Maalik Murphy unfucked Duke, works his next miracle at Oregon State

[Wulaw Horn 19,571]

2 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Most of you think QE walks on water and it’s sad

Quinn Ewers is a really good college QB that probably would be heiman level with enough seasoning, but is playing like an 8 this year. That’s the best QB okay we’ve had since junior year Sam. 
what the fuck is the point here?

[ChickenSandwich 9,930]

A week late, but time to change the thread title. 

[DixonHur 11,954]

2 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

Wut 

MM has a better arm than Ewers, he just needs to improve his accuracy and situational awareness.  Those are coachable, a rocket arm is not.

[Irish Wrist Watch 1,473]

OU just lost. They ain't that good, folks.

[ChickenSandwich 9,930]

Just now, DixonHur said:

MM has a better arm than Ewers, he just needs to improve his accuracy and situational awareness.  Those are coachable, a rocket arm is not.

Throwing harder does not equal a better arm. His accuracy is shit. His deep ball throws are the same as major Applewhite and have nothing to do with arm strength 

[Irish Wrist Watch 1,473]

Just now, DixonHur said:

MM has a better arm than Ewers, he just needs to improve his accuracy and situational awareness.  Those are coachable, a rocket arm is not.

His arm isn't anywhere near Ewers'. Sorry. Ewers, by and large, had an amazing year passing, even though he hasn't had that many starts. I kind of expect to see the exact same thing from Manning. Both, highly, highly sought after HS QBs

[Slacks 7,039]

2 hours ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

But a kid playing div 2-aa california football is ready to manage a p5 game 7 games into the season?

Anybody who parrots the "highschool quality" of arch might want to take a look at where maalik played.

Where was Malik last year? 

[WinningIsHard 4,171]

Just now, DixonHur said:

MM has a better arm than Ewers, he just needs to improve his accuracy and situational awareness.  Those are coachable, a rocket arm is not.

Tossing a pick 6 on a screen pass that went to complete shit right away when you have a rocket arm is not coachable. That’s mental, he’s fucked. His arm is better by how much? Quinn throws bb’s at all sorts of angles, he’s also somewhat mobile and he doesn’t get rattled. 

[formermav43 4,607]

9 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

If you think a Louisiana private school 2A program’s base offense is similar to Sarkisian’s please just watch tennis instead

If you keep making this nonsensical argument, maybe eventually you’ll be right.

Or maybe you’ll sober up tomorrow and realize how dumb it is.

[Slacks 7,039]

2 hours ago, Codaxx said:

The one thing for Arch is he essentially ran Sark’s offense in High school, so it isn’t going to be completely foreign to him 

That is one thing. 

[StassneyHorn 6,759]

9 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Most of them remember 2010-2020 

I can show ehlinger quotes from his last game here. Point being it’s MM’s second start and this forum is talking about him like he’s fucking Stephen Garcia.

Edited November 4, 2023 by StassneyHorn

[DixonHur 11,954]

Just now, Irish Wrist Watch said:

His arm isn't anywhere near Ewers'. Sorry. Ewers, by and large, had an amazing year passing, even though he hasn't had that many starts. I kind of expect to see the exact same thing from Manning. Both, highly, highly sought after HS QBs

My bad, I must have been watching someone else float ducks 5 yards behind Worthy earlier in the year.

[formermav43 4,607]

Just now, DixonHur said:

My bad, I must have been watching someone else float ducks 5 yards behind Worthy earlier in the year.

Were you watching him short hop it today?

[Irish Wrist Watch 1,473]

Ewers has a quick release I don't think you can coach, and his accuracy on short and intermediate passes is phenomenal. That's what we'll see from Manning - at least with a little seasoning - starting this week.

[StassneyHorn 6,759]

3 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

If you keep making this nonsensical argument, maybe eventually you’ll be right.

Or maybe you’ll sober up tomorrow and realize how dumb it is.

I’m not the dumb mf’er who said it or thinks his high school coach was the same one who coached his relatives

1 minute ago, formermav43 said:

Were you watching him short hop it today?

