QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Codaxx 6214]

3 minutes ago, sunset87 said:

What’s the deal with Dart? I haven’t watched OM much this season, but their offense seems prolific. 
 

Draft stock seems pretty low. I guess he’s inconsistent? But he’s mobile and has a pretty good arm. Definitely put up some numbers this year.

Draft and college performance are not always aligned. Quinn has the 1st round arm that GM may fall in love with, but his tape isn’t top 3 rounds 

[StassneyHorn 6755]

14 hours ago, gurt said:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/738/025/db0.jpg

Can’t post a picture online and can’t read. Look at the other brain trusts who are seriously responding.

[Steelers Roll Left 1280]

9-1, and going absolutely nowhere is how I felt after watching Quinn’s latest showing against Arkansas for a lot of the reasons described in this thread that I don’t need to rehash.  We may not like it, but the schedule HAS been very accommodating.  We’re 10 games in and you can legitimately say Vanderbilt is our strongest win.  Our (2) road games in The SEC: Vandy & Arkansas so The Horns haven’t really been tested like say a Georgia who whooped us in our own house playing a conference schedule that sent them to Tuscaloosa, Oxford, and home to Tennessee while besting Clemson non-con while our best non-con is a now clear .500 Michigan decimated by last season departures.  I wrote in the game-thread that Sark is in a tough place because it should be clear now that Quinn caps where this team likely can go against playoff competition, but game 11 is mighty late to be making a change.  Maybe he’s waiting for that adversity to make the change (ala 1st half v Georgia), perhaps in The A&M game or playoffs, the path his mentor, Saban, took w/ Hurts and Tua in the national title game, but I can’t imagine Sark looking at Quinn’s performances since his OU return getting the program where he wants to step it up to next

Edited November 17 by Steelers Roll Left

[sunset87 253]

5 hours ago, Codaxx said:

Draft and college performance are not always aligned. Quinn has the 1st round arm that GM may fall in love with, but his tape isn’t top 3 rounds 

Yeah, I get that. Still think Dart goes quite a bit higher than the 11th QB taken.

Ewers, who knows. He has arm talent but his ability to successfully throw the ball down field, with all of his “arm talent” hasn’t been showing up much this season. I think he just needs to play with more confidence, which is easier said than done.

Edited November 17 by sunset87

[Steelers Roll Left 1280]

2 minutes ago, Steelers Roll Left said:

9-1, and going absolutely nowhere is how I felt after watching Quinn’s latest showing against Arkansas for a lot of the reasons described in this thread that I don’t need to rehash.  We may not like it, but the schedule HAS been very accommodating.  We’re 10 games in and you can legitimately say Vanderbilt is our strongest win.  Our (2) road games in The SEC: Vandy & Arkansas so The Horns haven’t really been tested like say a Georgia who whooped us in our own house playing a conference schedule that sent them to Tuscaloosa, Oxford, and home to Tennessee while besting Clemson non-con while our best non-con is a now clear .500 Michigan decimated by last season departures.  I wrote in the game-thread that Sark is in a tough place because it should be clear now that Quinn caps where this team likely can go against playoff competition, but game 11 is mighty late to be making a change.  Maybe he’s waiting for that adversity to make the change (ala 1st half v Georgia), perhaps in The A&M game or playoffs, the path his mentor, Saban, took w/ Hurts and Tua in the national title game, but I can’t imagine Sark looking at Quinn’s performances since his OU return getting the program where he wants to step it up to next.  NFL Draft prospects?…..right now I see Quinn, at best, as a desperation draft pick at a position many an NFL GM has caved to the pressure to overdraft given their job’s short life expectancy.  Without that desperation and pressure, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Quinn go undrafted.  

 

[Pig Bellmont 8867]

Maybe that QB keeper to seal the win at arky convinced Quinn he can get hit without getting injured. *maybe*. Honestly glad to play Kentucky at home. I’m expecting some big plays - oh and can Gipson get more touches?

[MissingInAction 25478]

Got this screenshot from 31 flavors

 

[Lou Loomis 929]

It could happen….

[Dnaguy 12572]

6 minutes ago, sunset87 said:

Yeah, I get that. Still think Dart goes quite a bit higher than the 11th QB taken.

