QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Hank_Hill 19773]

2 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Was he laid out during that throw and still delivered a near perfect pass? The throw to Worthy was a poor throw that Worthy made a great adjustment to catch. Ewers absolutely can not throw back side posts to save his life. Just like the 1st drive on Saturday, Ewers threw the ball over the right shoulder of Golden, who was breaking open on the post route. It's incredible just how poor he is at throwing that pass considering it's a staple of the Sarkisian offense.

Hahahaha I’m sure that was the sentiment on here when it happened. True he hasn’t thrown anything close to that down field since. This whole board was convinced he was the one during those couple drives. 

[Longhornlove 5137]

I see the sky is falling again.....awesome. Pussies.

[Tired Horn 826]

Look, the coach appears to be set on Quinn. So that's done.

Yeah, Quinn hasn't lived up to his hype. But he's not trash by any means. 

Just hope for the best.

[Had Enough 2108]

31 minutes ago, immamac said:

I swear some of y'all can't really remember stuff and it really feels like a lot of you don't watch a lot of football and rewind and Rewatch and watch on slo mo and look at what happened. Just watch once in real time and highlights. 

I probably went off the rails a bit but not sure what you mean here.

My point was that we had QB issues.  But also concern that had Sam returned Sark would have tampered his running, which would have limited him.  But I think he kicks ass anyway because he’s a competitor.

Ive watched roughly half the games in the past 25 years live then a majority again.  Don’t recall missing a single game over that time.  Probably played a shit ton more than most on here growing up.  But hey who cares.  Certainly didn’t mess my drawers against those mighty Marlin Bulldogs like some here did.

[Thatguy 9293]

4 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

Ok man. Owned. Lulz. He fucking sucks at throwing over the middle and we’ve had to almost abandon it entirely as a piece of our offense. Be thank you for the pedantry.

You’re such a clown.

He threw a 15 yard dig on the money to Bolden against an 8 man drop. You guys hate him so much you can't member traumatic experiences. 

[Armybrat 41322]

5 hours ago, troph said:

I don’t care about that I care about under the circumstances we find ourselves in which QB gives us the best chance for a title run. It’s an imperfect solution set but I think it’s QE. Now I’m not happy about our odds with him but I do think the chances are near zero with arch and above zero with QE and if the QE we know is there can show up I think we are the favorite. 

Agree, but that is a mighty BIG “if”.

[jimmyjazz 46978]

47 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

The throw to Worthy was a poor throw that Worthy made a great adjustment to catch.

Wait, what?  This throw?

 

[HtownHorn 15243]

8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Wait, what?  This throw?

 

Yes, that was a shitty throw bcause Worthy had to adjust his route to come back to the ball. Ewers absolutely can not throw the post where it needs to go which is in front of the WR's outside shoulder. Every time it's thrown to the WRs inside shoulder. Worthy made a great adjustment to make it look like a great throw, but had Ewers put it on his outside shoulder Worthy runs under it without falling down. The best thing you can about this throw was it was general vicinity of Worthy as opposed to 5 yards in front and inside like the throw to Golden on Saturday. The ball needed to be where the A starts, not between the A and L, but that's what happens when you have shitty footwork like Ewers does on that throw.

The camera angle from behind Ewers which shows Cook celebrating the play shows just how bad a throw it was.

Edited November 18 by HtownHorn

[6th Street 6655]

[BurntOrange&White 41653]

Yeah because the game is the exact same as early 2000s, good point guys!

[jimmyjazz 46978]

8 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Yes, that was a shitty throw bcause Worthy had to adjust his route to come back to the ball. Ewers absolutely can not throw the post where it needs to go which is in front of the WR's outside shoulder. Every time it's thrown to the WRs inside shoulder. Worthy made a great adjustment to make it look like a great throw, but had Ewers put it on his outside shoulder Worthy runs under it without falling down. The best thing you can about this throw was it was general vicinity of Worthy as opposed to 5 yards in front and inside like the throw to Golden on Saturday. The ball needed to be where the A starts, not between the A and L.

The camera angle from behind Ewers which shows Cook celebrating the play shows just how bad a throw it was.

