QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[BurntOrange&White 41,653]

1 minute ago, troph said:

Y’all think I don’t acknowledge he played poorly, I mean the whole offense shit the bed too 

I just don’t see a RS Fr playing better. Sorry don’t see it. Sark doesn’t either. 

if you want me to acknowledge QE has regressed I have and will again. 

arch isn’t the answer this year. QE showing up is. 

Quinn Ewers showing up….the 3 year question. Yeah let’s just pray 

[sith_horn 2,486]

3 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m extremely disappointed in QE’s play this year.  It’s counter balanced by pleasant surprise our defense is so dominant.

I just think QE can play elite and he has before. I simply do not think Arch will play like a seasoned veteran in the playoffs. I truly believe a no turnover QE who throws for 200 is enough to win the playoffs. And I think arch is simply too inexperienced to take the chance on what is our best chance at a title since well last year. 

I wouldn't call our defense dominant. It's pretty good, but I'd say that it's questionable whether they can hold up against playoff teams if our offense is languishing for several quarters. Arkansas was marching down the field until they fumbled and doing it both passing and running. But hopefully they will continue to improve and peak down the stretch. They are certainly playing well enough for us to win if our offense gets better. And to do that, Quinn simply HAS to do better than he has been. And maybe he will.

[BurntOrange&White 41,653]

Quinn is nothing but an above average QB with good to great arm. It’s a shame he’s such a fucking mental pussy. 

[mwaadeeb 1,362]

2 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

I’m not saying that Arch is our underutilized savior, but the opposite could also be true. Maybe Arch hits some passes or makes some play and those games aren’t as close. 
 

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. 

Fair, which makes it debatable.

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5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Just modern football. It’s extremely hard to go a season where someone doesn’t get you. Texas has only played 1 top 20 offense this year by FEI (18 Georgia). To win a title there will be a game the offense needs to 27 or more 

I think only Oregon but that may be PTSD from last year in Dallas. 

[Hank_Hill 19,772]

14 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Because turnovers and the worst QB play since Hudson Card vs Arkansas in 2021. That game is the epitome of why we need elite QB play to win a title. We will have to 2-4 games like that game to win a title. 

It’s not at all actually. Average QB play wins that game. 

[Dark Horse 2,407]

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

Between the hashes is a little different than throwing over the middle bexause it includes some of the vertical stuff hash stuff. IE, one of the curls we caught for about 15 yards. I just watched it back and counted 1 complete to Golden across the middle where the throw was longer than 5 air yards. I might have missed 1 but that is an insanely low percentage of throws. It’s a problem 

 

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3 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

I wouldn't call our defense dominant. It's pretty good, but I'd say that it's questionable whether they can hold up against playoff teams if our offense is languishing for several quarters. Arkansas was marching down the field until they fumbled and doing it both passing and running. But hopefully they will continue to improve and peak down the stretch. They are certainly playing well enough for us to win if our offense gets better. And to do that, Quinn simply HAS to do better than he has been. And maybe he will.

The only teams that can mash our D are ones that have massive a massive Oline and can run it straight at you. Frankly that’s the best offensive strategy for Arkansas and in the second half they got a TD and turned it over. Our defense is pretty fucking legit. 

[BurntOrange&White 41,653]

Just now, troph said:

The only teams that can mash our D are ones that have massive a massive Oline and can run it straight at you. Frankly that’s the best offensive strategy for Arkansas and in the second half they got a TD and turned it over. Our defense is pretty fucking legit. 

Which would be pretty much every team that makes the playoffs except for big 12 or Boise yeah?

[Had Enough 2,108]

5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Just modern football. It’s extremely hard to go a season where someone doesn’t get you. Texas has only played 1 top 20 offense this year by FEI (18 Georgia). To win a title there will be a game the offense needs to 27 or more. I hope I am wrong about that, because it would be great to watch the defense hold everyone below 17 pts. 

Yep, very difficult.  There’s no doubt we have a very good defense but for me there are still questions as to exactly how good.  The pig 2nd half approach is how you attack us.  The Alfred Collins fumble was huge because they were driving again.  17 and below would be quite the accomplishment.

[Cairn Horn88 8,500]

Well, I know one thing for sure….Quinn in the horse we are riding until we aren’t.  So hang on.