Ewers, who knows. He has arm talent but his ability to successfully throw the ball down field, with all of him “arm talent” hasn’t been showing up much this season. I think he just needs to play with more confidence, which is easier said than done.

How does Ewers transition to the next level if he 

A.) Can’t climb a pocket

B.) Gets rattled easily

C.) can’t make a downfield throw

D.) Gets hurt every year?

His best scenario is to be QB2 or 3 for 3-4 years and call it a career.

[Hookem2147 21930]

29 minutes ago, sunset87 said:

What’s the deal with Dart? I haven’t watched OM much this season, but their offense seems prolific. 
 

Draft stock seems pretty low. I guess he’s inconsistent? But he’s mobile and has a pretty good arm. Definitely put up some numbers this year.

He’s a solid player but the veer and shoot QB’s have a track record of not translating super well to the NFL because it doesn’t include a lot of NFL concepts.

It’s a sexy offense for stats but there is a reason Arch was never seriously considering Ole Miss.

Edited November 17 by Hookem2147

[Jkwellborn 7006]

Of course it will be.  We're losing multiple skill players along with some guys on the line, and the offense will be crafted more to Arch's strengths.

“Some” guys on the line? Gonna replace nearly everyone. Including the whole left side and center.

[Dbeasy 15526]

This thread is brutal. Ewers definitely has shown limitations. At the same time, the staff believes they’ve got a pretty good team and they don’t want turnovers to turn a win into a loss. So they definitely emphasize with Ewers the importance of not turning over the ball too much. He might be a bit more cavalier with trying to fit the ball into spots otherwise.  

[Thatguy 9293]

6 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

This thread is brutal. Ewers definitely has shown limitations. At the same time, the staff believes they’ve got a pretty good team and they don’t want turnovers to turn a win into a loss. So they definitely emphasize with Ewers the importance of not turning over the ball too much. He might be a bit more cavalier with trying to fit the ball into spots otherwise.  

Yeah man.

Let's start with the negatives-

Ewers def has his limitations. He really isn't very athletic feet wise and it hurts him in the pocket. He CANNOT throw a deep post to save his life. 90% of the deep ball misses are the same deep post. They need to be thrown to the sideline and he throws them vertically every time. Sark keeps calling it and we keep missing it. He loves touch throws. Sometimes the long throws across the field need some pace on them and he loves to feather them in there. He doesn't trust his eyes and throw with anticipation.

Positives- He loves touch throws. A lot of the reason we don't have the drops you see from other teams on Saturdays is he throws a soft, catchable ball. We forget how accurate he is. Ball is usually caught in stride allowing maximum yac. Tune in other Saturdays and watch what swing/short/intermediate passes look like. They don't look like that. He sees the right play. For example, the wheel up the left sideline that the DB closed on and knocked away was the right read. It was just thrown late or needed to be thrown with more pace. But it was the right read. He can also throw on the run we just don't move the pocket a lot.

Other teams have to throw a lot of curls, stops, outs, and comebacks because their QBs can't hit a 15 yard dig in stride. The dig to Bolden between two defenders was a throw a lot of college QBs can't make. Quinn makes those so regularly that we get pissed when he misses one. So was the throw to Helm that he dropped(the real drop not the one Stassney was talking about). So was the throw on the move to the pilon. He has a good arm. He cannot throw a deep post. You have to protect him. That's who he is.

[Thatguy 9293]

What's crazy is the real reason we are struggling on offense is our inability to run the football. We have to manufacture runs with a ton of misdirection or get the receivers involved. We cannot just line up and run IZ. So a team like Arkansas, that normally has to spin down a safety to deal with good running teams, thus ending up giving up pass plays all over the field, can sit back in that 3-3-5. We had 12 personnel and can't bully them in the run game. A three man front yall. 

[BurntOrange&White 41652]

We'd be able to get better rushing if our QB wasn't a fucking mentally retarded pussy.

