QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

3 minutes ago, D3zii said:

I was just watching the Michigan game again, and man I honestly believe that injury did something to Quinns Psyche.

The Quinn against Michigan was not the same Quinn as Oklahoma and UGA. we started to see glimpses of it against Vandy but not like earlier in the season. My hope is Quinn is getting healthier and out of his head. If that Quinn returns can't no team in CFB can fuck with us.  Yea the O-Line needs to be better but they're a Veteran, smart and gifted group. They know how to play at a high level because they've done it before. They were in the running for the best O-Line group last year and early this season. Hopefully this bye week is what we need for Quinn to settle in the O-Line to work on itself. ''

Texas biggest opponent is Texas, Im not really worried about anyone else. if we play like we're capable of we break UGA off and anybody else that wants some.  I can see if we never seen the team play up to par but we have and I know they can get back to it. 

Derek Carr just returned to practice this week from his injury. 
 

I know all oblique injuries aren’t the same but his was oct 9 if I’m not mistaken 

[D3zii 3675]

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Derek Carr just returned to practice this week from his injury. 
 

I know all oblique injuries aren’t the same but his was oct 9 if I’m not mistaken 

Yea If I remember correctly, I think both teams training staffs communicated to see how they delt with their injuries. 

Right now, I'm just under the assumption Quinn rushed back due to feeling Arch creeping in. Which I get but looking at these game films before and after no way Quinn was 100% or even 90%. I do think he's getting better though, and I think his play against Vandy showed that specially in the 1st half. I hope this bye week gets him back to where he can move around like he did before the injury.

[TotallyLegit 3052]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Putting people on ignore is a bigger pussy move than being scared of pressure.

Each time I post, I feel the pressure of all those incoming ignores bearing down on me. But I feel the fear and do it anyway.

[jimmyjazz 45880]

Sark says Quinn has no oblique issues as of the Vandy game.  Is he telling the truth?  No idea.

[D3zii 3675]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Sark says Quinn has no oblique issues as of the Vandy game.  Is he telling the truth?  No idea.

Coach Speak, Not sure if you played ball or not, but coaches always do that. Dnt want to let the other team know you have a chink in your amour. 

All you have to do is watch film, what we've seen since Quinn came back is not the same Quinn. That Vandy game was the best he's look since Before the injury

Edited October 30 by D3zii

[Dahobbs 17522]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Sark says Quinn has no oblique issues as of the Vandy game.  Is he telling the truth?  No idea.

It didn't appear to be an issue in that game. His throws were much better and looked more normal than OU or Georgia. 

[jimmyjazz 45880]

LOL so the early vote is 1-1

[ChickenSandwich 9824]

1 hour ago, D3zii said:

I was just watching the Michigan game again, and man I honestly believe that injury did something to Quinns Psyche.

The Quinn against Michigan was not the same Quinn as Oklahoma and UGA. we started to see glimpses of it against Vandy but not like earlier in the season. My hope is Quinn is getting healthier and out of his head. If that Quinn returns can't no team in CFB can fuck with us.  Yea the O-Line needs to be better but they're a Veteran, smart and gifted group. They know how to play at a high level because they've done it before. They were in the running for the best O-Line group last year and early this season. Hopefully this bye week is what we need for Quinn to settle in the O-Line to work on itself. ''

Texas biggest opponent is Texas, Im not really worried about anyone else. if we play like we're capable of we break UGA off and anybody else that wants some.  I can see if we never seen the team play up to par but we have and I know they can get back to it. 

I think it is simple at this point for Sark. Quinn is the starter until he loses his next game. 
 

*an awful first half and trailing by 3 scores could do it as well. 

[Hank_Hill 18789]

52 minutes ago, D3zii said:

Coach Speak, Not sure if you played ball or not, but coaches always do that. Dnt want to let the other team know you have a chink in your amour. 

All you have to do is watch film, what we've seen since Quinn came back is not the same Quinn. That Vandy game was the best he's look since Before the injury

So it looks like it’s resolved as of the Vandy game. Like he said.

[Funk Doctor Spock 12176]

4 hours ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

What is David Ash up to these days?

He's doing mattress commercials. I wish I were kidding. 

[Hank_Hill 18789]

He got a degree from Mccombs. I’m sure he’s doing other things.

[Jkwellborn 6686]

Derek Carr just returned to practice this week from his injury. 
 
