QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

Just now, EastTexan said:

Yea, but that little td scamper by Arch scares the shit outta ousux, jawja and everyone else. But, right now Quinn is our best bet forward when he's recovered.

I doubt it scares the shit out of any good team. If I’m playing Texas, I’d much rather have him trying to run the ball so we can get shots at him than have him looking at second and third reads from the pocket. He’s no Wingo, Bond, Cook, Golden, etc.

It’s not a look they’d see with Ewers in the game, so that’s something, but I doubt it’s going to keep anyone up at night, especially knowing if Manning is in Owen is probably next up. 

[TexArcher 37971]

Yeah, I don't think that Arch option run is getting called against ou or Georgia.

[EastTexan 662]

3 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

I doubt it scares the shit out of any good team. If I’m playing Texas, I’d much rather have him trying to run the ball so we can get shots at him than have him looking at second and third reads from the pocket. He’s no Wingo, Bond, Cook, Golden, etc.

It’s not a look they’d see with Ewers in the game, so that’s something, but I doubt it’s going to keep anyone up at night, especially knowing if Manning is in Owen is probably next up. 

Did not say or imply that Arch was a running qb. Just that he is not a statue. And Quinn is the man for this season.

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

Just now, EastTexan said:

Did not say or imply that Arch was a running qb. Just that he is not a statue. And Quinn is the man for this season.

Quinn isn’t a statue, either, though, so I’m not sure how much actual difference there is other than one looks to find secondary receivers better. 

[EastTexan 662]

1 minute ago, Doc Daneeka said:

Quinn isn’t a statue, either, though, so I’m not sure how much actual difference there is other than one looks to find secondary receivers better. 

I am agreeing with you man.

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

Just now, EastTexan said:

I am agreeing with you man.

And I’m agreeing with you other than the claim that the DCs at top programs are scared by that run. 

[MirrOlure 14790]

Not telling anyone anything they don’t know, …

The whole Heisman discussion at this point is of course ridiculous. He was on fire when he went out. We’ve got a scrimmage next week and SEC roadkill the next game.

He picks up where he left off and we steamroll our way to the Conference Championship nobody will even remember he missed a couple of games and he’ll win it.

And…in the worst case scenario that he’s out for an extended period of time…well then no shit, he won win the Heisman.

If his odds continue to fall a couple hundred would be a worthy investment

[EastTexan 662]

1 minute ago, Doc Daneeka said:

And I’m agreeing with you other than the claim that the DCs at top programs are scared by that run. 

I was kinda being surly with that statement. but it will give the DCs something to think about.

Thanks to Sark and co, we are in pretty good shape. 

[Post Oak 20241]

My wife has informed me that I have some extra abdomen if Quinn needs to borrow some. 

Mouthy broad

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

Just now, EastTexan said:

I was kinda being surly with that statement. but it will give the DCs something to think about.

Thanks to Sark and co, we are in pretty good shape. 

Agreed. I mean, Sarkisian says that’s never what this offense is going to be, but it’s something they have in their back pocket. Honestly, though, if I’m in the position and Manning is the go-to guy, if I call anything like that Manning slides at the first sign of impending contact and I have  a pass built off that look. 

[Nueces River Rat 5539]

 

Typical Sunday morning reading on Surly.    Win or lose.  

[Brisketexan 105154]

My wife has informed me that I have some extra abdomen if Quinn needs to borrow some. 
Mouthy broad

Yeah…I had a strained abdomen once.

It was related to an ill-advised and over-indulgent trip to Pancho’s back in ‘89.

[Frank Drebin 5643]

47 minutes ago, UTGrad98 said:

If Ewers is out until ou I think it gives us an advantage, however small, that ou will have to gameplan for both quinn and arch along with arch's added mobility. 

We don't need it to beat their ass this year.

[Eggo 3977]

49-0 after missing 3 games. 

Never forget the TD to Sanders where he tossed it and walked off the field to smoke another cigarette without his pulse even rising. 

[Codaxx 5758]

14 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

Quinn isn’t a statue, either, though, so I’m not sure how much actual difference there is other than one looks to find secondary receivers better. 

