QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Dark Horse 2,400]

18 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Quinn did not lose this game, but he failed to make plays to critical moments in this game. That has fans frustrated. At some point they want to see Quinn win a game and make plays in big moments. I just think Quinn is Dak or Cousins. Good enough QBs to put up stats and play, but not guys you trust to make plays in critical moments.

This is where I’m at. I just hope we can score outside the red zone enough to make a decent run the playoffs. 
 

The cake is baked at this point. 

[hobbes2702 13,277]

Just now, StassneyHorn said:

Your ability to follow me around and quote me ten seconds after my first post says plenty of your mental health.

Sunday morning coffee and interwebz.
 

I’ve quoted you in one thread probably ever on this website. Your inability to simply admit when you’re hyperbolic says you have an affinity for being pegged publicly. Not sure if that’s a mental health issue or a kink. Are you @NowThis

[Nivek 17,289]

34 minutes ago, ATLLonghorn said:

Just because I saw some argument in this thread about this play, the ball placement here is bad. He's got to throw this to the outside. 

How can anyone blame Quinn on this one?  74 takes himself out of position, Majors snaps the ball as Georgia's players have forward momentum (there were about 10 seconds left), and the receiver is interfered with you can see the arm wrapped around him while the ball is in the air.    0 isn't even looking for the ball and Helm is getting hugged downfield right next to the official.    

 

[Levi 2,638]

3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

It’s an atrocious throw. There’s no reason to discuss further. It was intercepted because it’s a horrible throw.

It was a poor throw but your acting like Bond had no chance to catch the ball. The throw could have been a lot worse than it already was. I’m not sticking up for Ewers and saying it was all on Bond. I know it’s hard for this thread comprehend, but multiple things can be true on a single play and this is one of those imo. 

[hobbes2702 13,277]

Just now, Levi said:

It was a poor throw but your acting like Bond had no chance to catch the ball. The throw could have been a lot worse than it already was. I’m not sticking up for Ewers and saying it was all on Bond. I know it’s hard for this thread comprehend, but multiple things can be true on a single play and this is one of those imo. 

The throw couldn’t really have been worse at all. That’s the only place you can miss and it be intercepted. He could miss the same 5 yards in the opposite direction and it hits ground. I’ve literally said he could have caught it. But that really doesn’t matter at all. It’s a horrible throw and that’s why it was intercepted. There’s no point in discussing whether it could have been caught because it should have been routine.
Putting any blame on bond is asking for him to make a fantastic play because Ewers couldn’t make a basic one. That’s my only point.

[ATLLonghorn 1,069]

1 minute ago, Levi said:

It was a poor throw but your acting like Bond had no chance to catch the ball. The throw could have been a lot worse than it already was. I’m not sticking up for Ewers and saying it was all on Bond. I know it’s hard for this thread comprehend, but multiple things can be true on a single play and this is one of those imo. 

It's a technically catchable ball, but as a receiver you aren't expecting the ball to your inside shoulder on an out route and he never knew where the ball was. He could have caught it, yes, but the responsibility of the quarterback is to put the ball in the best spot for his guy to catch it and Ewers doesn't.

[StassneyHorn 6,739]

2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Sunday morning coffee and interwebz.
 

I’ve quoted you in one thread probably ever on this website. Your inability to simply admit when you’re hyperbolic says you have an affinity for being pegged publicly. Not sure if that’s a mental health issue or a kink. Are you @NowThis

It’s not hyperbolic at all to say QE is the third best QB this school has had. Naming some QBs that have some really neat-o cardboard cutouts in Belmont who existed before the forward pass, civil rights, and toe-punching kickers isn’t a flex on me not understanding the history of our program.

[Gene Parmesan 4,057]

1 hour ago, Stunns38 said:

Most NFL GMs always fall in love with arm strength and measurables. See Anthony Richardson and the legendary bust from LSU. He will get drafted but he will probably mentally burn out quickly or be a long term backup. The NFL won’t coddle him like Sark and I don’t think he’s physically changed much in 4 years.

Quinn doesn’t have arm strength though 

[hobbes2702 13,277]

Just now, StassneyHorn said:

It’s not hyperbolic at all to say QE is the third best QB this school has had. Naming some QBs that have some really neat-o cardboard cutouts in Belmont who existed before the forward pass, civil rights, and toe-punching kickers isn’t a flex on me not understanding the history of our program.

I’m not sure you know what hyperbolic means.

