QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[4th and 5 5006]

Hopefully not the sports hernia that sidelined him for half the year in high school. But his emotional reaction to the injury seems to imply that he thinks that might be the case.

[closetojumping 65543]

8 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

No, I’m not emotionally invested. I’m asking what your opinion is. 

Wally Pipp didn’t take over for “weeks.”

The “if Ewers can’t go” is the crux of the issue, though. If Ewers can’t go, of course Manning plays.

A photo of Wally Pipp doesn’t imply “waiting for Ewers to be good to go,” though. 

Wally Pipp as a reference is pretty fucking clear. Ewers is likely Wally Pipp’ed as of last night if he can’t go for awhile. I assume you grasp that. Your last post reads like tautology. 

[Hermanator 7715]

6 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

^^that. He’s making hard shit look simple. 14/16 for 2 TDs to start the game and it barely fucking registered because he made it look boring. 

It's like against Michigan. Wink comes out in a 50 Bear front with a cover 3 shell behind it and at the snap drops off 2 from the front but brings 2 LB. So still a 50 front rushing 5 and dropping 6 but completely different from the pre-snap read. That rushing front also has the best rated DT in college football and the back 6 has the best rated CB in college football. 

Arch isn't to the place yet where he processes that in real time and beats it before the rush gets home. Quinn crushed it. That's the difference. And that's why we need Quinn against teams who can bring different looks and change post snap but with All conference/All American level players not UTSA level players. 

People who think Arch is ready now are just ignorant of how the game works and what's needed at QB. He'll get there, probably by next season, but he's not there yet. 

Edited September 15 by Hermanator

[Hornbeliever 744]

both look fairly equally talented but experience reduces risk/variance (in theory, don’t look at Charlie’s decisions in year 1 vs year 3 or theory busted) so this could be blessing in long run so Arch becomes more consistent.

I can’t judge what Arch can do against a good defense yet but can judge Quinn.  So I hope Arch gets his experience while Quinn heals and then Quinn comes back and rips shit up again.

[Doc Daneeka 6797]

Just now, closetojumping said:

Wally Pipp as a reference is pretty fucking clear. Ewers is likely Wally Pipp’ed as of last night if he can’t go for awhile. I assume you grasp that. Your last post reads like tautology. 

Wally Pipp got replaced for all eternity. Wally Pipp opted out for a minor injury (according to the story, which isn’t true, either). Neither applies here. Apparently it’s not as clear a reference to you as it should be.

[Newy25 7954]

3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Wally Pipp as a reference is pretty fucking clear. Ewers is likely Wally Pipp’ed as of last night if he can’t go for awhile. I assume you grasp that. Your last post reads like tautology. 

If Ewers gets Pipp’ed it will take both the combination of his strain being more than minor and Arch developing on a faster learning curve than Ewers. It’s possible that in 4-5 weeks Arch is noticeably better and it’s also possible he needs more time. Either way, the waters are definitely muddy at that point. 

[Newy25 7954]

1 minute ago, Doc Daneeka said:

Wally Pipp got replaced for all eternity. Wally Pipp opted out for a minor injury (according to the story, which isn’t true, either). Neither applies here. Apparently it’s not as clear a reference to you as it should be.

The myth of what happened to Wally Pipp has become reality. It’s a pretty clear reference now. Or Drew Bledsoe’ed if you like. 

[Doc Daneeka 6797]

1 minute ago, Newy25 said:

The myth of what happened to Wally Pipp has become reality. It’s a pretty clear reference now. Or Drew Bledsoe’ed if you like. 

Both imply Ewers lost the starting job. My question is whether that’s actually being implied. Because “he got hurt and he’ll be back when he’s ready” is SOP and doesn’t require a reference to Pipp. 

Edited September 15 by Doc Daneeka

[dcar00 15005]

8 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Wally Pipp as a reference is pretty fucking clear. Ewers is likely Wally Pipp’ed as of last night if he can’t go for awhile. I assume you grasp that. Your last post reads like tautology. 

Romo'd

[Doc Daneeka 6797]

Just now, dcar00 said:

Romo'd

At least Gehrig and Brady accomplished great things. What a shitshow being Romo’ed would be. 

[Surly Bevo 25787]

For reference, I was at the SLC-Keller game in 2020 where Ewers was hurt in his Jr (and last) year at SLC.  It kind of had a similar feel to this where he took some shots but nothing devastating and left the game midway through.  That was the 2020 Covid season so that game at the end of October was like the 3rd or 4th game of the season.  Ewers did not show back up under center for SLC (they didn't need him) until week 2 of the playoffs in late December.  Soooo if he perceives this to be the same injury, could be why he initially seemed to be upset last night.  Now who knows if it is the same thing for sure, and even if it is if severity is same, but that is at least the history for him on what may be the same type of injury.

[tbone_ 14482]

I'm pedanting a lot today. 

So is your mom

[dcar00 15005]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah…I had a strained abdomen once.

It was related to an ill-advised and over-indulgent trip to Pancho’s back in ‘89.

