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Ghost of LL

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2 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

this represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what people who are suicidal are going through. i hope you take some time to ruminate on the topic, learn a little bit more about it, and come back to the thread with a more enlightened take.

I think it's uncharitable to say that BrazilHorn is "unenlightened."  His take is basically right--people with mental illness should be encouraged to seek treatment, not subjected to the type of scorn or shame that causes their "pride" to prevent them from doing so.

But, at the same time, yelling at someone "get help!" isn't particularly constructive.  It's like telling someone with cardiac disease "run twenty miles in the Texas summer to the cardiologist to get treatment."  It doesn't do much to address the issue.

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17 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I think it's uncharitable to say that BrazilHorn is "unenlightened."  His take is basically right--people with mental illness should be encouraged to seek treatment, not subjected to the type of scorn or shame that causes their "pride" to prevent them from doing so.

But, at the same time, yelling at someone "get help!" isn't particularly constructive.  It's like telling someone with cardiac disease "run twenty miles in the Texas summer to the cardiologist to get treatment."  It doesn't do much to address the issue.

good point, @BrazilHorn accept my apology for the harsh tone.

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I agree upon reflection my take was poor. I was frankly mad at him for doing this as he was someone I really enjoyed reading/watching. 

Agree it’s not a pride thing. Just hate that people cannot see light at end of tunnel. I feel terrible for their families that have to pick up pieces. 

Poor choice of words on my part on original post. Just wish people felt they had a better outlet. 

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Very sad news, as all of them are.  

National Suicide Hotline:  1-800-273-8255.  Call if you know or suspect anyone who seems depressed or may have any thoughts of suicide. 

I realize it's easier to say this than to actually know or put into action.  We all can be more aware.  This can happen to anyone.

God bless Anthony, his family and anyone who has had to go through or been touched by this terrible illness.  

 

 

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The complexities of depression can be mind boggling, in how one can endure war/ death/ PTSD, ect., while others snap from losing out on fame or some lucrative contract... (And by no means an I meaning to minimize nor disrespect what Anthony Bourdain was dealing with, just the opposite, in that a smile we show others can hide a deep sorrow within oneself...)

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The first time I ever watched his show (and up until that moment had no idea who he was) he was in Havana. And for those who are familiar with how the show flowed, remember that he always did the local scene along with the food angle. Usually to get plastered on some local brew.

In that episode he stops by a barber who he had heard was the fucking man with a straight razor. Best shave in Havana he was told. Unfortunately the guy was so absolutely freaked about being on camera he was unable to stop his hands from shaking. Watching AB get literally chopped up from the guys shaking hands was the most incredible thing I had ever seen. When he left the shop he had multiple cuts, bleeding all over his shirt, and wore the cuts with pride. I didn’t see him flinch a single time. And never (at least on camera) spoke a disparaging word about the guy. The most ultimate take it like man situation I have ever seen. If that shit wasn’t a set up he was a fucking bad ass.

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On 6/8/2018 at 9:13 AM, Ghost of LL said:

There aren't a lot of things I watch on tv.  But Bourdain's show was one of them.  It was never trite.  It didn't try too hard.  It just gave a touch of honesty and insight sprinkled in with your food porn.  Which is probably a reflection of its creator.

I'm really upset by this one.  I don't really know why--he was a celebrity whom I never met.  But he made his show and wrote his books in a way that left me thinking that I did know him, and that he was a friend.

 

I was off the grid starting Thursday and back to the grind this morning. 

 

The above post is without a doubt exactly how I feel about Tony's death. He was an amazing story teller and everyone could learn a thing or two from him and that is no matter how different we think we are from those around the world or standing next to us that we think we hate, fear, or make fun of we are all a hell of a lot more alike than different. 

Being kind, understanding and actually listening to what others have to say can solve a shit ton of problems in this world. You don't have to agree with everything that someone says or feels but wanting to find out or understand why they feel that way is something that all of us can do a hell of a lot better at. 

Life's to fucking short to be angry and negative. 

Rip Tony. 

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On 6/8/2018 at 4:55 PM, Stringer said:

He was an unbelievable storyteller through his books and his shows.  He'll be missed.

If you haven't seen his episode in Houston from the last couple of years, seek it out.  It's terrific.

 

Last season and this season of his show have been amazing. 

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2 hours ago, RPM said:

The retrospective CNN did Sunday night was excellent. Thought it was pretty classy they ran it commercial free.

 

I agree, and I understand why but only having CNN anchors who at most have known him for a few years instead of actual (OR ANY) NY based cooks or chefs was kind of disappointing. 

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yeah i would love to hear what lydia and zamir* and others who've known him for 18 years have to say.  i understand why CNN focused on their own people, but even with the huge swath of destruction he left at the discovery channel from a cook's tour people loved him on the travel channel.  