[Derka 6402]

2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

What's crazy is the real reason we are struggling on offense is our inability to run the football.

our preseason All SEC RB got hurt just before the season started. but what’s really the issue here is that our third year starter at QB is such a non-threat that defenses don’t even have to worry about anything past the second level, at all. our qb doesn’t scramble, he doesn’t make read progressions, he has to get rid of the ball within 2.2 seconds or he starts panicking, and that’s despite him having arguably the best group of pass catchers in all of college football. imagine how much easier it would be for our second and third choice running backs to get some open lanes if their superstar, NIL millionaire QB wasn’t arguably the worst player on the entire offense and the defense had to actually account for him.

[Atticus 4176]

7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

We'd be able to get better rushing if our QB wasn't a fucking mentally retarded pussy.

Arkansas was running a poor man’s version of the 3 high looks we were getting in the big 12 and got tfls with 5 in the box at times. 
 

Quinn missed some throws yesterday, but that was the bigger issue overall. If we had a more athletic QB, there would have been more opportunities to create once the pocket broke down

[Derka 6402]

throwing backup players under the bus when you refuse to levy even a modicum of criticism to the biggest underachiever on the offense (with a $1M+ NIL deal) is wild. 

[Thatguy 9293]

6 minutes ago, Derka said:

our preseason All SEC RB got hurt just before the season started. but what’s really the issue here is that our third year starter at QB is such a non-threat that defenses don’t even have to worry about anything past the second level, at all. our qb doesn’t scramble, he doesn’t make read progressions, he has to get rid of the ball within 2.2 seconds or he starts panicking, and that’s despite him having arguably the best group of pass catchers in all of college football. imagine how much easier it would be for our second and third choice running backs to get some open lanes if their superstar, NIL millionaire QB wasn’t arguably the worst player on the entire offense and the defense had to actually account for him.

They aren't stacking the line of scrimmage Derka. Arkansas trotted out there in a 3-3-5. On 16 of Quinn's dropbacks they only rushed 3. That means they dropped 8. People are keeping their safeties back because we are no threat to them running the football. If they were stacking the box we would see 1v1 receivers in routes and we don't.

1 minute ago, Derka said:

throwing backup players under the bus when you refuse to levy even a modicum of criticism to the biggest underachiever on the offense (with a $1M+ NIL deal) is wild. 

If you cannot see teams aren't regularly stacking boxes then turn your TV back to basketball.

[hobbes2702 13351]

5 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

They aren't stacking the line of scrimmage Derka. Arkansas trotted out there in a 3-3-5. On 16 of Quinn's dropbacks they only rushed 3. That means they dropped 8. People are keeping their safeties back because we are no threat to them running the football. If they were stacking the box we would see 1v1 receivers in routes and we don't.

If you cannot see teams aren't regularly stacking boxes then turn your TV back to basketball.

We ran for 140 yards yesterday and Blue averaged almost 6 yards a carry. Our RBs need to be better but that ain’t the reason Quinn sucks. It’s just another excuse you give instead of seeing the actual problem.

Edited November 17 by hobbes2702

[BurntOrange&White 41652]

2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

We ran for 140 yards yesterday and Blue averaged almost 6 yards a carry. Our RBs need to be better but that ain’t the reason Quinn sucks. It’s just another excuse you give instead of seeing the actual problem.

Running backs carried 33 times for 147 yards at 4.45 YPC. 

 

 

Edited November 17 by BurntOrange&White

[BurntEyes 6199]

2 hours ago, Steelers Roll Left said:

9-1, and going absolutely nowhere is how I felt after watching Quinn’s latest showing against Arkansas for a lot of the reasons described in this thread that I don’t need to rehash.  We may not like it, but the schedule HAS been very accommodating.  We’re 10 games in and you can legitimately say Vanderbilt is our strongest win.  Our (2) road games in The SEC: Vandy & Arkansas so The Horns haven’t really been tested like say a Georgia who whooped us in our own house playing a conference schedule that sent them to Tuscaloosa, Oxford, and home to Tennessee while besting Clemson non-con while our best non-con is a now clear .500 Michigan decimated by last season departures.  I wrote in the game-thread that Sark is in a tough place because it should be clear now that Quinn caps where this team likely can go against playoff competition, but game 11 is mighty late to be making a change.  Maybe he’s waiting for that adversity to make the change (ala 1st half v Georgia), perhaps in The A&M game or playoffs, the path his mentor, Saban, took w/ Hurts and Tua in the national title game, but I can’t imagine Sark looking at Quinn’s performances since his OU return getting the program where he wants to step it up to next

I said it way earlier in this thread, Sark needed to make the change during Georgia. Arch should have stayed in, and stayed the starter. He made a massive head coaching blunder. He just did. 