One time

[Longhornlove 5,175]

Just now, formermav43 said:

Were you watching him short hop it today?

LOL, short hop? some of those didn't even make it to the receiver  after bouncing and rolling.

[Hagbard Celine 11,188]

i love maalik

@immamac please relabel this thread

throwing a screen to an offensive lineman is not our standard

thread title can be anything

[Hank_Hill 19,903]

Just now, StassneyHorn said:

I can show ehlinger quotes from his last game here. Point being it’s MM’s second start and this forum is talking about him like he’s fucking a Stephen Garcia.

He looked like dog shit in his second start. Not sure why people commenting on that isn’t warranted. I’m sure we all hope for improvement. But a dog shit performance is a dog shit performance. Ewers had his god awful moments last year too.

[Slacks 7,039]

2 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

Yep and as cliche as it may be, Arch grew up in that family so I expect football IQ to be his strength at this point. I don’t think he puts the ball at risk like Murphy has been doing.

How were they as true freshmen? 

We always want to see the new FRHS QB. It never fails... And when we do the FRHS sucks that season. Freshman are usually freshman. 

[Codaxx 6,238]

14 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

Maalik shouln't even be in the conversation at this point. Either Quinn comes back, or Sark gets Manning started on his rise to fame and fortune. Anything less is a bit of a slap in the face to Manning. There is NO as in ZERO reasons not to give him his shot. Ewers could well come back next week and then get injured again the week after. The time to prepare for a NATTY is now, this fucking week.

It’s a lot to ask from a freshman to start his first game on the road. I doubt Sark makes a change this week 

[MissingInAction 25,539]

Should not starts.

Jfc

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5,656]

15 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

If you think a Louisiana private school 2A program’s base offense is similar to Sarkisian’s please just watch tennis instead

Its funny how many people chirp about louisiana private school 2a but never brings up that we are playing a california private school 2aa qb.

[kevwun 16,429]

1 minute ago, StassneyHorn said:

I’m not the dumb mf’er who said it or thinks his high school coach was the same one who coached his relatives

One time

No, you’re the dumb mfer who thinks 3 different Mannings have been running the wing t at Newman.

[formermav43 4,607]

Just now, StassneyHorn said:

I’m not the dumb mf’er who said it or thinks his high school coach was the same one who coached his relatives

No, you’re the idiot who mistakes scheme for needless complexity. You probably got your football knowledge from The Waterboy and think Sark wakes around with a magic notebook where he draws up plays. 

 

 

[Lou Loomis 930]

From the stands it looked like Cook fell down/got shoved on MM’s first INT, making the the pass look way shittier than it was.

The second one was horrible. He has to learn to holster that or throw it away. 
 

He’s not totally terrible, though. Scary and dangerous at times, but capable of production. And winning. The “we won in spite of Maalik” take is senseless.

 

 

[SarkAfterDark 1,731]

It’s hard for me to understand how some of you are Arch fanboys already despite not seeing him take a meaningful college snap in his career. Last time we saw him he was obviously behind the other QBs in regards to development.

MM has plenty to work on, mainly knowing when to just eat the football. But I guess some of you won’t believe Arch is not ready yet until he implodes on the field. Sark isn’t going to let that happen and the Mannings would prefer that not happen. If Arch was that guy already he would be playing, not sure why it's so hard for some of you to understand there is a reason he hasn't seen the field yet.

 

Also some of you clearly don't remember the freshman seasons of both Ehlinger and Ewers.

Edited November 4, 2023 by SarkAfterDark

[StassneyHorn 6,759]

11 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Quinn Ewers is a really good college QB that probably would be heiman level with enough seasoning, but is playing like an 8 this year. That’s the best QB okay we’ve had since junior year Sam. 
what the fuck is the point here?

The point here is it is game fucking 2 as a RS FR with MM you want him to leave the program you piece of shit

[closetohumping 17,802]

11 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

MM has a better arm than Ewers, he just needs to improve his accuracy and situational awareness.  Those are coachable, a rocket arm is not.

