QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[MirrOlure 14755]

 
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Yep. What should we call the next level below Blue Blood…Name/Uniform Team?

And yeah, the micro analysis and criticism of each throw, including ones caught for big gains and touchdowns is just…..well…..so Surly

[Had Enough 2076]

18 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Not to mention the 12 previous years of dogshit QB play. Screw those idiots. 

Seriously?

Do you remember this stat line?  20-34 for 388 yards, 5 TDs and no picks.  And that was against a team that won 10 games. A game in which people bitched about the Oline (it was solid except for 1, maybe 2 drives).  That was from one of those shitty QBs.  It’s highlighted to show you how conducive this offense can be to compiling QB stats.

QB is the most difficult position in sports.  It’s also the one most highly dependent on your teammates.

When Sark is good, he makes it very easy.  He was good yesterday.  
 

Far too little credit has been given to the non-QB guys the past two years.  That’s not necessarily uncommon, but it sure as hell is understated as to how capable his offensive teammates were and are.  And when on, Sark has more, QB friendly play calls than any Texas play caller I’ve seen.  These guys don’t simply get drafted because their QB makes them look good.  The offensive skill talent that we’ve had the  past 3 years is off the charts relative to the entire history of Texas football.

The defense that people liked to bitch about is now top 10 for 3 years running.  In each of those years from an OFEI/DFEI perspective, the defense is higher rated than the offense.  We’re  what 4-0 the past two years without Ewers starting with three of those being 30 plus point victories.

I’m still on the side of we will win it all this year.  He will do his part.  Just remember when you lift him up and kick others aside that the situations were in no way equivalent.

[Codaxx 5716]

10 hours ago, dieucla98 said:

Are we claiming that a ball a WR has to make adjustments on is a bad throw? 

QBs can't drop dimes every damn pass. None of them can. And a WR making adjustments in order to catch a ball... That's their damn job.

It’s a bit more complex than that. If a WR is 8-10 yards behind a DB and he has to slow down and turn around to make the catch, it’s not a good throw. It’s good enough. Effective throw and good throw are not always the same. Good throw requires minimal adjustment from a WR. A great throw requires no adjustment. 

[immamac 42833]

Rewatched the game. Quinn seems like he has some internal clock that's applying unneeded pressure on him constantly. 

There was a few times where he threw the ball with good protection way too early with receivers open. It seems like whatever this internal clock he's got is a lot of the reason his off schedule stuff look like he's panicked. 

I think the obvious is his off schedule game is just not where it needs to be from a confidence perspective,  it he's back completely healthy and didn't do weird stuff to avoid contact this game. 

[Dbeasy 15040]

9 minutes ago, immamac said:

Rewatched the game. Quinn seems like he has some internal clock that's applying unneeded pressure on him constantly. 

There was a few times where he threw the ball with good protection way too early with receivers open. It seems like whatever this internal clock he's got is a lot of the reason his off schedule stuff look like he's panicked. 

I think the obvious is his off schedule game is just not where it needs to be from a confidence perspective,  it he's back completely healthy and didn't do weird stuff to avoid contact this game. 

Yes. He continues to struggle with pocket poise a bit. Sometimes he gets rid of it too early. Sometimes it seems like he passes up an open receiver and then throws it too late after the internal clock should have gone off. Just a bit weird timing. When he’s not pressured, he’s pretty good at finding the open receiver, obviously. 

[Gandalfish 346]

On 11/4/2024 at 2:02 PM, Gandalfish said:

I suggest a Five Point Plan to settle this disagreement once and for all.

1. We watch the Texas vs. Florida game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

2. We watch the Texas vs. Arkansas game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

3. We watch the Texas vs. Kentucky game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

4. We watch the Texas vs. Aggy game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

5. We watch the next Texas game of the season (Bowl game, SEC Championship, or First round playoff). Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss -30 if this is a bowl game +10 if it's the SEC championship.

 

Then we find the average of these five sums. This gives us his measure on the ULTIMATE SCALE OF PUSSYTUDE/BOSSNESS (working title...in process)

 

0-65.0 : THE ULTIMATE PUSSY : Sorry Quinn, you are officially and forever a Huge Pussy

65-75 : PRETTY MUCH A PUSSY : Quinn, you had so much potential but you ended up playing like a Pussy for us. There might be hope for you in the future though.