Maybe you should start drinking?

[Hank Kingsley 21,484]

4 minutes ago, Nivek said:

How can anyone blame Quinn on this one?  74 takes himself out of position, Majors snaps the ball as Georgia's players have forward momentum (there were about 10 seconds left), and the receiver is interfered with you can see the arm wrapped around him while the ball is in the air.    0 isn't even looking for the ball and Helm is getting hugged downfield right next to the official.    

 

It's a bad throw. Poor mechanics due to anticipating a hit, short arms it, ball comes out off target and without enough zip. 

We aren't playing the Texas Techs of the world anymore. 

3 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

It’s not hyperbolic at all to say QE is the third best QB this school has had. Naming some QBs that have some really neat-o cardboard cutouts in Belmont who existed before the forward pass, civil rights, and toe-punching kickers isn’t a flex on me not understanding the history of our program.

It's not, but that's more of an indictment on Texas QBs over the years. 

 

[StassneyHorn 6,739]

You’ve retreated again. Slap a band aid on the gash.

[Red Five 41,407]

5 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

It’s not hyperbolic at all to say QE is the third best QB this school has had.

We have three QBs with their numbers retired. And no, you don't get to disqualify an NFL Hall of Famer just because you didn't get to watch him play.

[StassneyHorn 6,739]

Yes I do. The NFL hall of fame is about NFL accomplishments.

Edited Sunday at 04:43 PM by StassneyHorn

[immamac 43,988]

1 minute ago, StassneyHorn said:

Yes I do. 

No you don't. Stop being a troll. 

[TOR 5,988]

Quinn cost himself a lot of coin last night.  

[The_Great_Hornsby 3,585]

I actually think Ewers is slightly better than Case McCoy, but he is definitely worse than Ash. And second season Elingher is better than this version of Ewers. Ewers isnt even the third best QB for Texas since 2000 lol. 

1 minute ago, TOR said:

Quinn cost himself a lot of coin last night.  

He has been doing that a lot this year

[David Dennison 19,314]

2 minutes ago, TOR said:

Quinn cost himself a lot of coin last night.  

He can make up some of it at his pro day.

[StassneyHorn 6,739]

6 minutes ago, immamac said:

No you don't. Stop being a troll. 

Yes I do. You aren’t finding his name near any records at Texas and his NFL accomplishments are just that, NFL. That’s not trolling. The NFL was literally a part time job for most of its history with carpenters and plumbers. Nobody had offseason conditioning or weightlifting programs until the 70s

Edited Sunday at 04:50 PM by StassneyHorn

[Hank Kingsley 21,484]

3 minutes ago, TOR said:

Quinn cost himself a lot of coin last night.  

Last night was an opportunity to get some back. He already lost most of the coin. 

 

[BurntEyes 6,185]

30 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

The offense isn't one man. Asking our oline to run block is also reasonable. But they can't do it against speed like Georgia. 

Asking one man to not throw interception in the red zone is reasonable. Our oline didn't make the poor throw. A millionaire NIL 3 year starter QB did.

Also, asking for a QB who can evade a sack and scramble for a few yards occasionally is also reasonable.

Wanting a QB who has pocket awareness and can read a blitz is also reasonable.

Wanting a QB who can move the pocket and hit an open WR is also reasonable.

Edited Sunday at 04:51 PM by BurntEyes

[Levi 2,638]

2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

The throw couldn’t really have been worse at all. That’s the only place you can miss and it be intercepted. He could miss the same 5 yards in the opposite direction and it hits ground. I’ve literally said he could have caught it. But that really doesn’t matter at all. It’s a horrible throw and that’s why it was intercepted. There’s no point in discussing whether it could have been caught because it should have been routine.
Putting any blame on bond is asking for him to make a fantastic play because Ewers couldn’t make a basic one. That’s my only point.

Ah yes, an opposite hash throw across the field with the left side screaming down on you as the ball leaves your hand is a basic one. And asking a receiver to make a play on a ball that hit his right shoulder pad is a fantastic one. This whole play was a shit sandwich from start to finish and I’m not going to put the blame on one guy. Although I do think, like I said in my original post about the play, a guy like Golden probably catches that ball. 

7 minutes ago, ATLLonghorn said:

It's a technically catchable ball, but as a receiver you aren't expecting the ball to your inside shoulder on an out route and he never knew where the ball was. He could have caught it, yes, but the responsibility of the quarterback is to put the ball in the best spot for his guy to catch it and Ewers doesn't.

