QB1 Quinn "La Joya" Ewers - The Man The Myth The Mullet

Josef Pwag · 2024-12-11T15:47:00Z

Will Arch be better next year than QE has ever been at Texas? - Yes

Does QE make mistakes that a 3-year starter, who has had the same coaches & system, should not make? - Yes

Is there anything other than a major injury that will convince Sark to play Arch instead of QE? - No

Now lock this f***ing thread.

BurntOrange&White · 2024-12-11T15:48:34Z

7 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I just wonder if that is a 1 wr route. Numbers favor working the trip side. Cb was able to re-route Wingo to the numbers (He tried to get an outside release, surprise Georgia is coached well). Not ton of room there.

Look at these screenshots I took....Wingo is open for a pass that is on a rope.

If this is put on Wingo it's a catch and he we likely looking at 3rd and about 4-6. Instead he lofts to the endzone for no god damn reason.

Edited 10 hours ago by BurntOrange&White

Codaxx · 2024-12-11T15:48:57Z

10 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

You want to see loaded boxes, put Arch in. If they use him more, he is going to have to throw the ball some to lighten that box. I also wouldn't mind a 5 wide empty set draw from Arch. Exactly what Georgia did to us with their backup of course Makuba almost decapitated him.

All this BS is really interesting and all, but Quinn is at his best when teams play off. 1st half of Vandy was a great example. Texas ate them up underneath and in that game. Georgia is bit different animal. They went cover 3 and a lot of 2 man. I would love teams to play a soft cover 4 vs Texas in the playoffs.

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T15:52:12Z

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

JFC, man. Read the words in the post.

I'll spell it out for you, though. The final drive of regulation or OT.

Nah, you have made your position clear, you come in here and dog on a kid because he didn't meet your expectations as a "perfect" recruit. He couldn't win by himself, he needs help just like every other QB. He failed to make a good throw and decision late in that game but if others would have stepped up and not made mistakes, dropped passes, missed kicks earlier in the game, he wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place.

BurntOrange&White · 2024-12-11T15:54:01Z

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

he didn't meet expectations as a "perfect" recruit. He couldn't win by himself, he needs help just like every other QB. He failed to make a good throw and decision late in that game

So true......so true....

Colt would crush it with this amount of talent on the team. But then again when we didn't have a plus running game during games Colt would do it with his legs. We can't ask that of Quinn because he's a pussy statue.

Edited 10 hours ago by BurntOrange&White

NWAustinDude · 2024-12-11T15:56:37Z

x's/o's blah blah blah. The offense lacks tempo, Quinn's plays passively, and this genius offense has stopped scoring TDs. The trajectory of the program is phenomenal but the offense has been constipated for weeks now. Wake up Sark and get in Quinn's face.

Hank Kingsley · 2024-12-11T16:00:40Z

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

Nah, you have made your position clear, you come in here and dog on a kid because he didn't meet your expectations as a "perfect" recruit. He couldn't win by himself, he needs help just like every other QB. He failed to make a good throw and decision late in that game but if others would have stepped up and not made mistakes, dropped passes, missed kicks earlier in the game, he wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place.

I don't expect Quinn to be "perfect" at all. You just make stuff up. Your arguments on here have been more disingenuous than the people that go overboard with criticism.

This is Surly. You want rah-rah bullshit all the time, maybe a 9.95 site is more your speed.

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T16:05:22Z

2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I don't expect Quinn to be "perfect" at all. You just make stuff up. Your arguments on here have been more disingenuous than the people that go overboard with criticism.

This is Surly. You want rah-rah bullshit all the time, maybe a 9.95 site is more your speed.

I'm disingenuous? You say that only because I disagree with you. I'll take the high road and support our HC and QB. Feel free to be a douche, nothing stopping you.

Red Five · 2024-12-11T16:06:24Z

10 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Nah, you have made your position clear, you come in here and dog on a kid because he didn't meet your expectations as a "perfect" recruit. He couldn't win by himself, he needs help just like every other QB. He failed to make a good throw and decision late in that game but if others would have stepped up and not made mistakes, dropped passes, missed kicks earlier in the game, he wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place.

