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2 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

not everything has to be complicated. the reason the game was close was because we couldnt run the fucking ball.  theres nothing else that needs to be added.  

Didn't you know? These guys expect a quarterback to be able to throw the cape on every week and if he cannot he sucks. Damn a run game. Running games are for pussies. Michigan beat Ohio State with a QB that threw for less than 70 yards but what do you know right?

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17 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

not everything has to be complicated. the reason the game was close was because we couldnt run the fucking ball.  theres nothing else that needs to be added.  

Well then since your incite and knowledge is so complete, and you've provided all the details we need to know I'm sure you won't feel the need to add anymore input to the thread discussion.

On behalf of all Surly, thanks for enlightening us all. We appreciate you for decreasing our regards. You're a saint and a genius.

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Posted
26 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

It’s interesting.  He was trusted in a win or go home game two weeks ago.  But that wasn’t the original play call either.

I understand the lack of trust regarding fumbles.  That does seem to be more of an issue in the game versus pass game though.

Sark is unpredictable so certainly would not predict Blue with another big play or two, but I won’t be surprised either.  We have not seen that angle route lately.

By time he went off, there was plenty of evidence that there would be some explosive plays. Don't forget late against ASU he got hit going out of bounds and fumbled again.

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24 minutes ago, Gidnik said:

not everything has to be complicated. the reason the game was close was because we couldnt run the fucking ball.  theres nothing else that needs to be added.  

it was close because we ran 6 plays in the 3rd quarter. and every trick gimmick play worked with refs swallowing all the flags. 

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Some Will Howard sucks stats.  He’s faced 7 top 20 DFEI defenses.  The Horns 3.

There has been some here to question his accuracy.  Clearly great pass catchers impact that so not sure how you measure that.  In any event, at every depth his adjusted completion percentage his higher than Ewers.  He’s #1 at the deep ball.

A better offense suited to throwing.  One with more talent too.

 

 

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44 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Well then since your incite and knowledge is so complete, and you've provided all the details we need to know I'm sure you won't feel the need to add anymore input to the thread discussion.

On behalf of all Surly, thanks for enlightening us all. We appreciate you for decreasing our regards. You're a saint and a genius.

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48 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Well then since your incite and knowledge is so complete, and you've provided all the details we need to know I'm sure you won't feel the need to add anymore input to the thread discussion.

On behalf of all Surly, thanks for enlightening us all. We appreciate you for decreasing our regards. You're a saint and a genius.

thread is about Quinn.  

Posted
15 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Some Will Howard sucks stats.  He’s faced 7 top 20 DFEI defenses.  The Horns 3.

There has been some here to question his accuracy.  Clearly great pass catchers impact that so not sure how you measure that.  In any event, at every depth his adjusted completion percentage his higher than Ewers.  He’s #1 at the deep ball.

A better offense suited to throwing.  One with more talent too.

 

 

I hope our longhorn defense will survive. maybe tree nuts will take it easy on us. hopefully we can tackle them at least once. 

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Healthy Bond isn't happening. He should have been set down long ago till he got healthy. His speed would help all other receiver by opening up the middle for the likes of Helm and others. 
Instead, Bond is a non-factor mostly now, what a waste.

When Bond was healthy and Golden #2 and Helm dominating in Michigan, I thought we had an upgrade over what we saw in 2023 (that would include a limited Whittington). We’re not scaring Ohio St with Golden #1 and a limited run game. Golden is solid and great at exploiting bad corners. But hes not a prime Bond

We are seeing a healthish Ewers and you can see the difference, though for fuck sake he needs to throw Wingo and Bond open. ASU twice jumped the post route that was late and high.
Posted
3 hours ago, T’Boo Ted Marshall said:


Hasn’t it been a high ankle sprain?

Yes, those don't heal without just staying off of it and time till it heals, that wasn't allowed to happen. So instead, all you got and still getting is non-factor Bond.

Posted
1 hour ago, Hookem10 said:

it was close because we ran 6 plays in the 3rd quarter. and every trick gimmick play worked with refs swallowing all the flags. 