 

i had no idea the guy he picked to be executive chef at les halles after he left, carlos garcia, died a few years ago from cancer.  the guy was young, 39.  he was the host/kinda fixer when bourdain went to mexico on no reservations.  a shame.

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27 minutes ago, JimmyHoffa said:

I agree, and I understand why but only having CNN anchors who at most have known him for a few years instead of actual (OR ANY) NY based cooks or chefs was kind of disappointing. 

Yeah, I was expecting other people, too. Guess they wanted to keep it in house. I've been wondering if there is anything in the can that hasn't been released beyond this season. Will CNN stoop down to Travel Channel level and recut footage to make a season or two of clip shows?

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20 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

yeah i would love to hear what lydia and zamir* and others who've known him for 18 years have to say.  i understand why CNN focused on their own people, but even with the huge swath of destruction he left at the discovery channel from a cook's tour people loved him on the travel channel.  

 

i had no idea the guy he picked to be executive chef at les halles after he left, carlos garcia, died a few years ago from cancer.  the guy was young, 39.  he was the host/kinda fixer when bourdain went to mexico on no reservations.  a shame.

Did not know that Carlos had died. I remember the episode where he was Tony's host. That guy had an amazing story, similar to many others who make the journey north to work for a better life.

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The way he talked about food as the basis of community was astounding and, yes, I loved seeing all the dishes and the drinks he shared with people who he genuinely respected.  But, the turning point for me came in his 2014 interview of Anabel Hernandez, the Mexican journalist who writes honestly about the cartels. It was in the Parts Unknown episode about Mexico City.  Yes, he talks about the food of Oaxaca and all that, but that interview was as good a piece of true journalism as I have ever seen.  It characterization of the effect of drug violence on Mexican life was brutal.  I had thought of him as a cocky bullshit artist, a second rate chef that found celebrity by writing about life in the kitchen with a lot of cuss words and drug references.  Not, that I didn't like him. I did and I enjoyed his shows.  I just didn't realize how good he was at what he was doing until that interview.  It was serious business, indeed.  And so well done.


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In the David Simon interview that was posted earlier, he talked about how widely read and smart Bourdain was.  Simon has a CIA series that he has been trying to get green lit for years.  Bourdain blew him away with his knowledge about the history of the CIA when Simon told him about the project.  He was so going to be a writer for it if it ever got picked up because he knew so much about it.

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22 hours ago, JimmyHoffa said:

This is long as fuck but since it's from David Simon a TV guy I am putting it here, it's really great. 

https://davidsimon.com/tony/

 

 

Thanks, damn, this was worth reading. 

I loved Bourdain and was greatly entertained by his writing and shows.  As for the TV, in addition to being a big fan of No Reservations/Parts Unknown, I also really enjoyed The Layover.  I'm having a really hard time coming up with someone else that will be able to do anything even approaching the level of what he was doing. 

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2011 - John Mueller's BBQ - S. 1st Street, Austin, Texas.

Pay no attention to the old fat dude handing his last 3 or 4 ounces of Garrison Brothers Texas Straight Bourbon Whiskey to Bourdain after pouring shots for his fellow Shagsters to chase the 6 or 7 free beers from John's keg:

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

2011 - John Mueller's BBQ - S. 1st Street, Austin, Texas.

Pay no attention to the old fat dude handing his last 3 or 4 ounces of Garrison Brothers Texas Straight Bourbon Whiskey to Bourdain after pouring shots for his fellow Shagsters to chase the 6 or 7 free beers from John's keg:

 

 

He looked at you like "you're giving me an empty bottle, fuckhead?"

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He was very courteous and thanked the donor politely. He & his friends did sample the remnants.

http://www.fullcustomgospelbbq.com/  
 

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Tony and I at JMueller BBQ
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The feast at JMueller BBQ
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When dining with Tony, fine bourbon just shows up on the table.

A big thanks to Anthony Bourdain for having me on the show and hopefully making me look intelligent this evening. The whole crew was great to work with, so I know the show will be great. I hope you enjoy it.

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30 minutes ago, JimmyHoffa said:

So Asia Argento seems like someone I really wouldn't want to be around:

 

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I'm gonna guess that she isn't the most stable, healthy presence to have in your life.

But she also seems like a llibertine Italian sexual hellcat, so....there's that.  I'm guessing that part of the calculus held some sway over Mr. Bourdain.

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18 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm gonna guess that she isn't the most stable, healthy presence to have in your life.

But she also seems like a llibertine Italian sexual hellcat, so....there's that.  I'm guessing that part of the calculus held some sway over Mr. Bourdain.

 

Yeah she's off the charts on the cray factor but for sure it had it's benefits. Tony self admittedly like to walk that fine line on everything else in his life so not sure why women would be any different.

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