I can't speak for everyone, but I find myself very frustrated that we would be the prohibitive favorites to win a national championship with say Dillon Gabriel or Jaxson Dart level QB play. We're having to scheme around what we have at QB and the result is scoring in the teens. And not in that fun Matt Gaetz way either.

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T16:07:29Z

FYI just because I troll the Quinn Ewers haters doesn't mean I'm not genuine in my opinion.

Codaxx · 2024-12-11T16:07:31Z

11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Look at these screenshots I took....Wingo is open for a pass that is on a rope.

If this is put on Wingo it's a catch and he we likely looking at 3rd and about 4-6. Instead he lofts to the endzone for no god damn reason.

I get that. That is not an easy throw with the Safety coming over the top, especially with an inside release from Wingo. If Wingo cooked him on an outside release I get it. I am pretty sure you would agree that the throw to Golden is much lower degree of difficulty. I am just wondering the progressions here or more to the point is there a progression on this play. I will say I did not expect @Longhornlove to say this was a bad read and you argue that Quinn made the right read. Its like bizarro world

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T16:10:59Z

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I can't speak for everyone, but I find myself very frustrated that we would be the prohibitive favorites to win a national championship with say Dillon Gabriel or Jaxson Dart level QB play. We're having to scheme around what we have at QB and the result is scoring in the teens. And not in that fun Matt Gaetz way either.

We played two very good defenses back to back. I don't foresee any immediate competition that should result in complete ineptitude on offense. We should have blown A&M out barring a continued 3rd quarter calamity of errors.

SubliminalHorn · 2024-12-11T16:35:21Z

23 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

We should have blown A&M out barring a continued 3rd quarter calamity of errors.

Committed by….Quinn

Hookem10 · 2024-12-11T16:37:19Z

50 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Beck threw 3 picks against us in the first game.

I should’ve said 5 pick sixes or throw those 5 deep in their territory like we did against Georgia. I find it hard to believe Oregon has the same defensive players that Georgia have also

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T16:38:12Z

3 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Committed by….Quinn

Excuse me, did Quinn fumble all those balls? No, of course he didn't, please don't join the rest of the village idiots. Is he responsible for the blocked punt too?

Edited 9 hours ago by Longhornlove

SubliminalHorn · 2024-12-11T16:39:13Z

Just now, Longhornlove said:

Excuse me, did Quinn fumble all those balls? No, of course he didn't, please don't join the rest of the village idiots.

lol well yes he did have a fumble and a pick 6. But other than that

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T16:40:55Z

Just now, SubliminalHorn said:

lol well yes he did have a fumble and a pick 6. But other than that

I said calamity of errors, it wasn't just him. He played a part but help stop the madness instead of contributing to it.

SubliminalHorn · 2024-12-11T16:42:51Z

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

I said calamity of errors, it wasn't just him. He played a part but help stop the madness instead of contributing to it.

Well his part was the only reason aggy scored. God stop sucking his dick already

BurntOrange&White · 2024-12-11T16:43:11Z

35 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I get that. That is not an easy throw with the Safety coming over the top, especially with an inside release from Wingo. If Wingo cooked him on an outside release I get it. I am pretty sure you would agree that the throw to Golden is much lower degree of difficulty. I am just wondering the progressions here or more to the point is there a progression on this play. I will say I did not expect @Longhornlove to say this was a bad read and you argue that Quinn made the right read. Its like bizarro world

You’re confusing @Longhornlove with @Thatguywho would never admit Quinn messed up or made a bad play. Quinn is perfect 😇

Dahobbs · 2024-12-11T16:49:07Z

21 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I get that. That is not an easy throw with the Safety coming over the top, especially with an inside release from Wingo. If Wingo cooked him on an outside release I get it. I am pretty sure you would agree that the throw to Golden is much lower degree of difficulty. I am just wondering the progressions here or more to the point is there a progression on this play. I will say I did not expect @Longhornlove to say this was a bad read and you argue that Quinn made the right read. Its like bizarro world

I think Quinn pre-snap decides to go to Wingo because of how the corners are playing, off Bond or Golden up top and up tight against Wingo. If you don't have off coverage up top and the safety has to assist , I think the play is Helm in the seam (but he falls over anyways).