Don’t need a rocket arm and Ewers has a cannon as well.  Arch’s arm is plenty strong.  Not sure why Murphy gets the benefit of the doubt but the other two don’t. 

[Red Five 41,685]

From the stands it looked like Cook fell down/got shoved on MM’s first INT, making the the pass look way shittier than it was.
The second one was horrible. He has to learn to holster that or throw it away. 
 
He’s not totally terrible, though. Scary and dangerous at times, but capable of production. And winning. The “we won in spite of Maalik” take is senseless.

 
 

How about “we won in spite of pretty horrendous QB play for 80% of the game”?

[TexEx15 17,919]

3 minutes ago, Slacks said:

How were they as true freshmen? 

We always want to see the new FRHS QB. It never fails... And when we do the FRHS sucks that season. Freshman are usually freshman. 

Fair point but the mentorship Arch got came from Super Bowl winning QBs not Peyton and Eli the freshmen.

[StassneyHorn 6,759]

3 minutes ago, kevwun said:

No, you’re the dumb mfer who thinks 3 different Mannings have been running the wing t at Newman.

Is it the same coach who coached the hall of famers? In high school? Not college or pro. Sit on a fat dildo and spin you dumbass. Attributing a Hs coach to anyone’s hall of fame career is ducking stupid.

Edited November 4, 2023 by StassneyHorn

[Hank_Hill 19,903]

Agreed we aren’t and shouldn’t see Arch at this point. We’ll just have to watch MM either implode or improve next week and then hopefully never again this season with Ewers back.

[StassneyHorn 6,759]

5 minutes ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

Its funny how many people chirp about louisiana private school 2a but never brings up that we are playing a california private school 2aa qb.

It’s incredibly different actually

[Wulaw Horn 19,571]

3 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

The point here is it is game fucking 2 as a RS FR with MM you want him to leave the program you piece of shit

Not only are you a cunt but you are also a fucking idiot. 
like literally stupid. Not someone who has bad takes or opinions but someone with a double digit IQ. 

Edited November 4, 2023 by Wulaw Horn

[hookem48 4,808]

3 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

It’s hard for me to understand how some of you are Arch fanboys already despite not seeing him take a meaningful college snap in his career. Last time we saw him he was obviously behind the other QBs in regards to development.

MM has plenty to work on, mainly knowing when to just eat the football. But I guess some of you won’t believe Arch is not ready yet until he implodes on the field. Sark isn’t going to let that happen and the Mannings would prefer that not happen. If Arch was that guy already he would be playing, not sure why it's so hard for some of you to understand there is a reason he hasn't seen the field yet.

did you post the same thing about MM fanboys before his first snap?

[StassneyHorn 6,759]

3 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

The point here is it is game fucking 2 as a RS FR with MM you want him to leave the program you piece of shit

Laugh it up fuckface @Wulaw Horn

Edited November 4, 2023 by StassneyHorn

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5,656]

Just now, StassneyHorn said:

It’s incredibly different actually

No its not.

[StassneyHorn 6,759]

1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Not only are you a cunt but you are also a fucking idiot. 

How? Those were your words

[Hank_Hill 19,903]

Just now, hookem48 said:

did you post the same thing about MM fanboys before his first snap?

Yea but they had 5 REALLY hard throws in the spring game to refer to, so…

[closetohumping 17,802]

3 hours ago, Vermin said:

Does he have religious beliefs against running? I've never seen a healthy college QB refuse to run...ever.

Probably not related but I think VY in year 2 with fuck face fisher made it a point not to run. Wanted to prove he was more than a mobile qb.  Same with Russ last year

[StassneyHorn 6,759]

1 minute ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

No its not.

Yes it is

Some of you were backup CB in high school and it shows

Edited November 4, 2023 by StassneyHorn

[Atticus 4,202]

Every time MM threw the ball after the first quarter was cringe-inducing. One in particular that stood out was him rolling to his right with limited to no pressure, then throwing across his body to the middle of the field. He completed it, but holy shit. Do these QB coaches not work to improve football awareness/IQ? At times, he looked like he'd never even played the position before 

[Lou Loomis 930]

Just now, Red Five said:

How about “we won in spite of pretty horrendous QB play for 80% of the game”?