We all know that Sark has a bucket-load of plays, including Arch run/throw plays that have yet to be used….I’m hoping these appear on Friday with our Icy Whites!

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I really can't believe our defense played 97 snaps and didn't give up. That Golden catch and Mukuba INT are one of the most impressive plays I've seen in a long, long time. Two transfers bailed us out. That's how you work the portal. 

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43 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

I really can't believe our defense played 97 snaps and didn't give up. That Golden catch and Mukuba INT are one of the most impressive plays I've seen in a long, long time. Two transfers bailed us out. That's how you work the portal. 

That int reminded me of 2005 Griffin int.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

I really can't believe our defense played 97 snaps and didn't give up. That Golden catch and Mukuba INT are one of the most impressive plays I've seen in a long, long time. Two transfers bailed us out. That's how you work the portal. 

It's criminal our offense couldn't do anything for most of the game and allowed our defense out there to dry.  The defense saved Sark's dogshit plan.

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2 hours ago, westexhorn said:

It's criminal our offense couldn't do anything for most of the game and allowed our defense out there to dry.  The defense saved Sark's dogshit plan.

Go back and watch the game. They were out there for 6 mins. We scored in two plays. They go three and out. We score on a punt return. They go three and out. We go three and out. They run 5 mins off the clock. Then we run 6 mins off the clock. At this point in time the defense should be okay. ASU then goes for it on 4th down and we stop them. 4 mins off the clock. We can't move the ball again. They can't move the ball again either. Then the special teams thing happens and imo that was the straw. Outside of the 1st drive we were kinda matching them. Then the 3rd quarter is where it got ugly. I wanna say we ran 4 plays all 3rd quarter. Just a perfect storm of stupidity and ineptitude.

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6 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Didn’t they have an about a 2:1 ToP advantage in the first half, or am I misremembering?

I think you’re right. But I can’t remember where I left my car keys.

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11 hours ago, Gidnik said:

not everything has to be complicated. the reason the game was close was because we couldnt run the fucking ball.  theres nothing else that needs to be added.  

Irony of this post is the offense started clicking when Sark spread ASU out and abandoned the run. 

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Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, Had Enough said:

Some Will Howard sucks stats.  He’s faced 7 top 20 DFEI defenses.  The Horns 3.

There has been some here to question his accuracy.  Clearly great pass catchers impact that so not sure how you measure that.  In any event, at every depth his adjusted completion percentage his higher than Ewers.  He’s #1 at the deep ball.

A better offense suited to throwing.  One with more talent too.

 

 

He had easily been the best QB in the playoffs. I still don’t trust him, but you have to give him credit 

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Posted
58 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Irony of this post is the offense started clicking when Sark spread ASU out and abandoned the run. 

Last 4 games for Texas according to Babers. 90% completion rate, 30% explosive play rate, and 13 yards per completion out of empty formation. 

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Posted
59 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Irony of this post is the offense started clicking when Sark spread ASU out and abandoned the run. 

What is even more ironic is we would have beat them by 30+ if we run the ball. Wait, is that ironic?

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Posted
Just now, Longhornlove said:

What is even more ironic is we would have beat them by 30+ if we run the ball. Wait, is that ironic?

This is why Herman got fired and OSU lost to Michigan this year. You can smash your head into a wall or you can press your advantage. 

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

This is why Herman got fired and OSU lost to Michigan this year. You can smash your head into a wall or you can press your advantage. 

ASU defense isn't Michigan or OSU or Georgia. We should never have been in that position. There is no excuse for not being able to run the ball on an overmatched, undersized defense.

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7 yards was our longest run against ASU. For a hundred pages we have read that Quinn can't throw the ball worth a shit now we should have abandoned the run sooner. WTF is going on in here. It isn't about abandoning the run, it is executing it. We lost 2 games and almost lost another because we couldn't run the football. I do agree that Sark should have went to the quick, short passing game earlier, dumping down to backs because that OZ was a net negative. We were behind the chains all night.