Arch is definitely a better athlete. They claimed he hit 20.7 mph on his TD run. I do think Arch will eventually surpass Ewers, but that day is at least a year or 2 down the road. Arch was a little slower to process reads. Missed the blitz. Not surprising for a kid getting his first real action. Arch will likely get there, but his ability to read defenses is behind Quinn’s right now. I hate to see Ewers injured. It’s never good to lose a starting QB, but if it had to happen this was perhaps the best time for it. Arch getting some live bullets has the potential to really help this team down the road 

[Frank Drebin 5643]

Just now, Eggo said:

49-0 after missing 3 games. 

Never forget the TD to Sanders where he tossed it and walked off the field to smoke another cigarette without his pulse even rising. 

He started walking off while the ball was still in flight.

[MirrOlure 14790]

Yeah…I had a strained abdomen once.

It was related to an ill-advised and over-indulgent trip to Pancho’s back in ‘89.

Yeah…sometimes that little flag gets stuck and you have to yank on it. Been there…

[jimmyjazz 45972]

3 hours ago, Thatguy said:

But here is what we do know, what the fuck Quinn looks like vs a Bama or a Georgia.

Minor nit:  we don't know what he looks like against Georgia.

[Thatguy 8743]

18 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah…I had a strained abdomen once.

It was related to an ill-advised and over-indulgent trip to Pancho’s back in ‘89.

Pancho's Mexican Buffet?

[B00M 6416]

51 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Quinn does not take the sack from behind that Arch never saw coming last night. 

Yeah that was definitely a welcome to college football moment for Arch. That might have been an injury against UGA. Kentucky’s QB was getting lit up on basically every throw late in that game last night. These are invaluable reps for Arch and we’re lucky they’re happening against lesser opponents. 

[BurgleBro 795]

When's his damn MRI scheduled

[B00M 6416]

Just now, BurgleBro said:

When's his damn MRI scheduled

Do we really devote the medical resources of an MRI on a minor injury like this? He'll be 100% in a few weeks. Just don’t rush him back. 

[TexArcher 37971]

Also, we might not be talking enough about how well Quinn and Arch have handled this situation.  

It's a credit to each of them and to the coaching staff.

We legitimately have 2 of the top 10 quarterbacks in college football without really having a quarterback controversy.  That's pretty remarkable.

[Valmy77 13239]

2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Also, we might not be talking enough about how well Quinn and Arch have handled this situation.  

It's a credit to each of them and to the coaching staff.

We legitimately have 2 of the top 10 quarterbacks in college football without really having a quarterback controversy.  That's pretty remarkable.

I was thinking about Mack Brown's idiotic comment after he was all butthurt about the Sims-Applewhite thing "if you have two Quarterbacks, you have no Quarterbacks."

Um...no Mack. If you have two Quarterbacks, you have two Quarterbacks which might be a really nice thing if one were to...I don't know...get injured at a key moment. It would sure be unfortunate if that were to happen to your team after you worked so hard to never have a QB controversy again.

[Voluminous Banality 1032]

47 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Look, I get what you are saying but if you get injured ever year you play football including now a freak injury you are certainly injury prone. Bad luck can be part of that equation but the reality is Ewers gets hurt a lot. At least now we have a legit backup QB to get us through unlike last year when we were holding on for dear life when Murphy stepped in. 

With apologies for the pedantry, that's actually not what 'prone' means. 'Prone' isn't backward-looking--how many times someone has been injured in the past--it's forward-looking, i.e. more susceptible to injury and therefore more likely to be injured again in the future, which I am positing is not the case.

I may be wrong, but I'm hoping for the best for Quinn's future and for the team's prospects this year in what could be a special season.

[Not a Sock 2313]

1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

He's getting those odds because the casinos know some people are dumb enough to take them and he's going right back to the bench as soon as Quinn is healthy.  As he should.

Arch's talent level is almost shocking.  But Quinn is the better all-around QB at this point, and it's really not close.  Quinn does not take the sack from behind that Arch never saw coming last night.  Quinn is battle tested in big games and Arch isn't.  Etc.

Arch is gonna be great, don't get me wrong.  But Quinn is already there.

People seem to be forgetting the lumps that Quinn took to get to where he currently is. We don't get Bama and Michigan Quinn with out first getting 2022 OSU and TCU Quinn, Arch is going to have to have those games to be as good as he can be but it's going to result in an L or two for Texas.