I’ll go 55%. I think he can still learn from mistakes/ improve enough to keep things going until Quinn returns. 

[ChickenSandwich 9,930]

11 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

I’m not the dumb mf’er who said it or thinks his high school coach was the same one who coached his relatives

One time

Yeah, the others were wide or behind by 2 yards otherwise. See worthy in the second half. 
 

i’m shocked he is a “thrower of footballs”. Most plays look like a HB pass. 

[mwaadeeb 1,363]

23 minutes ago, Irish Wrist Watch said:

Maalik shouln't even be in the conversation at this point. Either Quinn comes back, or Sark gets Manning started on his rise to fame and fortune. Anything less is a bit of a slap in the face to Manning. There is NO as in ZERO reasons not to give him his shot. Ewers could well come back next week and then get injured again the week after. The time to prepare for a NATTY is now, this fucking week.

You continue to be wrong. If Arch starts and stinks it up you've fucked them both up The only way Arch plays is if Maalik comes out cold and throws a few picks next week, or we have the game well in hand. 

[DixonHur 11,954]

3 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Agreed we aren’t and shouldn’t see Arch at this point. We’ll just have to watch MM either implode or improve next week and then hopefully never again this season with Ewers back.

This is where I am.  I think MM looked better than some posters here, but don't take that for me thinking he is better than Ewers at this point.  But, I do think we have seen the peak Ewers.  Murphy has the physical tools to be better than Ewers, but he's not even close at this point.   

[Dbeasy 15,554]

Sark made an interesting comment on the post game interview. He said people call for a player to be replaced, but what do you do if the backup player is worse? I thought that was an interesting comment, both positively and negatively. 

[Wulaw Horn 19,571]

1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

This is where I am.  I think MM looked better than some posters here, but don't take that for me thinking he is better than Ewers at this point.  But, I do think we have seen the peak Ewers.  Murphy has the physical tools to be better than Ewers, but he's not even close at this point.   

MM isn’t better than Ewers?  You don’t say. 

Edited November 4, 2023 by Wulaw Horn

[Hermanator 7,591]

3 hours ago, Jewish Wang said:

You called for it last week and challenged me aggressively, saying MM was better than QE. I accepted. Everyone saw. You called @immamacfor it to be “sanctioned”. I’m not sure why that’s necessary. But if you want to welch, I’m fine with that. It’s $200. I don’t care. But, you’re welching 

 

2 hours ago, ztejas said:

I mean, first of all, you're a fucking dumbass. Of the highest order. You're a dick-ass poster that doesn't move shit.

Second of all, yes, I was hammered and threw a # out there. 

Third of all, this is the internet. There's no way for you to realistically hold me accountable without getting the owner of the site involved. 

I @ed him. He didn't respond. That's that. 

I would happily pay you $200 if some argeement was established but there was none. 

Sucks to suck. 

 

2 hours ago, lilMAC25 said:

100% a welch. Bet was agreed upon.

 

 

ugly look for you.

 

 

you should be PMing and asking the guy for his PP or Venmo.

Yep. Dude made a bet on Surly. Dude is now welching. 

I'd get Imma involved, and if I was Imma it would be an automatic 6 month or 1 year IP ban for anyone who welches on a bet made here. 

Should be a long ban for that. 

[WinningIsHard 4,171]

Sam didn’t have near the roster to work with that Malik does and he also had to listen to coach fuck face not call him by his first name until he was worthy of that honor. Malik played like dog shit, some stuff can be fixed and some stuff is just him being a bad qb. It’s also worth noting that he’s injured, so maybe that’s hampering his decision making somehow. We are who we are at this point, I hope he continues to get better and we shit stomp tcu. I’m a fan of Texas, sark and Malik are longhorns, ergo I want them to be successful. 8-1 feels fucking good surly!!!!