75-85 : KIND OF A PUSSY : Quinn, we would have had a real shot this season if you didn't play like a pussy one too many times. Good luck in the NFL though bro.

85-95 : MOST LIKELY NOT A PUSSY : Quinn did enough to win, but could he have done more? (I admit if we end up here the argument will go on. I'll take my chances)

95-100 : DEFINITELY NOT A PUSSY : You can say what you want about Quinn Ewers, but he ain't no pussy.

100+ : DUDE IS A BOSS : It turns out you guys have just been haters the whole time. Potential Longhorn Legend.

 

(This is all completely arbitrary and not based on any kind of science or intelligence)

May the testes be with you, Quinn.

 

1. Texas 49-17 vs. Florida. Score = 100.0 (QBR 90.0 +10 for win)

2. We watch the Texas vs. Arkansas game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

3. We watch the Texas vs. Kentucky game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

4. We watch the Texas vs. Aggy game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

5. We watch the next Texas game of the season (Bowl game, SEC Championship, or First round playoff). Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss -30 if this is a bowl game +10 if it's the SEC championship.

 

There is still a lot of football to be played, but on pace to be a BOSS 🤘

[Hookem10 731]

10 minutes ago, immamac said:

Rewatched the game. Quinn seems like he has some internal clock that's applying unneeded pressure on him constantly. 

There was a few times where he threw the ball with good protection way too early with receivers open. It seems like whatever this internal clock he's got is a lot of the reason his off schedule stuff look like he's panicked. 

I think the obvious is his off schedule game is just not where it needs to be from a confidence perspective,  it he's back completely healthy and didn't do weird stuff to avoid contact this game. 

Totally agree. It’s night and day when you see arch in the pocket. Arch is to comfortable in the pocket holding the ball to long while ewers is freaking out after 2 seconds. I think both QBs need to work on that and find a median. And I’m not saying there is a controversy, just very noticeable when you get to see both of them play. 

[Irish Wrist Watch 1359]

When I criticize Ewers, part of it comes from comparing how he played a year ago. For the most part, he didn't have these problems. (I didn't like the way the season ended on the Wash 10 yard line, but that was partially Sark.) His stats yesterday were helped by a Florida offense with a backup QB that struggled to get first downs in the first half and beyond. It was all Texas. Arkansas in Fayetville will be a good test.

One thing you see when you watch Arch is his fluidity. He's quicker, and he can get outside and continue to look downfield. Ewers had that last year. 

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

Quinn had a very good day passing and I’d rate him as quarter of a pussy on the is he a pussy scale. As Imma pointed out his internal clock will never allow him to shake being a pussy. 

[Had Enough 2076]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

Rewatched the game. Quinn seems like he has some internal clock that's applying unneeded pressure on him constantly. 

There was a few times where he threw the ball with good protection way too early with receivers open. It seems like whatever this internal clock he's got is a lot of the reason his off schedule stuff look like he's panicked. 

I think the obvious is his off schedule game is just not where it needs to be from a confidence perspective,  it he's back completely healthy and didn't do weird stuff to avoid contact this game. 

This is the same trait that causes many to people to soil themselves in excitement.

When it woks, it’s awesome.  When it doesn’t, it’s a bit wtf.  His game is to get the ball out of his hand and into the receivers.  There’s a bit of a tie in to the back foot and off platform stuff.

Back to the Michigan game in drive 1, he had two plays that were like this.  Same shit two years ago but more often than now.  I’m not sure you can get him out of it, and there are benefits at times.

[Hook1997 5351]

He had a good week for sure. Definitely has to keep hitting some downfield shots like he did this week to go anywhere in the playoffs. He came it to this weeks games second to last in the country in air yards per attempt.  Against A&M has to not hesitate, he did a couple times this week but got away with it.  

Edited November 10 by Hook1997

[TreatyOak 16311]

2 hours ago, Had Enough said:

Seriously?

Do you remember this stat line?  20-34 for 388 yards, 5 TDs and no picks.  And that was against a team that won 10 games. A game in which people bitched about the Oline (it was solid except for 1, maybe 2 drives).  That was from one of those shitty QBs.  It’s highlighted to show you how conducive this offense can be to compiling QB stats.