I didn't know Pancho went that way...NTTIAWWT

[mwaadeeb 1372]

Arch could go 100 for 100 with 25 touchdowns in the next three games and he's still not starting against OU if Quinn is healthy. 

[ckhorn 226]

2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Pancho's Mexican Buffet?

There is still one in Humble if you guys ever want to revisit the good old days.

[South Austin 53302]

1 minute ago, mwaadeeb said:

Arch could go 100 for 100 with 25 touchdowns in the next three games and he's still not starting against OU if Quinn is healthy. 

What if he goes 101 for 101 with 26 touchdowns?

[Tex Long 4683]

59 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

Without searching, I'm gonna assume it's Wally Pipp...

[ckhorn 226]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

I realize that some of posters are wired to dismiss the premise that humans often incorporate emotion into their decisions. Folks only used objective data points and then act. Right.

Tell that to the NFL. Part of the feedback that the Ewers camp received when thinking through whether Ewers would come back was that many teams would like to see him play a full season and stay healthy. It’s impacted his draft rank. Argue over whether terms like “injury prone” are appropriate or not, but in the real world, his injury history is a mark on him and last night didn’t help. 

Also:

 

I'm not saying you're wrong, but it didn't hurt Bryce Young who missed a lot of his sr season and he is wittle.

[mwaadeeb 1372]

6 minutes ago, South Austin said:

What if he goes 101 for 101 with 26 touchdowns?

maybe

[Cody2422 282]

You mother fuckers are retarded. That’s all

[ckhorn 226]

53 minutes ago, WBT said:

Clobbered?  That was pretty light contact.

You pull a muscle from exertion not contact anyway.

I was thinking he may have gotten hurt early in the game when his hand/arm was hit when he threw for the TD and it gradually got worse. That will cause that type of injury when you are torquing your body and it comes to a complete stop by another object. You see BB players do it all the time on a check swing, but IDK.

[dcar00 15005]

My hope is we have the D to play either QB to the title.

[MotownHorn 1909]

44 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Are you emotionally invested in Quinn Ewers in such a way that what another poster believes would bother you? 

Texas has multiple high picks in the QB room. I hope Ewers gets back quickly for the overall depth. Will I give a shit if Manning takes over the starting role because Ewers is sidelined for weeks? No. I also won’t give a shit if Ewers is out for weeks and then is immediately the starter again. 

Acting as if Manning couldn’t take over and never look back if Ewers can’t go for awhile is silly wishcasting or shows a general lack of understanding the game of football while watching. Manning has looked good every time he’s been put on the field, he wasn’t ranked the #1 recruit in the country for nothing, and the more snaps he gets under fire, the smaller the gap gets in terms of understanding this offense and the looks defenses are going to give it. 

Quinn’s MRI today needs to go well and he needs to get back asap so none of these possible futures play out and muddy up the season. 

Let's see Arch against a halfway decent opponent before we start assuming there's no drop off between him and Quinn

[Thatguy 9457]

15 minutes ago, ckhorn said:

There is still one in Humble if you guys ever want to revisit the good old days.

I went a few years back when we moved backed to Texas. think there is one by Almeda Mall. Was it always full of  unwashed plebeians or was that just us too back in the day?

[ckhorn 226]

1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

I went a few years back when we moved backed to Texas. think there is one by Almeda Mall. Was it always full of  unwashed plebeians or was that just us too back in the day? 

I'm pretty sure its been closed for awhile now.

Edited September 15 by ckhorn

[6th Street 6711]

[tx 3 putt 78794]

 

[closetojumping 65543]

11 minutes ago, ckhorn said:

I'm not saying you're wrong, but it didn't hurt Bryce Young who missed a lot of his sr season and he is wittle.

1) Young played a full season and won the Heisman in the year prior. 

2) Teams absolutely had concerns a lot Young’s ability to handle the physicality of the NFL. Carolina didn’t, so he went high, and they were of course wrong. 

3) What I posted is what a direct family member told people around the program. It’s not a debate. He needs to play a full season to assuage concerns with various teams that might draft him. 

1 minute ago, MotownHorn said:

Let's see Arch against a halfway decent opponent before we start assuming there's no drop off between him and Quinn

You quoted a post in which I explicitly referenced a gap between the players. The attempt to frame my post as the opposite of that is pure poster ineptitude. 

[Doc Daneeka 6797]

34 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

The myth of what happened to Wally Pipp has become reality. It’s a pretty clear reference now. Or Drew Bledsoe’ed if you like. 

Were there a lot of Pipp references when Murphy took over for an injured Ewers last season? I must’ve missed them. 

[MrBig 5655]

15 minutes ago, ckhorn said:

I'm not saying you're wrong, but it didn't hurt Bryce Young who missed a lot of his sr season and he is wittle.

Are you talking about Bryce Young missing games as a senior in high school? I only remember him missing one game ever at Alabama and starting all 15 games in one season. This is very different than Quinn missing 2 games per year. 