Holy shit you are peak Texas fan.  Just the worst collection of whiny, know-nothing misanthropes on the internet.  Remind me to never listen to your hot football takes again.  By the way, Kirk Herbstreit has forgotten more about football than you've ever known and he clearly disagrees.  Maybe stop drinking.

 

[tvko23 105]

13 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Yes, that was a shitty throw bcause Worthy had to adjust his route to come back to the ball. Ewers absolutely can not throw the post where it needs to go which is in front of the WR's outside shoulder. Every time it's thrown to the WRs inside shoulder. Worthy made a great adjustment to make it look like a great throw, but had Ewers put it on his outside shoulder Worthy runs under it without falling down. The best thing you can about this throw was it was general vicinity of Worthy as opposed to 5 yards in front and inside like the throw to Golden on Saturday. The ball needed to be where the A starts, not between the A and L, but that's what happens when you have shitty footwork like Ewers does on that throw.

The camera angle from behind Ewers which shows Cook celebrating the play shows just how bad a throw it was.

Glad we're back to square one: relitigating a road win at Alabama to close out Nick Saban's tenure in which Ewers threw for 350. This might be the worst thread of any message board on the Internet.

Edited November 18 by tvko23

[Rex Kramer 1522]

22 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

I’m gonna argue #4. Wasn’t this the first game he hasn’t had an int?

?  He has 21 TDs and 6 picks on the year. He didn’t throw a pick in UM, UF and Ark games. Your argument is dumb. 

[Tired Horn 826]

10 minutes ago, tvko23 said:

Glad we're back to square one: relitigating a road win at Alabama to close out Nick Saban's tenure in which Ewers threw for 350. This might be the worst thread of any message board on the Internet.

Yean, we hate our big wins. 

And if he was worth anything, Ewers would have thrown for 351 yards.

[Cairn Horn88 8500]

1 hour ago, Longhornlove said:

I see the sky is falling again.....awesome. Pussies.

Got Brakes….tap’m!

[MrBig 5602]

21 minutes ago, tvko23 said:

Glad we're back to square one: relitigating a road win at Alabama to close out Nick Saban's tenure in which Ewers threw for 350. This might be the worst thread of any message board on the Internet.

People seem to forget that in the Alabama game Quinn fumbled the ball on a crucial 4th down QB sneak at midfield. It was so bad that we were able to advance it for a 1st down since Quinn never even had possession of the snap to establish it was actually a fumble. That could have been a huge momentum swing had we been unable to convert. 

After that fuckup we got good Quinn and went on to win the game. It wasn’t a clear cut ass whooping of Alabama as people would like to say. But much respect for Quinn and the team winning in Tuscaloosa. 

[BurntOrange&White 41653]

could not agree more Chris.

Edited November 18 by BurntOrange&White

[Cairn Horn88 8500]

As DKR said….dance with the one who brung ya!

[Hank_Hill 19773]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Yes, that was a shitty throw bcause Worthy had to adjust his route to come back to the ball. Ewers absolutely can not throw the post where it needs to go which is in front of the WR's outside shoulder. Every time it's thrown to the WRs inside shoulder. Worthy made a great adjustment to make it look like a great throw, but had Ewers put it on his outside shoulder Worthy runs under it without falling down. The best thing you can about this throw was it was general vicinity of Worthy as opposed to 5 yards in front and inside like the throw to Golden on Saturday. The ball needed to be where the A starts, not between the A and L, but that's what happens when you have shitty footwork like Ewers does on that throw.

The camera angle from behind Ewers which shows Cook celebrating the play shows just how bad a throw it was.

That’s not even the throw I was talking about. 2022. 

[Thatguy 9293]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Was he laid out during that throw and still delivered a near perfect pass? The throw to Worthy was a poor throw that Worthy made a great adjustment to catch. Ewers absolutely can not throw back side posts to save his life. Just like the 1st drive on Saturday, Ewers threw the ball over the right shoulder of Golden, who was breaking open on the post route. It's incredible just how poor he is at throwing that pass considering it's a staple of the Sarkisian offense.

So the scenario has to be he was laid out? How hard does the hit have to be and how soon after the ball was let go? Does it have to be a route like that or can it be another route? How far does the route have to be from the line? Does it have to be a hit coming from his right or can the guy be coming blind side? Does the guy have to come untouched or can he come free after an initial block? Do we have to have verbal confirmation from Sark that the QB saw him coming and knew he was gonna get hit? Or is a post game interview of him explaining knowing he was going to get hit ok enough? I just wanna get it right before I post something and get told it wasn't the same.