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T16:49:26Z

1 minute ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Well his part was the only reason aggy scored. God stop sucking his dick already

JFC you fucking retard, I just fucking stated he had errors. I have pointed out multiple occasions or agreed that he made mistakes. Stop sucking everyone else's dick and admit he isn't the only one causing issues on offense. Peer offensive line play against, Georgia, running backs with fumble issues. Horrid special teams play and receivers dropping passes, and not running routes as designed. This isn't the QE offense, this is the Texas offense.

BlackCat · 2024-12-11T16:51:06Z

Quinn is a mind fuck. Thats why this thread is so active.

We have a world beater defense, so we automatically say everyone is screwed because we have offensive wizard and QB guru Sark. And to go with his credentials, our donors money whipped a 1.000 rated homegrown #1 overall QB who is in his third season as a starter, has all the pieces around him he needs, and is a heisman contending dr pepper commercial media darling.

Season plays out and half the time all that hype makes sense with his wizard throws and pure arm talent, and half the time he looks like hot hammered shit. Not game to game, not half to half, not quarter to quarter. Play to play. Statistically hes nothing more than solidly above average. Trying hard not to be a spoiled fan because the only reason we have these expectations is because so many have ponied up $$$ and brought us back, but its kind of a bitter pill to swallow that we are falling short of a dominant season due to the offense and the QB.

closetohumping · 2024-12-11T16:58:50Z

I think Quinn has absurd talent but do to injuries and pressure he just hasn’t put it all together. But he’s been serviceable to slightly above average imo

hobbes2702 · 2024-12-11T17:01:43Z

1 hour ago, Longhornlove said:

You want to see loaded boxes, put Arch in. If they use him more, he is going to have to throw the ball some to lighten that box. I also wouldn't mind a 5 wide empty set draw from Arch. Exactly what Georgia did to us with their backup of course Makuba almost decapitated him.

You think teams will stack the box against a guy that’s shown he can beat coverage downfield?

UTEE97 · 2024-12-11T17:03:26Z

10 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

JFC you fucking retard, I just fucking stated he had errors. I have pointed out multiple occasions or agreed that he made mistakes. Stop sucking everyone else's dick and admit he isn't the only one causing issues on offense. Peer offensive line play against, Georgia, running backs with fumble issues. Horrid special teams play and receivers dropping passes, and not running routes as designed. This isn't the QE offense, this is the Texas offense.

Honest question, how are you affiliated with Quinn? I wish the posters who go overboard with their defense of mediocre players would just put out disclaimer so people are not wasting their time arguing with them.

Fico · 2024-12-11T17:09:23Z

6 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

You think teams will stack the box against a guy that’s shown he can beat coverage downfield?

Yes. 100% they (they being a team in the playoff) would do this until he shows he can beat it with any consistency against a real team.

Yev Kassem · 2024-12-11T17:10:26Z

I think @Longhornlove would enjoy watching Quinn fuck his significant other and then make excuses why he came too quickly and disappointed her.

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T17:12:23Z

3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

You think teams will stack the box against a guy that’s shown he can beat coverage downfield?

Yes. Are ULM and Mississippi State your "proof" that he can beat coverage downfield? Who didn't beat those teams downfield would be a better question? You actually thing teams would play soft coverage against Arch when all he has done recently is run the ball? Quinn has thrown the ball pretty well deep the last couple of games. The theory that he can't complete a deep pass has been proven a myth. Doesn't mean he is great at it but odd no one has mentioned that lately huh?

Red Five · 2024-12-11T17:14:21Z

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

The theory that he can't complete a deep pass has been proven a myth.

Are you a bit?

Codaxx · 2024-12-11T17:14:22Z

18 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I think Quinn pre-snap decides to go to Wingo because of how the corners are playing, off Bond or Golden up top and up tight against Wingo. If you don't have off coverage up top and the safety has to assist , I think the play is Helm in the seam (but he falls over anyways).

Helm is done. He is going straight up the hash. I assume with the intent is to occupy his man and the safety. He isnt looking to split the safeties. That allows Golden to the crosser in man underneath.

