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If Arch comes out next year and beats Ohio State and lives up to half the expectations it was dumb to not sit Quinn for more games. He wanted to play though and Sark didn’t want to tank him in the draft. It’s still not a good look after performance tanking multiple years after injury.  It won’t get easier to not get injured in the NFL and most starting quarterbacks play with multiple injuries to some degree most of the season.  

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15 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

If Arch comes out next year and beats Ohio State and lives up to half the expectations it was dumb to not sit Quinn for more games. He wanted to play though and Sark didn’t want to tank him in the draft. It’s still not a good look after performance tanking multiple years after injury.  It won’t get easier to not get injured in the NFL and most starting quarterbacks play with multiple injuries to some degree most of the season.  

You can turn it around and say he’s used to playing with injury. Am I right ?? 

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17 hours ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Yeah, I occasionally click on it for news, but end up sifting through a ton of shit for a milligram of news.  I'm not a smart man.

If you put BO&W on “Ignore” the “ton of shit” is reduced to 3.2 milligrams. 

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12 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Arch wasn’t even good enough to start over still injured Ewers. Your hypotheticals are just that. I’ll trust Sarks assessment of that situation over whoever you are. We lost to the better team. Hope he’s ready next season.

I do not buy your first sentence.

Sark is stubborn, he had a succession plan going into 2024 and wanted to stick to it. There was no pressure coming from Arch's family. He felt he could win a national championship with a hobbled Ewers. 

That is going to be the mentally healthy way to look back at it when Arch kicks ass this year. 

 

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31 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I do not buy your first sentence.

Sark is stubborn, he had a succession plan going into 2024 and wanted to stick to it. There was no pressure coming from Arch's family. He felt he could win a national championship with a hobbled Ewers. 

That is going to be the mentally healthy way to look back at it when Arch kicks ass this year. 

 

Agreed, Sark turtled and played it safe.  What he could have done was mix in more plays for Arch.  Get him on the field, and not just designed run plays/wildcat.  

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40 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I do not buy your first sentence.

Sark is stubborn, he had a succession plan going into 2024 and wanted to stick to it. There was no pressure coming from Arch's family. He felt he could win a national championship with a hobbled Ewers. 

That is going to be the mentally healthy way to look back at it when Arch kicks ass this year. 

 

It could be something as simple as Quinn looked better in practice. IMO the biggest issue for Texas the last 2 seasons has been an inconsistent offense. When the offense was clicking it was a thing of beauty. Quinn looked great. It also was prone to vomit inducing stretches. It was not uncommon to see both in the same game. Sark could have just been betting on Quinn and the offense dampening the volatility or nervous about putting someone with limited experience into that environment. 

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3 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Sark could have just been betting on Quinn and the offense dampening the volatility or nervous about putting someone with limited experience into that environment. 

That's on the coach.  Get your players ready.  It's a long season, especially in the playoff era.  I know the list is longer, but from games I've watched it takes a set of marbles to put in the backup with the primary is struggling.  Riles did it in the Cotton Bowl with Caleb Williams.  Saban with Tua for Jalen, and Jalen for Tua.  Sometimes it takes a spark to get things going.  A wrinkle in the offense to keep the defense guessing.  

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🤔🤔🤔🤔

JUST IN: #Texas star quarterback Quinn Ewers has a formal meeting with the Dallas #Cowboys at the #NFL combine, sources exclusively tell @_MLFootball.

Ewers, 21, was 11 and 1 on the road as a starter in conference games. CFP semifinals 2 seasons in a row and 27 & 5 as a starter.

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1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

🤔🤔🤔🤔

JUST IN: #Texas star quarterback Quinn Ewers has a formal meeting with the Dallas #Cowboys at the #NFL combine, sources exclusively tell @_MLFootball.

Ewers, 21, was 11 and 1 on the road as a starter in conference games. CFP semifinals 2 seasons in a row and 27 & 5 as a starter.

So far his formal meetings:

Jets
Raiders
Cowboys

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3 hours ago, Codaxx said:

It could be something as simple as Quinn looked better in practice.

fwiw there’s a post in this thread where one of our posters has a friend whose kid is on the team, and the kid says that Arch was lights out in practice, clearly better than QE. sark just did not want to make such a big move when he felt he could win it all with QE anyway.

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8 minutes ago, Derka said:

fwiw there’s a post in this thread where one of our posters has a friend whose kid is on the team, and the kid says that Arch was lights out in practice, clearly better than QE. sark just did not want to make such a big move when he felt he could win it all with QE anyway.

That was me. He didn't mention Quinn at all, just that Arch was impressive on a daily basis. 