I know all oblique injuries aren’t the same but his was oct 9 if I’m not mistaken 

Derek Carr was hurt a couple of weeks after Quinn. They reached out to see what treatments Texas was using, because supposedly Quinn was getting better faster. That was probably a lie.

[Hamttx 419]

18 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

He got a degree from Mccombs. I’m sure he’s doing other things.

His LinkedIn profile shows he works for B2B sales since May of this year. Kind of an interesting company, but not what I expected he would be doing. 

[MrBig 5370]

If Quinn could run and be accurate like Shane Buechele in 2016, we would be unstoppable. Shane’s accuracy was incredible despite getting sacked 31 times that year. Quinn has the talent but it’s up to Sark to teach him the skills to develop further.

 

 

[Surly Bevo 24908]

3 minutes ago, MrBig said:

If Quinn could run and be accurate like Shane Buechele in 2016, we would be unstoppable. Shane’s accuracy was incredible despite getting sacked 31 times that year. Quinn has the talent but it’s up to Sark to teach him the skills to develop further.

 

 

All those scorebugs in that video triggered my PTSD.  Thanks a lot asshole.

[Thatguy 8671]

 

3 hours ago, D3zii said:

I was just watching the Michigan game again, and man I honestly believe that injury did something to Quinns Psyche.

The Quinn against Michigan was not the same Quinn as Oklahoma and UGA. we started to see glimpses of it against Vandy but not like earlier in the season. My hope is Quinn is getting healthier and out of his head. If that Quinn returns can't no team in CFB can fuck with us.  Yea the O-Line needs to be better but they're a Veteran, smart and gifted group. They know how to play at a high level because they've done it before. They were in the running for the best O-Line group last year and early this season. Hopefully this bye week is what we need for Quinn to settle in the O-Line to work on itself. ''

Texas biggest opponent is Texas, Im not really worried about anyone else. if we play like we're capable of we break UGA off and anybody else that wants some.  I can see if we never seen the team play up to par but we have and I know they can get back to it. 

Two things different about that Michigan game. We ran the ball downhill and had very few negative plays in the run game. Quinn got pressured but there really weren't quick protection busts. Georgia found something on film and exploited it and then Vandy did their best to replicate it. Hopefully we do some self scouting during the bye and get it sorted. Also we need to get 9 some minutes. He is the more physical runner we need to get those tough inside yards. Blue needs more touches too.

Edited October 31 by Thatguy

[Thatguy 8671]

4 hours ago, Codaxx said:

I am asking on the coverage. I dont see the connection to cover 3. 

We ran a lot of 12 personnel and they were in cover 3. At that point you only have two deep threats on the field and corners are bailing to their deep 3rd. That means unless the corner isn't doing what they are supposed to deep should be protected and intermediate throws should be avail.

[Vic Mackey 47006]

 
Two things different about that Michigan game. We ran the ball downhill and had very few negative plays in the run game. Quinn got pressured but there really weren't quick protection busts. Georgia found something on film and exploited it and then Vandy did their best to replicate it. Hopefully we do some self scouting during the bye and get it sorted. Also we need to get 9 some minutes. He is the more physical runner we need to get those tough inside yards. Blue needs more touches too.

Also, Michigan isn't even close to what they were the last 3 years. All their top players went to the NFL it seems. Georgia is much better than Michigan this year. I don't buy the injury changed him. He's been inconsistent his entire career. His weaknesses in year 1 are still there today. He still has very little pocket presence and his footwork isn't great.

We are so limited on offense with Quinn. WRs are being under utilized because he can't get them the ball on intermediate and deep routes. He's a dink and dunker. Brady was great at this but when he got Randy Moss, they had one of the most prolific pass offenses ever. Defenses don't respect anything past 10 yards and can just load up and clog the field. Running game struggles too because the defense doesn't really have to respect the pass.

[Hank_Hill 18789]

Running game struggles because the OL and RBs are pussy ass pussies. Hey, being a simplistic retard is kinda fun. 

[LTtxfan 49142]

[HtownHorn 14663]

On 10/29/2024 at 7:12 PM, Sawbonz said:

Fuck the bye week

We need it to reset, refocus, and get healthy.

[Fondren & Main 6700]

I can feel the FOCUSNESS increasing.

