QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

[Longhornlove 5097]

 

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Carson Beck would be ranked 6th if healthy.

Would you take Beck over Quinn because I sure as fuck wouldn't. Quinn has outplayed that alien looking mother fucker twice.

[Sawbonz 27958]

10 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-football/ranking-playoff-qbs/

 

 

Not good chief....


1. Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
2. Kevin Jennings, SMU
3. Cade Klubnik, Clemson
4. Will Howard, Ohio St
5. Riley Leonard, ND
6. Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
7. Drew Allar, Penn St
8. Nic Iamaleava, Tenn
9. Quinn Ewers, Texas
10. Maddux Madsen, Boise St
11. Sam Leavitt, Arizona St
12. Gunnar Stockton, Georgia


So Quinn is ranked in the bottom 4 if playoff QBs as a 3 year starter and 1.000 overall prospect alongside Gunnar Stockton(making his 1st start), Sam Leavitt(Redshirt Freshmen, 1st year starting), and Maddux Madsen(RS Sophomore, 1st year as full time starter)

 I way Will Howard is 4 on that list. He is guaranteed to have a major fuckup at a critical moment 

[BurntOrange&White 41341]

Just now, Sawbonz said:

 I way Will Howard is 4 on that list. He is guaranteed to have a major fuckup at a critical moment 

Have you seen Quinn?

[tbone_ 14362]

CFP QBs by QBR

1 Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
2 Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
3 Will Howard, Ohio St
4 Drew Allar, Penn St
5 Sam Leavitt, Arizona St
6 Riley Leonard, ND
7 Cade Klubnik, Clemson
8 Kevin Jennings, SMU
9 Maddux Madsen, Boise St
10 Quinn Ewers, Texas
11 Nico Iamaleava, Tenn
12 Gunnar Stockton, Georgia*

*Carson Beck would be ranked 6th if healthy.
 
So by QBR Quinn and Nico are the two worst QBs outside of the guy making his first start. 
 

Where would sheduer sanders be on this list?

[BurntOrange&White 41341]

CFP QBs Ranked by PFF Grade

 

1  Kurtis Rourke, Indiana - 91.7
2 Dillon Gabriel, Oregon - 90.4
3 Sam Leavitt, Arizona St - 88.9
4 Cade Klubnik, Clemson - 88.1
5 Riley Leonard, ND - 87.6
6 Drew Allar, Penn St - 86
7 Kevin Jennings, SMU - 84.7
8 Will Howard, Ohio St - 82.4
9 Nico Iamaleava, Tenn - 78
10 Maddux Madsen, Boise St - 76.7
11 Quinn Ewers, Texas - 72.2
12 Gunnar Stockton, Georgia*

 

* Doesn't meet minimum snap requirement
Beck(80.2) would be ranked right behind Will Howard on PFF.

Edited Tuesday at 04:06 PM by BurntOrange&White

[BurntOrange&White 41341]

6 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Where would sheduer sanders be on this list?

Right behind Klubnik  and for the PFF ranking he'd be right behind Rourke.

Edited Tuesday at 04:07 PM by BurntOrange&White

[Longhornlove 5097]

6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

CFP QBs Ranked by PFF Grade

 

1  Kurtis Rourke, Indiana - 91.7
2 Dillon Gabriel, Oregon - 90.4
3 Sam Leavitt, Arizona St - 88.9
4 Cade Klubnik, Clemson - 88.1
5 Riley Leonard, ND - 87.6
6 Drew Allar, Penn St - 86
7 Kevin Jennings, SMU - 84.7
8 Will Howard, Ohio St - 82.4
9 Nico Iamaleava, Tenn - 78
10 Maddux Madsen, Boise St - 76.7
11 Quinn Ewers, Texas - 72.2
12 Gunnar Stockton, Georgia*

 

* Doesn't meet minimum snap requirement

Quinns PFF grade against the vaunted Georgia Defense, 87. Beck was in the 30s.

