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6 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

I do know more about football and less about recruiting than you. It’s easy to do.  Spend more time addressing autocorrects gone wrong.

Every time you post on this board, we get collectively dumber thanks to your efforts. 

"Nuh uhhh!! I'm really smart!!! Ignore all of my posts and just trust me, guys!!!"

 

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Maalik plays school. Great move for this young man. I hope he slays it and gets drafted. 

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49 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

This seems to be true in every sport, but especially baseball.

"All that guy has to do is learn to control his fastball!" 

"If he can learn to lay off the breaking ball..."

Yeah...

Years ago when my relative was being recruited in baseball (played for WG @Rice), I had a conversation with a Pirates area scout and this conversation came up. I asked what he looked for most in a high school prospect, “swing and miss” stuff, clean mechanics, physical build, etc. 

Without hesitation he said, “command of the fastball”, followed by “swing and miss in the zone”. He said, “If they’re not throwing strikes in high school, it’s an issue. Very rare to see someone improve control as they advance in competition”. 
Stating the obvious, but it’s amazing how many coaches are convinced they can “fix” mechanics and muscle memory.

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2 minutes ago, Marshall_Lucky said:

Years ago when my relative was being recruited in baseball (played for WG @Rice), I had a conversation with a Pirates area scout and this conversation came up. I asked what he looked for most in a high school prospect, “swing and miss” stuff, clean mechanics, physical build, etc. 

Without hesitation he said, “command of the fastball”, followed by “swing and miss in the zone”. He said, “If they’re not throwing strikes in high school, it’s an issue. Very rare to see someone improve control as they advance in competition”. 
Stating the obvious, but it’s amazing how many coaches are convinced they can “fix” mechanics and muscle memory.

We were in the playoffs going up against a Clear Lake team with two old boys who threw in the 90's. One of them had control and we eventually got to him. Stud. They bring the other guy in and he throws harder, upper 90's. His control is notoriously garbage. I'm the first guy to face him and on his second or third pitch, he whips one up at my head. It nicked the tip of my nose as I tried to escape and his pitch seared the skin into a turf burn as it went by and I looked like Rudolph for a week. Hey, got to first and we won though.

Anyway, the guy with control in the low to mid 90's never got drafted in HS or college. The idiot in the upper 90's went in the middle-late rounds of that summer's MLB draft. Played 2 years, couldn't stop walking people and has probably been selling insurance ever since. Scouts can talk about control (not singling this experience out since what he said may be how he really rolled), but they absolutely crave something elite like high 90's heat.

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In the era of the college football transfer portal, the culture surrounding players who leave large schools can often become toxic.

When Caleb Williams left Oklahoma and followed head coach Lincoln Riley to USC, hate and backlash ran rampant on social media. Despite all of this, one of the hallmarks of the Steve Sarkisian regime has been his treatment of players, even those that eventually left the program, and that seems to have held true with former quarterback Maalik Murphy.

Murphy grew to be a fan favorite in his short two years with the Longhorns. Murphy was the first notable quarterback brought in by Sarkisian at Texas (no disrespect to former three star and current third-stringer Cole Lourd) after the initial decommitment of Quinn Ewers, leading many fans to believe the 6'5, 240-pound mammoth of a recruit was the future of Texas football.

Shortly after, however, Murphy was overtaken by some of the biggest names in college football. Ewers came back to the 40 acres, and a year later Arch Manning became the most notable recruit Texas had gotten since Vince Young.

But Murphy stayed strong, not leaving the Horns and earning himself a spot as a backup to Ewers in 2023. As a part of the eventual Big 12 champions and CFP contenders, Murphy was forced to come in for two starts while Ewers dealt with injury. Murphy, who entered the transfer portal before the team made it to New Orleans, ended his Texas career with a flawless 2-0 record, throwing for 477 yards and three touchdowns on 71 attempts.

With the presence of Manning looming behind him on the depth chart, Murphy made the tough decision to enter the portal. Because of the deadlines set in place by the NCAA, Murphy was not able to join the team in New Orleans for the Sugar Bowl. Despite all of this, Murphy told reports at the ACC Kickoff Event on Wednesday that he will continue rooting for the Longhorns and his friends, truly embracing the "Longhorn for Life" slogan.

“Definitely, definitely, definitely. I can’t wait,” Maalik Murphy said. “We have a lot of Friday games this year, so hopefully they don’t play on Fridays like we do and I’m able to watch them and follow them on Saturdays. So definitely my boys. There’s a couple of guys on the team I talk to every single day still. So I’m excited for them.”

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Murphy added that he was still in touch with both Ewers and Manning and expects this year's team to continue on the momentum of 2023.

"If they do anything less than what we did last year I will be surprised,” Murphy said. “I feel like they’re on the right path. Coach Sark is doing a lot of good things… and I’m really excited to see what they can do this year.”