[txduck87 985]

Pancho's Mexican Buffet?

[Newy25 7691]

19 minutes ago, Voluminous Banality said:

With apologies for the pedantry, that's actually not what 'prone' means. 'Prone' isn't backward-looking--how many times someone has been injured in the past--it's forward-looking, i.e. more susceptible to injury and therefore more likely to be injured again in the future, which I am positing is not the case.

I may be wrong, but I'm hoping for the best for Quinn's future and for the team's prospects this year in what could be a special season.

Very pedantic. You only earn that description when you get injured a lot. He’s been injured multiple ways now and it’s very reasonable to say the guy is injury prone. He’s had bad luck (Anderson landing on him), poor decisions (going head first in the Houston game) and strains and pulls associated with a body that’s prone to injury. Ewers is injury prone. 

Edited September 15 by Newy25

[Tex Long 4401]

50 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

He started walking off while the ball was still in flight.

Almost all of us can see into the past, but only some of us see into the future with any real accuracy.

[Yesh 927]

Reminds me of Whittington, who had the hernia issue from high school, and then in 2021 he broke his clavicle during a tackle and people were saying he would never be healthy.  Those injuries had nothing to do with each other.

[tbone_ 14128]

My wife has informed me that I have some extra abdomen if Quinn needs to borrow some. 
Mouthy broad

Certainly you pointed out her extra rear end in response, right?

[Post Oak 20241]

1 minute ago, tbone_ said:

Certainly you pointed out her extra rear end in response, right?

Fuck no

[Sgt Hulk 13785]

Guys. I don’t wanna throw a wrench in the works here. 
 

But Trey Owens os 6’5 220 and showed a lot to me last night   He’s built for the long term and I think he has the highest upside of all 3. 

[huge 3793]

4 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Guys. I don’t wanna throw a wrench in the works here. 
 

But Trey Owens os 6’5 220 and showed a lot to me last night   He’s built for the long term and I think he has the highest upside of all 3. 

I'll have some of what you are smoking plz

[Tex Long 4401]

7 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Certainly you pointed out her extra rear end in response, right?

 "No, sweetie, the pants don't make your butt look big. No, ma'am. It's not the pants."

 

[closetojumping 62745]

I realize that some of posters are wired to dismiss the premise that humans often incorporate emotion into their decisions. Folks only used objective data points and then act. Right.

Tell that to the NFL. Part of the feedback that the Ewers camp received when thinking through whether Ewers would come back was that many teams would like to see him play a full season and stay healthy. It’s impacted his draft rank. Argue over whether terms like “injury prone” are appropriate or not, but in the real world, his injury history is a mark on him and last night didn’t help. 

Also:

 

[Magus Ossis 2801]

25 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Very pedantic. You only earn that description when you get injured a lot. He’s been injured multiple ways now and it’s very reasonable to say the guy is injury prone. He’s had bad luck (Anderson landing on him), poor decisions (going head first in the Houston game) and strains and pulls associated with a body that’s prone to injury. Ewers is injury prone. 

This. Our evidence for what is likely in the future is what has happened repeatedly in the past. Prone doesn't inherently refer to the past or future anyway-- in this usage it merely (figuratively) means inclined (toward).

[Cairn Horn88 8271]

Arch hasn’t a game on his shoulders yet, where he’s had to win it for the team….he looks good when coming in off the bench.  Hope he will continue to improve.

[MissingInAction 25106]

I'm pedanting a lot today. 

[DanTheHorn 4931]

12 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

I actually think Manning is better than Ewers right now and gives us the best shot to win a title this year. 

OK Skip Bayless with your Troy Aikman take.

[TXpride 546]

32 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

People seem to be forgetting the lumps that Quinn took to get to where he currently is. We don't get Bama and Michigan Quinn with out first getting 2022 OSU and TCU Quinn, Arch is going to have to have those games to be as good as he can be but it's going to result in an L or two for Texas.

That team had a lot of holes and Quinn was still very raw. Arch may have some struggles but I doubt it'll be that bad. He's stepping into a much better situation.

[oldhorn2 431]

I have to ask....it seemed to me that the play before Ewers had to struggle to get upfield that he handed to the running back and was then clobbered.....I do not remember a QB getting injured on a hand off before, but after that play he completed one pass.....struggled to get upfield ....ran one more play untouched and just went down.

