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Idk that Thamel piece seems to be clear. Quinn wants to start his last regular season game at Texas against TAMU. He's gonna try to go and be as good as he can. I think its only fair to let him try, but if we get another Georgia half I think he's done. Sark isn't gonna trot out a clearly injured guy it is coaching malpractice and CDC and the people that matter would definitely be in his ass about it especially if it results in an embarassing loss. That's an unacceptable outcome. 

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

Idk that Thamel piece seems to be clear. Quinn wants to start his last regular season game at Texas against TAMU. He's gonna try to go and be as good as he can. I think its only fair to let him try, but if we get another Georgia half I think he's done. Sark isn't gonna trot out a clearly injured guy it is coaching malpractice and CDC and the people that matter would definitely be in his ass about it especially if it results in an embarassing loss. That's an unacceptable outcome. 

Especially in the biggest must win game of the season. You cannot lose this game because your stubborn and don't want to hurt your QBs feelings

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4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

That would be leopard-changing-spots level stuff.  We are pretty clearly pass to run, not the other way around.

And we were 11 personnel dominant in ‘08 until the RRS where the Irby injury necessitated a change. If aggy presents a 2 high or 3 high look, we should thank them for the 5+ yards and run it again 

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And we were 11 personnel dominant in ‘08 until the RRS where the Irby injury necessitated a change. If aggy presents a 2 high or 3 high look, we should thank them for the 5+ yards and run it again 

The mythical 2/3 high look that fans think is so easy to rush against!

 

Just because it's a look that usually gets rolled into a 2 or 3 doesn't mean it's a prevent play back defense.

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21 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

They hammered them in the run game. Bateman can get too cute. He loves to run stunts. He even ran some 1st and 10 with Auburn backed up inside their 5. Texas needs to take advantage of that when they catch them in the wrong stunt. Would be nice to get some long runs out of the RB position in this game.

The right side of the O-line (Campbell+Williams) was repeatedly beaten by stunts during the Georgia game. There is some persistent miscommunication happening there that opponents with good D-lines can and will exploit.

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His ankle is not going to heal significantly between now and Saturday. If the only word out there that his sprain is mild comes from his camp, it could be that they are playing a little loose with the word "mild." For a one-off situation like this, I would think about shooting his ankle up with Naropin. It wouldn't fix anything, but it might block most of his pain enough to let him move and protect himself better. The problem is that then he might want to keep going on successive weeks, bolstered by reiterations of "the shot."

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1 minute ago, satyanash said:

The right side of the O-line (Campbell+Williams) was repeatedly beaten by stunts during the Georgia game. There is some persistent miscommunication happening there that opponents with good D-lines can and will exploit.

Pretty sure the following are true

1) Georgia's front > A&M's front

2) Schumann/Smart schemes > Bateman/Elko schemes

Not saying it won't be a problem on Saturday but hopefully won't be as much of one.

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19 minutes ago, immamac said:

Idk that Thamel piece seems to be clear. Quinn wants to start his last regular season game at Texas against TAMU. He's gonna try to go and be as good as he can. I think its only fair to let him try, but if we get another Georgia half I think he's done. Sark isn't gonna trot out a clearly injured guy it is coaching malpractice and CDC and the people that matter would definitely be in his ass about it especially if it results in an embarassing loss. That's an unacceptable outcome. 

That's a whole lot of words to say a loss to aggy is a. Unacceptable outcome...

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6 minutes ago, Magus Ossis said:

His ankle is not going to heal significantly between now and Saturday. If the only word out there that his sprain is mild comes from his camp, it could be that they are playing a little loose with the word "mild." For a one-off situation like this, I would think about shooting his ankle up with Naropin. It wouldn't fix anything, but it might block most of his pain enough to let him move and protect himself better. The problem is that then he might want to keep going on successive weeks, bolstered by reiterations of "the shot."

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2 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Pretty sure the following are true

1) Georgia's front > A&M's front

2) Schumann/Smart schemes > Bateman/Elko schemes

Not saying it won't be a problem on Saturday but hopefully won't be as much of one.

Georgia has edges that nobody else has. LBs  running 4.5s. A&M is more like Michigan's front. They are talented and powerful. Texas hasnt really struggled with power rushers. A&M DL is not the sack machine the media makes them out to be (13th in the SEC). They will get some pressure though  and make Quinn navigate the pocket. Biggest advantage for the Texas offense is Helm and the RBs vs the A&M LBs.

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18 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The mythical 2/3 high look that fans think is so easy to rush against!

