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It doesn't pass the eyeball test.  Maybe Sanders or Ward will surpise in the league.

I love Sanders’ talent. He’s good. I’m more worried about his head and team cancer potential.
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8 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Posted this in another thread but some guy on the radio said “Allar could be the #1 pick if he came out now?  Why take the chance in 2026 in the arch manning draft?”

I will confess I haven't watched a ton of Penn State football this season, but when I did watch him Allar looked like warmed ass.  (Mostly against Oregon and SMU.)

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10 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Posted this in another thread but some guy on the radio said “Allar could be the #1 pick if he came out now?  Why take the chance in 2026 in the arch manning draft?”

Do you really think Arch is coming out after next year?

Nothing I've seen leads me to believe that will be the case.

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Just now, BurntEyes said:

In Quinns defense he Beck had a much better run threat at RB and a better run blocking scheme. Flip side is all the drops Beck had by WRs. Beck also had that smoke show Miami volleyball (?) player to keep entertained and you can't hold that against him but it would have been a factor when I was 21.

The injury history is what I think will scare GMs the most about Quinn.

Etienne is good. He has missed 3 games and been banged up for a handful of others. He would definitely start for Texas. That said Texas has run the ball better than Georgia this year. 

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Just now, BurntEyes said:

Do you really think Arch is coming out after next year?

Nothing I've seen leads me to believe that will be the case.

@HenryJames and others are adamant that he isn’t.  But the national media, including Mel kiper are enamored with him.  When Mel talks this years qb class he always ends every analysis was “do you grab a qb this year or wait till next year?  There’s no guarantee Arch Manning will even come out”

 

 

i don’t know shit about fuck.  I know the Mannings are rich and very prudent.  Arch is making money already. The Mannings seem to be proponents of having 25+ starts before declaring.  But, the right situation, I could see him leaving

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

Etienne is good. He has missed 3 games and been banged up for a handful of others. He would definitely start for Texas. That said Texas has run the ball better than Georgia this year. 

Agreed, that's a factor of a better OC like you or some else already mentioned. 

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6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I will confess I haven't watched a ton of Penn State football this season, but when I did watch him Allar looked like warmed ass.  (Mostly against Oregon and SMU.)

Not a defense nor support of Allar, but PSU's OC is extremely questionable imo.

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32 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

By a gnat's ass -- Beck (2.68% INT rate), Ewers (2.71%).

When the input data is generally 1 maybe 2 subjective significant figures, there is no gnat here. 

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6 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Did Beck miss any games this season?  Ewers missed a huge chance to pad his TD totals by 8-10 at least.

Just the CFP game against ND, along with some of our 2nd game against UGA in the SEC title match.

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2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Spin this however you want buddy. But here are the numbers:

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It's not about spinning just watch the two play. For example in our first meeting Beck never got touched in the pocket and still threw us 3 wtf interceptions. There was a stretch of games where he was just throwing the ball to anybody multiple times a game. 3 vs Bama, 2 vs Miss St, 3 vs us, 3 vs Florida, 1 vs Ole Miss, just trying to lose games like he was on the take.

Again, most of Quinn's INTs you can see what he was trying to do. 5 batted balls at the line. Oklahoma he throws high on the dig to Bond who was wide open he just missed. Wrong shoulder to Bond who deflects in the air. Yesterday he put too much air on the ball but a decent read right? Those aren't wtf throws. A wtf throw is the throw in the first meeting where Quinn doesn't know it's zone and the DB jumps it. Those are the kind of throws Beck and Milroe have regularly and say you can't read coverage. Quinn also missed two and a half games vs the easiest teams on our schedule where he would've padded his stats. Carson Beck got 9 TDs and 550 yards from Tenn Tech and UMass.

As soon as you see me post here you guys come with dumb arguments that if anyone else said the same thing you'd be in agreement with.

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2 hours ago, randomhorn said:

Under thrown 

not bad since it was damn near a no look pass, ASU's 2 dbacks had no clue he was going to Golden until it was too late. There is a field level view from the back of the endzone that shows it well.

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22 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Allar would be best QB in this class if he changes his mind and declares. He’s likely the best QB next year too

Allar is warm piss bro

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OTF brought up a good point today. Who on the Texas offense is elite? Of course Kelvin Banks but that isn't a position to create explosive plays. It is more about skill position. How many did we have last year? Scatterbitch from ASU is an elite college player. Interesting thought when you think about the struggles on offense. I would say the last half of the season Golden might be in that category. Our running backs don't make people miss. Helm is the best at yards after contact. Who had that on their bingo card?