QB is the most difficult position in sports.  It’s also the one most highly dependent on your teammates.

When Sark is good, he makes it very easy.  He was good yesterday.  
 

Far too little credit has been given to the non-QB guys the past two years.  That’s not necessarily uncommon, but it sure as hell is understated as to how capable his offensive teammates were and are.  And when on, Sark has more, QB friendly play calls than any Texas play caller I’ve seen.  These guys don’t simply get drafted because their QB makes them look good.  The offensive skill talent that we’ve had the  past 3 years is off the charts relative to the entire history of Texas football.

The defense that people liked to bitch about is now top 10 for 3 years running.  In each of those years from an OFEI/DFEI perspective, the defense is higher rated than the offense.  We’re  what 4-0 the past two years without Ewers starting with three of those being 30 plus point victories.

I’m still on the side of we will win it all this year.  He will do his part.  Just remember when you lift him up and kick others aside that the situations were in no way equivalent.

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[hook me 2092]

15 hours ago, Ghost of Shag said:

I guess we each see what we want with Quinn.

I saw the same slow start, missed deep balls, should have been a stupid pick to the LB on the second drive, checking down a lot Quinn that In used to seeing.

Were his stats better? Yeah. Did he make some good throws? He did. But his inconsistencies and the ridiculousness of still not being able to throw a deep ball are not getting cured this year, if ever.

Our ceiling should be national championship this year. I truly believe we have the best team in the nation. 

But I don’t think our QB can get it done.

What the fuck are y’all talking about “slow start”.

7/9 104 2TD in the first quarter. Slow start my ass, if that’s slow I’d love to see him come out slinging it. YOU see what YOU want to see facts and stats be damned.

“but but but he can’t throw the deep ball” he had 2 30 yard TDs to Golden - one was wide open, the other was a good throw to the open space regardless of what BOW would argue - and not 1 but 2 dropped by Moore. 1 was under thrown but it still should have been caught and a big play, the other was just plain dropped and was a TD.

“but he checked down a bunch” yeah and didn’t take sacks and made positive plays. sometimes WRs don’t get open and/or the OL doesn’t block well, so get the ball out and let Blue and Wisner get some yards and oh my word if blue makes his guy miss (like he’s really good at doing) it goes for a big play. Wait too long on those and the guy gets tackled or it gets picked, checking down quick isn’t a bad decision when the guy has 7 open yards in front of him.

This post sounds like the same people who clamor that the coaches don’t call the TD play enough or the defensive coaches need to call the sack or int play.

[mwaadeeb 1207]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Quinn had a very good day passing and I’d rate him as quarter of a pussy on the is he a pussy scale. As Imma pointed out his internal clock will never allow him to shake being a pussy. 

A quarterback who lacks confidence in part of his game isn't always a pussy because of it, you dolt. For the love of God get that through your thick head.

My guess is he's too in his own head about pocket presence and running, which makes him hesitate.

[Ghost of Shag 2608]

11 minutes ago, hook me said:

What the fuck are y’all talking about “slow start”.

7/9 104 2TD in the first quarter. Slow start my ass, if that’s slow I’d love to see him come out slinging it. YOU see what YOU want to see facts and stats be damned.

“but but but he can’t throw the deep ball” he had 2 30 yard TDs to Golden - one was wide open, the other was a good throw to the open space regardless of what BOW would argue - and not 1 but 2 dropped by Moore. 1 was under thrown but it still should have been caught and a big play, the other was just plain dropped and was a TD.

“but he checked down a bunch” yeah and didn’t take sacks and made positive plays. sometimes WRs don’t get open and/or the OL doesn’t block well, so get the ball out and let Blue and Wisner get some yards and oh my word if blue makes his guy miss (like he’s really good at doing) it goes for a big play. Wait too long on those and the guy gets tackled or it gets picked, checking down quick isn’t a bad decision when the guy has 7 open yards in front of him.

This post sounds like the same people who clamor that the coaches don’t call the TD play enough or the defensive coaches need to call the sack or int play.

Sorry, Mrs. Ewers.

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

3 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

My guess is he's too in his own head about pocket presence and running, which makes him hesitate.

Aka a pussy 

[Had Enough 2076]

8 minutes ago, hook me said:

What the fuck are y’all talking about “slow start”.