Hook1997 · 2024-12-11T17:15:57Z

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Look at these screenshots I took....Wingo is open for a pass that is on a rope.

If this is put on Wingo it's a catch and he we likely looking at 3rd and about 4-6. Instead he lofts to the endzone for no god damn reason.

The other one was open too but under thrown. So no that’s not on play calling like some want to say, It is what it is as this point. Need some defensive scores in the playoffs especially vs teams that can stop the dink and dunk and screens.

Edited 8 hours ago by Hook1997

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T17:20:29Z

3 minutes ago, Yev Kassem said:

I think @Longhornlove would enjoy watching Quinn fuck his significant other and then make excuses why he came too quickly and disappointed her.

No I just don't belong to the echo chamber narrative support group. I am the anti-narrative guy. Yin vs Yang. I won't sit here a read how everything is on Quinn. It's people like you that have caused Chris Simms to never return to campus. I'm hoping that shit behavior doesn't happen again but I'm probably too late. Sad thing is Quinn was always a Texas fan and he came home to help us rebuild and what has he got from so many in return? Grief, why because you thought he would be better. I thought he would to but I'm not gonna shit on the kid, I will defend him. I will take the high ground, you do whatever the fuck you want I guess.

Dahobbs · 2024-12-11T17:20:49Z

4 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

The other one was open too but under thrown. So no that’s not on play calling like some want to say, It is what it is as this point. Need some defensive scores in the playoffs especially vs teams that can stop the dink and dunk and screens especially.

Again, Moore is in the wrong spot here. He runs that route correctly and he is much closer to where Quinn threw the ball. The ball is under thrown, but it is also a route running error.

hobbes2702 · 2024-12-11T17:22:37Z

12 minutes ago, Fico said:

Yes. 100% they (they being a team in the playoff) would do this until he shows he can beat it with any consistency against a real team.

Bold choice for sure. Acting like Arch is Tebow is certainly a choice

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T17:23:06Z

8 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Are you a bit?

Sometimes, depends who I'm responding to.

BurntOrange&White · 2024-12-11T17:24:07Z

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Again, Moore is in the wrong spot here. He runs that route correctly and he is much closer to where Quinn threw the ball. The ball is under thrown, but it is also a route running error.

So QB can't adjust his throw to the route? I see QBs do it all the time. Quinn just is dog shit at it

Edited 8 hours ago by BurntOrange&White

hobbes2702 · 2024-12-11T17:24:33Z

3 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

No I just don't belong to the echo chamber narrative support group. I am the anti-narrative guy. Yin vs Yang. I won't sit here a read how everything is on Quinn. It's people like you that have caused Chris Simms to never return to campus. I'm hoping that shit behavior doesn't happen again but I'm probably too late. Sad thing is Quinn was always a Texas fan and he came home to help us rebuild and what has he got from so many in return? Grief, why because you thought he would be better. I thought he would to but I'm not gonna shit on the kid, I will defend him. I will take the high ground, you do whatever the fuck you want I guess.

You’re so fucking weird.

Hook1997 · 2024-12-11T17:24:42Z

9 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Again, Moore is in the wrong spot here. He runs that route correctly and he is much closer to where Quinn threw the ball. The ball is under thrown, but it is also a route running error.

So it was a post to pylon or a curl to the pylon? Sure, Ok…. Looks much more like adjusting to a bad pass than a planned deep pass to the front corner of the end zone. If I’m throwing a post I wouldn’t throw it to the front corner of the end zone.

Edited 8 hours ago by Hook1997

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T17:26:04Z

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So QB can't adjust his throw to the route?

He threw it on the break, it was in the air, how exactly would he adjust it?

BurntOrange&White · 2024-12-11T17:29:03Z

1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

He threw it on the break, it was in the air, how exactly would he adjust it?

Interesting....If it was me I'm throwing it out in front of where my receiver is toward the back of the endzone even out of the break. Ya know, to at least give my guy a chance to make a play....not throw it to a spot where you'd have to be the elastic man to make a play. Not toward the front of the end zone 4 yards from the sideline.

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T17:29:34Z

2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

You’re so fucking weird.