 

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8 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

30 NFL draft picks across both teams certainly didn't have any bearing on his success.

Having an NFL draft pick at QB certainly didn’t have any bearing on those 30 NFL draft picks success. This is easy and stupid.

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Just now, Hank_Hill said:

Having an NFL draft pick at QB certainly didn’t have any bearing on those 30 NFL draft picks success. This is easy and stupid.

If we had better QB play we win a title. Sad you can't see that. Quinn held this team back.

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

If we had better QB play we win a title. Sad you can't see that. Quinn held this team back.

Too bad the backup didn’t convince Sark he was capable of that this year. Would’ve been nice! 

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it is shocking how much of this highlight reel features plays that QE was objectively incapable of making. i mean the first two plays alone, you’re 15 seconds into the video and it’s like, “holy shit, i’ve never seen QE look this calm in the pocket, make moves so decisively, use his speed and athleticism and improvisational skills to make plays like this. this is our backup?!?” i mean the eyeball test between these two is not close. there’s a massive gulf in talent, poise, athleticism, and decision making. we all watched it with our own eyes, and while many here have been hell bent in on denying it, that tape doesn’t lie. Arch is levels beyond Quinn as a QB, in basically every way possible. Sark choosing not to make qb change midseason does not change this fact.

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10 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Having an NFL draft pick at QB certainly didn’t have any bearing on those 30 NFL draft picks success. This is easy and stupid.

i want you to come to this thread in april when the draft is over and rank every UT player that’s been drafted over the last two years in terms of how good/impactful they were at Texas. can’t wait to see where quinn ranks among the likes of jahdae barron, xavier worthy, jonathan brooks, kelvin banks, t’vondre sweat, jaylan ford, ad mitchell, jt sanders, etc. and then, after the 2026 draft, you can come in here and do it again, including every guy who QE played with at Texas, adding names like bijan robinson, colin simmons, anthony hill, and arch manning.

you’re right that this is easy and stupid, but you’re wrong about why it’s easy and stupid.

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4 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Maybe he’ll prove to Sark he can do it consistently against actual competition this season. Fingers crossed. 

i just want to make it clear that you’re on the record as saying that everything that arch has done to this point is invalid because it was done against unserious competition, and that in your mind, he’s proven nothing, is an unknown commodity, and all we can do is cross our fingers and hope that he’s good next year. because that ^^^ is what every single post you’re making in this thread says. 

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8 minutes ago, Derka said:

it is shocking how much of this highlight reel features plays that QE was objectively incapable of making. i mean the first two plays alone, you’re 15 seconds into the  video and it’s like, “holy shit, i’ve never seen QE look this calm in the pocket, make moves so decisively, use his speed and athleticism and improvisational skills to make plays like this. this is our backup?!?” i mean the eyeball test between these two is not close. there’s a massive gulf in talent, poise, athleticism, and decision making. we all watched it with our own eyes, and while many here have been hell bent in on denying it, that tape doesn’t lie. Arch is levels beyond Quinn as a QB, in basically every way possible. Sark choosing not to make qb change midseason does not change this fact.

I distinctly remember seeing the TD throw right before half time against MSU and thinking the guy definitely has a higher ceiling than Ewers. He got popped pretty good and delivered it on the money. It's just one of those things that you see and you know this guy is a different breed.

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9 minutes ago, Derka said:

i want you to come to this thread in april when the draft is over and rank every UT player that’s been drafted over the last two years in terms of how good/impactful they were at Texas. can’t wait to see where quinn ranks among the likes of jahdae barron, xavier worthy, jonathan brooks, kelvin banks, t’vondre sweat, jaylan ford, ad mitchell, jt sanders, etc. and then, after the 2026 draft, you can come in here and do it again, including every guy who QE played with at Texas, adding names like bijan robinson, colin simmons, anthony hill, and arch manning.

you’re right that this is easy and stupid, but you’re wrong about why it’s easy and stupid.

Those players would’ve all had worse season records at Texas with a worse QB running things. Pretty simple.  And I will not be doing that because that sounds dorky as fuck.

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Just now, Hank_Hill said:

Not invalid at all just didn’t show Sark that he was better than an injured Quinn Ewers (which according to this thread, is really bad) 

That's a reach.  Did you forget all the years Mack refused to play demonstrably better freshmen simply because they were freshmen?  He had this bug up his ass for years about it, and if they did play, it was always after the RRS.

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1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

That's a reach.  Did you forget all the years Mack refused to play demonstrably better freshmen simply because they were freshmen?  He had this bug up his ass for years about it, and if they did play, it was always after the RRS.

Sark has shown no problem playing younger players that show they are better.

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