7/9 104 2TD in the first quarter. Slow start my ass, if that’s slow I’d love to see him come out slinging it. YOU see what YOU want to see facts and stats be damned.

 

Screw the stats dude.  We got the most important one.  That is what matters.  Everyone did their part.

But if Sark does not go for it on 4th inside his own 30, it’s possible we go scoreless in the 1st quarter.  Nevermind one of throws could have been picked.  Then the end around put us in scoring position.

That first TD to Golden, that’s as close to a given for any college QB.  And high school QBs.

Then UF fumbles the next drive followed by an easy throw to Helm. 

Kudos to Ewers for making those throws, but let’s not act as though that’s indicative of a fiery start.

[mwaadeeb 1207]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Aka a pussy 

No. A college QB who's not perfect.

[Jkwellborn 6686]

276 pages and counting evaluating every off throw of a QB that had us in the playoff last year, 8-1 in the SEC this year, and just threw 5 TDs vs a Blue Blood.

Is Florida a blue blood?

[Hate 20106]

I don’t understand the “pussy” comments. He played well but missed some throws. He still gives this team the best chance to win a title this year. My biggest fear about Ewers is that he will want to come back next year. We don’t need that drama.

[hook me 2092]

11 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Sorry, Mrs. Ewers.

perfect response for someone whose shitty post got called out. 

4 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Screw the stats dude.  We got the most important one.  That is what matters.  Everyone did their part.

But if Sark does not go for it on 4th inside his own 30, it’s possible we go scoreless in the 1st quarter.  Nevermind one of throws could have been picked.  Then the end around put us in scoring position.

That first TD to Golden, that’s as close to a given for any college QB.  And high school QBs.

Then UF fumbles the next drive followed by an easy throw to Helm. 

Kudos to Ewers for making those throws, but let’s not act as though that’s indicative of a fiery start.

screw the stats? so someone going 5/5 for 50+ yards on the first drive is a slow start? that was before the almost bad INT and right before he scrambled for 9 yards which gave Sark the option to go for it. Yes the first TD was wide the fuck open, the “easy” RPO requires reading seeing and a quick trigger which he did. Would you rather him make that throw more difficult? how about the second to golden? how about the drop by Moore? This thread has been shit for 2 weeks and after we drag our nuts and our QB plays well it’s still shit. Give the guy some props and move on. You don’t have to bow down before him but damn, if Moore doesn’t have 2 drops then QE ends with as many TDs as incompletions. That’s a good game.

[Horn of Gabriel 1614]

23 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Sorry, Mrs. Ewers.

pussy

[Codaxx 5716]

23 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Screw the stats dude.  We got the most important one.  That is what matters.  Everyone did their part.

But if Sark does not go for it on 4th inside his own 30, it’s possible we go scoreless in the 1st quarter.  Nevermind one of throws could have been picked.  Then the end around put us in scoring position.

That first TD to Golden, that’s as close to a given for any college QB.  And high school QBs.

Then UF fumbles the next drive followed by an easy throw to Helm. 

Kudos to Ewers for making those throws, but let’s not act as though that’s indicative of a fiery start.

That second series was just masterful from Sark. After missing the FG on the first drive and Quinn’s first 2 throws in that 2nd series, I was thinking not this shit again. Sark called a beautiful series from that pt on, with a tip of the cap to Gibson and his effort on 4th down. The 1st 2 TDs were about as easy as gets for a QB (second being play action to Helm, OL was pass blocking not a RPO). Florida DC gave up on doing anything interesting schematically after that. 

Edited November 10 by Codaxx

[jimmyjazz 45877]

32 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Kudos to Ewers for making those throws, but let’s not act as though that’s indicative of a fiery start.

It's certainly not indicative of a slow start.

[Thatguy 8671]

28 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Is Florida a blue blood?

I think we need to reevaluate who we think are blue bloods. As a society we haven't added to the traditional blue bloods list. However, if you look at modern football some schools are more blue blood than the traditional ones. For example ND hasn't won a NC since 88. Florida has played for 4 and won 3 since then.

[sith_horn 2379]

48 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Is Florida a blue blood?

No. Georgia isn't either. But that doesn't stop some sports writers and commentators from referring to them as such.