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Posted
40 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

ASU defense isn't Michigan or OSU or Georgia. We should never have been in that position. There is no excuse for not being able to run the ball on an overmatched, undersized defense.

It is what it is. ASU had a better game plan than Texas. Couple guys had a bad game. You can try to fight it or press your advantage. There is no argument the offense moved the ball better when they spread ASU and picked on their secondary.. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

Didn’t they have an about a 2:1 ToP advantage in the first half, or am I misremembering?

20 min to 10 min or very close to it, yes. It continues lopsided into a good deal of the 3rd.

Anyone that has anything negative to say about the D vs ASU should be negged.

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35 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

7 yards was our longest run against ASU. For a hundred pages we have read that Quinn can't throw the ball worth a shit now we should have abandoned the run sooner. WTF is going on in here. It isn't about abandoning the run, it is executing it. We lost 2 games and almost lost another because we couldn't run the football. I do agree that Sark should have went to the quick, short passing game earlier, dumping down to backs because that OZ was a net negative. We were behind the chains all night.

This is all nonsense. Most people understand who Quinn is. He is very good in clean pockets when he knows where to go with the ball. It’s when the environment is gets muddy, he degrades fast. Nobody thinks Quinn cannot throw a football. He would be my 1st pick of college QBs for a 7 on 7 team. 

7 yards thing is an issue. I said it earlier J Brooks has been missed. That is the biggest difference in the run game. RB is Texas’s least talented position. They do struggle to maximize runs. When Texas gets good blocking too many times it is 7-12 yards. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

It is what it is. ASU had a better game plan than Texas. Couple guys had a bad game. You can try to fight it or press your advantage. There is no argument the offense moved the ball better when they spread ASU and picked on their secondary.. 

This the game plan offensively was extremely bad and ASU's was very good. A very young coach nearly took Sark to the woodshed.

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Posted
52 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

ASU 20:11

UT 9:49

Time of possession deficits happen in 2 ways. Offense is scoring “too quickly” (my favorite fan critique) or punting too quickly. The issue vs ASU was the later 

Posted
On 1/3/2025 at 6:39 PM, BurntEyes said:

we have the players to be a championship caliber O,

We don’t have an RB or any WR other than Golden who would start for our upcoming opponent. Unfortunately I think that gap will be tough to overcome. 

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I know every team at this part of the season can engage in this exercise to some extent, but just think of how much more consistent and efficient this offense would have been with a healthy Baxter and Bond all year. I think if we had Cam Williams for the ASU game it would have helped our run game enough to stave off the late comeback. 
 

College football has always been a war of attrition, but now that it takes 17 games to win a national championship, consistently great recruiting to build depth is more important than ever. We’ve just stacked four straight top-5 classes, so we are well-positioned to keep competing at the highest level going forward. 

Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, bullzak said:

We don’t have an RB or any WR other than Golden who would start for our upcoming opponent. Unfortunately I think that gap will be tough to overcome. 

Maybe, I expect Blue to show out. Bond would start if healthy.

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19 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

It is what it is. ASU had a better game plan than Texas. Couple guys had a bad game. You can try to fight it or press your advantage. There is no argument the offense moved the ball better when they spread ASU and picked on their secondary.. 

You think DJ Cambell not being able to move a 240 lb prince Dorbah off his spot has anything to do with game plan? These are the things I saw in the game. He has that dude by a hundred pounds and got completely stonewalled in OT. That should have been a 6-7 yard gain at minimum that we lost yards on eventually leading to 4th and 13. I agree, Quinn is better when we spread people out and let Quinn sling it. He is comfortable doing that. It wasn't ASUs game plan that stoned our run game as much as just getting whipped at the point of attack. That is the embarrassing part. Sark waited until the last moment to just abandon the run. It worked. Exhilarating game that resembled a roller coaster.

I think its funny that people who have come in here to ridicule Quinn Ewers are now calling for the offense to move to a spread offense throwing the ball all over the yard. Sounds like the complaining should have been focused on something other than Quinn to begin with.

