dude was a baller here. Who gives af about Tom Herman.

 

LHJ would be a fucking terror in Sark’s offense. DevDuv probably wins the Blietnikoff under Sark.

[victory88 5785]

Appreciate Quinn at Texas.  Dude improved a ton this year.  But watching Penix and then watching Quinn, it's night and day.  1 dude was THE man and made plays for his team meanwhile Quinn more so manages the game and plays within in the offense.  He's just a bit more robotic, has poor pocket presence, poor footwork and is okay in his progressions.  Quinn has had crazy unrealistic expectations put on him due to his 1.0 ranking coming out of high school but he was also waaaaay over-rated coming out.  Dude probably should have been a high 4 star.  We're in a lucky spot if he comes back because he has shown we can make the CFP with him and be competitive with him.  With all that said, I think Arch has a better arm, better pocket feel, is more athletic, and will be much better with progressions with game reps.  I hope Sark starts the best guy after spring practice regardless of who it is. 

[TexEx15 17962]

1 hour ago, South Austin said:

You used the word “offish” three times.

Look “official” is just entirely too long to spell out.

[Surly Bevo 25788]

5 minutes ago, victory88 said:

With all that said, I think Arch has a better arm, better pocket feel, is more athletic, and will be much better with progressions with game reps.  I hope Sark starts the best guy after spring practice regardless of who it is. 

I hope you are right but…..Until Arch takes a snap against a team that is within 10 points of Texas you can’t say definitively a single bit of what you just said.

You can hope it…but that’s it.
 

 

[Deej 77913]

8 minutes ago, victory88 said:

Appreciate Quinn at Texas.  Dude improved a ton this year.  But watching Penix and then watching Quinn, it's night and day.  1 dude was THE man and made plays for his team meanwhile Quinn more so manages the game and plays within in the offense.  He's just a bit more robotic, has poor pocket presence, poor footwork and is okay in his progressions.  Quinn has had crazy unrealistic expectations put on him due to his 1.0 ranking coming out of high school but he was also waaaaay over-rated coming out.  Dude probably should have been a high 4 star.  We're in a lucky spot if he comes back because he has shown we can make the CFP with him and be competitive with him.  With all that said, I think Arch has a better arm, better pocket feel, is more athletic, and will be much better with progressions with game reps.  I hope Sark starts the best guy after spring practice regardless of who it is. 

It's almost like a guy who has played six seasons should be better.

[futureman 22724]

11 minutes ago, victory88 said:

I think Arch has a better arm, better pocket feel, is more athletic, and will be much better with progressions with game reps.

how in the world do you come up with this?  because his name is manning?  surely not based on his highschool gametape against white kids running 5.1

[elguapo 4621]

13 minutes ago, victory88 said:

Appreciate Quinn at Texas.  Dude improved a ton this year.  But watching Penix and then watching Quinn, it's night and day.  1 dude was THE man and made plays for his team meanwhile Quinn more so manages the game and plays within in the offense.  He's just a bit more robotic, has poor pocket presence, poor footwork and is okay in his progressions.  Quinn has had crazy unrealistic expectations put on him due to his 1.0 ranking coming out of high school but he was also waaaaay over-rated coming out.  Dude probably should have been a high 4 star.  We're in a lucky spot if he comes back because he has shown we can make the CFP with him and be competitive with him.  With all that said, I think Arch has a better arm, better pocket feel, is more athletic, and will be much better with progressions with game reps.  I hope Sark starts the best guy after spring practice regardless of who it is. 

6th year college QB with NFL talent is a lot better than 3rd year college QB with NFL talent who should really be in his 2nd year, shocking!!!!!

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20956]

8 minutes ago, Deej said:

It's almost like a guy who has played six seasons should be better.

Quinn was considerably better in his second year as a starter than Penix was in his ... and Quinn was playing better defenses.