It sounds like Murphy will make the effort to tune in as much as possible, but in the meantime, he has yet another quarterback battle to win in Durham. Though Murphy was 247's sixth highest-rated quarterback transfer, sophomore Grayson Loftis is making sure the job isn't Murphy's just yet. The three-star played meaningful snaps in five games for the Blue Devils in 2023, filling in for the injured Riley Leonard, and notched over 1000 yards passing with eight touchdowns and four interceptions. Murphy is expected to be the starter, however, and a little competition has never scared away the former Longhorn. 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Sock Monkey said:

It’s impossible for me not to like Murphy. If he takes the starting job at Duke and can put up above average stats, he’ll get a shot at the NFL.

Reminds me a little of Jacoby Brissett

Kind of stunk at Florida then lit it up at NC State

has a great career as a backup in the NFL and sometimes starter - now leading the pats. 

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21 hours ago, Sock Monkey said:

It’s impossible for me not to like Murphy. If he takes the starting job at Duke and can put up above average stats, he’ll get a shot at the NFL.


I don’t hold any ill will towards Murphy and I hope he does well at Duke but nothing we saw from him would suggest he’s going to be in the NFL. 

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The accuracy of an athlete is an interesting topic. Whether it’s a QB throwing deep patterns or a pitcher hitting 95, I’m of the strong opinion some guys are born with a level of athleticism accuracy and muscle memory that's inherently better than others.

My datapoint for this view is the fact that I hit the range 10x more often than my really athletic friends, but constantly struggle more to maintain muscle memory of a good swing. These guys can go a year without picking up a club and shoot par. 

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35 minutes ago, Deej said:

I want Duke to make the 12 team playoff so we can laugh at aggy for making them better by hiring their coach away. 

With Manny Diaz as their HC? Unlikely, but I'll be pulling for Maalik.

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On 7/28/2024 at 10:28 AM, Newy25 said:


I don’t hold any ill will towards Murphy and I hope he does well at Duke but nothing we saw from him would suggest he’s going to be in the NFL. 

One of the smart reasons Murphy had for transferring to Duke is that it's a school with great outcomes. The connections he is making and the alumni pipeline is on another level to help him lead a highly successful (and maybe better) life if he doesn't make it to the NFL. 

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55 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

One of the smart reasons Murphy had for transferring to Duke is that it's a school with great outcomes. The connections he is making and the alumni pipeline is on another level to help him lead a highly successful (and maybe better) life if he doesn't make it to the NFL. 

THIS

Maalik definitely plays school and takes his academics seriously. He knows football isn't forever.

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1 hour ago, TreatyOak said:

One of the smart reasons Murphy had for transferring to Duke is that it's a school with great outcomes. The connections he is making and the alumni pipeline is on another level to help him lead a highly successful (and maybe better) life if he doesn't make it to the NFL. 

Definitely true.  And while I have my doubts about him as a QB, he is clearly a smart man with a very bright future.

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Definitely true.  And while I have my doubts about him as a QB, he is clearly a smart man with a very bright future.

Some stats about the wonderful sport many people dream to obtain: Wow on the average QB career lasting 30 games! 

    • Average career length
      The average NFL career lasts 3.3 years, which is shorter than other major sports leagues. The NFL is considered one of the most physically demanding sports leagues in the world, with players regularly exposed to hard hits and collisions. This leads to a high risk of injury, and many players are forced to retire early or miss significant time due to injuries. 
       
    • Positional differences
      Kickers have the longest average career at 4.4 years, while running backs have the shortest at 2.57 years. Quarterbacks also face one of the shortest average careers in the NFL, lasting roughly 30 games.
       
    • After retirement
      78% of players go broke within three years of retirement, and 15.7% of players file for bankruptcy within 12 years of leaving the league.

 

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The accuracy of an athlete is an interesting topic. Whether it’s a QB throwing deep patterns or a pitcher hitting 95, I’m of the strong opinion some guys are born with a level of athleticism accuracy and muscle memory that's inherently better than others.

My datapoint for this view is the fact that I hit the range 10x more often than my really athletic friends, but constantly struggle more to maintain muscle memory of a good swing. These guys can go a year without picking up a club and shoot par. 

I'm a competitive shooter and I've been, at times in some top national rankings. In my youth my fast twitch was insanely faster than average Joe. As I got older that slowed and the field improved.

I've been around some of the best shooters in the world and unique genetic abilities in thing like "See speed" which is eye alignment to both gun sights, target and ability to catch other items like shell ejection angles is unreal. 

I've had the fortune in life to be engaged in competition or training with premier athletes not just in shooting but in swimming, football, boxing, track and even racing. Beyond the pure physical aspects there are the unique genetics for which there is no replacement nor substitute. When you combine those aspects with drive, ambition, work ethic and "killer instincts" you get KD, Phelps, Nolan Ryan, Valenino Ross, and Brady. 

The rest of the world gets to sit back, watch and dream.

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I'm a competitive shooter and I've been, at times in some top national rankings. In my youth my fast twitch was insanely faster than average Joe. As I got older that slowed and the field improved.

I've been around some of the best shooters in the world and unique genetic abilities in thing like "See speed" which is eye alignment to both gun sights, target and ability to catch other items like shell ejection angles is unreal. 