I said it before but I think several factors contributed to this decision.

1) Ego. Sark already said, over and over, that Quinn was the starting QB. To change that is to admit he was wrong.

2) Sark is the QB whisperer. So not only would he have been wrong about who the best player was to start, but he couldn't "whisper" to the one he chose. Ego.

3) Fear of benching an NFL drafted QB. To bench Ewers only to have him drafted (which @Codaxx has addressed) would send a sign that Sark "doesnt know shit". That would be the talking point of the talking heads, and might very likely, potentially adversely effect future recruiting efforts. 

4) I think because of 3 someone was in his ear. Was it the talking ear piece on this thread @thatguy that reps Quinn? Was it Texas money guys that love Quinn? Was it NFL scouts? Who knows, but I'm pretty confident this also played a part.

Am I willing to smoke some Hopium and pray that Quinn can win the SEC and lead us to the Championship... I like drugs so sure. 

Does my logical mind see that happening? SEC champ... MAYBE... National champ, can't fucking see it.

Do I want the Hopium to be correct and logic to be regarded, absolutely. 100% 

 

Edited November 17 by BurntEyes

[hobbes2702 13351]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Running backs carried 33 times for 147 yards at 4.45 YPC. 

 

 

I’ll take that all day in the modern game.

[Thatguy 9293]

2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

We ran for 140 yards yesterday and Blue averaged almost 6 yards a carry. Our RBs need to be better but that ain’t the reason Quinn sucks. It’s just another excuse you give instead of seeing the actual problem.

Again. I outlined Quinn's shortcoming to let YOU know I see them. We cannot line up and run right at teams and they know it. The whole idea is to get teams to help in the running game and we cannot do that. Arkansas stayed in their base D and dropped 8 quite a bit against the pass. That is not what you want. You want them to bring down a safety and free up numbers on the back end.

[BurntEyes 6199]

11 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

They aren't stacking the line of scrimmage Derka. Arkansas trotted out there in a 3-3-5. On 16 of Quinn's dropbacks they only rushed 3. That means they dropped 8. People are keeping their safeties back because we are no threat to them running the football. If they were stacking the box we would see 1v1 receivers in routes and we don't.

If you cannot see teams aren't regularly stacking boxes then turn your TV back to basketball.

You rep Quinn or are associated with those that do. That much is clear at this point.

[hobbes2702 13351]

31 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Again. I outlined Quinn's shortcoming to let YOU know I see them. We cannot line up and run right at teams and they know it. The whole idea is to get teams to help in the running game and we cannot do that. Arkansas stayed in their base D and dropped 8 quite a bit against the pass. That is not what you want. You want them to bring down a safety and free up numbers on the back end.

“I listed his shortcomings so I could have a pass to make more excuses”

We literally won the game yesterday because we lined up and ran right at them for the entire 4th quarter.

The safety’s staying high wasn’t the problem. Quinn missing open receivers regularly and panicking in the pocket was. He had their safeties beat deep and couldn’t find targets. The whole reason for the screen game is to get safety’s to step up and we watched it happen for a TD. The problem is Quinn can’t do anything to punish anyone without a perfectly designed single read pass play.

Edited November 17 by hobbes2702

[UTEE97 3890]

Quinn apologists on this thread looking for excuses be like ...

Sometimes the answer is right in front of you, but if you have some connection to him, then I understand why you feel the need to defend him. The rest of the college football world sees him for who he is. Hope he snaps out of it before the Aggy game.

[troph 25089]

43 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Yeah man.

Let's start with the negatives-

Ewers def has his limitations. He really isn't very athletic feet wise and it hurts him in the pocket. He CANNOT throw a deep post to save his life. 90% of the deep ball misses are the same deep post. They need to be thrown to the sideline and he throws them vertically every time. Sark keeps calling it and we keep missing it. He loves touch throws. Sometimes the long throws across the field need some pace on them and he loves to feather them in there. He doesn't trust his eyes and throw with anticipation.