[AnotherLawyer 398]

43 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

Why don't you try reading my posts on the subject just a few above yours. As for beating Quinn out in practice, this isn't a fall camp competition situation. And Quinn doesn't have to worry about contact in practice. Football games are played full contact, not 7 on 7.

I don't need to prove to you that your statement was ridiculous. It was and you can accept that or not.

“I don’t need to prove it”…so clearly JAG who doesn’t know Jack shit just like the rest of us. QBs get replaced mid-season all the time if they’re ineffective. If Arch was showing he was going to be more effective than Ewers at getting Texas to the CFP and national championship, he would be QB1.

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Which would be pretty much every team that makes the playoffs except for big 12 or Boise yeah?

Not really.  Oregon no, BYU no, ND no, Tenn maybe, Uga yes, Bama not really, Ohio state, haven’t watched enough, ACC, no. Pretty much the top of the SEC. Even still Arkansas is large as fuck across the front and has a big grown ass man RB and we held them to one TD drive. Legit.

Edited November 17 by troph

[Derka 6,402]

31 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

Ok what about Florida?

the pro-quinn arguments involving the florida game are one of two things: totally disingenuous, or the opinion of someone who can only look at a stat line and who can’t make decisions based on watching the actual game.

QE made a bunch of short throws that ended up going for 30, 40, 50+ yards thanks to our excellent receiving talent. also thanks to sark, who showed his worth with that game plan against a bombed out and depleted florida team. he knew he could beat florida with nothing but one-read/horizontal passes and that’s exactly what we did. and whenever we did try to do anything more dynamic or downfield QE generally biffed it. did he have good stats against florida? yes. did he play a particularly inspiring game? nope. sark was the offensive mvp vs that jv florida team. 

[Codaxx 6,216]

6 minutes ago, troph said:

I think only Oregon but that may be PTSD from last year in Dallas. 

I love this defense. I don’t think it is like that NC Georgia defense, that had high round picks every where. They are one of the best coordinated defenses I have seen. They get turnovers and don’t give up explosives. I just think over the course of what would be 15-16 games, the odds are likely you run into a QB that just plays out of his mind or an OC creates a great game plan. Even The Bama and Georgia NC defenses  needed to be bailed out by their offense in the playoffs 

Edited November 17 by Codaxx

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4 minutes ago, Dark Horse said:

 

I’m no mathematician but that looks like more than zero 

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40 minutes ago, troph said:

Dude drunk ass Jesse Palmer

Is that why he sounds the way he does?

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

I love this defense. I don’t think it is like that NC Georgia defense, that had high round picks every where. They are one of the best coordinated defenses I have seen. They get turnovers and don’t give up explosives. I just think over the course of what would be 15-16 games, the odds are likely you run into a QB that just plays out of his mind or an OC creates a great game plan. Even The Bama and Georgia NC defended needed to be bailed out by their offense in the playoffs 

QE has done that. I actually think he’s got some big games in him left. I could be wrong. I still think no turnovers, 350 total yards can be enough unless DG runs amuck like it’s the state fair and he’s a sooner again. 

[BurntOrange&White 41,653]

3 minutes ago, troph said:

Not really.  Oregon no, BYU no, ND no, Tenn maybe, Uga yes, Bama not really, Ohio state, haven’t watched enough, ACC, no. Pretty much the top of the SEC. Even still Arkansas is large as fuck across the front and has a big grown ass man RB and we held them to one TD drive. Legit.

NDs line bullied A&M. 
 

Oregon has a big line, Tennessee has a big line, Bama has a big line, Ohio state does. 
 

Arkansas line isn’t talented. All the playoff teams outside of big 12 team and Boise will have large offensive lines that are talented. 

[Hank Kingsley 21,598]

Most of us understand the QB situation and are just venting. Quinn is the starter. 

That said, enough of the pussyfooting and conservative play out on the field. His draft stock is sinking by the hour, his tape since the Michigan game is bad. Get him out of the pocket more and tell him to use his fucking legs and run. If he gets hurt, he gets hurt. We have the best backup QB in the country. But if Quinn can be a threat AT ALL on the move, it opens up everything else on offense. 

 

 

[Derka 6,402]

28 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

You’re wrong, but you’re allowed to be. Turnover free football and our defense is enough

every single quinn advocate has been shitting all over our running game throughout this thread, yet you same people want to say that we can win a national title on 50 passing yards per quarter?

