Nancy Pelosi is a badass MF and I want her to be Speaker

[David Dennison 18935]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

OK cool so what were they supposed to do differently that would have won them the fight over the $4.6B legislation?

Convince other members that they were right. You know. Politics. Their job.

[bad_teammate 13218]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Convince other members that they were right. You know. Politics. Their job.

OK so you've got absolutely nothing specific, yes?

[David Dennison 18935]

2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

OK so you've got absolutely nothing specific, yes?

Maybe give them a handjob.

[swraith 347]

Pelosi needs to be working on getting a deal done the budget and debt ceiling.  She needs a deal the more progressive side of the party can be happy with.

 

Bloomberg Debt Ceiling

[bad_teammate 13218]

I love Eli Valley

 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

11 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I love Eli Valley

 

Now that's art.

[DixonHur 11342]

DD, looks like Pelosi has been challenged  Articles of Impeachment filed.  Bet Nancy is pissed.

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[David Dennison 18935]

1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

DD, looks like Pelosi has been challenged  Articles of Impeachment filed.  Bet Nancy is pissed.

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Not the first time. They'll probably die again.

 

[DixonHur 11342]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Not the first time. They'll probably die again.

 

Not a chance after those racist tweets.  This is a much more charged climate that before, and the media will be all over it.  Nancy's not in a position to hide from this one. IMO

[David Dennison 18935]

Just now, DixonHur said:

Not a chance after those racist tweets.  This is a much more charged climate that before, and the media will be all over it.  Nancy's not in a position to hide from this one. IMO

We'll see. He's done this twice before. Both failed.

[DixonHur 11342]

14 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

We'll see. He's done this twice before. Both failed.

Oh, I fully expect it to fail.  I'm just saying that it's going to force her to do something about it in a much more public way. 

And it could have major repercussions within the caucus because this time the Articles specifically mention racism.  She's not going to be able to ignore a black member of Congress on that topic without pissing off a lot of people.

[Guest Lobo]

hey, bad_teammate...can I villify Rep. Doug Collins and see about blocking some of his campaign donations or will that be too in line with your brilliant analysis of Bill Weld business?  You fucking imbecile.  

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1 hour ago, DixonHur said:

Oh, I fully expect it to fail.  I'm just saying that it's going to force her to do something about it in a much more public way.  

And it could have major repercussions within the caucus because this time the Articles specifically mention racism.  She's not going to be able to ignore a black member of Congress on that topic without pissing off a lot of people.

Yes she will. She navigated around repeated calls to withdrawal from Iraq by just making negative comments about Bush without ever using her caucus to end the war. Most people will just assume she has a plan in place when in reality she ain't going to do shit. She knows how to play the game.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

It’s ultimately on Nadler to begin the impeachment proceedings in the House Judiciary Committee.   Outside of that it’s just theater and posturing.

[F250 28788]

3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s ultimately on Nadler to begin the impeachment proceedings in the House Judiciary Committee.  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Well no, Pelosi has order the code red...er ah orange.

[Fozzz 152]

Much worse than her stupid resolution, please keep in mind that Nancy is a scumbag who believes the government should be permitted to punish you for protesting apartheid.  

 

 

[David Dennison 18935]

1 hour ago, Fozzz said:

Much worse than her stupid resolution, please keep in mind that Nancy is a scumbag who believes the government should be permitted to punish you for protesting apartheid.  RE

 

What's the punishment?

[David Dennison 18935]

Al Green's resolution is going nowhere.

Shocking.

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2 hours ago, Fozzz said:

Much worse than her stupid resolution, please keep in mind that Nancy is a scumbag who believes the government should be permitted to punish you for protesting apartheid.  

 

 

Ilhan Omar is probably giving Nancy Pelosi heartburn. Kudos to her for forcing Democrats to take a stance on this matter.

 

[DixonHur 11342]

39 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Al Green's resolution is going nowhere.

Shocking.