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45 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

He will be the best pro out of any QB mentioned in this class 

He has all the measurables but when you watch him play.........meh

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3 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

OTF brought up a good point today. Who on the Texas offense is elite? Of course Kelvin Banks but that isn't a position to create explosive plays. It is more about skill position. How many did we have last year? Scatterbitch from ASU is an elite college player. Interesting thought when you think about the struggles on offense. I would say the last half of the season Golden might be in that category. Our running backs don't make people miss. Helm is the best at yards after contact. Who had that on their bingo card?

Golden?

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1 minute ago, closetohumping said:

Golden?

I would say towards the end of the year it is close,  throughout the entire season, there isn't one. Is he elite or is he just the only reliable option? He has been fantastic and I'm glad we have him.

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Good breakdown of 4th & 13. Pass was under thrown but the guy points out that it was “thrown on time” which made it catchable for golden without being broken up. Also breaks down how smart Quinn was pre-snap

 

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Quinn's lack of elite complements can be overstated, but it is real. I don't want to speak ill of our RB room, but the dropoff from Bijan -> Brooks -> finally Wisner as starter has been a massive problem. We should always have a guy at RB that everyone else is jealous of and we just don't have that at all. WR room is also a dip and TE is debatable.

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1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Quinn's lack of elite complements can be overstated, but it is real. I don't want to speak ill of our RB room, but the dropoff from Bijan -> Brooks -> finally Wisner as starter has been a massive problem. We should always have a guy at RB that everyone else is jealous of and we just don't have that at all. WR room is also a dip and TE is debatable.

Blue and Wisner were always supposed to be change of pace/boutique backs IMHO. 

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3 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

We desperately need a healthy explosive Bond and reliable explosive Blue.

Healthy Bond isn't happening. He should have been set down long ago till he got healthy. His speed would help all other receiver by opening up the middle for the likes of Helm and others. 

Instead, Bond is a non-factor mostly now, what a waste.

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are we gonna have another WR step up, other than those 2 ^ sure seems like its there for the taking. i've seen out routes to Moore, maybe try that again? something simple and easy to warm the connection up

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For what we need and what he brings, Golden is elite.  He’s open short.  He’s open deep.  He catches balls that many don’t.  Our first play of the game.  He separated then made a move.  The 4th and 13 was a great route.  The 2 pointer was great hands. 

Helm as a pass catcher is pretty strong if not elite.

The two Blue runs versus Clemson would not be duplicated by a ton of dudes.  In the open field he’s incredibly good.

 

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37 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

He has all the measurables but when you watch him play.........meh

Depends on the game. You watch the Big 10 Championship and you say damn. Then you watch SMU game and it’s damn in a completely different way. That is why this QB class is considered so poor. None of these guys are consistent 

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

Depends on the game. You watch the Big 10 Championship and you say damn. Then you watch SMU game and it’s damn in a completely different way. That is why this QB class is considered so poor. None of these guys are consistent 

vs anyone with a defensive pulse

 

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33 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

The two Blue runs versus Clemson would not be duplicated by a ton of dudes.

Elite traits but not production. Without production you aren't much good are you? He can't be trusted, that is why he isn't targeted.

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39 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

For what we need and what he brings, Golden is elite.  He’s open short.  He’s open deep.  He catches balls that many don’t.  Our first play of the game.  He separated then made a move.  The 4th and 13 was a great route.  The 2 pointer was great hands. 

Helm as a pass catcher is pretty strong if not elite.

The two Blue runs versus Clemson would not be duplicated by a ton of dudes.  In the open field he’s incredibly good.

 

 Blue having a big run or 2 would be huge. I would say J Brooks is the guy Texas misses the most from last year. He was money 1 on 1 vs a safety. Even last year the run game was inconsistent down to down. The difference this year is when it’s blocked well Texas is generally getting 7-12 (OU and Clemson games being the exception). Opposing safeties are winning those 1 on 1s more times than not. Brooks would make those  20-30 or hit his head on the goal post.  

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35 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

vs anyone with a defensive pulse

 

Strong to say Oregon doesn’t have a pulse. Believe they were SP+ top 10.. You may not consider them elite, but they certainly have a pulse 

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game is going to boil down to one thing and one thing only.  can the oline block.  if they give the backs a decent running lane and quinn some time. we win. if not we get oregon'd

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9 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

game is going to boil down to one thing and one thing only.  can the oline block.  if they give the backs a decent running lane and quinn some time. we win. if not we get oregon'd

Strongly disagree. Your simple take is just that simplton. It comes down to Sark putting together a game plan to address the issues Texas has at various positions. That's was a guru is supposed to do. Recognize his teams weakness and strengths, align them against the opponents weaknesses and strengths exploit their weaknesses while limiting ours. 

Yes, our players absolutely have to execute at a high level. Not JUST oline, but ALL of them and it starts with QB. 

The 2 most important positions in the game of football are Head coach and Quarterback.

That's championship caliber play. This is where the rubber hits the road. OSU is the biggest threat left, and they are peaking right now. It's time for Sark and Quinn to earn their money.