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3 minutes ago, Derka said:

the pro-quinn arguments involving the florida game are one of two things: totally disingenuous, or the opinion of someone who can only look at a stat line and who can’t make decisions based on watching the actual game.

QE made a bunch of short throws that ended up going for 30, 40, 50+ yards thanks to our excellent receiving talent. also thanks to sark, who showed his worth with that game plan against a bombed out and depleted florida team. he knew he could beat florida with nothing but one-read/horizontal passes and that’s exactly what we did. and whenever we did try to do anything more dynamic or downfield QE generally biffed it. did he have good stats against florida? yes. did he play a particularly inspiring game? nope. sark was the offensive mvp vs that jv florida team. 

Similar arguments can be made re Arch and his performances against ULM and Miss St which are trotted out here as evidence he’s a guaranteed 300 yards passing 50 running and 1 TO max in high pressured playoff games. they aren’t good barometers of play in big time games

[BurntEyes 6,199]

49 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

"The QB on our 11-1 team in the playoff and SEC championship hunt isn't playing to our standard, we should bail on this season and toss in the inexperienced RS Freshman to get us ready for next year!"

Never change, Surly.

So you think Quinn can win a championship for Texas?

That's what it boils down to. 

If you do think Quinn can, then he should continue to play. If you don't think he can, then we should play Arch so he has playing time and prep for next season.

Then there's me, it's too late at this point to win a NC with either. Sark already shit the bed not making the change at Georgia. Because my long list prior he can't and sadly this season is most likely a wash. However, I'll smoke Hopium with he Quinn cock gobbling crowd because it's better than nothing. 

I'll also wager I'm one of the few here arguing the point either way that has a hotel room booked and tickets for both the SEC championship and the National Championship.

Edit - Like Sark, Texas and all Longhorn nation, at this point, despite not getting our inside draw on the turn we're pot committed. However, I know my odds and admit them openly.

 

Edited November 17 by BurntEyes

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2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Even The Bama and Georgia NC defended needed to be bailed out by their offense in the playoffs 

I do think the portal has screwed with offensive continuity.  Defenses may be more apt to dare you to drive the field too and see if you can be patient as well.  The clock rules allow the game to be shortened some.  Ultimately points may be harder to come by.

[Codaxx 6,216]

5 minutes ago, troph said:

QE has done that. I actually think he’s got some big games in him left. I could be wrong. I still think no turnovers, 350 total yards can be enough unless DG runs amuck like it’s the state fair and he’s a sooner again. 

Before the Vandy game I said the 1st half maybe the most important half of Quinn’s career. I wouldn’t say that about Kentucky, but another ugly 1st half and it will get interesting. That probably means he comes out and looks great in the 1st half vs Kentucky. Just because that is the roller coaster that Quinn is right now 

Edited November 17 by Codaxx

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

NDs line bullied A&M. 
 

Oregon has a big line, Tennessee has a big line, Bama has a big line, Ohio state does. 
 

Arkansas line isn’t talented. All the playoff teams outside of big 12 team and Boise will have large offensive lines that are talented. 

I don’t give a fuck about A&M don’t you aggy roller coaster at all? Their program is born to lose. 
 

Oregon won’t run it SEC style. I already said Tenn and Uga. 
 

so that leaves Bama and Ohio state. 
 

I’ll let you win though, it’s Sunday I’d like to laugh and enjoy it a bit.

so fuck it, bring in arch, Quinn sucks. Do it sark, we know better.

[Derka 6,402]

Just now, troph said:

Similar arguments can be made re Arch and his performances against ULM and Miss St which are trotted out here as evidence he’s a guaranteed 300 yards passing 50 running and 1 TO max in high pressured playoff games. they aren’t good barometers of play in big time games

not really. arch was throwing downfield, constantly, and effectively; he was making his reads, stepping up in the pocket, hitting timing routes downfield; he was scrambling for first downs and big gains; he outran UTSA’s entire secondary for a 65 yard TD where he turned around and mocked them at the end. quinn has done none of that. quinn has been consistently underwhelming and needing to be supported by his surrounding cast and coaches. Arch has been a difference maker; quinn has held people back.

[Hank_Hill 19,772]

Wisconsin beats Oregon yesterday with Ewers at QB

[Red Five 41,596]

11 minutes ago, Dark Horse said:

 

1-6 on passes 20+ yards and the one completion was a throw any of us could have made. 