 

Did I miss something?

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I realize that some of posters are wired to dismiss the premise that humans often incorporate emotion into their decisions. Folks only used objective data points and then act. Right.

Tell that to the NFL. Part of the feedback that the Ewers camp received when thinking through whether Ewers would come back was that many teams would like to see him play a full season and stay healthy. It’s impacted his draft rank. Argue over whether terms like “injury prone” are appropriate or not, but in the real world, his injury history is a mark on him and last night didn’t help. 

Also:

 

You don’t really believe what that photo implies, do you?

[Bill Lumbergh 7171]

3 minutes ago, oldhorn2 said:

I have to ask....it seemed to me that the play before Ewers had to struggle to get upfield that he handed to the running back and was then clobbered.....I do not remember a QB getting injured on a hand off before, but after that play he completed one pass.....struggled to get upfield ....ran one more play untouched and just went down.

 

Did I miss something?

No

[oldhorn2 431]

1 minute ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

No

any reply that eloquent has to get pos rep

 

[WBT 20606]

8 minutes ago, oldhorn2 said:

I have to ask....it seemed to me that the play before Ewers had to struggle to get upfield that he handed to the running back and was then clobbered.....I do not remember a QB getting injured on a hand off before, but after that play he completed one pass.....struggled to get upfield ....ran one more play untouched and just went down.

 

Did I miss something?

Clobbered?  That was pretty light contact.

You pull a muscle from exertion not contact anyway.

[B00M 6416]

1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

Yeah, I don't think that Arch option run is getting called against ou or Georgia.

At least not until the playoffs or we find ourselves in a must-win prior to that

[Not a Sock 2313]

18 minutes ago, oldhorn2 said:

I have to ask....it seemed to me that the play before Ewers had to struggle to get upfield that he handed to the running back and was then clobbered.....I do not remember a QB getting injured on a hand off before, but after that play he completed one pass.....struggled to get upfield ....ran one more play untouched and just went down.

 

Did I miss something?

On the hand off he didn't get clobbered but the defender did kind of hook him in his abdomen and spin him around.

[closetojumping 62745]

14 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

You don’t really believe what that photo implies, do you?

Are you emotionally invested in Quinn Ewers in such a way that what another poster believes would bother you? 

Texas has multiple high picks in the QB room. I hope Ewers gets back quickly for the overall depth. Will I give a shit if Manning takes over the starting role because Ewers is sidelined for weeks? No. I also won’t give a shit if Ewers is out for weeks and then is immediately the starter again. 

Acting as if Manning couldn’t take over and never look back if Ewers can’t go for awhile is silly wishcasting or shows a general lack of understanding the game of football while watching. Manning has looked good every time he’s been put on the field, he wasn’t ranked the #1 recruit in the country for nothing, and the more snaps he gets under fire, the smaller the gap gets in terms of understanding this offense and the looks defenses are going to give it. 

Quinn’s MRI today needs to go well and he needs to get back asap so none of these possible futures play out and muddy up the season. 

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Are you emotionally invested in Quinn Ewers in such a way that what another poster believes would bother you? 

Texas has multiple high picks in the QB room. I hope Ewers gets back quickly for the overall depth. Will I give a shit if Manning takes over the starting role because Ewers is sidelined for weeks? No. I also won’t give a shit if Ewers is out for weeks and then is immediately the starter again. 

Acting as if Manning couldn’t take over and never look back if Ewers can’t go for awhile is silly wishcasting or shows a general lack of understanding the game of football while watching. Manning has looked good every time he’s been put on the field, he wasn’t ranked the #1 recruit in the country for nothing, and the more snaps he gets under fire, the smaller the gap gets in terms of understanding this offense and the looks defenses are going to give it. 

Quinn’s MRI today needs to go well and he needs to get back asap so none of these possible futures play out and muddy up the season. 

No, I’m not emotionally invested. I’m asking what your opinion is. 

Wally Pipp didn’t take over for “weeks.”

The “if Ewers can’t go” is the crux of the issue, though. If Ewers can’t go, of course Manning plays.

A photo of Wally Pipp doesn’t imply “waiting for Ewers to be good to go,” though. 

Edited September 15 by Doc Daneeka