 

Just because it's a look that usually gets rolled into a 2 or 3 doesn't mean it's a prevent play back defense.

Never said it was easy or prevent. We have done it though. Have we chosen to do it late? Sure. Does it mean we won't/can't do it early? If you say for certain, you're a fool.

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10 minutes ago, oldhorn2 said:

That's a whole lot of words to say a loss to aggy is a. Unacceptable outcome...

I don't think it's unacceptable to have a hard fought rivalry game just not end in your favor. Sometimes crazy shit happens in rivalry games.

It's different to not give your team the best shot because you are trotting out a clearly immobile quarterback when the other QB you have is the opposite extreme regardless of how arch throws, hes shown even in the Georgia game that he can scramble far better than even a healthy Quinn.

That's what would be unacceptable, not just to the fans, but to the organization itself. 

Obviously the gameplan for TAMU should be to blitz Quinn like crazy and collapse the pocket every play because he can't play that kind of game injured, the risk is if he can get throws off or sark schemes for that and carves them up then you get fucked like you did against scar. 

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25 minutes ago, satyanash said:

The right side of the O-line (Campbell+Williams) was repeatedly beaten by stunts during the Georgia game. There is some persistent miscommunication happening there that opponents with good D-lines can and will exploit.

We seemed to clean that up a bit after struggling against Georgia and Vanderbilt. 

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12 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Georgia has edges that nobody else has. LBs  running 4.5s. A&M is more like Michigan's front. They are talented and powerful. Texas hasnt really struggled with power rushers. A&M DL is not the sack machine the media makes them out to be (13th in the SEC). They will get some pressure though  and make Quinn navigate the pocket. Biggest advantage for the Texas offense is Helm and the RBs vs the A&M LBs.

Quoted for truth. I am more worried about our running game vs them. If you watch them they were popping Auburn's talented back early he was just running through the contact. Hopefully we can take advantage of them off the edge because I am not sure there is much hay to be made up the middle. They win a lot of 1v1s in the run game.

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Quoted for truth. I am more worried about our running game vs them. If you watch them they were popping Auburn's talented back early he was just running through the contact. Hopefully we can take advantage of them off the edge because I am not sure there is much hay to be made up the middle. They win a lot of 1v1s in the run game.

Same with the SoCar game. Lot of pressure on the OL in this game, because they do not have  a QB or RB that can mask their mistakes. This is the worry. Texas struggles on 1st down allowing Bateman and Elko to dial up their excotic blitzes.

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56 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

That would be leopard-changing-spots level stuff.  We are pretty clearly pass to run, not the other way around.

We didn’t seem to have much trouble running on Kentucky. First time all season I saw us get 7-9 yards pretty consistently when they were dropping safeties 

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1 minute ago, Pig Bellmont said:

We didn’t seem to have much trouble running on Kentucky. First time all season I saw us get 7-9 yards pretty consistently when they were dropping safeties 

Texas was getting 7-9 yards when they were not dropping safeties. Just look at the 4Q.. Not sure that will translate perfectly, A&M at home playing for an SEC Champ birth will have them little more motivated than Kentucky

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13 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Same with the SoCar game. Lot of pressure on the OL in this game, because they do not have  a QB or RB that can mask their mistakes. This is the worry. Texas struggles on 1st down allowing Bateman and Elko to dial up their excotic blitzes.

One thing that could help Quinn is even when we don't have a successful 2nd down get back up to the line and get set. Don't allow A&M to sub in a rush package. Their early down packages are pretty shitty at getting after the QB. Also if they do sub in their rush package and we get a 1st don't allow them to sub OUT and run on them.

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7 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Texas was getting 7-9 yards when they were not dropping safeties. Just look at the 4Q.. Not sure that will translate perfectly, A&M at home playing for an SEC Champ birth will have them little more motivated than Kentucky

I think our offensive game plan is going to look a lot like the Michigan game. Run them side to side to wear them out. And, if Bond is healthy, I have confidence we can consistently beat man coverage in the passing game so long as we pick up the blitzes. 

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I think our offensive game plan is going to look a lot like the Michigan game. Run them side to side to wear them out. And, if Bond is healthy, I have confidence we can consistently beat man coverage in the passing game so long as we pick up the blitzes. 

The only thing about that plan is A&M has a lot more quality depth on their DL across the board. Where as MIchigan had Grant/Graham pretty much. 

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If Quinn's ankle is truly a concern, then the assumption is Sark will get Arch good reps this week and prepare a gameplan for him. We'll be fine. 
 

Either Ewers starts and finishes the game playing well, or we have a fucking ringer with Manning whose strengths create a serious issue for the Aggie defense. 

