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Maalik Murphy unfucked Duke, who else needs a QB miracle?

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Dude. Did y'all watch the same game? Before he got hurt, Card was playing pretty well. Yes, a one legged Card isnt very good, but he still gutted us out to a lead with a minute and half left. Fucking

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Maalik plays school. Great move for this young man. I hope he slays it and gets drafted. 

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Napoleon

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34 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Michigan is going to need someone to buy some time until Underwood is ready to go. I think they’d want someone more mobile. 

I would think that EVERYONE would want someone more mobile. 

I fear that Maalik is chasing a payday at the expense of continued steady development with a look towards a long term NFL career.

USC

OHIO STATE

ALABAMA

TENNESSEE

FSU (?)

OLE MISS (?)

MIAMI (?)

Which school would make sense with an eye towards continued development and not just jumping at a payday?

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Pato del Muerto

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40 minutes ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Gonna need an employee contract or some sort of collective agreement to accomplish that.  Can't just limit people's movement and act as though they're employees without actually making them employees.  

Pretty sure employees are allowed to quit and work elsewhere at their pleasure. 

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7 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Pretty sure employees are allowed to quit and work elsewhere at their pleasure. 

Obviously with some sort of collective agreement or contract schools would now be allowed work in something that restricted movement or playing for another school if they didn't fulfill their contract.  Have you been paying attention to what's happened to the NCAA in courts over the last 5 to 7 years? There's a reason there aren't any rules concerning the wild movement we see right now.  

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9 minutes ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Obviously with some sort of collective agreement or contract schools would now be allowed work in something that restricted movement or playing for another school if they didn't fulfill their contract.  Have you been paying attention to what's happened to the NCAA in courts over the last 5 to 7 years? There's a reason there aren't any rules concerning the wild movement we see right now.  

I dunno, the whole amateurism scheme was tossed as a restraint of trade/antitrust violation.  And a non-compete is a classic restraint of trade that the FTC has now banned nationwide.

It's kind of interesting. SCOTUS seems to be all-in on corporatism, yet the NCAA is analogous to a business corporation.

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4 hours ago, linux said:

I think one ran out of eligibility.

Is that possible anymore?  It’s an interesting proposition. Most, if not all, of the NCAA’s regs are irrelevant now. They will lose just about any challenge that an athlete brings. It’s one thing for the schools to voluntarily contractually limit themselves through association. It’s quite another for them to arbitrarily limit any individual athlete’s earning power, when the athlete himself didn’t agree to it. 

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1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

This is surprising. Duke had a nice W-L season but let's be honest, Maalik was fine at best. 

If he is getting looks/promises from bigger programs to start next year, that's great and I'm happy for him. But it's curious. 

 

I am not sure what he is thinking. QBR, not the best stat, had him the 11th best starter in the ACC and QB rating, even worse stat, had him at 11th also. The 12 ints are going to have people questioning his ability to start (4 in the last 2 games).

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9 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

This is surprising. Duke had a nice W-L season but let's be honest, Maalik was fine at best. 

If he is getting looks/promises from bigger programs to start next year, that's great and I'm happy for him. But it's curious. 

Same. I’m really happy Maalik found success as a starter after his time at Texas. But I watched a couple Duke games this season, and “fine” is about how I would describe what I saw.

I don’t think he’d be a starter at a school like Oregon. But what the fuck do I know.

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3 minutes ago, Longboard Horn said:

I could possibly see Maalik going to Oregon since this is Dillon's last eligible season. 

That would be absolutely shocking. He did nothing at Duke this year to deserve that kind of job. 

If he gets good NIL and a guaranteed starting position at a better program than Duke, it just shows how desperate some programs are right now. 

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15 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

This is surprising. Duke had a nice W-L season but let's be honest, Maalik was fine at best. 

If he is getting looks/promises from bigger programs to start next year, that's great and I'm happy for him. But it's curious. 

 

If he can make himself and his family a decent amount in NIL dollars before a suspect NFL draft where he "might" get a shot - good on him.  

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5 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

If he can make himself and his family a decent amount in NIL dollars before a suspect NFL draft where he "might" get a shot - good on him.  

Sure. But it looks like he was guaranteed to start at Duke again next year. Surprising if a bigger program would make that promise. Maybe Duke's NIL situation is bad, I don't know. But something kinda stinks here. Guess we'll find out soon enough. 