At least he was able to get them on record, but once again, the Dems show themselves as the gutless saps they've always been.  They're like the kid we all knew on the playground that continuously gets bullied but refuses to punch back.  Pitiful. 

[DixonHur 11342]

After Trump's performance tonight, I look forward to seeing how Aunt Nancy plans to capitulate yet again tomorrow.  

I expect nothing less than a severely furrowed brow 

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[Captainant 27682]

18 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I expect nothing less than a severely furrowed brow 

we like to call it "the McCain"

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

51 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

After Trump's performance tonight, I look forward to seeing how Aunt Nancy plans to capitulate yet again tomorrow. 

“We are here to focus on our “for the people” agenda which is what we were elected to do.  We are going to pass these bills to raise the minimum wage and protect healthcare for Americans despite the fact all this legislation will be DOA in Mitch McConnell’s grave yard.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[David Dennison 18935]

Today is one of those days that I don't think they're going to impeach him.

 

[retread 2951]

She talks a tough game every now and then. And then she takes her geritol and has a brandy nightcap during Wheel of Fortune.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Today is one of those days that I don't think they're going to impeach him.

They have to start the impeachment inquiry.  It might be a year from now but they can’t politically escape starting the process.  

If they don’t, it gives Trump an enormous talking point: 

“The fake Russia witch hunt hoax was obviously bullshit the entire time, otherwise they would have impeached me!”

No collusion! No obstruction!  Angry democrats! 

(Pours gasoline all over body, lights match)

[retread 2951]

Heard part of her press conference today. She was having trouble getting the words out.  I'm not sure she or Nadler has the stones to start the inquiry.

[David Dennison 18935]

3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

They have to start the impeachment inquiry.  It might be a year from now but they can’t politically escape starting the process.  

If they don’t, it gives Trump an enormous talking point: 

“The fake Russia witch hunt hoax was obviously bullshit the entire time, otherwise they would have impeached me!”

No collusion! No obstruction!  Angry democrats! 

(Pours gasoline all over body, lights match)

He'll have a talking point no matter what. He's already using today's vote as a talking point, so that doesn't matter.

I just have this feeling that she's not going to green light it until she has the votes and she does not have the votes yet.

I might change my mind tomorrow.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Mueller’s testimony will probably dictate their move and timing on impeachment.  

IMO they should have saved Mueller until after starting an impeachment inquiry.  His testimony would have been more influential and drawn a wider audience under the impeachment umbrella.

[DixonHur 11342]

She's worse that the GOP.  At least they have a purely partisan reason to defend and enable him.  She's just doing it because she's either too weak, or eating at the trough too.

[David Dennison 18935]

Just now, DixonHur said:

She's worse that the GOP.  At least they have a purely partisan reason to defend and enable him.  She's just doing it because she's either too weak, or eating at the trough too.

She honestly believes she's making the right call politically. She sees no benefit in impeaching Donald Trump and having him win in the Senate trial. She sees only downside.

[DixonHur 11342]

Then she might want to buy some new glasses.  I don't know her line for impeachment, but if Donald hasn't crossed it yet...then we all might as well just pack up and go back to our ancestral homes.

The only way the Dems lose in 2020 is if they fail to open impeachment hearings. Period.

Their voters will feel dejected and unmotivated to vote, because what's the difference?

 

[EuroHorn 3265]

So Nancy is a badass MF and we want her to be speaker?

[suddenly shaggy 929]

She also sees no benefit in shaping the narrative that the Senate is a bunch of corrupt shitbags that will excuse any crime Trump commits, but nonetheless the House will do their Constitutional duty and impeach the criminal currently occupying the White House. That's a winning message for Democrats, but their leadership is a bunch of risk-adverse cowards. 

[David Dennison 18935]

2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Then she might want to buy some new glasses.  I don't know her line for impeachment, but if Donald hasn't crossed it yet...then we all might as well just pack up and go back to our ancestral homes.

The only way the Dems lose in 2020 is if they fail to open impeachment hearings. Period.