[Sawbonz 27533]

41 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

We need it to reset, refocus, and get healthy.

Well sure, the team does

 

 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12176]

We will be unstoppable once Quinn uolpgrades to Colt Mccoy 

[WinningIsHard 4025]

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

Also, Michigan isn't even close to what they were the last 3 years. All their top players went to the NFL it seems. Georgia is much better than Michigan this year. I don't buy the injury changed him. He's been inconsistent his entire career. His weaknesses in year 1 are still there today. He still has very little pocket presence and his footwork isn't great.

We are so limited on offense with Quinn. WRs are being under utilized because he can't get them the ball on intermediate and deep routes. He's a dink and dunker. Brady was great at this but when he got Randy Moss, they had one of the most prolific pass offenses ever. Defenses don't respect anything past 10 yards and can just load up and clog the field. Running game struggles too because the defense doesn't really have to respect the pass.
 

Quinn is still the same guy he was year 1 then you bring Tom Brady in as an example. A do fuckin what???? Who the fuck have we had that is half as good as Randy moss? Oh you bastard, am I feeding the troll here? 

[TreatyOak 16311]

1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

We ran a lot of 12 personnel and they were in cover 3. At that point you only have two deep threats on the field and corners are bailing to their deep 3rd. That means unless the corner isn't doing what they are supposed to deep should be protected and intermediate throws should be avail.

Hey, guys, please take this conversation to an encrypted platform. You are sharing PROPRIETARY LONGHORN COACHING STRATEGY on an OPEN FORUM and several of our posters, like @6th Street, cannot be trusted. 

[MrBig 5370]

24 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

We will be unstoppable once Quinn uolpgrades to Colt Mccoy 

Quinn just has to play he’s Colt McCoy in Sam’s body with a sprinkle of Vince’s running ability and we’ll stop complaining about shit like his footwork. 

[CastHorn 811]

5 hours ago, D3zii said:

I was just watching the Michigan game again, and man I honestly believe that injury did something to Quinns Psyche.

The Quinn against Michigan was not the same Quinn as Oklahoma and UGA. we started to see glimpses of it against Vandy but not like earlier in the season. My hope is Quinn is getting healthier and out of his head. If that Quinn returns can't no team in CFB can fuck with us.  Yea the O-Line needs to be better but they're a Veteran, smart and gifted group. They know how to play at a high level because they've done it before. They were in the running for the best O-Line group last year and early this season. Hopefully this bye week is what we need for Quinn to settle in the O-Line to work on itself. ''

Texas biggest opponent is Texas, Im not really worried about anyone else. if we play like we're capable of we break UGA off and anybody else that wants some.  I can see if we never seen the team play up to par but we have and I know they can get back to it. 

Michigan played pretty vanilla on defense, there was very little disguising coverage or blitzes. Maybe that afforded Quinn the confidence to play in the manner he did. He rarely stacks those types of performances upon each other. 

[Cairn Horn88 8259]

5 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

It didn't appear to be an issue in that game. His throws were much better and looked more normal than OU or Georgia. 

Maybe…..but he needs to work on that footwork to be able to move side-to-side….up and back and around…etc….I know he’s not Tyler Murray, but he seems so fragile back in the pocket, whereas he was better before that injury.

[Horn of Gabriel 1614]

7 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Sark says Quinn has no oblique issues as of the Vandy game.  Is he telling the truth?  No idea.

Friendly reminder to all that Sark said Xavier Worthy was fine all year and then we find out later he played the year with a broken hand.  Coaches lie.

[Hook1997 5351]

31 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

Friendly reminder to all that Sark said Xavier Worthy was fine all year and then we find out later he played the year with a broken hand.  Coaches lie.

Didn’t we play this is Quinn still hurt game the last two years though and both coach and player said no?   I’m just saying this isn’t new where fans try to blame it on injury still and that be proven false.  It’s kinda obvious it’s mental at this point.  

Edited October 31 by Hook1997

[52-80 19143]

13 hours ago, D3zii said:

I was just watching the Michigan game again, and man I honestly believe that injury did something to Quinns Psyche.

Coach should ask the team to randomly blindside-tackle quinn throughout the week to beat the fear out of him.

[Not a cat 5652]

8 hours ago, CastHorn said:

Michigan played pretty vanilla on defense, there was very little disguising coverage or blitzes. Maybe that afforded Quinn the confidence to play in the manner he did. He rarely stacks those types of performances upon each other. 