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Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

Sure. But it looks like he was guaranteed to start at Duke again next year. Surprising if a bigger program would make that promise. Maybe Duke's NIL situation is bad, I don't know. But something kinda stinks here. Guess we'll find out soon enough. 

Guessing Duke spends all their cheddar on basketball, but who knows.  

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A little off, other than a NIL payday. I love Maalik and what he did for us and with us, and he has always seemed like a great young man.

However, I gotta agree with the assessment of his play as "fine" rather than "great". He strikes me as more like Tyrone than like Vince. I don't know that a year at Oregon or wherever would provide a big boost to his draft stock, but take it for what it's worth. Me, I believe I'd rather get another 9-3 year and a Duke diploma.

What makes sense to me is that he's been to tamperville and has a guaranteed NIL payday somewhere. I reckon we'll see.

Still... I wish him the best possible outcome, and I still appreciate his time at Texas. 

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Talking out off my ass is something of a hobby of mine on here, so I’ll do so again now. 
 

Duke seems like the kind of place that, when a player asks about NIL, they start talking about how the value of a Duke education is worth more than any NIL.  Maybe basketball is different because they know you have to pay to get talent there. 
 

so it wouldn’t surprise me if any of their athletes that have opportunity elsewhere, take it. 

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1 hour ago, nnm said:

Is that possible anymore?  It’s an interesting proposition. Most, if not all, of the NCAA’s regs are irrelevant now. They will lose just about any challenge that an athlete brings. It’s one thing for the schools to voluntarily contractually limit themselves through association. It’s quite another for them to arbitrarily limit any individual athlete’s earning power, when the athlete himself didn’t agree to it. 

Pavia recently lost one about extending his eligibility, don't ask me how anybody could have lost any case with the NCAA but he did

https://vanderbilthustler.com/2024/11/12/breaking-judge-denies-diego-pavia-temporary-restraining-order-against-ncaa-eligibility-rules/

That said who knows if he tries again in a  different way

 

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9 minutes ago, linux said:

Pavia recently lost one about extending his eligibility, don't ask me how anybody could have lost any case with the NCAA but he did

https://vanderbilthustler.com/2024/11/12/breaking-judge-denies-diego-pavia-temporary-restraining-order-against-ncaa-eligibility-rules/

That said who knows if he tries again in a  different way

 

That was only an ex parte TRO. Meaning that the judge decided that he was not going to enter an order against the NCAA without hearing the NCAA’s side.
 

They had the hearing on that a few days ago, in which both sides got to present their arguments for why they will ultimately win the case. The judge hasn’t yet ruled on that. 
 

If the judge rules in Pavia’s favor in this injunction hearing, he will have necessarily concluded that Pavia is likely to succeed on the merits. If that comes, then any restriction on an individual athlete is likely unsustainable. 

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1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

I am not sure what he is thinking. QBR, not the best stat, had him the 11th best starter in the ACC and QB rating, even worse stat, had him at 11th also. The 12 ints are going to have people questioning his ability to start (4 in the last 2 games).

Not sure either. He’s serviceable but he’s not getting a better opportunity. I have heard anecdotes that OC is trying to improve QB at Duke. 

1 hour ago, Longboard Horn said:

I could possibly see Maalik going to Oregon since this is Dillon's last eligible season. 

Zero chance

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11 hours ago, Napoleon said:

I fear that Maalik is chasing a payday at the expense of continued steady development with a look towards a long term NFL career.

This is... not accurate.

Maalik has always had NFL talent, but what he needed more than anything were in-game snaps. Experience. Time spent in live game situations reading the defense and making throws. He wasn't going to get that here while riding pine behind two 5-star QBs, which is why he's left.

Now he's had a full season of being The Guy, and if you watched, you can see the growth.

But now he's in his money season. He needs exposure. He needs scouts to see him do the things he did at Duke for a team that actually gets prime time broadcasts.

And NIL money, too. It's nice to have.

And there's going to be mutual interest. There's plenty of teams that are very good that don't have a QB better than he is. He knows that. They know that. You and I know that. They know that he knows, and he knows that they know he knows. We know that Henry knows, and Henry knows we know it. We're a very knowledgeable fandom.

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