Their voters will feel dejected and unmotivated to vote, because what's the difference?

The entire Democratic leadership in the House disagrees with your take on the politics of 2020. 

That's where we are.

[DigglerontheHoof 21204]

Nancy and the Dems are fucking worthless.

One party with no morals and the other with no balls.  

‘Murica 

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10 hours ago, DixonHur said:

Then she might want to buy some new glasses.  I don't know her line for impeachment, but if Donald hasn't crossed it yet...then we all might as well just pack up and go back to our ancestral homes.

The only way the Dems lose in 2020 is if they fail to open impeachment hearings. Period.

Their voters will feel dejected and unmotivated to vote, because what's the difference?

Yep. Any president in our lifetimes would have been impeached after Comey was fired imo.

If not then, they would have been imipeached the day after they got their hands on the Mueller report. Barr would have been impeached as well for his treachery.

[RDCanecutter 26454]

10 hours ago, DixonHur said:

...then we all might as well just pack up and go back to our ancestral homes.

Oh hell-- the one good catfish place in my hometown exploded already. Like, decades of grease on the kitchen walls caught fire. Revenge of the Ancient Catfish.

[DixonHur 11342]

13 hours ago, David Dennison said:

The entire Democratic leadership in the House disagrees with your take on the politics of 2020. 

The dem leadership disagreed with my take in 2016 too, and you see where that got us.

 

3 hours ago, retread said:

If not then...

This has been a reoccurring theme... dems are constantly talking tough and drawing lines in the sand only to watch the line crossed, so they can back up, and draw a new line.  But apparently the leadership would have us believe they aren't retreating, they're just advancing to the rear. Fuck'em.

We deserve Donald J Trump...#4MoreYears

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

On 7/14/2019 at 2:26 PM, David Dennison said:

They aren't.

Uhh huh.... yeah

[David Dennison 18935]

5 hours ago, retread said:

Yep. Any president in our lifetimes would have been impeached after Comey was fired imo.

If not then, they would have been imipeached the day after they got their hands on the Mueller report. Barr would have been impeached as well for his treachery.

And both men would have remained in office.

We'd be in the same place.

That's how leadership sees it. They aren't far off the mark.

[retread 2951]

I don't agree. Receiving help from the Russkies, obstructing the resultant investigation, and, as an aside, pretending that Russian interference never happened (Helsinki) would have resulted in removal of any recent president.

[DixonHur 11342]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

And both men would have remained in office.

We'd be in the same place.

That's how leadership sees it. They aren't far off the mark.

OK, DD, obviously you think the "strategy" the dem leadership is employing is the best way forward. 

Can you enlighten the rest of us...what the hell is the strategy?

Because from the outside it looks like they are just content to do nothing...which isn't really a strategy.

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[David Dennison 18935]

4 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

OK, DD, obviously you think the "strategy" the dem leadership is employing is the best way forward. 

Can you enlighten the rest of us...what the hell is the strategy?

Because from the outside it looks like they are just content to do nothing...which isn't really a strategy.

I do not think it is the best way forward. I favor impeachment.

I understand why they think its impotent to impeach a president to no effect. It looks incredibly weak.

[DixonHur 11342]

10 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I do not think it is the best way forward. I favor impeachment.

I understand why they think its impotent to impeach a president to no effect. It looks incredibly weak.

This is where you and I have a fundamental disagreement.  If you know what you're doing, a GOP blocked impeachment is a great advantage.  

The talking points write themselves and those outside the base who oppose Trump will be more energized to vote.  Doing noting is a defeatist strategy.  As we've mentioned earlier, playing not to lose is a good way to insure losing.

[Fozzz 152]

lol fucking disgrace

 

 

[retread 2951]

11 four-day work weeks left for the House in 2019.

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[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

They need to start calling him a fascist instead of a racist.  

Get Trump to say, “I’m not a fascist.” with a follow up question of “who are your favorite fascists?”