I get you and have agreed to such. The ball placement was bad and as a receiver breaking out it’s a tough play. If you’re saying that he could have caught it then it is a catchable ball. As a receiver that is better than nothing. We’ve seen this receiving core make tougher catchers on worse throws from Ewers all season. 

[BurntEyes 6,185]

51 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Given QBs in the NFL, his ceiling his career starter as a game manager. But his most likely trajectory is long term backup. But it isn't physical talent that holds him back. It is all mentality. 

His technique and throwing motion, lack of mobility, lack of speed, lack of evasiveness, and fragile nature is all physical. (Well the fragile nature is both)

[The Original CaliHorn 71]

5 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Asking one man to not throw interception in the red zone is reasonable. Our oline didn't make the poor throw. A millionaire NIL 3 year starter QB did.

Also, asking for a QB who can evade a sack and scramble for a few yards occasionally is also reasonable.

Wanting a QB who has pocket awareness and can read a blitz is also reasonable.

Wanting a QB who can move the pocket and hit an open WR is also reasonable.

And we have that individual on the sideline awaiting his opportunity. 

[Dark Horse 2,400]

If he has arm strength he doesn’t use it. He did not rip a single ball, maybe hasn’t since Michigan. Everything floats. 

[89Horn 1,734]

13 minutes ago, Red Five said:

We have three QBs with their numbers retired. And no, you don't get to disqualify an NFL Hall of Famer just because you didn't get to watch him play.

Yeah, Texas football history didn’t begin in 2005.  We have past QBs that probably think, man, if only I had the tools around me that Quinn has.

[CurlyDumps 4,599]

Can anyone provide breakdown of that clutch throw Ewers made at the end of regulation or overtime?

[Jkwellborn 6,972]

If he has arm strength he doesn’t use it. He did not rip a single ball, maybe hasn’t since Michigan. Everything floats. 

He threw a couple of absolute darts against aggy.

[nineliveslost 2,954]

18 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

He can make up some of it at his pro day.

Jerry Jones will be licking his chops 

[BurntOrange&White 41,343]

2 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

He threw a couple of absolute darts against aggy.

He doesn’t use his arm strength to create windows like good QBs does. It’s partially because his mechanics but it’s mainly because he doesn’t anticipate at all. 

[BurntEyes 6,185]

1 minute ago, nineliveslost said:

Jerry Jones will be licking his chops 

Jerry is gonna take the INT monkey Beck mostly because he's a die hard Pig deep at heart. 

[closetohumping 17,701]

2/10 for 5 yards in red zone.   With a dropped int

[hobbes2702 13,277]

5 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Jerry is gonna take the INT monkey Beck mostly because he's a die hard Pig deep at heart. 

He’s gonna take Deion to coach and Shadeur to play QB.

[Vic Mackey 47,740]

2/10 for 5 yards in red zone.   With a dropped int

If Quinn was worth a shit at all in the RedZone, we easily win yesterday and we play Michigan for the national championship last year. If your QB is ass in the RedZone, that's a huge liability.

A guy like Arch, who you have to respect running, is such a better weapon in the RedZone. He had to come in and clean up Quinn's garbage against aggy.

[Minute Bull 354]

Quinn is the worst starting player on this offense.  Seems like a great guy and I wish it weren’t true but it is.

The only way UT can compete for the NC is to replace him with Arch, who adds a running dimension as opposed to statue Quinn.  2 weeks to get him ready.

Will Sark have the balls to do what he must?  I doubt it.  

[Gandalfish 378]

On 11/4/2024 at 2:02 PM, Gandalfish said:

I suggest a Five Point Plan to settle this disagreement once and for all.

1. We watch the Texas vs. Florida game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

2. We watch the Texas vs. Arkansas game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

3. We watch the Texas vs. Kentucky game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

4. We watch the Texas vs. Aggy game. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

5. We watch the next Texas game of the season (Bowl game, SEC Championship, or First round playoff). Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss -30 if this is a bowl game +10 if it's the SEC championship.

 

Then we find the average of these five sums. This gives us his measure on the ULTIMATE SCALE OF PUSSYTUDE/BOSSNESS (working title...in process)

 

0-65.0 : THE ULTIMATE PUSSY : Sorry Quinn, you are officially and forever a Huge Pussy

65-75 : PRETTY MUCH A PUSSY : Quinn, you had so much potential but you ended up playing like a Pussy for us. There might be hope for you in the future though.