[BurntEyes 6,199]

2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Before the Vandy game I said the 1st half maybe the most important half of Quinn’s career. I wouldn’t say that about Kentucky, but another ugly 1st half and it will get interesting. That probably means he comes out and looks great in the 1st half vs Kentucky. Just because that is the roller coaster that Quinn is right now 

You're not wrong.

[sith_horn 2,486]

7 minutes ago, AnotherLawyer said:

“I don’t need to prove it”…so clearly JAG who doesn’t know Jack shit just like the rest of us. QBs get replaced mid-season all the time if they’re ineffective. If Arch was showing he was going to be more effective than Ewers at getting Texas to the CFP and national championship, he would be QB1.

You didn't even respond to the points already made before you went ballistic with your fuck you negs. While Vagisil can't cure what ails thee, it might help to ease some of your symptoms ... counselor.

[B00M 6,725]

1 hour ago, Had Enough said:

Exactly how is he better than Sam?  Are you basing that on winning a championship in a mediocre big 12?  

I struggle to directly compare them because the offenses are so different and Sam was forced to play too early. Sam never had a particularly high completion percentage. We were habitual turtlers under Tom, let’s not romanticize the era. One thing you never wondered about at all with sam was his love of the university and his toughness. So maybe from a pure arm talent perspective, QE has an edge, which is pretty fucking important for a QB. But all the intangibles, the running ability, Sam has him. Sam would be better on this team right now because we need a running QB to open things up. 

[Cairn Horn88 8,500]

10 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

So you think Quinn can win a championship for Texas?

Well, we won’t win one without him.

[jimmyjazz 46,977]

17 minutes ago, Derka said:

the pro-quinn arguments involving the florida game are one of two things: totally disingenuous, or the opinion of someone who can only look at a stat line and who can’t make decisions based on watching the actual game.

QE made a bunch of short throws that ended up going for 30, 40, 50+ yards thanks to our excellent receiving talent. also thanks to sark, who showed his worth with that game plan against a bombed out and depleted florida team. he knew he could beat florida with nothing but one-read/horizontal passes and that’s exactly what we did. and whenever we did try to do anything more dynamic or downfield QE generally biffed it. did he have good stats against florida? yes. did he play a particularly inspiring game? nope. sark was the offensive mvp vs that jv florida team. 

Why do you need Quinn to be Tom Fucking Brady?  Why don't you just need him to play within the system, something Arch arguably can't do yet, and WIN THE FUCKING GAMES?

[BurntEyes 6,199]

Just now, Cairn Horn88 said:

Well, we won’t win one without him.

God damn, why didn't I think of that?!?!

11 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

So you think Quinn can win a championship for Texas?

That's what it boils down to. 

If you do think Quinn can, then he should continue to play. If you don't think he can, then we should play Arch so he has playing time and prep for next season.

Then there's me, it's too late at this point to win a NC with either. Sark already shit the bed not making the change at Georgia. Because my long list prior he can't and sadly this season is most likely a wash. However, I'll smoke Hopium with he Quinn cock gobbling crowd because it's better than nothing. 

I'll also wager I'm one of the few here arguing the point either way that has a hotel room booked and tickets for both the SEC championship and the National Championship.

Edit - Like Sark, Texas and all Longhorn nation, at this point, despite not getting our inside draw on the turn we're pot committed. However, I know my odds and admit them openly.

 

 

[StassneyHorn 6,755]

11 minutes ago, Derka said:

every single quinn advocate has been shitting all over our running game throughout this thread, yet you same people want to say that we can win a national title on 50 passing yards per quarter?

Same people I am not. I have plenty of faith in our running game, they’re just not getting the early attempts that are vital to getting the D out of their comfortable zone calls for playaction to be effective in first half.

A thousand percent you can win a game with 50 pass yards a quarter. 

[Red Five 41,596]

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Why don't you just need him to play within the system

I would argue our "system" is pretty fucking limited right now because of the quarterback. 

[Texasborn91 1,084]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Why do you need Quinn to be Tom Fucking Brady?  Why don't you just need him to play within the system, something Arch arguably can't do yet, and WIN THE FUCKING GAMES?