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7 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

game is going to boil down to one thing and one thing only.  can the oline block.  if they give the backs a decent running lane and quinn some time. we win. if not we get oregon'd

 

all of this 

the weakest link on this team

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3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

all of this 

the weakest link on this team

Olines don't magically go from mediocre run blocking and solid pass blocking to great run blocking in 10 days. 

We are facing the second best or best D we've faced next to Georgia.

The coach has to plan around reality and not hope the players suddenly be strong at something they haven't been to this point.

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8 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Strongly disagree. Your simple take is just that simplton. It comes down to Sark putting together a game plan to address the issues Texas has at various positions. That's was a guru is supposed to do. Recognize his teams weakness and strengths, align them against the opponents weaknesses and strengths exploit their weaknesses while limiting ours. 

Yes, our players absolutely have to execute at a high level. Not JUST oline, but ALL of them and it starts with QB. 

The 2 most important positions in the game of football are Head coach and Quarterback.

That's championship caliber play. This is where the rubber hits the road. OSU is the biggest threat left, and they are peaking right now. It's time for Sark and Quinn to earn their money.

have you watched one down of us on offense you witless dishrag? 

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16 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I'm going so start blocking idiots that quote in Tapatalk. Fucking stop it. It ruins threads with an annoying long cat scroll.

mother complain GIF
 

 

jk - I agree the jiberish quotes are annoying 

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will Howard is not elite or an nfl guy. that's what makes this game even for me. we put the game in his hands, our defense will be fine. this is the Quinn and receiver show. if they're on its a game. running will be at a minimum for both teams. fuck the tree nuts  

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6 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

have you watched one down of us on offense you witless dishrag? 

Did you watch the ASU game you simple minded bitch ass?

You're takes are aren't informative, inciteful or intelligent.

"Our Oline need to run block better."

What a unique and new perspective.

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1 minute ago, Hookem10 said:

will Howard is not elite or an nfl guy. that's what makes this game even for me. we put the game in his hands, our defense will be fine. this is the Quinn and receiver show. if they're on its a game. running will be at a minimum for both teams. fuck the tree nuts  

He's not, but he's throwing to a couple of guys that are. And sometimes that can be enough. 

I'm not saying we're fucked, but those WR's give him a lot more margin for error than most. 

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1 minute ago, Hookem10 said:

will Howard is not elite or an nfl guy. that's what makes this game even for me. we put the game in his hands, our defense will be fine. this is the Quinn and receiver show. if they're on its a game. running will be at a minimum for both teams. fuck the tree nuts  

This. Pass to set up the run. 

RPO

Make them throw the ball. 

How exactly that is accomplished is why Sark makes millions. He need to get it done.

And fuck those Columbus based soft cock punk ass seeds.

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1 minute ago, RichUT said:

He's not, but he's throwing to a couple of guys that are. And sometimes that can be enough. 

I'm not saying we're fucked, but those WR's give him a lot more margin for error than most. 

the wrs will be an issue , but I think if we get pressure with 4 will Howard will make a mistake. I don't think he's very accurate anyway. those wrs will be hell but so is our defense. titan matchup. 

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12 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

the wrs will be an issue , but I think if we get pressure with 4 will Howard will make a mistake. I don't think he's very accurate anyway. those wrs will be hell but so is our defense. titan matchup

These are the games you dream of and that ultimately live on in legacy or remorse forever.

This is why I love sports and specifically college football. 

This is what it's all about. 

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1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

Strong to say Oregon doesn’t have a pulse. Believe they were SP+ top 10.. You may not consider them elite, but they certainly have a pulse 

Oregon struggled defensively all year vs any decent offense. Maybe you didn't see what Will f-ing Howard did to them last week for an example. I think it's safe to say that we know Will Howard enough to say he has no business throwing over 300 with no turnovers 3 TDs and dropping 40 on anyone. Boise put up 34 on them. I may be wrong, but it is my opinion that these teams are getting their lofty rankings because the bottom of the BIG is so bad.

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1 hour ago, Longhornlove said:

Elite traits but not production. Without production you aren't much good are you? He can't be trusted, that is why he isn't targeted.

It’s interesting.  He was trusted in a win or go home game two weeks ago.  But that wasn’t the original play call either.

I understand the lack of trust regarding fumbles.  That does seem to be more of an issue in the game versus pass game though.

Sark is unpredictable so certainly would not predict Blue with another big play or two, but I won’t be surprised either.  We have not seen that angle route lately.

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30 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Did you watch the ASU game you simple minded bitch ass?

You're takes are aren't informative, inciteful or intelligent.

"Our Oline need to run block better."

What a unique and new perspective.

not everything has to be complicated. the reason the game was close was because we couldnt run the fucking ball.  theres nothing else that needs to be added.  

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