 

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On 11/26/2024 at 8:46 AM, Braff Zacklin said:

I don't think anybody here hates Quinn. Well, maybe that one guy that wished injury on him but he got some time off to think about it.

It's your site, you can run it how you please, but restricting which specific criticisms of a player who is obviously struggling and has been struggling for months (i.e., we can now only complain about his deep throws but apparently can't point out flaws in his footwork, mechanics or fear of contact) simply because you agree with the first and disagree with the latter definitely crosses into Agnor territory.

Big difference between actual intelligent analysis, both good and bad, and some loser, anonymous dudes hiding behind a keyboard and calling our starting QB who is leading our team to two outstanding seasons a 'pussy.' I really hope for those poster's sake (and the people in their lives, if there are any) that they are 13 years old. 

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This Quinn situation is so strange to me.  By all accounts and evidence, Sark runs a professional meritocracy with a focus on procedures and culture.  I'm trying to wrap my head around what this would look like for any other functional title contender.  If your starter is injured/hobbled, and you have a high profile backup with starter and game experience, this is a no-brainer.  You sit the injured guy and play the next man up.  No controversy, no rumors, just business as usual. 

 

I have to wonder what kind of crap is going on behind the scenes to where this isn't cut and dry.  When Quinn was clearly hobbled in the UK game, that was the time to sit him and play the backup.  To what degree is Sark so beholden to Quinn that he can't make the obvious move there?  Not even wading into the whole Quinn vs. Arch thing that has occupied so many pages on this thread, the guy was clearly injured.  That was the time to play the backup.  That's why you have one.  Because he didn't, though, now we have to wonder if Arch is airmailing the ball in practice so bad that Sark is afraid to play him.  It's either that or the Ewers family has compromising photo evidence of Sark. 

 

Make it make sense.

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This Quinn situation is so strange to me.  By all accounts and evidence, Sark runs a professional meritocracy with a focus on procedures and culture.  I'm trying to wrap my head around what this would look like for any other functional title contender.  If your starter is injured/hobbled, and you have a high profile backup with starter and game experience, this is a no-brainer.  You sit the injured guy and play the next man up.  No controversy, no rumors, just business as usual. 

 

I have to wonder what kind of crap is going on behind the scenes to where this isn't cut and dry.  When Quinn was clearly hobbled in the UK game, that was the time to sit him and play the backup.  To what degree is Sark so beholden to Quinn that he can't make the obvious move there?  Not even wading into the whole Quinn vs. Arch thing that has occupied so many pages on this thread, the guy was clearly injured.  That was the time to play the backup.  That's why you have one.  Because he didn't, though, now we have to wonder if Arch is airmailing the ball in practice so bad that Sark is afraid to play him.  It's either that or the Ewers family has compromising photo evidence of Sark. 

 

Make it make sense.

I think it was a combination of two things:

1) Sark thought we would win if we didn't make mistakes and he trusted Quinn to limit those more than Arch

2) Sark was sending a message to Quinn about playing through minor injuries. That's why he called it "just football". 

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1 minute ago, kevwun said:

Also, that plan would have worked fine if the running backs didn't decide to fumble every other play in the 3rd quarter.

Something was weird on Saturday for how many fumbles both teams had in perfectly dry and not hot or humid conditions 

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42 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

If Quinn's ankle is truly a concern, then the assumption is Sark will get Arch good reps this week and prepare a gameplan for him. We'll be fine. 
 

Either Ewers starts and finishes the game playing well, or we have a fucking ringer with Manning whose strengths create a serious issue for the Aggie defense. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Darth Tron said:

This Quinn situation is so strange to me.  By all accounts and evidence, Sark runs a professional meritocracy with a focus on procedures and culture.  I'm trying to wrap my head around what this would look like for any other functional title contender.  If your starter is injured/hobbled, and you have a high profile backup with starter and game experience, this is a no-brainer.  You sit the injured guy and play the next man up.  No controversy, no rumors, just business as usual. 

Just to add to what a couple of other folks have already said -- we don't know if Sark plans to start Quinn.  It's in the team's best interrest to create uncertainty.

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7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Just to add to what a couple of other folks have already said -- we don't know if Sark plans to start Quinn.  It's in the team's best interrest to create uncertainty.

I'm not sure it matters. Elko been working on this gameplan for weeks. I am pretty sure they looked like hot garbage for a half last week because they were working on us. We are about to see triple reverses. Fumblerooskies. RB passes. They are going to empty the cupboard on us this week.

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