I'm not the one coming in a thread bashing a kid for not fulfilling my deepest football fantasies. If that makes me weird, sweet.

wong · 2024-12-11T17:30:05Z

32 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I think Quinn has absurd talent but do to injuries and pressure he just hasn’t put it all together. But he’s been serviceable to slightly above average imo

What absurd talent are you seeing? He doesn't have a great arm. He doesn't throw a good deep ball. He doesn't have great accuracy. He can't run. I'd love to hear more.

Edited 8 hours ago by wong

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T17:30:36Z

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Interesting....If it was me I'm throwing it out in front of where my receiver is toward the back of the endzone even out of the break. Ya know, to at least give my guy a chance to make a play....not throw it to a spot where you'd have to be the elastic man to make a play. Not toward the front of the end zone 4 yards from the sideline.

We've been over this exact play, stop.

BurntOrange&White · 2024-12-11T17:31:13Z

Just now, Longhornlove said:

We've been over this exact play, stop.

So you agree it was a complete shitty throw that didn't give his receiver a chance?

Longhornlove · 2024-12-11T17:32:47Z

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

So you agree it was a complete shitty throw that didn't give his receiver a chance?

Go reread what was already said dumbass if you can't remember or comprehend, I'm not here to spoon feed you.

DaysOff · 2024-12-11T17:33:53Z

No I just don't belong to the echo chamber narrative support group. I am the anti-narrative guy. Yin vs Yang. I won't sit here a read how everything is on Quinn. It's people like you that have caused Chris Simms to never return to campus. I'm hoping that shit behavior doesn't happen again but I'm probably too late. Sad thing is Quinn was always a Texas fan and he came home to help us rebuild and what has he got from so many in return? Grief, why because you thought he would be better. I thought he would to but I'm not gonna shit on the kid, I will defend him. I will take the high ground, you do whatever the fuck you want I guess.

He got the biggest cheer when he walked on senior day. I'm sure he'll be back. The people who post on this board and this thread account for 1/100,000 of the Texas fan base.

Dahobbs · 2024-12-11T17:34:24Z

7 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Helm is done. He is going straight up the hash. I assume with the intent is to occupy his man and the safety. He isnt looking to split the safeties. That allows Golden to the crosser in man underneath.

Helm stumbles because he is cutting inside the safety (and possibly being held, but we never get a closer shot of it). I think he is absolutely trying to split the safeties. But yes, given how it played out, the next read would have been the crosser. As I said, I think Quinn saw the off coverage up top and decided to go to Wingo, so none of that ended up mattering.

https://youtu.be/Uc52IPbPpXo?si=2W9ZWwSSy1C7BU7l&t=3900

Codaxx · 2024-12-11T17:37:15Z

1 minute ago, wong said:

What absurd talent are you seeing? He doesn't have a great arm. He doesn't have great accuracy. He can't run. I'd love to hear more.

Quinn has a hell of an arm. That is one of the most frustrating things about his game. The Worthy out route vs Bama as freshman was a throw half the NFL Qbs cannot make. Texas was running 18 yard curls last year (dont see them much this year for some reason). That is because of his ability to put it on a rope in the intermediate game. Those were the throws that had him a 5 star QB and an expected top 10 pick preseason. It is frustrating, because he rarely uncorks it. He tends to feather the ball most the time. Probably part of the reason he has struggled in the red zone. The ability to drive the ball is certainly in him for some reason he does not do it.

Dahobbs · 2024-12-11T17:37:16Z

11 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So QB can't adjust his throw to the route? I see QBs do it all the time. Quinn just is dog shit at it

The ball was already in the air. Quinn threw it when Moore cut. Quinn can't know Moore is going to stay so far inside. He isn't supposed to do that. Yes, if Quinn holds on to the ball longer, he can adjust the throw. But I'm pretty sure Sark wants Quinn throwing with anticipation at the break rather than holding on to the ball. Criticize him for under throwing it. Don't criticize him for things that would be bad football (holding on to the ball). Bad throw, bad route.

hobbes2702 · 2024-12-11T17:37:39Z

7 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

I'm not the one coming in a thread bashing a kid for not fulfilling my deepest football fantasies. If that makes me weird, sweet.

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