 

Edited January 3 by Horn Under a Bad Sign

[South Austin 53313]

3 minutes ago, futureman said:

how in the world do you come up with this?  because his name is manning?  surely not based on his highschool gametape against white kids running 5.1

Some folks just know after 2-5 in passing for the 2023 season and some footage from the Spring scrimmage.

[SubliminalHorn 7012]

11 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Look “official” is just entirely too long to spell out.

💅🏽 ikr

[LateAughtsHorn 588]

19 minutes ago, victory88 said:

Appreciate Quinn at Texas.  Dude improved a ton this year.  But watching Penix and then watching Quinn, it's night and day.  1 dude was THE man and made plays for his team meanwhile Quinn more so manages the game and plays within in the offense.  He's just a bit more robotic, has poor pocket presence, poor footwork and is okay in his progressions.  Quinn has had crazy unrealistic expectations put on him due to his 1.0 ranking coming out of high school but he was also waaaaay over-rated coming out.  Dude probably should have been a high 4 star.  We're in a lucky spot if he comes back because he has shown we can make the CFP with him and be competitive with him.  With all that said, I think Arch has a better arm, better pocket feel, is more athletic, and will be much better with progressions with game reps.  I hope Sark starts the best guy after spring practice regardless of who it is. 

Not sure what the point is of comparing Quinn to a guy who signed his LOI nearly two years before covid was a thing. Sure, more time doesn't guarantee Quinn ever gets to that point, but that's a ridiculous standard to hold him to at this point in his career. 

[jw4381 3254]

On 1/2/2024 at 9:44 AM, Da Fino said:

Flood is going to put that on his guys. A d-lineman leaving his feet or putting his hands up should always end up hard on the ground. 

I’ve convinced myself that approach was a specific part of the UW defensive game plan. They scouted the low trajectory of some of Ewer’s throws and it was part of Deboer’s wizardry in that game. 

[MirrOlure 15332]

Lol...Manning hasn't been in a live-action pocket in a competitive game in over a year.  But he has better pocket presence....

[jimmyjazz 47361]

Ultimately, if Ewers comes back, it's a helluva "problem" to have.  Two highly regarded recruits, one of whom has proven that he can develop (and who can hopefully develop further) vs another who is a virtual unknown at this point.

[Not a cat 5821]

14 minutes ago, futureman said:

how in the world do you come up with this?  because his name is manning?  surely not based on his highschool gametape against white kids running 5.1

I'm a little sick of people making fun of white kids that ran 5.1 in high school.  We're people too, dammit.

[LateAughtsHorn 588]

3 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

Lol...Manning hasn't been in a live-action pocket in a competitive game in over a year.  But he has better pocket presence....

Dude. Every qb that is ever going to be worthwhile looks like a Heisman runner up right out of the womb. Didn't you know? 

[Gene Parmesan 4091]

Manning looked quicker than Ewers, but that's all I would say definitively.  

[jimmyjazz 47361]

3 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

I'm a little sick of people making fun of white kids that ran 5.1 in high school.  We're people too, dammit.

My white kid was an all-district sprinter in high school.  I . . . was not.  I learned my place when I challenged him to a race on the beach in Florida.  At the time, he was probably a 5th grader.  I'm pretty sure I blew out my hamstring on stride 4, but it wouldn't have mattered, I was toast.

I would aspire to a PR of 5.1 in my life (maybe 6.1 if I'm being honest).  Hey to Rich Eisen.

[Not a cat 5821]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

My white kid was an all-district sprinter in high school.  I . . . was not.  I learned my place when I challenged him to a race on the beach in Florida.  At the time, he was probably a 5th grader.  I'm pretty sure I blew out my hamstring on stride 4, but it wouldn't have mattered, I was toast.

I would aspire to a PR of 5.1 in my life (maybe 6.1 if I'm being honest).  Hey to Rich Eisen.

My son turned out to be a white kid that ran a 5.0 in high school.  So we just need to stay on that improvement trajectory and my great, great, great, great grandson will be kicking major ass at the slot position.