[MrBig 5369]

57 minutes ago, Hate said:

I don’t understand the “pussy” comments. He played well but missed some throws. He still gives this team the best chance to win a title this year. My biggest fear about Ewers is that he will want to come back next year. We don’t need that drama.

In that Davis law firm commercial, Quinn said “4444 my final year at Texas”

[Skipper 6127]

1 hour ago, Hook1997 said:

He came it to this weeks games second to last in the country in air yards per attempt.  

This is getting a lot of talk the last few weeks.  But at this point it's pretty obvious that it's flat out the design of our offense and intentional. QE is elite at hitting the short passing game within 5 yards of the LOS in stride with an opportunity to win 1 on 1 matchups.  Our running game is limited between the tackles (both from an OL weakness and RB skillset perspective) but both Wisner and Blue are good to great in the passing game.  We have a massive skill position advantage against every team on our schedule not named UGA so those are winning matchups and a 7 yard swing pass or WR screen works just as well as a 7 yard run.  Also, when it's working like it did yesterday, it helps set up the deep shots or schemed wheel routes, etc.   I'm not saying Quinn doesn't have a tendency to check down too quickly when he's feeling pressure and we aren't keeping pocket clean (he does) but more often than not the short passing game is by design.

[Had Enough 2076]

32 minutes ago, hook me said:

perfect response for someone whose shitty post got called out. 

screw the stats? so someone going 5/5 for 50+ yards on the first drive is a slow start? that was before the almost bad INT and right before he scrambled for 9 yards which gave Sark the option to go for it. Yes the first TD was wide the fuck open, the “easy” RPO requires reading seeing and a quick trigger which he did. Would you rather him make that throw more difficult? how about the second to golden? how about the drop by Moore? This thread has been shit for 2 weeks and after we drag our nuts and our QB plays well it’s still shit. Give the guy some props and move on. You don’t have to bow down before him but damn, if Moore doesn’t have 2 drops then QE ends with as many TDs as incompletions. That’s a good game.

Show me where I have said he did not play well?  Or bitching about a win.

The 5/5 for 50 yards was fine but resulted in no points. I didn’t even attribute it to him.  But zero points is zero points.  That was drive was what we’ve been this season.  No big plays that fizzles out whether that be penalties, whatever.

I would say it didn’t leave him feeling comfortable and confident due to how he started the second series.  The decision to go, the subsequent play calls, the subsequent defensive series allowed a bit of a reset and allowed him to settle in.  It’s not far fetched to say we could have been down after the first two series.

So no you jackass I don’t give a shit about stats.  It’s about wins.  We are the most talented/experienced roster in the country.  And we won.  And you’re welcome to point out where I’ve said he’s a detriment to the seasons objective of winning.

I’ll be about as objective as any son of a bitch on this site.  Probably more practical experience as a participant, parent and fan than the vast majority of shitheads represented here.  But drama and bs sells so here we are.

[Hook1997 5351]

9 minutes ago, Skipper said:

This is getting a lot of talk the last few weeks.  But at this point it's pretty obvious that it's flat out the design of our offense and intentional. QE is elite at hitting the short passing game within 5 yards of the LOS in stride with an opportunity to win 1 on 1 matchups.  Our running game is limited between the tackles (both from an OL weakness and RB skillset perspective) but both Wisner and Blue are good to great in the passing game.  We have a massive skill position advantage against every team on our schedule not named UGA so those are winning matchups and a 7 yard swing pass or WR screen works just as well as a 7 yard run.  Also, when it's working like it did yesterday, it helps set up the deep shots or schemed wheel routes, etc.   I'm not saying Quinn doesn't have a tendency to check down too quickly when he's feeling pressure and we aren't keeping pocket clean (he does) but more often than not the short passing game is by design.

No it’s not totally, it’s when Sark doesn’t trust him and is trying to get him in a rhythm again.  Is it a big part of the offense yes but I’m pretty Sark wants to thrown downfield a bit more and not be second to last in the country.  A bit more balanced like this week would be great going forward.  

Edited November 10 by Hook1997

[Jkwellborn 6686]

Totally agree. It’s night and day when you see arch in the pocket. Arch is to comfortable in the pocket holding the ball to long while ewers is freaking out after 2 seconds. I think both QBs need to work on that and find a median. And I’m not saying there is a controversy, just very noticeable when you get to see both of them play. 