Positives- He loves touch throws. A lot of the reason we don't have the drops you see from other teams on Saturdays is he throws a soft, catchable ball. We forget how accurate he is. Ball is usually caught in stride allowing maximum yac. Tune in other Saturdays and watch what swing/short/intermediate passes look like. They don't look like that. He sees the right play. For example, the wheel up the left sideline that the DB closed on and knocked away was the right read. It was just thrown late or needed to be thrown with more pace. But it was the right read. He can also throw on the run we just don't move the pocket a lot.

Other teams have to throw a lot of curls, stops, outs, and comebacks because their QBs can't hit a 15 yard dig in stride. The dig to Bolden between two defenders was a throw a lot of college QBs can't make. Quinn makes those so regularly that we get pissed when he misses one. So was the throw to Helm that he dropped(the real drop not the one Stassney was talking about). So was the throw on the move to the pilon. He has a good arm. He cannot throw a deep post. You have to protect him. That's who he is.

He does a great job putting the ball in the right spot on the swing passes so blue and wisner can turn up field and make the guy miss. You can’t do that if you have to contort your body to catch the ball or the ball isn’t thrown in stride. 

his limitations are legit. But he’s a solid college QB and if he gets hot in the playoffs we win it all. 

[hobbes2702 13351]

It’s also amazing how much @Thatguy has had to shift his narrative about what’s actually happening. He clearly sees that he’s just wrong about who Quinn is but still feels the need to spin spin spin

[Enemy07 340]

We can with him. Hook'em!

 

[hobbes2702 13351]

Just now, troph said:

He does a great job putting the ball in the right spot on the swing passes so blue and wisner can turn up field and make the guy miss. You can’t do that if you have to contort your body to catch the ball or the ball isn’t thrown in stride. 

his limitations are legit. But he’s a solid college QB and if he gets hot in the playoffs we win it all. 

Being able to put the ball on target for passes behind the line of scrimmage shouldn’t be a badge of honor for a QB on the #3 team in the country. That is one of the dumber narratives Quinn defenders have stuck too.

”but he’s great at ball placement on passes behind the LOS” 

[BurntEyes 6199]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

It’s also amazing how much @Thatguy has had to shift his narrative about what’s actually happening. He clearly sees that he’s just wrong about who Quinn is but still feels the need to spin spin spin

He reps Quinn, or is associated with those who do. 

[HtownHorn 15243]

13 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

Quick question on that….   Did he run the same offense at Alabama when he had a qb who could throw down field?  Did he call the same offense vs Alabama when he could trust his qb to throw downfield?  Does he run the same offense when he calls downfield passing plays at the start of the game and see’s his qb can or can’t do that, that day?  

If you have seen any videos of Sarkisian talk about his offense, every pass play he calls outside the screen game has a deep shot built into it. He instructs his QBs to start there and work their way back down the progressions. This is never changing, having a QB that can hit that deep shot when it's open is going to completely open up everything else.

Edited November 17 by HtownHorn

[troph 25089]

18 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

They aren't stacking the line of scrimmage Derka. Arkansas trotted out there in a 3-3-5. On 16 of Quinn's dropbacks they only rushed 3. That means they dropped 8. People are keeping their safeties back because we are no threat to them running the football. If they were stacking the box we would see 1v1 receivers in routes and we don't.

If you cannot see teams aren't regularly stacking boxes then turn your TV back to basketball.

But we are told it’s because they don’t see the deep ball as a threat. I don’t watch film but with rushing 3-4 that means 7-8 are in pass defense. That’s really hard to beat if you can’t line up and run the ball.

[troph 25089]

4 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Being able to put the ball on target for passes behind the line of scrimmage shouldn’t be a badge of honor for a QB on the #3 team in the country. That is one of the dumber narratives Quinn defenders have stuck too.

”but he’s great at ball placement on passes behind the LOS” 

Two things - I’m not a defender - I think he has limitations that arch won’t have. I just don’t think a RS freshman is going to reliably play good enough to justify yanking the junior. That’s it, pretty simple really.

and in college football, nice touch and leading the RB in space is a lot bigger of a deal than you think. Especially if you’re trying to get 7-8 yards with a 1 on 1 in space.