[BurntOrange&White 41341]

Just now, Longhornlove said:

Quinns PFF grade against the vaunted Georgia Defense, 87. Beck was in the 30s.

Cool, we must have won the game then!

[Valmy77 13550]

I think that is a little low but it does demonstrate the point: Quinn is only pretty good.

2,700 yards passing 25 TDs and 9 Ints on 352 attempts. That is fine. Decent. Top 30 QB in the country.

But compared to his ranking out of High School? Compared to his expectations for this year? Disappointing.

[CoTex 1176]

Beck's qbr for the CCG was 59.5

Quinn's was 70.6

Honest question, does that mean our QB played better than theirs and we still lost?  

 

[markstanco 12745]

 

[Longhornlove 5097]

11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Cool, we must have won the game then!

Just pointing out how you use empirical evidence to support your narrative and then like I expected you disregard the same evidence when it doesn't support your narrative.

Edited Tuesday at 04:23 PM by Longhornlove

[Longhornlove 5097]

1 minute ago, markstanco said:

 

Holy fuck, that made my day, maybe week.

[BurntOrange&White 41341]

2 minutes ago, markstanco said:

 

YESSIR! 

[lilMAC25 3950]

Staying home with my sick 5 yr old son and rewatched the Kentucky game.

 

 

Quinn… has been struggling for weeks. He’s not playing well

[Longhornlove 5097]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

YESSIR! 

You know they are making fun of you right?

1 minute ago, lilMAC25 said:

Staying home with my sick 5 yr old son and rewatched the Kentucky game.

 

 

Quinn… has been struggling for weeks. He’s not playing well

True, been playing hurt most of the year too.

[immamac 43988]

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

You know they are making fun of you right?

That's why it's awesome. 

[Longhornlove 5097]

Just now, immamac said:

That's why it's awesome. 

LMAO, I'm just making sure he knows they are making fun of him.

[BurntOrange&White 41341]

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

You know they are making fun of you right?

You know you can read that graph as a joke and not be a bigger pussy than Quinn, right? I think it's hilarious that it got posted on MBG. The whole post was a joke and you're worked up about it like Quinn is mounted on top of you sending your heels to Jesus. 

[closetohumping 17700]

3 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

You know they are making fun of you right?

True, been playing hurt most of the year too.

Agree.  I think he's hurt for sure, but he hasn't been great, can we admit that?

[Longhornlove 5097]

1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

Agree.  I think he's hurt for sure, but he hasn't been great, can we admit that?

Sure, he hasn't been great, no problem admitting that.

[Red Five 41403]

I think that is a little low but it does demonstrate the point: Quinn is only pretty good.
2,700 yards passing 25 TDs and 9 Ints on 352 attempts. That is fine. Decent. Top 30 QB in the country.
But compared to his ranking out of High School? Compared to his expectations for this year? Disappointing.

If he had been David Ash coming out of high school, we’d all be content with his play, but also looking forward to the upgrade coming next year (and also probably pretty confused as to why it didn’t happen this year). Sucks for Quinn that those expectations were there….. but they were. We were thinking Trevor Lawrence and that didn’t exactly happen.

[Gene Parmesan 4057]

5 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

You know they are making fun of you right?

True, been playing hurt most of the year too.

Been playing hurt most of his career.  He's perpetually hurt, it is who he is, there is no need to qualify it anymore.

[bad_teammate 13443]

Story isn't fully written yet and the long-term view on Quinn will be based entirely on how this playoff concludes.

Lead us to a national championship, even with mediocre play? Gritty legend.
Beat Clemson and ASU and lose a heart-breaker in the semis? Thanks for your time, Quinn, and best of luck in the NFL or your new team when you transfer.
Flame out hard and lose in the First Round? Get out of town as fast as you can.

That was how it was before these guys were richer than the majority of the fans. It's not going to soften up anytime soon.