[Rex Kramer 1522]

11 hours ago, boilerhorn said:

This year's QB draft class is not exactly great, so it is a good year for him to go pro.  NFL Draft Buzz has a QB ranking for the 2025 draft.

1. Sanders
2. Ward
3. Ewers
4. Milroe
5. Nussmeier
6. Beck
7. Gabriel
8. Altair
9. Rourke
10. Klubnick
11. Dart

CBS has Ewers as the #3 QB and #18 overall prospect.
ESPN has Ewers as the #3 QB and #34 overall prospect.

We've seen so much of Ewers that most of us would declare "he's not the 3rd best QB coming out" or "he sucks" or whatever.  Sanders is the clear #1 QB (IMO).  After that, it's up in the air.  
In 2024, 6 QBs were picked in the top-12 picks: Williams, Daniels, Maye, Penix, McCarthy, Nix.  The next QB - Spencer Rattler - was not picked until the 5th round.

Teams who may be looking for a QB - and be wiling to spend a high round pick on it.

1. NYG
2. Browns
3. Panthers
4. Raiders
5. Dolphins
6. Titans
7. Rams

Very few new mock drafts have Ewers in the first round, but many have him in 2nd round.

fwiw

@futureman 

5th round. lol. 

[Guadaloopy 11129]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Holy shit you are peak Texas fan.  Just the worst collection of whiny, know-nothing misanthropes on the internet.  Remind me to never listen to your hot football takes again.  By the way, Kirk Herbstreit has forgotten more about football than you've ever known and he clearly disagrees.  Maybe stop drinking.

 

Oh he has shitty baseball takes, too.  A little something for everyone.  

[BurntOrange&White 41653]

1 minute ago, Guadaloopy said:

Oh he has shitty baseball takes, too.  A little something for everyone.  

We can all agree that David Pierce is a pussy though. Except for maybe @Balcones 

[UTEE97 3890]

This is what this thread feels like.

[BurntOrangeBlooded15 1691]

The way that Surly feels about Quinn reminds me of the way Shaggy felt about Dom Espinosa lmao

 

At the end of the day, Quinn is gonna be a repetitive name in the history of this program, has won a fuck of games as a starter and has lead us this year to 9-1 and #3 in the nation.  It also can be true that idk if we win a title with yesterday’s Quinn. Michigan/Florida Quinn, bring it.   D is gonna be good enough to keep us in any game we play.  

[Hookem10 851]

If average Quinn is what we get then sark will need to scheme the offense to win games. Earn his paycheck. Score enough points and protect the defense 

[CurlyDumps 4618]

This thread is gonna be very different after Quinn pisses down his leg in College Station. 

[MrBig 5602]

43 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

This is what this thread feels like.

I would’ve gone with a gif of Quinn throwing a pass to the back of Ja’Tavion Sanders’ helmet but I can’t find that clip anywhere. 

[Stunns38 3763]

This thread is gonna be very different after Quinn pisses down his leg in College Station. 

I really hope he and Sark can handle the pressure in aggyland . Sark is going to have to earn his money with best A+ play calling. We shouldn’t be discussing this on a 4th year, 3rd year starter but here we are. He is who is he so all we can do is hope the best .

[Hank_Hill 19773]

28 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

This thread is gonna be very different after Quinn pisses down his leg in College Station. 

Is it?  Some people are definitely rooting for it

[futureman 22664]

2 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

@futureman 

5th round. lol. 

I foresee a spencer rattler-like fall down the draft boards.  5th round.

[Funk Doctor Spock 13121]

David Pierce sucks. We could have landed Paul Skenes if he weren't a  moron. Skenes wanted to come here but Piece refused his NIL deal because he wanted every player to get the same amount. Fucking idiot. So of course he goes to LSU and wins a NC. God I loathe Pierce so much. 

Edited November 18 by Funk Doctor Spock

[Vegas64 706]

Here is the thing. If Quinn's pass to Worthy against Bama last year sucked, I want that sucky Quinn back. Because his long balls against Arky were 7 yards overthrown and just plain horrible.