I think Arch is looking for a deeper pass and is confident in his athletic ability to get him out of trouble.

[Eskimohorn 5629]

No the 1st pass Moore dropped was 100% a bad throw

Why dont you sit this one out champ?

[sith_horn 2379]

3 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Yes. He continues to struggle with pocket poise a bit. Sometimes he gets rid of it too early. Sometimes it seems like he passes up an open receiver and then throws it too late after the internal clock should have gone off. Just a bit weird timing. When he’s not pressured, he’s pretty good at finding the open receiver, obviously. 

I think the crux of the matter is poise and let's just omit the word pocket. It's not where it should be in year three. Pointing this out isn't shitting on Quinn and yes this overall game was great for us, but the concern is legitimate against better teams who can bring greater pressure and whose offenses can put us in a hole while ours languishes. Hopefully, this game helped to right his rudder going forward.

Likewise, the OL needs to get better. We have some dudes with high ratings that get discombobulated too often in pass pro. Namely, Williams and Campbell.

[6th Street 6390]

He did what he had to do yesterday. Played within himself and knew his limitations as a passer.

He just needs to be a bus driver and not turn the ball over. Let the WRs make plays on short passes and lean on the defense. 

[Skipper 6127]

4 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

No it’s not totally, it’s when Sark doesn’t trust him and is trying to get him in a rhythm again.  Is it a big part of the offense yes but I’m pretty Sark wants to thrown downfield a bit more and not be second to last in the country.  A bit more balanced like this week would be great going forward.  

I mean sure to some extent.  But with our offensive skillset, the short passing game is absolutely part of the game plan every single week.  I think what Sark wants to do is get teams overplaying (or overfocusing on) the short passing game thus opening up shots down the field.  First TD pass was a great example of this.   Then, I thought the screen pass to Wisner and the check down swing pass to blue were both great examples using Ewers and RB's skill sets to our advantage.  I'm not saying Sark is fine being second to last, but i'm saying I think we intentionally throw within 5 yards WAY more than most teams because it's a matchup advantage.

[Had Enough 2076]

3 minutes ago, Skipper said:

This is getting a lot of talk the last few weeks.  But at this point it's pretty obvious that it's flat out the design of our offense and intentional. QE is elite at hitting the short passing game within 5 yards of the LOS in stride with an opportunity to win 1 on 1 matchups.  Our running game is limited between the tackles (both from an OL weakness and RB skillset perspective) but both Wisner and Blue are good to great in the passing game.  We have a massive skill position advantage against every team on our schedule not named UGA so those are winning matchups and a 7 yard swing pass or WR screen works just as well as a 7 yard run.  Also, when it's working like it did yesterday, it helps set up the deep shots or schemed wheel routes, etc.   I'm not saying Quinn doesn't have a tendency to check down too quickly when he's feeling pressure and we aren't keeping pocket clean (he does) but more often than not the short passing game is by design.

It is not the design of the offense.  If you believe that, you are arguing against Sarks first 3 years here including the first two with Ewers as well as his Bama teams.  That’s even to argue against what Arch did when he started this year.

The short stuff is no doubt a Sark element.  The screen game has always been an element.  Those have not changed.  He likes play action.  Always has.

Now, before yesterday, the approach seemed different.  You could probably attribute the defensive approach to some of that but not all.  We were not attacking deep or the intermediate parts of the field.  It was not the short stuff last year that was Ewers best element but the intermediate.  It would not surprise me if Sark was dialing it back due to the length of the season with the thought of giving the defense more down time.
 

 

 

 

[DreadHead 115]

8 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

I think Arch is looking for a deeper pass and is confident in his athletic ability to get him out of trouble.

It feels like Arch is more comfortable working with what the field gives him, he can throw to players who get open.. improvise, as has been said. But does hold on to the ball a bit too long.

Quinn seems like he always throws to where the play was called. Even longer passes, he launches it to the player it was schemed to go to, which is why it seems like he often overthrows guys, vs., identifying a receiver that gets open and then tactfully throwing to them. He still hasn't mastered looking off safeties, he often only looks at who he's throwing to from jump. He's kind of robotic, which works when he is on but any disruption, he doesn't improvise well.

I'm happy we are winning games, but I can't imagine we will be very successful when playing better teams who lock on to those tendencies (Playoffs). And I'm almost certain Elko and the aggies can disrupt on defense, enough to throw Quinn off unless things change dramatically within the next three games.