Edited November 17 by troph

[hobbes2702 13351]

Just now, troph said:

Two things - I’m not a defender - I think he has limitations that arch won’t have. I just don’t think a RS freshman is going to reliably play good enough to justify yanking the junior.

and in college football, nice touch and leading the RB in space is a lot bigger of a deal than you think. Especially if you’re trying to get 7-8 yards with a 1 on 1 in space.

No shit being able to do that is a big deal. It would be a bigger deal if there weren’t dozens of QB able to do it. What the fuck are we talking about here? Those are 10-15 yard throws with no defensive pressure on the person receiving the ball. It’s not exactly the most difficult part of the job.

[Atticus 4176]

Yea people don’t realize how much harder it becomes to throw without a threatening running game. If you give up 2 yards on first down to a run while only having 5-6 in the box, you consider that a win against our offense.

Get us to third down and roll the dice or wait for the team to shoot itself in the foot.

[mwaadeeb 1362]

11 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I said it way earlier in this thread, Sark needed to make the change during Georgia. Arch should have stayed in, and stayed the starter. He made a massive head coaching blunder. He just did. 

I said it before but I think several factors contributed to this decision.

1) Ego. Sark already said, over and over, that Quinn was the starting QB. To change that is to admit he was wrong.

2) Sark is the QB whisperer. So not only would he have been wrong about who the best player was to start, but he couldn't "whisper" to the one he chose. Ego.

3) Fear of benching an NFL drafted QB. To bench Ewers only to have him drafted (which @Codaxx has addressed) would send a sign that Sark "doesnt know shit". That would be the talking point of the talking heads, and might very likely, potentially adversely effect future recruiting efforts. 

4) I think because of 3 someone was in his ear. Was it the talking ear piece on this thread @thatguy that reps Quinn? Was it Texas money guys that love Quinn? Was it NFL scouts? Who knows, but I'm pretty confident this also played a part.

Am I willing to smoke some Hopium and pray that Quinn can win the SEC and lead us to the Championship... I like drugs so sure. 

Does my logical mind see that happening? SEC champ... MAYBE... National champ, can't fucking see it.

Do I want the Hopium to be correct and logic to be regarded, absolutely. 100% 

 

5) Quinn gives us a better chance to win than Arch.

The fact that you can't even imagine that shows how dumb the shit-talkers really are. You'll all look back in ten years and say Quinn was a solid Texas QB, but you can't say it now because you're small-minded. 

[Skipper 6406]

2 minutes ago, troph said:

He does a great job putting the ball in the right spot on the swing passes so blue and wisner can turn up field and make the guy miss. You can’t do that if you have to contort your body to catch the ball or the ball isn’t thrown in stride. 

At this point this is the only thing he is really consistently elite at.  He's not athletic and goes down too easy and his deep ball has always sucked.  You can live with that if you have the short and mid range accuracy and consistently making the correct reads but we don't have the latter and he's playing way too hesitant..  I was hoping the injury was still nagging and Florida game was the start of Quinn playing confident again.  But yesterday was frustrating.  He didn't play shitty but he wasn't an asset.  We should have been up 3 TD's in the first half and that game should have never been close.   

I like the idea above about just flat out calling a designed QB run early in games to get him to stop thinking and play football.

But if we aren't moving the ball again against a good team that is actually scoring points (unlike Ark in first half yesterday) it's not going to shock me to see Sark pull a Saban in Bama's championship game when he benched Hurts for Tua.

Manning may be more likely to throw a pick so I understand hesitancy to do that in a close game you feel like it still under control, but we're almost certainly going to have to play better offensively to win @ A&M.  The stakes for that game are way too high to give Quinn an entire game to figure it out if we fall behind and he's part of the problem.

 

[troph 25089]

What the quinn haters fail to realize is some of us just don’t see a perfect outcome at all. We see the same limitations you do we just don’t think benching a seasoned veteran with those limitations and replacing him with an inexperienced redshirt freshman who will be a great one in due time but unlikely this year is the right move for this season.  