[Longhornlove 5097]

1 minute ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Been playing hurt most of his career.  He's perpetually hurt, it is who he is, there is no need to qualify it anymore.

[BurntOrange&White 41341]

So far Quinn is 1-3 in post season games. 


Alamo Bowl vs Washington L
Big 12 Champ vs Oklahoma St W
CFP Semifinal vs Washington L
SEC Champ vs Georgia L

[lilMAC25 3950]

3 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Story isn't fully written yet and the long-term view on Quinn will be based entirely on how this playoff concludes.

Lead us to a national championship, even with mediocre play? Gritty legend.
Beat Clemson and ASU and lose a heart-breaker in the semis? Thanks for your time, Quinn, and best of luck in the NFL or your new team when you transfer.
Flame out hard and lose in the First Round? Get out of town as fast as you can.

That was how it was before these guys were richer than the majority of the fans. It's not going to soften up anytime soon.

Buckle up, because we are likely to struggle vs Clemson.

 

ETA: it sure would be nice to have a battering ram to rely on at RB. Someone who could turn the 2 yd gain into 4.

Wisner is awesome in his own right, but Baxter is sorely missed.

Edited Tuesday at 04:37 PM by lilMAC25

[Gandalfish 378]

On 12/8/2024 at 11:23 AM, Gandalfish said:

1. Texas 49-17 vs. Florida. Score = 100.0 (QBR 90.0 +10 for win)

2. Texas 20-10 vs. Arkansas Score = 72.0 (QBR 62.0 +10 for win)

3. Texas 31-14 vs. Kentucky Score = 77.6 (QBR 67.6 +10 for win)

4. Texas 17-7 vs. Aggy Score = 89.1 (QBR 79.1 +10 for win)

5. Georgia 22-19 vs. Texas Score = 70.6 (QBR 70.6 -10 for team loss +10 for this game being the SEC championship)

 

Average = 81.9 --> KIND OF A PUSSY : "Quinn, we would have had a real shot this season if you didn't play like a pussy one too many times. Good luck in the NFL though bro."

This actually pretty accurately reflects my feelings right now.

I harbor no personal feelings of ill will to the guy, he is still our QB1, I want him to succeed now and in the future, wherever that takes him.

I do feel extremely disappointed on where he is, given the expectations we were sold on early in his career.

Unfortunately, I think that Longhorn fans will still be arguing about this in twenty years.

 

I've decided to extend this rating system into the playoff.

Here's what Quinn has done so far since I started this highly scientific rating system:

1. Texas 49-17 vs. Florida. Score = 100.0

2. Texas 20-10 vs. Arkansas Score = 72.0

3. Texas 31-14 vs. Kentucky Score = 77.6

4. Texas 17-7 vs. Aggy Score = 89.1

5. Georgia 22-19 vs. Texas Score = 70.6

 

Here is how the playoff games will factor into the rating going forward:

 

6. First Round Game vs. Clemson. Sum Ewers QBR +10 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

7. Quarterfinal Game vs. Arizona State. Sum Ewers QBR +20 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

8. Semifinal Game vs. Oregon, Ohio State or Tennessee. Sum Ewers QBR +30 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

9. Championship Game vs. Some Asshole. Sum Ewers QBR +60 for a team win -10 for a team loss.

 

Here is our scale again, unchanged:

 

0-65.0 : THE ULTIMATE PUSSY : Sorry Quinn, you are officially and forever a Huge Pussy

65-75 : PRETTY MUCH A PUSSY : Quinn, you had so much potential but you ended up playing like a Pussy for us. There might be hope for you in the future though.

75-85 : KIND OF A PUSSY : Quinn, we would have had a real shot this season if you didn't play like a pussy one too many times. Good luck in the NFL though bro.

85-95 : MOST LIKELY NOT A PUSSY : Quinn did enough to win, but could he have done more? (I admit if we end up here the argument will go on. I'll take my chances)

95-100 : DEFINITELY NOT A PUSSY : You can say what you want about Quinn Ewers, but he ain't no pussy.