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5 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

You think DJ Cambell not being able to move a 240 lb prince Dorbah off his spot has anything to do with game plan? These are the things I saw in the game. He has that dude by a hundred pounds and got completely stonewalled in OT.

That is so frustrating. I realize we give up some push and physicality with Majors and Conner in exchange for experience and cohesion, but Campbell should be a friggin’ road grader at his size and in his third year. 

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17 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

You think DJ Cambell not being able to move a 240 lb prince Dorbah off his spot has anything to do with game plan? These are the things I saw in the game. He has that dude by a hundred pounds and got completely stonewalled in OT. That should have been a 6-7 yard gain at minimum that we lost yards on eventually leading to 4th and 13. I agree, Quinn is better when we spread people out and let Quinn sling it. He is comfortable doing that. It wasn't ASUs game plan that stoned our run game as much as just getting whipped at the point of attack. That is the embarrassing part. Sark waited until the last moment to just abandon the run. It worked. Exhilarating game that resembled a roller coaster.

I think it’s funny that people who have come in here to ridicule Quinn Ewers are now calling for the offense to move to a spread offense throwing the ball all over the yard. Sounds like the complaining should have been focused on something other than Quinn to begin with.

Not sure DJ matched up Dorbah every often, unless Dorbah moved inside. I’ll take your word that it happened in the game. I didn’t call for Texas to move to a spread passing offense for the season. I was commenting on this game. Asking a QB to throw when the opposing team cannot get any pressure and their DBs are struggling to stay within 5 yards is a good thing. Now that probably won’t work with OSU, because they can rush the QB. Everything is opponent specific 

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1 hour ago, Longhornlove said:

ASU defense isn't Michigan or OSU or Georgia. We should never have been in that position. There is no excuse for not being able to run the ball on an overmatched, undersized defense.

You can try to play based on how you think things will go or you can adjust to how things are actually going. ASU played their asses off upfront and had us scouted extremely well.

Goosby played poorly, Campbell played below average, Majors got beat or stalemated more often than normal.

ASU was aggressive and we really didn't have a ton of opportunities to adjust. It was a hell of a job by Sark and the team to get up early and rally late despite all of the headwinds.

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2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

You can try to play based on how you think things will go or you can adjust to how things are actually going. ASU played their asses off upfront and had us scouted extremely well.

Goosby played poorly, Campbell played below average, Majors got beat or stalemated more often than normal.

ASU was aggressive and we really didn't have a ton of opportunities to adjust. It was a hell of a job by Sark and the team to get up early and rally late despite all of the headwinds.

I wonder if Majors is still dealing with an injury. Probably not a coincidence that he left the Clemson game injured and looked off in the next game. 

Posted
1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

ASU 20:11

UT 9:49

Yes, but that was driven almost entirely by special teams robbing us of 3 offensive possession (2 in a bad way 1 in the best way). 

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Posted
42 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Time of possession deficits happen in 2 ways. Offense is scoring “too quickly” (my favorite fan critique) or punting too quickly. The issue vs ASU was the later 

It happens in many ways. A ST or defensive touchdown and penalties that extend opponent's drives. 

This game went off schedule very early. A part of that was our own decision to go for a punt block after the first drive. 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

It happens in many ways. A ST or defensive touchdown and penalties that extend opponent's drives. 

This game went off schedule very early. A part of that was our own decision to go for a punt block after the first drive. 

 

It’s still absolutely mind boggling we didn’t get the block on that play. 

Posted (edited)

I think these guys were just out leveraging us with their smaller size and speed. 

It happens. I don't think it'll be the same story against OSU, but we can't always rely on deception for blocking schemes to work.

Major Preston

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Posted
1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

It’s still absolutely mind boggling we didn’t get the block on that play. 

Mo Blackwell, for all of his athleticism and toughness, hasn't ever been the most heads-up player. He should have been hyper focused on the punter's foot at that point.

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