[Dahobbs 17522]

1 minute ago, DreadHead said:

It feels like Arch is more comfortable working with what the field gives him, he can throw to players who get open.. improvise, as has been said. But does hold on to the ball a bit too long.

Quinn seems like he always throws to where the play was called. Even longer passes, he launches it to the player it was schemed to go to, which is why it seems like he often overthrows guys, vs., identifying a receiver that gets open and then tactfully throwing to them. He still hasn't mastered looking off safeties, he often only looks at who he's throwing to from jump. He's kind of robotic, which works when he is on but any disruption, he doesn't improvise well.

I'm happy we are winning games, but I can't imagine we will be very successful when playing better teams who lock on to those tendencies (Playoffs). And I'm almost certain Elko and the aggies can disrupt on defense, enough to throw Quinn off unless things change dramatically within the next three games.

None of this is correct.

[Skipper 6127]

6 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

It is not the design of the offense.  If you believe that, you are arguing against Sarks first 3 years here including the first two with Ewers as well as his Bama teams.  That’s even to argue against what Arch did when he started this year.

The short stuff is no doubt a Sark element.  The screen game has always been an element.  Those have not changed.  He likes play action.  Always has.

Now, before yesterday, the approach seemed different.  You could probably attribute the defensive approach to some of that but not all.  We were not attacking deep or the intermediate parts of the field.  It was not the short stuff last year that was Ewers best element but the intermediate.  It would not surprise me if Sark was dialing it back due to the length of the season with the thought of giving the defense more down time.
 

I think Sark is certainly capable of mixing up what we do more of based on personnel and skillsets.  I think this year, particularly given RB skillsets and limitations, he has decided to utilize the short passing game more as an extension of the run.  Andi I don't think Ewers gets enough credit for how good he is at putting the ball exactly where it needs to be in the short passing/screen game to give our athletes a chance to work in space.  Look at the Blue swing pass.  It could have easily been a TFL if that ball was placed anywhere else and instead it went for 50.  That is something Manning didn't seem to quite have yet (at least not at QE's level) based on his limited time.

Edited November 10 by Skipper

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13 hours ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Fayetteville is going to be loud and nasty.  Hopefully, Ewers and the OL can can do what they did today.

Fayetteville is going to be loud and nasty.  Hopefully, Ewers and the OL can can do what they did today.

How does the pig front 7 compare to Florida’s?   To Georgia’s?

[6th Street 6390]

Just need Quinn to be a Trent Dilfer bus driver 

[Had Enough 2076]

54 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's certainly not indicative of a slow start.

Missing a wide open TD and throwing what could have been a pick in your 2nd drive after getting no points can be considered as such, yes.

Things happened that helped get him going.  That’s what team is.  It’s ok.  We still won, and it has no impact on the rest of the season.  I view things in context of team and what’s a reasonable expectation.  The defense was out good; the offense needed a Sark jumpstart with a great job by Gibson.

[dcar00 14146]

as long as he is driving this bus I'm good.

[hook me 2092]

48 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Show me where I have said he did not play well?  Or bitching about a win.

The 5/5 for 50 yards was fine but resulted in no points. I didn’t even attribute it to him.  But zero points is zero points.  That was drive was what we’ve been this season.  No big plays that fizzles out whether that be penalties, whatever.

I would say it didn’t leave him feeling comfortable and confident due to how he started the second series.  The decision to go, the subsequent play calls, the subsequent defensive series allowed a bit of a reset and allowed him to settle in.  It’s not far fetched to say we could have been down after the first two series.

So no you jackass I don’t give a shit about stats.  It’s about wins.  We are the most talented/experienced roster in the country.  And we won.  And you’re welcome to point out where I’ve said he’s a detriment to the seasons objective of winning.

I’ll be about as objective as any son of a bitch on this site.  Probably more practical experience as a participant, parent and fan than the vast majority of shitheads represented here.  But drama and bs sells so here we are.

