Top Gun 2

[ztejas 43528]

11 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I guess Kelly Mcgillis looks like a troll now? 

Yeah because she was total smoke in the 80s... 

[WhatTheBuck 28797]

11 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I liked it better than the original. I thought the first half dragged a little but they really stuck the landing. 

And I love Jennifer Connely but I just didn't feel the chemistry between her and Maverick. That whole plot line just felt forced and unnecessary. I guess Kelly Mcgillis looks like a troll now? 

I never really felt the chemistry between Cruise and McGillis in the original. I thought Kelly was better as an Amish woman in Witness.

Jennifer Connelly is still hot, though. Those boots. Mrowr.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19142]

I saw it yesterday AM at the Lincoln Center IMAX (it is a real IMAX), and I loved it.  Also, Miles Teller was very good in this.  And I am always up for some Glen Powell.  

I have to say, there was some really good actiing by Tom Cruise in this, and yeah, I teared up a few times.  

I will go see this again.  Also, loved the preview for the new Jurassic Park movie, so I have tickets to see that first showing in IMAX 2D on that first Saturday AM.  That is a good time to go to the movies in NYC.

[Nicole44 22072]

Just saw it! Loved it! Very well done. Pretty much my row was full of the young people (late teens early twenties) and they seem to like it a lot. Would definitely see again. I love that feeling of leaving the theater when I’ve seen a great movie. 
 

I was worried about how a sequel type of film would be…I shouldn’t have been. It was well worth the wait…imo. Glad so many Surlies loved it!!!

 

Because I’m a geek to the core I wore a tshirt re: the original to this one. Lmao.

[Brisketexan 105275]

Just doing a rewatch with my dad and the boy tonight before we go see 2 tomorrow:

[stork642 4498]

It was great!  Well done and very entertaining.  Can’t remember the last time I’ve heard people cheering at the end of a movie but they were today. 

[stork642 4498]

2 hours ago, HiggyBaby said:

Talk about take my breath away.  

[Longhornstampede 3186]

Loved the nod to the Skunk Works on the tail of the test plane in the beginning of the film.... 

[ztejas 43528]

Just watched the OG. I think this is only my 2nd time seeing it. 

How can you not love Iceman. 

 

May have to check the new one out. 

[Hawndoh 2386]

It was completely ridiculous. It was great. Fun time and worth the cost of the ticket to see it on the big screen and not wait for home viewing.

[ABSR 5321]

On 5/27/2022 at 3:56 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

Did it set up top gun 3 and beyond?

Yep.  Release date has been announced as 2059.  Tom Cruise will look the same.

[Nicole44 22072]

My friend and his Air Force buddies saw it last night and were very impressed with the flight sequences..

Spoiler

Particularly the effects of high G on the body…gloc and all of that. He sent me this article so SIAP…https://theconversation.com/amp/top-gun-how-fighter-jet-pilots-withstand-high-g-183666

 

 

[RexWilson 1348]

Spoiler

They used tomahawks to take out the airfield. Why not use them/guided missle for the uranium target?

Loved it. Did have one question about the mission 

[Hawndoh 2386]

Same reason they didnt use F22s. The plot would be boring.

[CooterBrown 18022]

Yeah because she was total smoke in the 80s... 

During our rewatch of the OG on Saturday, my wife made the comment that McGillis is unattractive and manly. Never thought about it before but I think her being manly with the deep voice fits it being a totally gay movie so Tom could get his freak on, on screen without upsetting Xenu.

[squeegeedegg 723]

22 hours ago, Mittens said:

Saw it yesterday and have to say it was pretty damn good.  Pleasantly surprised and definitely recommend.  My nitpiks:

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Could the attack run be any bigger ripoff from Star Wars? Very sneaky how they changed the target size from 2m to 3m though.

When they're on the final attack run, I think when Rooster finally gets his shit together and is making the climb, you can see a GoPro mounted on the rear of the aircraft.