[tx 3 putt 78470]

1 hour ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

David Pierce sucks. We could have landed Paul Skenes if he weren't a  moron. Skenes wanted to come here but Piece refused his NIL deal because he wantes every player to get free same amount. Fucking idiot..So of course he goes to LSU and wins a NC. God I loathe Pierce so much. 

[Derka 6402]

5 hours ago, Hookem10 said:

If average Quinn is what we get then sark will need to scheme the offense to win games. Earn his paycheck. Score enough points and protect the defense 

that’s what sark has already been doing for two years. quinn has had 5x as many shaky games as he has had games where he cruises and looks confident and capable. sark was already dumbing down his offense for quinn last year, and this year it’s gotten so bad that the offense has essentially been reduced to nothing but quick hitters. quinn is not some up and down qb, he is who he is, and we’ve been getting “average quinn” the overwhelming majority of the time the last two years. this is who we are. sark has been the one winning us games on offense for two years now, not quinn. 

Edited November 18 by Derka

[Derka 6402]

4 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Is it?  Some people are definitely rooting for it

absolutely nobody here is rooting for us to lose to a&m.

[Derka 6402]

QE, with sark as his third year coach, and surrounded by the best pass catchers in america, is no.25 nationally in QB RTG, and no.68 nationally in yards gained oer pass.

Arch Manning is no.2 nationally in both categories. 

weird how they have the exact same coach and surrounding cast, and yet both the eyeball test and the stats show that sark runs totally different offenses for each qb, with the arch manning offense being much more dynamic and explosive. hmm…i wonder what conclusions we can draw from that.

[Thatguy 9293]

22 minutes ago, Derka said:

QE, with sark as his third year coach, and surrounded by the best pass catchers in america, is no.25 nationally in QB RTG, and no.68 nationally in yards gained oer pass.

Arch Manning is no.2 nationally in both categories. 

weird how they have the exact same coach and surrounding cast, and yet both the eyeball test and the stats show that sark runs totally different offenses for each qb, with the arch manning offense being much more dynamic and explosive. hmm…i wonder what conclusions we can draw from that.

301 pages, 15,307 posts, and Derka just posted the dumbest post in this thread. My 16 year old daughter could answer this one for you Derka. She plays on a volleyball team that is miles better than her district. Early in the season they were playing really highly ranked teams like Dripping Springs and Fulshear in good Pre District tournaments. She got hurt just before district play and didn't return until just before playoffs. Her backup has a higher hitting percentage because she only played vs the shitty district teams. Good thing her coach isn't you or they lose 1st round of the playoffs.

[Hook1997 5486]

40 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

301 pages, 15,307 posts, and Derka just posted the dumbest post in this thread. My 16 year old daughter could answer this one for you Derka. She plays on a volleyball team that is miles better than her district. Early in the season they were playing really highly ranked teams like Dripping Springs and Fulshear in good Pre District tournaments. She got hurt just before district play and didn't return until just before playoffs. Her backup has a higher hitting percentage because she only played vs the shitty district teams. Good thing her coach isn't you or they lose 1st round of the playoffs.

That was a pretty bad comparison because using your way of thinking, we just played the worst pass defense in our “district”…..  

[Derka 6402]

57 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

301 pages, 15,307 posts, and Derka just posted the dumbest post in this thread. My 16 year old daughter could answer this one for you Derka. She plays on a volleyball team that is miles better than her district. Early in the season they were playing really highly ranked teams like Dripping Springs and Fulshear in good Pre District tournaments. She got hurt just before district play and didn't return until just before playoffs. Her backup has a higher hitting percentage because she only played vs the shitty district teams. Good thing her coach isn't you or they lose 1st round of the playoffs.

and who exactly has quinn played? he was terrible against the one team we played with a pulse, and his best win is against 5-3 vanderbilt where we scored zero TDs and six total points in the second half. show me all of the skins that QE has on his wall from this season?

beyond that, just look at the tape. arch’s tape dominates quinn’s tape despite arch playing way fewer snaps. QE has had 3-4x as many opportunities as Arch has had to put together a solid film reel, and yet its arch who we see making his reads and hitting his progressions, its arch who we see making plays with his legs, its arch who we see keeping his eyes downfield while moving up in the pocket, and its arch who we see making play after play downfield. what does quinn’s highlight reel look like, besides self sacks, sideways throws, and “jackpot!” level deep balls that land 15 yards beyond receiver? 