This.   Michigan didn't vary their coverages much at all.  This allowed quinn and sark to tee off on them.  I doubt we see any of our remaining opponents do the same after reviewing the last few games on film.  

[Codaxx 5716]

11 hours ago, Thatguy said:

 

Two things different about that Michigan game. We ran the ball downhill and had very few negative plays in the run game. Quinn got pressured but there really weren't quick protection busts. Georgia found something on film and exploited it and then Vandy did their best to replicate it. Hopefully we do some self scouting during the bye and get it sorted. Also we need to get 9 some minutes. He is the more physical runner we need to get those tough inside yards. Blue needs more touches too.

Here is Texas RBs vs Michigan and Georgia

Michigan: 27 attempts for 88 yards, 3.3 per

Georgia: 15 for 52, 3.47 per

Really not much of a difference, that Wingo run made it look much better (1 for 55 vs Michigan and 1 for 7 vs Georgia). Texas has not been particularly efficient running the ball under Sark. Brooks was able to create explosive runs. That is the difference in the run game. This year Texas is inefficient and not very explosive. This year Texas is 82nd in runs of 10+ yards in the nation. 28th last year.

[lilMAC25 3788]

1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

Here is Texas RBs vs Michigan and Georgia

Michigan: 27 attempts for 88 yards, 3.3 per

Georgia: 15 for 52, 3.47 per

Really not much of a difference, that Wingo run made it look much better (1 for 55 vs Michigan and 1 for 7 vs Georgia). Texas has not been particularly efficient running the ball under Sark. Brooks was able to create explosive runs. That is the difference in the run game. This year Texas is inefficient and not very explosive. This year Texas is 82nd in runs of 10+ yards in the nation. 28th last year.

I mean, we lost a 5* RB (RB1) who ran for 659 yds as a true fr backup last year. He was supposed to be THE guy this year.. 

[Dark Horse 2279]

Yeah but our veteran OL is still pretty shitty at run blocking. 

[someguy 1508]

16 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Sark says Quinn has no oblique issues as of the Vandy game.  Is he telling the truth?  No idea.

Sark is telling the truth.  

8 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

Friendly reminder to all that Sark said Xavier Worthy was fine all year and then we find out later he played the year with a broken hand.  Coaches lie.

Worthy was fine most of the year.  He sustained a hamate fracture in late October.  I do not recall if he was asked directly about a Worthy injury after it happened.

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

4 minutes ago, Dark Horse said:

Yeah but our veteran OL is still pretty shitty at run blocking. 

Just thinking out loud but aside from Michigan when is a time our OL dominated a defense in the past few years?

 

 

[jimmyjazz 45880]

6 minutes ago, someguy said:

Worthy was fine most of the year.  He sustained a hamate fracture in late October.  I do not recall if he was asked directly about a Worthy injury after it happened.

I recall being completely surprised by the eventual reveal of X's hand injury, way after the fact.

[lilMAC25 3788]

10 minutes ago, Dark Horse said:

Yeah but our veteran OL is still pretty shitty at run blocking. 

[immamac 42835]

I cannot find the actual source for this and HornSports is not to be trusted at all. They said on some radio show that Quinn gave this quote. If anyone can help me track down the audio that would be great, because I don't believe this without citing which radio show and the timing is stupid on it. 

Quote

I don’t have to worry about it on hits, which is a good feeling because you can play more freely and don’t have to think about taking or not taking certain hits.”

 

[Hermanator 7032]

The tape showed he was still physically laboring a ton against OU and Georgia, but didn't show to be in any perceivable way against Vanderbilt. You could easily see it. 

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

1 minute ago, Hermanator said:

The tape showed he was still physically laboring a ton against OU and Georgia, but didn't show to be in any perceivable way against Vanderbilt. You could easily see it. 

I agree with this.

[Crapinon 2252]

Maybe we should get him a gift certificate? 

https://arthurmurray.com 

[Had Enough 2076]

3 hours ago, Not a cat said:

This.   Michigan didn't vary their coverages much at all.  This allowed quinn and sark to tee off on them.  I doubt we see any of our remaining opponents do the same after reviewing the last few games on film.  

Michigan blitzed 45% of pass plays, Georgia 33%.  Vandy was above 50%.  OU 31%.
 