I get why they're using F18s and not F35/F22 for the movie, as they weren't going to get that access, but the premise that we don't have Gen5 aircraft to fight their Gen5 aircraft is idiotic, particularly since there is an F35/F22 (I can't tell the difference in passing) in the opening scene of the movie.

The black guy that follows Maverick through the whole movie...that's not how the military works!  Dude can't be running a test flight program, then be a Top Gun instructor/staffer, then be running an aircraft carrier's launch/capture ops.

Aircraft Carrier w/o their support group anywhere in sight, yet cruise missiles are fired from nowhere...and on the same flight path as the planes?

Something they did in the OG and carried over again - refusal to launch support aircraft, and when they do, it's only 1 plane.  That's not how that works at all.

All pretty minor Hollywood stuff and certainly doesn't impact the movie for the masses, just my OCD and understanding of how those ops go.  

F-35C was the one in the opening scene.  

The Death Star trench run design of the big challenge ruined it all for me.  You can still make a movie about old school pilotage and teamwork yada yada with some close in dogfighting and ground striking without crafting a scenario where the use of manned conventional (non stealth) aircraft is the WORST approach and least likely to succeed.  The cruise missiles, particularly tomahawks, would themselves fly roughly the same speed as the Hornets and would be subject to the same anti aircraft dangers as the rest of the flyers.  If it's going to be CGI anyway, make them JASSMs at least.  And use some Growlers and show that side of the engagement, detection, jamming, it can still be a movie!  You CAN adapt to the times just a little bit, it will still be fun

Old Top Gun and new Top Gun alike many times made ejection a central theme and made it clear it's a dangerous thing in its own right, except we just started the movie with a Mach 10 RUD at 200k feet agl and cut to Mav walking into a diner asking for some water.

Same with the G forces, it's relevant only after Maverick and Rooster do a death spiral 90 degrees to the ground.  Typical movie stuff, but having just a modicum of respect for the subject matter would go a long way.  

Agreed on Hondo, he went from black project testing leader or what have you, to useless but loveable and chubby sidekick status in an instant.  

The maneuver of choice time and time again to gain the upper hand in their crafted dogfights is the cobra, renowned the world over as an airshow gimmick, and utterly useless in combat.  Not to mention the Hornet and especially Tomcat can't do it, but yes, here it works vs an opponent with thrust vectoring.  There's other ways to do this that doesn't result in nonsense.  I guess I'm in the minority but the technical side of this movie struck well below average even for Hollywood action, and that's saying something 

[Aqua Buddha 14600]

Lulz at the plot nit picks.  The plot and mission are ridiculous but not as ridiculous as how they got out but I didn't care.  It was a fucking glorious movie and I'll prolly see it again in a theater.

[bschoolprof 6271]

 The plot in the 1st one was ridiculous as well.  The ruskis and us and are shooting down planes at the height of the cold war for no apparent reason and with little regard for WW3?  Cool.  

Stop bitching about the silly plot.  

[Longhornstampede 3186]

1 hour ago, squeegeedegg said:

started the movie with a Mach 10 RUD at 200k feet agl and cut to Mav walking into a diner asking for some water.

I saw this scene as an homage to....

 

[squeegeedegg 723]

6 minutes ago, Longhornstampede said:

I saw this scene as an homage to....

 

Thanks for that, forgot how good The Right Stuff was, last saw it when I was 7 I think, I should watch it again.   Homage or not, this scene is bang on from a technical sense, complete apples to oranges to what the Top Gun hypersonic test scene went 

[TonyTexas 10524]

2 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

During our rewatch of the OG on Saturday, my wife made the comment that McGillis is unattractive and manly. Never thought about it before but I think her being manly with the deep voice fits it being a totally gay movie so Tom could get his freak on, on screen without upsetting Xenu.

Your wife is a fantastic judge of deep-seated beauty or lack there of. Here’s McGillis 35 years later. 

 

[miguelito 11291]

Is it just me, or did the movie go out of its way to not name who the enemy was?  I mean it seemed clear it was Russia, but I don't think they were even named, with respect to the aircraft or even the target location. 