75-85 : KIND OF A PUSSY : Quinn, we would have had a real shot this season if you didn't play like a pussy one too many times. Good luck in the NFL though bro.

85-95 : MOST LIKELY NOT A PUSSY : Quinn did enough to win, but could he have done more? (I admit if we end up here the argument will go on. I'll take my chances)

95-100 : DEFINITELY NOT A PUSSY : You can say what you want about Quinn Ewers, but he ain't no pussy.

100+ : DUDE IS A BOSS : It turns out you guys have just been haters the whole time. Potential Longhorn Legend.

 

(This is all completely arbitrary and not based on any kind of science or intelligence)

May the testes be with you, Quinn.

 

1. Texas 49-17 vs. Florida. Score = 100.0 (QBR 90.0 +10 for win)

2. Texas 20-10 vs. Arkansas Score = 72.0 (QBR 62.0 +10 for win)

3. Texas 31-14 vs. Kentucky Score = 77.6 (QBR 67.6 +10 for win)

4. Texas 17-7 vs. Aggy Score = 89.1 (QBR 79.1 +10 for win)

5. Georgia 22-19 vs. Texas Score = 70.6 (QBR 70.6 -10 for team loss +10 for this game being the SEC championship)

 

Average = 81.9 --> KIND OF A PUSSY : "Quinn, we would have had a real shot this season if you didn't play like a pussy one too many times. Good luck in the NFL though bro."

This actually pretty accurately reflects my feelings right now.

I harbor no personal feelings of ill will to the guy, he is still our QB1, I want him to succeed now and in the future, wherever that takes him.

I do feel extremely disappointed on where he is, given the expectations we were sold on early in his career.

Unfortunately, I think that Longhorn fans will still be arguing about this in twenty years.

 

Edited Tuesday at 04:50 PM by Gandalfish
I forgot to subtract 10 for the loss to Georgia - it didn't change the overall result though.

[Longboard Horn 41,262]

Quinn's problem is he's afraid to get hit and he lobs the ball too lightly.

[MissingInAction 25,424]

59 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

You’ve retreated again. Slap a band aid on the gash.

[StassneyHorn 6,739]

30 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

Can anyone provide breakdown of that clutch throw Ewers made at the end of regulation or overtime?

He had four completions on the final drive in regulation to bring the team in FG range.

[immamac 43,988]

15 minutes ago, Gandalfish said:

1. Texas 49-17 vs. Florida. Score = 100.0 (QBR 90.0 +10 for win)

2. Texas 20-10 vs. Arkansas Score = 72.0 (QBR 62.0 +10 for win)

3. Texas 31-14 vs. Kentucky Score = 77.6 (QBR 67.6 +10 for win)

4. Texas 17-7 vs. Aggy Score = 89.1 (QBR 79.1 +10 for win)

4. Georgia 22-19 vs. Texas Score = 80.6 (QBR 70.6 +10 for this game being the SEC championship)

 

Average = 83.9 --> KIND OF A PUSSY : "Quinn, we would have had a real shot this season if you didn't play like a pussy one too many times. Good luck in the NFL though bro."

This actually pretty accurately reflects my feelings right now.

I harbor no personal feelings of ill will to the guy, he is still our QB1, I want him to succeed now and in the future, wherever that takes him.

I do feel extremely disappointed on where he is, given the expectations we were sold on early in his career.

Unfortunately, I think that Longhorn fans will still be arguing about this in twenty years.

 

I believe we have a new QB Ranking system for surly. This is so fucking spot on. Lol

[BurntEyes 6,185]

23 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

He’s gonna take Deion to coach and Shadeur to play QB.

Shadeur as the starter, Beck for backup as second pic, Deion as Head and QB coach. It will work out fantastic.

[ATLLonghorn 1,069]

1 hour ago, ATLLonghorn said:

Just because I saw some argument in this thread about this play, the ball placement here is bad. He's got to throw this to the outside. 

So this is a different formation, but it's basically the same route by Wingo. Ewers puts the ball where it should go...and Wingo drops it. This just explains why the first throw was so bad.

[MrBig 5,573]

8 minutes ago, immamac said:

I believe we have a new QB Ranking system for surly. This is so fucking spot on. Lol

Call it the Surly Pussy Performance Ranking (PPR) it’s our version of PFF Rankings. 