For Vandy, Rinaldi and Fontenelle both rush the passer quite a bit but numbers look as though that was in overdrive versus us.  I suspect they felt as they had to be the aggressor because we had the talent advantage.

The success in the UM game versus the others is Ewers broke the pocket several times and made them pay.  Unfortunately, two were called back.  It was not us necessarily executing as the play was intended.  We did have the big pass on the opening drive.  But that should have never worked against cover 3.  That was poor defensive execution rather than a poor call.

[Codaxx 5716]

3 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Michigan blitzed 45% of pass plays, Georgia 33%.  Vandy was above 50%.  OU 31%.
 

For Vandy, Rinaldi and Fontenelle both rush the passer quite a bit but numbers look as though that was in overdrive versus us.  I suspect they felt as they had to be the aggressor because we had the talent advantage.

The success in the UM game versus the others is Ewers broke the pocket several times and made them pay.  Unfortunately, two were called back.  It was not us necessarily executing as the play was intended.  We did have the big pass on the opening drive.  But that should have never worked against cover 3.  That was poor defensive execution rather than a poor call.

i think Vandy was auto-blitzing the backside NB on OZ away from him. That crushed the little roll out pass that Sark likes to run off OZ. 

[gurt 748]

9 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Michigan blitzed 45% of pass plays, Georgia 33%.  Vandy was above 50%.  OU 31%.
 

For Vandy, Rinaldi and Fontenelle both rush the passer quite a bit but numbers look as though that was in overdrive versus us.  I suspect they felt as they had to be the aggressor because we had the talent advantage.

The success in the UM game versus the others is Ewers broke the pocket several times and made them pay.  Unfortunately, two were called back.  It was not us necessarily executing as the play was intended.  We did have the big pass on the opening drive.  But that should have never worked against cover 3.  That was poor defensive execution rather than a poor call.

they blitzed a lot, but crucially they didn't vary the back end.  It was a standard cover 3 shell like 90% of the time

[Thatguy 8671]

7 minutes ago, gurt said:

they blitzed a lot, but crucially they didn't vary the back end.  It was a standard cover 3 shell like 90% of the time

Agreed. While Vandy was in our playbook big time. They refused to fall prey to most of our usual patterns and were determined to keep us in front of them.  Sark didn't really try to punish them for it either. 

[Thatguy 8671]

3 hours ago, Codaxx said:

Here is Texas RBs vs Michigan and Georgia

Michigan: 27 attempts for 88 yards, 3.3 per

Georgia: 15 for 52, 3.47 per

Really not much of a difference, that Wingo run made it look much better (1 for 55 vs Michigan and 1 for 7 vs Georgia). Texas has not been particularly efficient running the ball under Sark. Brooks was able to create explosive runs. That is the difference in the run game. This year Texas is inefficient and not very explosive. This year Texas is 82nd in runs of 10+ yards in the nation. 28th last year.

Check 1st and second down runs. 

[Had Enough 2076]

11 minutes ago, gurt said:

they blitzed a lot, but crucially they didn't vary the back end.  It was a standard cover 3 shell like 90% of the time

That may be, but their issue was not cover 3.  It was losing contain several times.  Yes, I saw the Brooks grind the tape.

Our first drive - 3rd and long.  Cover 3.  CB attacks upfield and allows Bond behind.  Not a play call issue. The TD called back.  Coverage broke down because of failing on pass rush integrity.  Was this also the drive that Ewers converted a 3rd down with his legs and a pump fake?  Yes, it was.  Not a coverage issue.

The Helm TD.  Pass rush integrity.

Seems like Goldens big play had a little QB movement and was a really nice throw.  Not really a play call failure.

Our 2nd TD drive we had 40 yards rushing and a 20 yard pass to Wisner.  That’s a cover 3 issue?

We made plays and they didn’t.  They elected to keep things in front of them.  If they execute better, they have better outcomes.  We scored 10 points off short fields.

There is critical information that we don’t have great information on.  First is what do these defenses typically do?  Then what is the actual breakdown of coverages.  We have no idea whether any of these teams broke tendencies.

At the same time, I never thought they blitzed that much.  I am confident in saying it wasn’t the same blitz so whether you have that shell there is variation in the coverage.

22% of our passes were 10+ air yards. Half of those were referenced in this post.  That’s a low number.