100+ : DUDE IS A BOSS : It turns out you guys have just been haters the whole time. Potential Longhorn Legend.

 

Quinn is sitting not-so-pretty at an average of 81.9, which is KIND OF A PUSSY. Pretty much the worst he could end up after the playoffs is PRETTY MUCH A PUSSY, which would be a drop of one category.

He could easily get to MOST LIKELY NOT A PUSSY with a few wins and solid performances. To get to DEFINITELY NOT A PUSSY he would probably have to at least make the championship game and play well.

Crunching a few numbers DUDE IS A BOSS is pretty much only achievable if he wins the whole fucking thing and plays out of his mind the whole time.

[Sawbonz 27958]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Have you seen Quinn?

I didn’t say swap them 

[Longhornlove 5097]

43 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So far Quinn is 1-3 in post season games. 


Alamo Bowl vs Washington L
Big 12 Champ vs Oklahoma St W
CFP Semifinal vs Washington L
SEC Champ vs Georgia L

Sure, he is also 117 for 182 with 1497 yards 7 TDs and 3 INTs. That is a 64% completion rate with and average of 374 yards a game. Something tells me there may be an underlying issue resulting in the losses.

Out of those 4 games the one we won, we out rushed our opponent.

18 rushes for 51 yards-2.8 average=L

40 rushes for 198 yards-5.0 average=W

31 rushes for 102 yards - 3.3 average=L

23 rushes for 31 yards-1.1 average =L

 

Big Humans matter, run the football, everything else takes care of itself.

Edited Tuesday at 05:19 PM by Longhornlove

[Brothahorn 10096]

57 minutes ago, markstanco said:

 

How the hell is Major more of a pussy than Simms?

[Longhornlove 5097]

1 minute ago, Brothahorn said:

How the hell is Major more of a pussy than Simms?

I think you are missing the point.

[sidis 9969]

1 hour ago, CoTex said:

Beck's qbr for the CCG was 59.5

Quinn's was 70.6

Honest question, does that mean our QB played better than theirs and we still lost?  

 

no. we won 6-3 when quinnn was playing against beck.

[HtownHorn 15174]

1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

I think that is a little low but it does demonstrate the point: Quinn is only pretty good.

2,700 yards passing 25 TDs and 9 Ints on 352 attempts. That is fine. Decent. Top 30 QB in the country.

But compared to his ranking out of High School? Compared to his expectations for this year? Disappointing.

2023 Quinn > 2024 Quinn

[UTEE97 3834]

1 hour ago, markstanco said:

 

Where does Casey Thompson rank?

[HtownHorn 15174]

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

If he had been David Ash coming out of high school, we’d all be content with his play, but also looking forward to the upgrade coming next year (and also probably pretty confused as to why it didn’t happen this year). Sucks for Quinn that those expectations were there….. but they were. We were thinking Trevor Lawrence and that didn’t exactly happen.

Ash was a better football better than Quinn is turning out to be, Applewhite ruined him. Was starting to throw with anticipation and leading receivers, and he was a much better athlete than Quinn. Ash in this offense and we are much better in the RZ.

[westexhorn 2133]

7 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

2023 Quinn > 2024 Quinn

I do wonder if part of this is due to Worthy/Mitchell vs Bond/Golden

[Longhornlove 5097]

1 minute ago, westexhorn said:

I do wonder if part of this is due to Worthy/Mitchell vs Bond/Golden

Golden is different but has been coming on and is good but he isn't first round. Bond has been bad for a while now. 1st round talent but not production.

[Longhornlove 5097]

Moore having the dropsies isn't helping.