[jetsfan76 755]

At least QE's last game will be at home. Silver linings?

[Irish Wrist Watch 1,465]

2 hours ago, ATLLonghorn said:

Just because I saw some argument in this thread about this play, the ball placement here is bad. He's got to throw this to the outside. 

Someone suggested Bond couldn't cut and that may well be the case, because he shoulda cut into the ball, caught it in his craw and been off to the races down the sideline before that defender had time to react. Instead he throws his hands at the ball - combined with all the other drops, a good sign the receivers aren't getting the reps they need in practice or in the games. If they're dropping the ball in practice maybe they need to be sitting on the sidelines during the game. Looks like a lack of discipline, or laziness or both, although if he was hurt, I guess we should cut him some slack, but if he was hurt, shouldn't someone have told Sark. We need to tighten up our game. Or maybe it was a lack of killer instinct on Bond's part. We've been spoiled. We've been winning even when we aren't really trying. That goes back to Sark's "killer instinct," or lack thereof. We've got "Some gas, but keep a foot on the brake pedal just in case..." You know, like how teenage girls drive for the first year or so. (If anyone has any stories, you must share.)

[troph 24,994]

QE didn’t lose this game but he didn’t do what was necessary to win it and that’s what’s necessary. When sark’s teams can’t run it’s always trouble. Plus a lot of mental mistakes every where. Two missed FGs come on!? Burke lined up offsides, which lead to the second half TD. what the fuck? 3 celebrating not blocking for a pick six, what the fuck. The list goes on. And that’s before bad luck with fumbles GA was able to recover with horns everywhere. 

[Josef Pwag 1,809]

1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Wanting a QB who has pocket awareness and can read a blitz is also reasonable.

 

This stands out to me the most. Obvious blitzes (and defensive formations suggesting a blitz) shouldn't absolutely flummox a 3-year starter who has been working with someone like Sark the entire time. He has had continuity with his coaches and his system. This shouldn't be happening. 

[Dahobbs 18,056]

41 minutes ago, Longboard Horn said:

Quinn's problem is he's afraid to get hit and he lobs the ball too lightly.

His one hard throw was dropped. 

[Dahobbs 18,056]

1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Asking one man to not throw interception in the red zone is reasonable. Our oline didn't make the poor throw. A millionaire NIL 3 year starter QB did.

Also, asking for a QB who can evade a sack and scramble for a few yards occasionally is also reasonable.

Wanting a QB who has pocket awareness and can read a blitz is also reasonable.

Wanting a QB who can move the pocket and hit an open WR is also reasonable.

Again, you're putting everything on Quinn. He isn't a game changer. But he was good enough for us to win. Other parts of the team have to step up too. It's so weird to bash the best part of our offense yesterday. I'm sorry he isn't what you want. But your list, a least for yesterday, is largely bullshit. He did evade sacks and make plays. He did throw deep. He did burn the blitz. We couldn't execute in the redzone because our offense simply isn't built for it, at least against Georgia. That's just the truth. It ain't all Quinn my man. Get over it. 

Edited Sunday at 06:15 PM by Dahobbs

[orthohorn 6]

20 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

He is who he is at this point. A 30+ start QB shouldn’t require perfect conditions to excel.

He wasn’t awful yesterday but it’s not unreasonable to expect more from your third year starter. 

Sark has to scheme everything up for him right now. He isn’t evaluating those around him or making the off schedule plays. Yes the OL could be better or the receivers could be better or a specific play call or two could be better but when a dude is the starting QB at Texas for 3 years he should be able to cover up stuff and right some wrongs. That isn’t asking for too much.

This exactly

He doesn't have a discernible skill set beyond quick slants and horizontal passing which is hard to scheme around. Rarely gives more than in expected of him which sticks out like a sore thumb on a team full of leaders and absolute dogs trying to win a championship.

[Tex-19 2,942]

QE is pretty low down the list to blame for this loss imo. Was he perfect? No. But he didn't get help from anyone. Multiple drops that would have been first downs (one popping up for an INT). No run game. Penalties everywhere killing drives. Missed FGs. None of that is on him.

His biggest issue yesterday, and idk how much of this is on playcalling, was the disappearing act every time we got in/near the red zone. I mean, how many times did we get to their 30? Like 6 or 7? And turned those into 12 total points including OT. The most painful being 1st down from the 14 at the end of regulation with plenty of time and a TD winning the game.