Edited November 18 by Derka

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13386]

Turns out, Derka understands the QB position better than Sark. I don’t know why we’ve wasted time sifting through coaches for the past decade when the obvious choice was right here on Surly.

[Derka 6402]

14 minutes ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

Turns out, Derka understands the QB position better than Sark. I don’t know why we’ve wasted time sifting through coaches for the past decade when the obvious choice was right here on Surly.

what exactly have i posted that makes you say this?

[Codaxx 6216]

I always love the deep ball discussions here. What about the throw 1.5 years ago? Ewers has played a lot of football the tape does not lie. He struggles throwing the deep ball. Yes, he will have a game he does it well every once and a while, but that is it. His deep ball is not something the team can rely on. That is the reason why people can remember a deep ball from 1.5 years ago, because they are so infrequent. 

[MrBig 5602]

3 hours ago, Thatguy said:

301 pages, 15,307 posts, and Derka just posted the dumbest post in this thread.

Derka has Derka’d up this thread a few times, but the dumbest post on this thread by far is the one where you were using the most incorrect and incoherent pattern switching to defend Quinn’s field vision by saying nobody was open when it is clear you have no fucking idea how pattern switching actually works.

[troph 25092]

OTF and rod barbers went in depth on the offense vs Arkansas. Reasoned analysis. Issues - Arkansas went 3 high, Texas struggled some last year with it. Sark not calling the same motion and offensive sets. QE struggling, lack of inside run game a big issue, puts more stress on QE and sark. Said sark dialed it up well in the second half, he did simplify the play calling for QE to 2 reads and a check down. Bond curl route and check down to Juan Davis for the first were both highlighted and discussed. So was the pylon throw and moving the pocket on the TD to Golden. Says the biggest issue with 3 high is that defenses can stay disguised for longer. Not sure why sark isn’t doing what worked last year. Empty backfield/reload, empty backfield, 6 OL package, compressed sets, overloaded sets, etc, Neither really had the answer but it’s clear it all comes together - sarks calls, QE’s play, lack of an inside running game and here you go, a talented offense that always seems off. Pretty clear to me that sark’s offense as high flying as it is, relies heavily on the inside run game to set it all up. Gotta run the ball. Need the OL and RBs to perform down the stretch, hopefully that will ease some pressure on the passing game, those play calls and frankly help QE play better.

[BurntOrange&White 41653]

 

Ball should be coming out now to the pylon and it's an easy touchdown as the DB is turned around. Instead Quinn holds the ball entirely too long.

[BabaYaga 15532]

5 minutes ago, troph said:

relies heavily on the inside run game to set it all up. Gotta run the ball.

Which GA was able to completely shut down.  Which atms defense is also very proficient at as well.  What the ags are not good at is tackling in space.  Rewatch the USC game.  They were in the backfield all day.  The USC qb was just able to shrug off tackles and make plays with his legs.  It's going to be a long day if Texas tries to run the ball up the middle on the ag front 4.  This isn't a team you want to get behind the chains with.  3rd and long and they are sending the house every time.  If the line can't pick up the blitz, use misdirection, and make accurate passes in that soft atm underbelly, QE is going to get killed.  

[Texasborn91 1084]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

Ball should be coming out now to the pylon and it's an easy touchdown as the DB is turned around. Instead Quinn holds the ball entirely too long.

Or Moore wide open in the middle but I’m just an out of shape arm chair Qb 

[immamac 44200]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

Ball should be coming out now to the pylon and it's an easy touchdown as the DB is turned around. Instead Quinn holds the ball entirely too long.

Lmao there should be a thread of screenshots like this with a multiple choice of "what happens next?" It would be one of the funniest threads on the site. 

[BabaYaga 15532]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Ball should be coming out now to the pylon and it's an easy touchdown as the DB is turned around. Instead Quinn holds the ball entirely too long.

I was screaming this all game.  He's not passing to where the receiver will be, he passes to where they are.  The ball needs to be out of his hand before the break.