Bc he’s the 3rd year starter that was supposed to be in NYC this year winning the heisman? That was a legit expectation this year. Dudes making mils to be the starting QB at Texas and he’s not impressing. Defend him after a loss at Aggy and say you didn’t see it coming…

[BurntOrange&White 41,653]

18 minutes ago, troph said:

Similar arguments can be made re Arch and his performances against ULM and Miss St which are trotted out here as evidence he’s a guaranteed 300 yards passing 50 running and 1 TO max in high pressured playoff games. they aren’t good barometers of play in big time games

The fact that similar arguments can be made about a RS freshmen and a 3 year starter is wild to think about. Thanks for proving Quinn isn’t It 

[Had Enough 2,108]

1 minute ago, B00M said:

I struggle to directly compare them because the offenses are so different and Sam was forced to play too early. Sam never had a particularly high completion percentage. We were habitual turtlers under Tom, let’s not romanticize the era. One thing you never wondered about at all with sam was his love of the university and his toughness. So maybe from a pure arm talent perspective, QE has an edge, which is pretty fucking important for a QB. But all the intangibles, the running ability, Sam has him. Sam would be better on this team right now because we need a running QB to open things up. 

You can’t really compare them although those comparisons happen all the time. The environments are completely different.  

People absolutely give Ewers higher marks for his arm but in college you can work around that.  You can easily find many great throws from Sam too.

In my view, the most you can ask of a player is to play as hard as often as you can.  That’s Sam.  His production was damn good too.  The chaos surrounding his teams was off the charts.

[mwaadeeb 1,362]

5 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

Bc he’s the 3rd year starter that was supposed to be in NYC this year winning the heisman? That was a legit expectation this year. Dudes making mils to be the starting QB at Texas and he’s not impressing. Defend him after a loss at Aggy and say you didn’t see it coming…

I would argue that winning is more important than hype.

And yes if he loses to Aggy that changes things. But let's use Aggy, if you're sure Arch gives us a better chance to go into Kyle and beat Aggy you're delusional.

Edited November 17 by mwaadeeb

[BurntOrange&White 41,653]

19 minutes ago, troph said:

I don’t give a fuck about A&M don’t you aggy roller coaster at all? Their program is born to lose. 
 

Oregon won’t run it SEC style. I already said Tenn and Uga. 
 

so that leaves Bama and Ohio state. 
 

I’ll let you win though, it’s Sunday I’d like to laugh and enjoy it a bit.

so fuck it, bring in arch, Quinn sucks. Do it sark, we know better.

You should give a fuck because A&M has a top 3 defensive line in the conference. Holy shit you can’t be this stupid 

 

like holy shit do you watch any other college football? The sec style your talking about isn’t even existed since like 2014. 

Edited November 17 by BurntOrange&White

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3 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

Bc he’s the 3rd year starter that was supposed to be in NYC this year winning the heisman? That was a legit expectation this year.

Which has jack shit to do with our ability to win games.  That fluff hardware means nothing.  Hey to Vince and Colt.

 

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Dudes making mils to be the starting QB at Texas and he’s not impressing. 

Not my money.  I don't give a fuck.  By the way, Arch is making big money and Sark thinks Quinn is the better choice right now for this attempt at a title.  Excuse me if I don't put a lot of stock in the opinions of a bunch of whiny fans on a football forum.

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2 hours ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

It’s crazy to me how many people give Ewers a pass for prolonged stretches of shitty play but think Arch sucks because he had TWO bad drives against the same team that butt fucked Ewers for 2.5 quarters. 

Where did I say he sucks?

[Had Enough 2,108]

7 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

A thousand percent you can win a game with 50 pass yards a quarter. 

Can we win 5?  Isn’t that what you’re saying.

[DaysOff 8,157]

This thread is now worse than the conference realignment masturbation fantasy thread that went on for years. Well done idiots.

[GringoSalado 1,652]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Cool so because he does it 1-2 times a game that means that isn't what he is? Got it.

100%

[mwaadeeb 1,362]

1 minute ago, DaysOff said:

This thread is now worse than the conference realignment masturbation fantasy thread that went on for years. Well done idiots.

All you've done is make it worse, congrats.

[StassneyHorn 6,755]

3 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Can we win 5?  Isn’t that what you’re saying.

Absolutely, if the run game is present and the team isn’t turning the ball over.

[Lou Loomis 929]

1 hour ago, StassneyHorn said:

If Quinn only throws for 200 yards in all upcoming games and no turnovers, the team can win a championship with that.