[squeegeedegg 723]

4 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Is it just me, or did the movie go out of its way to not name who the enemy was?  I mean it seemed clear it was Russia, but I don't think they were even named, with respect to the aircraft or even the target location. 

"Rogue State" is as far as they went.  Only thing Russian about them were the Su-57s, but then again they also had F-14s.  Iran would very loosely fit the bill 

[Hawndoh 2386]

The snowy mountain terrain plus advanced anti-air and fighter jets makes it Russia or China.

They leave it vague so they can still sell tickets in China.

 

[squeegeedegg 723]

5 minutes ago, Hawndoh said:

The snowy mountain terrain plus advanced anti-air and fighter jets makes it Russia or China.

They leave it vague so they can still sell tickets in China.

 

China has J-20s and is a nuclear power, ditto for Russia, so the impetus for attacking at all is a non starter if they're supposed to be either of these nations.  It's modelled more after Iran or Lybia, client states of the major military industrial powers, buying stuff like jets and SAMs

[A-Tex Devil 2461]

Maverick is very clearly supposed to be modern day Yeager.  It helps, kind of, explain his status in the Navy at his age. Better explanation than anything else, I guess.   

[Hawndoh 2386]

Then some rogue-a-stan nation. Kind of like the bad guys in Crimson Tide.

[Parliament 14286]

Or like the bad guys in Top Gun 1.

[Surly Bevo 25139]

48 minutes ago, Hawndoh said:

Then some rogue-a-stan nation. Kind of like the bad guys in Crimson Tide.

The bad guys in Crimson Tide were Russian separatists who had staged a coup with brief success and gained control of the Russian nuclear apparatus....it wasn't a mystery.

[Hawndoh 2386]

Well, all I can really remember about that movie is Gene Hackman and Denzel yelling at each other, and something about the Silver Surfer.

[RamjetFDO 10577]

Well, all I can really remember about that movie is Gene Hackman and Denzel yelling at each other, and something about the Silver Surfer.

Everybody who reads comic books knows that the Kirby Silver Surfer is the only true Silver Surfer. Now am I right or wrong?

[MAUFRAIS 6633]

That part was written by Quentin Tarantino, who also gave us the great top gun discussion.

[The Ace of Aces 5194]

Saw this yesterday on the best IMAX screen in Philadelphia. It was perfect. Can’t think of a better sequel aside from Godfather 2 that is better than the original. 

lol at plot nit picks. Like Maverick says, stop thinking when you watch this. It is a perfect movie for your brain to be turned off and enjoy Tom Cruise doing what he does best. 

[Macanudo 13009]

Saw it this afternoon.    Enjoyed it a lot.   Sure, plot holes and cheesy nostalgia but I loved it.    Some lines from the original made it in as well.

I could have sworn they named the country as Iran.  And....   outside of the U.S. Navy they were the only country to fly them.   Iran makes sense to some degree and in 2.5 minutes at 450 knots you could be 18 +/- miles inside their borders within 2.5 minutes.   

[ajax 2620]

I never saw the original Top Gun so I watched it on Netflix last night. It was okay. I saw Maverick today and it was amazing. 10x better than the first movie. Great action and lots of feels.

Coincidentally, I watched it on 4dx which was interesting. I liked it but those seats are not designed for people over 6 get tall. It's super cramped.

[NWBuck 8583]

20 hours ago, stork642 said:

Talk about take my breath away.  

Particularly if she sat on you

[Kennythetiger 9434]

1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

Saw it this afternoon.    Enjoyed it a lot.   Sure, plot holes and cheesy nostalgia but I loved it.    Some lines from the original made it in as well.

I could have sworn they named the country as Iran.  And....   outside of the U.S. Navy they were the only country to fly them.   Iran makes sense to some degree and in 2.5 minutes at 450 knots you could be 18 +/- miles inside their borders within 2.5 minutes.   

I enjoyed the original lines as well. 

[Brisketexan 105275]

Expected it to be good.

It was better.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10352]

Loved it, felt like a throwback movie where you're not supposed to worry about plot holes or details but just sit back and enjoy it. Tom Cruise is still pretty good at these movie things.