[BERT 4478]

Yall really enjoy repeating yall selves over and over. It’s kind of impressive 

[closetohumping 17700]

CFP QBs by QBR

1 Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
2 Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
3 Will Howard, Ohio St
4 Drew Allar, Penn St
5 Sam Leavitt, Arizona St
6 Riley Leonard, ND
7 Cade Klubnik, Clemson
8 Kevin Jennings, SMU
9 Maddux Madsen, Boise St
10 Quinn Ewers, Texas
11 Nico Iamaleava, Tenn
12 Gunnar Stockton, Georgia*

*Carson Beck would be ranked 6th if healthy.
 
 

[HtownHorn 15174]

1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

CFP QBs by QBR

1 Dillon Gabriel (2), Oregon
2 Kurtis Rourke (3), Indiana
3 Will Howard (6), Ohio St
4 Drew Allar (10), Penn St
5 Sam Leavitt (11), Arizona St
6 Riley Leonard (15), ND
7 Cade Klubnik (16), Clemson
8 Kevin Jennings (24), SMU
9 Maddux Madsen (27), Boise St
10 Quinn Ewers (33), Texas
11 Nico Iamaleava (35), Tenn
12 Gunnar Stockton (NR), Georgia*

*Carson Beck would be ranked 6th if healthy.
 
 

Updated to include wher ethey are ranked with all QBs.

[CoTex 1176]

41 minutes ago, sidis said:

no. we won 6-3 when quinnn was playing against beck.

[chemHORN 1298]

Quinn is who he is.  He is a game manager (ala Joe Flaaco) not a game Changer.  His game is good enough to win us most games, but against elite defenses he really needs a run game to keep the pressure off.  He is slow to read post snap (seems like the game speeds up on him instead of slows down) and if his first read isn't immediately available he often gets sacked against good D's.  He isn't terrible, and he isn't an elite QB that can make plays under adversity to win games. 

[Longhornlove 5097]

9 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

CFP QBs by QBR

1 Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
2 Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
3 Will Howard, Ohio St
4 Drew Allar, Penn St
5 Sam Leavitt, Arizona St
6 Riley Leonard, ND
7 Cade Klubnik, Clemson
8 Kevin Jennings, SMU
9 Maddux Madsen, Boise St
10 Quinn Ewers, Texas
11 Nico Iamaleava, Tenn
12 Gunnar Stockton, Georgia*

*Carson Beck would be ranked 6th if healthy.
 
 

Since wins is the most important thing(to some) rank the quarterbacks by career wins.

[Steamboat1874 4261]

3 minutes ago, chemHORN said:

Quinn is who he is.  He is a game manager (ala Joe Flaaco) not a game Changer.  His game is good enough to win us most games, but against elite defenses he really needs a run game to keep the pressure off.  He is slow to read post snap (seems like the game speeds up on him instead of slows down) and if his first read isn't immediately available he often gets sacked against good D's.  He isn't terrible, and he isn't an elite QB that can make plays under adversity to win games. 

He has also, in the last two seasons, lead us to eleven win seasons, won a conference championship and played for another, and got us into the CFP.

[closetohumping 17700]

6 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Since wins is the most important thing(to some) rank the quarterbacks by career wins.

Career wins? Jamie Moyer has more career wins than bob feller 

Edited Tuesday at 06:22 PM by closetohumping

[sidis 9969]

17 minutes ago, CoTex said:

Huh? You compared Quinn’s qbr and Beck’s qbr and said we lost despite better qb play from quinn compared to beck. The last play of the game for Beck was the last play of the first half. When he went out of the game, Texas was winning 6-3. Not sure what you’re confused by. 

I guess you could argue the overtime handoff but, I mean…

Edited Tuesday at 06:27 PM by sidis

[Red Five 41403]

He has also, in the last two seasons, lead us to eleven win seasons, won a conference championship and played for another, and got us into the CFP.

He was a part of teams that did those things, yes. It is quite evident that we could have done those things with any number of different QBs.

[bad_teammate 13443]

39 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

I do wonder if part of this is due to Worthy/Mitchell vs Bond/Golden

Yeah, it's a pretty significant drop-off.