“drama and bs sells” coming from some who calls me a jackass out of the blue is something. so is “as objective as any son of a bitch on this site” after assuming a drive where he went 5 for 5 meant QE wasn’t confident because he got tricked on a zone blitz the next series and it was really the decision to go on 4th (a DIRECT result of Quinns scramble), subsequent play calls, & defense that made him comfortable and confident. really masterful work there of being completely objective. if all that matters are points & winning then how about 5TD passes, no turnovers, and exiting the game up 42-0 early in the third? or are those the wrong kind of points? The things he did well don’t matter if they didn’t produce points but the things he didn’t do well absolutely matter because they could have been detrimental (even though they weren’t) and “we could have been down after the first 2 series” because things a b and c could have happened outweigh the fact that we could have been up by 14 or 10 if wisner doesn’t lose 7, Campbell doesn’t get bullied, & Bert doesn’t miss a FG.. you know, all things that ACTUALLY happened. super duper objective. 

[MissingInAction 25003]

Ewers appeared to remove his head from the ass of Texas football.

Dude is gonna light up all the assholes 

[Had Enough 2076]

24 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I think Sark is certainly capable of mixing up what we do more of based on personnel and skillsets.  I think this year, particularly given RB skillsets and limitations, he has decided to utilize the short passing game more as an extension of the run.  Andi I don't think Ewers gets enough credit for how good he is at putting the ball exactly where it needs to be in the short passing/screen game to give our athletes a chance to work in space.  Look at the Blue swing pass.  It could have easily been a TFL if that ball was placed anywhere else and instead it went for 50.  That is something Manning didn't seem to quite have yet (at least not at QE's level) based on his limited time.

We’re all limited without the All-22 so it’s difficult to say with certainty what we’re doing and what defenses are doing.  It’d be interesting to get the insight on these considerations.  I agree that we like the short stuff as running game extensions.  But we were down almost 10% in the 10+ yards.  That’s quite a drop over last year.  Yesterday we were up approaching 15% more targets in those areas as compared to Ewers previous season totals.

As for Manning, in my opinion, his sample size is too limited and sporadic to know.  He does seem to enjoy heaving it at this point.

I am not sure on the short range accuracy.  It’s only the Longhorns that I see every play of every game so it’s difficult for me to judge how good others are.  

 

[Had Enough 2076]

15 minutes ago, hook me said:

“drama and bs sells” coming from some who calls me a jackass out of the blue is something. so is “as objective as any son of a bitch on this site” after assuming a drive where he went 5 for 5 meant QE wasn’t confident because he got tricked on a zone blitz the next series and it was really the decision to go on 4th (a DIRECT result of Quinns scramble), subsequent play calls, & defense that made him comfortable and confident. really masterful work there of being completely objective. if all that matters are points & winning then how about 5TD passes, no turnovers, and exiting the game up 42-0 early in the third? or are those the wrong kind of points? The things he did well don’t matter if they didn’t produce points but the things he didn’t do well absolutely matter because they could have been detrimental (even though they weren’t) and “we could have been down after the first 2 series” because things a b and c could have happened outweigh the fact that we could have been up by 14 or 10 if wisner doesn’t lose 7, Campbell doesn’t get bullied, & Bert doesn’t miss a FG.. you know, all things that ACTUALLY happened. super duper objective. 

You did refer to someone’s else’s post as “shitty.”  I never said I couldn’t engage in the drama and bs.

Objectivity and opinions are not necessarily opposing views.  I guess I’ll rethink whether confidence has any impact on a QB.  Or any athlete for that matter.   Thanks for pointing that out.

We were simply discussing whether it was a fast start.  An opinion.  I gave you my thoughts.  Yes, we had multiple mishaps throughout.  I did not point those things.  I also didn’t point out the wonderful routes and pass protection and catches that went into that 5/5 either.  Did you?

We succeed and fail as a team.  I think we win it all.  You?  If that happens, I do not care about stays.  You can extrapolate that to each individual game.

[6th Street 6390]

If he can take care of the ball Quinn can be our Greg McElroy 

[Sawbonz 27527]

I think the best thing for him will be to go to a team with an established starter where he can watch and learn for a couple of years. The game needs to slow down for him. 
 

Sadly that’s rare these days. I think if he stays healthy he’s definitely good enough to take this team to the playoff final. I’m most worried about Auburn’s apparent yips 

[Hagbard Celine 10848]

just rewatched the 1st half

quinn's best throw was the juggled deandre moore no-td just before the blue reception / blue run td end of the half

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