3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

No shit being able to do that is a big deal. It would be a bigger deal if there weren’t dozens of QB able to do it. What the fuck are we talking about here? Those are 10-15 yard throws with no defensive pressure on the person receiving the ball. It’s not exactly the most difficult part of the job.

You are way too emotional about this. 

[hobbes2702 13351]

4 minutes ago, troph said:

What the quinn haters fail to realize is some of us just don’t see a perfect outcome at all. We see the same limitations you do we just don’t think benching a seasoned veteran with those limitations and replacing him with an inexperienced redshirt freshman who will be a great one in due time but unlikely this year is the right move for this season.  

You are way too emotional about this. 

I’m not emotional about anything and not sure where you’re getting that.
The calling card is he can throw screens. Great. That’s definitely the hard part of playing QB.

Quinn is the limiting factor to this offense. 

Edited November 17 by hobbes2702

[troph 25089]

6 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Yea people don’t realize how much harder it becomes to throw without a threatening running game. If you give up 2 yards on first down to a run while only having 5-6 in the box, you consider that a win against our offense.

Get us to third down and roll the dice or wait for the team to shoot itself in the foot.

It’s why sark said we had to reassert ourselves in the run game coming out of the half.

i think 24 points beats A&M. Their offense isn’t good and our defense is tops in the league. 

[Beau Vine 55824]

I wish the NCAA would keep a statistic on Self-Sacks, the number of times a QB causes a sack on his own.  

 

[Enemy07 340]

Would or would not? She has a very pointy chin though,

[troph 25089]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

I’m not emotional about anything and not sure where you’re getting that.
The calling card is he can throw screens. Great. That’s definitely the hard part of playing QB.

Quinn is the limiting factor to this offense. 

Arch will have his own limitations he’s an inexperienced redshirt freshman for pete’s sake.

[Irish Wrist Watch 1470]

4 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

 

 

This is the play I tried to describe about five pages back. WTF. Quinn goes down way way too fucking easily. 

Quinn absolutely needs to start running the ball to get his fucking footing back. He used to be pretty nimble on his feet. He needs to take off running on some QB options, dodge a few people and remember what it feels like to plant and change directions. He's lost right now because Sark has him tiptoeing around the fucking pocket. Fuck that! 

I guess Sark's as afraid of a Quinn injury as he is. We can tiptoe thru a couple of more wins, but when the going gets tough, it will be too late for Quinn to get his feet back.

I guess at this point Quinn is a head case - but one with talent. He just plain forgot how to run with the football. Start the next game this way and I predict a complete turnaround.

[Atticus 4176]

1 minute ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

This is the play I tried to describe about five pages back. WTF. Quinn goes down way way too fucking easily. 

Quinn absolutely needs to start running the ball to get his fucking footing back. He used to be pretty nimble on his feet. He needs to take off running on some QB options, dodge a few people and remember what it feels like to plant and change directions. He's lost right now because Sark has him tiptoeing around the fucking pocket. Fuck that! 

I guess Sark's as afraid of a Quinn injury as he is. We can tiptoe thru a couple of more wins, but when the going gets tough, it will be too late for Quinn to get his feet back.

I guess at this point Quinn is a head case - but one with talent. He just plain forgot how to run with the football. Start the next game this way and I predict a complete turnaround.

He actually juked someone pretty good against Florida on a scramble that set up the 4 and 1 conversion near the beginning of the game

[hobbes2702 13351]

1 minute ago, troph said:

Arch will have his own limitations he’s an inexperienced redshirt freshman for pete’s sake

 

I’m sure he will have limitations. 
Here’s the limitation he doesn’t have: he can complete passes other than screens. 

[BurntEyes 6199]

11 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

5) Quinn gives us a better chance to win than Arch.

The fact that you can't even imagine that shows how dumb the shit-talkers really are. You'll all look back in ten years and say Quinn was a solid Texas QB, but you can't say it now because you're small-minded. 

I'm not just considering this year you dumb fucking Quinn cock gobbling moron. And.. no, he doesn't 

[mwaadeeb 1362]

Just now, BurntEyes said:

I'm not just considering this year you dumb fucking Quinn cock gobbling moron. And.. no, he doesn't 

So you're also considering the year he won the Big 12 and got us into the playofs you fucking idiot?