[Jimmy Two Times 926]

Hard to feel very concerned about this. Still Quinn’s job and he’s fucking awesome, but if Arch takes over the starting job that means he’s even more fucking awesome, which is great. I’m not sure I’d trade either of them for any other quarterback in college football.

[Codaxx 6290]

39 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

Arch could go 100 for 100 with 25 touchdowns in the next three games and he's still not starting against OU if Quinn is healthy. 

If he goes 100-100 with 25 tds the next 3 games (that includes OU), not only will I say he should be the starting QB, I will write him in on my Presidential ballot 

Edited September 15 by Codaxx

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 3661]

3 hours ago, Tylerocks said:

 

What the fuck is this garbage?

 

You two are morons.

I didn’t say shit about off the field stuff, was more alluding to a practice injury or lingering ailment that Ewers has been dealing with quietly. Sark runs a tight ship program unlike our last idiot coaches so we won’t ever know.

Edited September 15 by Wilcox Cummingtonite

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 3661]

6 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

If he goes 100-100 with 25 tds the next 3 games (that includes OU), not only will I say he should be the starting QB, I will write him in on my Presidential ballot 

[Dahobbs 18431]

27 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

1) Young played a full season and won the Heisman in the year prior. 

2) Teams absolutely had concerns a lot Young’s ability to handle the physicality of the NFL. Carolina didn’t, so he went high, and they were of course wrong. 

3) What I posted is what a direct family member told people around the program. It’s not a debate. He needs to play a full season to assuage concerns with various teams that might draft him. 

You quoted a post in which I explicitly referenced a gap between the players. The attempt to frame my post as the opposite of that is pure poster ineptitude. 

You're all over the place, which is why people don't know what you're actually saying. Hell, I'm not convinced that you do. Take a breather. 

[bangkok 89]

2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

If he goes 100-100 with 25 tds the next 3 games (that includes OU), not only will I say he should be the starting QB, I will write him in on my Presidential ballot 

this is exactly right.

ewers has earned every benefit of any doubt and is fully capable of leading us to a championship. he may well be a heisman contender, high first rounder.

but in a situation where there’s a doubt, and arch does indeed fire off record breaking stats while looking like vince himself, then let the young man work his magic. it’s an unlikely scenario, but not outside the realm of plausibility.

you start manning if, and only if, you believe he’s the difference between a national championship or falling just short.

[Dahobbs 18431]

13 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

If he goes 100-100 with 25 tds the next 3 games (that includes OU), not only will I say he should be the starting QB, I will write him in on my Presidential ballot 

You're assuming some of those 100 actually come in the OU game. That's how those wish granting genies get you. It would be all fumbles and no passes. 

[Newy25 7954]

29 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

Were there a lot of Pipp references when Murphy took over for an injured Ewers last season? I must’ve missed them. 

After he nearly lost us the Kansas State game single handily, bizarrely the references never appeared. 

[Mr. Drummond 2244]

17 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

If he goes 100-100 with 25 tds the next 3 games (that includes OU), not only will I say he should be the starting QB, I will write him in on my Presidential ballot 

I might write him in for prez no matter how he plays.  

[Hermanator 7715]

Damn, Saints are real on offense. 

Maybe we should tell Jerry to go fuck himself and start watching their games every week

[Brothahorn 10100]

4 hours ago, utexas8 said:

Yeah. Arch looked good but you could tell the difference between the 2. Quinn throws such a pretty ball. Arch will be fine. But let’s stop and smell the roses. Quinn is damn good and if he keeps playing like this he will win the heisman. #AllIn4Quinn

Milroe is winning the Heisman. ESPN is all in.

[mwaadeeb 1372]

18 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

If he goes 100-100 with 25 tds the next 3 games (that includes OU), not only will I say he should be the starting QB, I will write him in on my Presidential ballot 

Whoops, I should have said 100-100 with 25 five tds in the next two games (including DK Moore's flipping but only if Arch starts), Ewers will start against OU. And he absolutely should. Anyone who argues otherwise is on the sauce. 

[chainsaw 10313]

3 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Damn, Saints are real on offense. 

Maybe we should tell Jerry to go fuck himself and start watching their games every week

Sir, this is a Wendy's

[Armybrat 41459]

2 hours ago, Tex Long said:

 "No, sweetie, the pants don't make your butt look big. No, ma'am. It's not the pants."

 

When is the nurse scheduled to remove your IV and feeding tube?

[Doc Daneeka 6797]

23 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

After he nearly lost us the Kansas State game single handily, bizarrely the references never appeared. 

So people really do think Manning can keep a healthy Ewers on the bench? Good times. 

[Hermanator 7715]

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Edited September 15 by Hermanator

[DixonHur 11971]

13 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

So people really do think Manning can keep a healthy Ewers on the bench? Good times. 

No shit.

Quinn is the starter if he's healthy.  End of story.

[Laxtonto 13328]

 

[Bill Lumbergh 7351]

Just now, Laxtonto said:

 

If accurate, I'd assume this is good news?  Plenty of serious things would have a known extended timeline, vs week to week?

[Doc Daneeka 6797]

At least he’s not month to month.