 

[BluTechsan 393]

On 5/29/2022 at 11:09 AM, Mittens said:

Saw it yesterday and have to say it was pretty damn good.  Pleasantly surprised and definitely recommend.  My nitpiks:

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Could the attack run be any bigger ripoff from Star Wars? Very sneaky how they changed the target size from 2m to 3m though.

When they're on the final attack run, I think when Rooster finally gets his shit together and is making the climb, you can see a GoPro mounted on the rear of the aircraft.

I get why they're using F18s and not F35/F22 for the movie, as they weren't going to get that access, but the premise that we don't have Gen5 aircraft to fight their Gen5 aircraft is idiotic, particularly since there is an F35/F22 (I can't tell the difference in passing) in the opening scene of the movie.

The black guy that follows Maverick through the whole movie...that's not how the military works!  Dude can't be running a test flight program, then be a Top Gun instructor/staffer, then be running an aircraft carrier's launch/capture ops.

Aircraft Carrier w/o their support group anywhere in sight, yet cruise missiles are fired from nowhere...and on the same flight path as the planes?

Something they did in the OG and carried over again - refusal to launch support aircraft, and when they do, it's only 1 plane.  That's not how that works at all.

All pretty minor Hollywood stuff and certainly doesn't impact the movie for the masses, just my OCD and understanding of how those ops go.  

no, it’s not just your OCD - I didn’t like that country ‘X’ had more advanced aircraft either

[CooterBrown 18022]

no, it’s not just your OCD - I didn’t like that country ‘X’ had more advanced aircraft either

To be fair, until a few months ago we considered Russia to be so advanced that UFO sightings were possibly of their military technology.

Today though?

[CooterBrown 18022]

Lulz.

[utxmike05 1828]

Fuk yea.  Saw it in IMAX last night.  Love the original, so had no doubt this one would be better action with today's movie technology. Some throwback things were a little overboard like Rooster playing piano and dressing JUST like Goose.  But the rest was great nostalgia.

Intro song always gets the blood flowing...

Only complaint is the new music sucked.  When playing football....and when he took Penny on a ride 

[Red Five 40881]

Good lord Jennifer Connelly. 

[TrashMaster G 17588]

On 5/28/2022 at 2:19 PM, Paco said:

It's perfectly okay for you to think this movie was "mediocre". You said it yourself: you were born in the 80's, which means it's impossible for you to understand the context of the original, and therefore impossible to understand why so many of us loved Top Gun 2.

The majority of us on this site were born in the 60's and 70's. We were children of the cold war. We grew up in a country trying to heal from Vietnam. We didn't have very many war movies, and the ones we did have painted our military in a very bad light (and rightly so). The US military was broken in the 70's, and was in the midst of a total rebuild in the 80's. But I don't expect you to understand that.

Having your opinion is one thing, but then calling others blow hards and saying you're just smarter than everyone else is some blistering irony. But I don't expect you to understand that either, because it's the very nature of a truly stupid blow hard douche bag to be completely unaware of of your horrible personality.

TLDR: you are a douche of the highest order. Have a nice day.

Would pos rep again if I could.

[Brisketexan 105275]

Good lord Jennifer Connelly. 

Yeah….an almost superfluous character….but I don’t give a shit.
She’s been near my #1 since I saw her in Labyrinth (we’re about the same age), and she remains there.

[Red Five 40881]

Spoiler

I was wondering how they would handle having Iceman in the movie, what with Kilmer's throat cancer. I guess actually giving Iceman throat cancer was too obvious to predict. 

 

[Macanudo 13009]

7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah….an almost superfluous character….but I don’t give a shit.
She’s been near my #1 since I saw her in Labyrinth (we’re about the same age), and she remains there.

Actually, she was his new beginning even if they had been there before.   She was something to start new with.  Again.

[Brisketexan 105275]

Actually, she was his new beginning even if they had been there before.   She was something to start new with.  Again.

Penny Benjamin 2, Maverick’s Electric Boogaloo?

[Red Five 40881]

I can haz new beginning with Connelly?