I've had the fortune in life to be engaged in competition or training with premier athletes not just in shooting but in swimming, football, boxing, track and even racing. Beyond the pure physical aspects there are the unique genetics for which there is no replacement nor substitute. When you combine those aspects with drive, ambition, work ethic and "killer instincts" you get KD, Phelps, Nolan Ryan, Valenino Ross, and Brady. 

The rest of the world gets to sit back, watch and dream.

Imma calling you out pilgrim......

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On 4/23/2024 at 12:11 PM, closetojumping said:

Anyway, the guy with control in the low to mid 90's never got drafted in HS or college.

When you were in high school you knew a guy who could throw a mid-90s fastball and who could consistently hit the zone but who didn't get drafted in high school or college? Was he a crackhead? Did he go straight to the state pen? What kept him out of the league? Because it had to be something else. It wasn't that long ago that only about 10% of all MLB fastballs reached the mid-90s. Even last year only about 1 out of every 4 fastballs hit the mid-90s. Throwing in the 90s is pretty fucking rare. I mean, really, dwell on those numbers and ask yourself if you're you sure you didn't know a guy who threw in the low- to mid-80s with control.

Back on topic--I know it was Elon, but Maalik looked pretty good. I've got to wonder if some of those overthrows were the result of having to throw to a WR group whose fastest is slower than Texas's slowest.

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When you were in high school you knew a guy who could throw a mid-90s fastball and who could consistently hit the zone but who didn't get drafted in high school or college? Was he a crackhead? Did he go straight to the state pen? What kept him out of the league? Because it had to be something else. It wasn't that long ago that only about 10% of all MLB fastballs reached the mid-90s. Even last year only about 1 out of every 4 fastballs hit the mid-90s. Throwing in the 90s is pretty fucking rare. I mean, really, dwell on those numbers and ask yourself if you're you sure you didn't know a guy who threw in the low- to mid-80s with control.
Back on topic--I know it was Elon, but Maalik looked pretty good. I've got to wonder if some of those overthrows were the result of having to throw to a WR group whose fastest is slower than Texas's slowest.

My younger brother had a mid to low 90s fastball in college. He had pretty good control too. Turned down a 10th round offer to finish school.
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1 hour ago, AnotherLawyer said:

When you were in high school you knew a guy who could throw a mid-90s fastball and who could consistently hit the zone but who didn't get drafted in high school or college? Was he a crackhead? Did he go straight to the state pen? What kept him out of the league? Because it had to be something else. It wasn't that long ago that only about 10% of all MLB fastballs reached the mid-90s. Even last year only about 1 out of every 4 fastballs hit the mid-90s. Throwing in the 90s is pretty fucking rare. I mean, really, dwell on those numbers and ask yourself if you're you sure you didn't know a guy who threw in the low- to mid-80s with control.

Back on topic--I know it was Elon, but Maalik looked pretty good. I've got to wonder if some of those overthrows were the result of having to throw to a WR group whose fastest is slower than Texas's slowest.

I don’t know anything negative about the guy at the time. His name was Jeff Hampton. He played at Clear Lake and then LSU. Look him up. I do think he viewed himself as a football first guy back then and maybe that played a role. 

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He looked good last night.  His ability to get the ball there fast is amazing to watch.  His deep ball is still a thing of beauty.  He obviously still needs more experience and continued development but I think he will get drafted after starting for two years at Duke. 

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I'm a competitive shooter and I've been, at times in some top national rankings. In my youth my fast twitch was insanely faster than average Joe. As I got older that slowed and the field improved.
I've been around some of the best shooters in the world and unique genetic abilities in thing like "See speed" which is eye alignment to both gun sights, target and ability to catch other items like shell ejection angles is unreal. 
I've had the fortune in life to be engaged in competition or training with premier athletes not just in shooting but in swimming, football, boxing, track and even racing. Beyond the pure physical aspects there are the unique genetics for which there is no replacement nor substitute. When you combine those aspects with drive, ambition, work ethic and "killer instincts" you get KD, Phelps, Nolan Ryan, Valenino Ross, and Brady. 
The rest of the world gets to sit back, watch and dream.

I did “Cowboy Action Shooting” with the SASS organization for about a decade. My Lake Charles, LA group was fast putting lead on targets. Many times we’d have the local police/sheriff’s office out for a weekend shoot/fundraiser. You’d be surprised at how some people can operate a lever action rifle vs someone with an AR-15.

Colts vs Glocks too.

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15 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:


My younger brother had a mid to low 90s fastball in college. He had pretty good control too. Turned down a 10th round offer to finish school.

He got drafted in the 10th? Or was going to be drafted in the 10th and didn't sign so he could return? And then didn't get drafted when he exhausted his eligibility?

There weren't a whole lot of pitchers who threw in the mid-90s with control more than 30 years ago. Pitchers who could throw in the high 80s with consistent control were getting drafted back then. I'm not saying I don't believe you. I'm only saying that throwing in the 90s was a relative rarity then. Now, not so much. 

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