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16 minutes ago, Smax said:

healthcare, immigration, taxes to start. She believes the government is the answer to all of our problems, I believe they are the cause of many of them, I know its hard for some on the left to grasp that roughly half the country disagrees with their policies, but they do. So stop throwing our the racists, misogynistic claims when someone disagrees with you

 

Answer me this: why do socialist programs work in countries like Denmark and Norway and Sweden?

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26 minutes ago, Smax said:

healthcare, immigration, taxes to start. She believes the government is the answer to all of our problems, I believe they are the cause of many of them, I know its hard for some on the left to grasp that roughly half the country disagrees with their policies, but they do. So stop throwing our the racists, misogynistic claims when someone disagrees with you

 

So, you hate her because she's a standard Democrat?  Is there any other reason?

I promise you her position on health care is more popular than Paul Ryan's but there seems to be something about Nancy Pelosi that triggers the Right.

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8 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

So, you hate her because she's a standard Democrat?  Is there any other reason?

I promise you her position on health care is more popular than Paul Ryan's but there seems to be something about Nancy Pelosi that triggers the Right.

uh ya, you're finally getting it, I'm not a democrat......

"triggered"? thats cute wrong but cute, if you want to see triggered in action, just look inward at the lefts reaction to everything trump, its so bad it even has its own name, trump derangement syndrome

justin beiber is popular too does that mean hes makes great music? on serious note telling people that their problems (true or not) are because of someone else and you plan to give them free money to help them, is going to be popular among the lower class

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1 hour ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Why is the homogenous part important?

Less dead weight.  True borders.  Higher participation rate in society. 

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On 6/9/2018 at 12:54 AM, F250 said:

I didn't say I disagree with her statement. I said I don't care for her, I don't like her politics. She is a liberal Representative from San Francisco, I am a Libertarian from Texas, there are more than a few things about her I disagree with politically. Personally, I dislike Trump, Republicans and conservativism but a Democrat would at least have to be a champion of civil liberties to get my vote.

There was a time when Pelosi had the power to use her caucus to influence the withdrawal of troops in the war in Iraq. As I recall, Murtha called for a withdrawal around '05/'06 but Pelosi quashed that shit. Instead she took pot shots at Bush administration from the sidelines without ever using her power to stop it. She also had an opportunity to fight warrantless wire taps, Gitmo and the Patriot Act but failed to do so.

As I said, I am not a fan.

 

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Four years to the day after standing on the deck of an aircraft carrier and declaring "major combat operations" in Iraq were over, President Bush on Tuesday vetoed a war-spending bill that calls for the start of a withdrawal of American combat troops from the conflict.

"It makes no sense to tell the enemy when you plan to start withdrawing. All the terrorists would have to do is mark their calendars. ... Setting a deadline for withdrawal is setting a date for failure, and that would be irresponsible," Bush said in a televised address after the veto.

"I recognize that many Democrats saw this bill as an opportunity to make a political statement about their opposition to the war," Bush said. "They've sent their message, and now it is time to put politics behind us and support our troops with the funds they need." (Watch Bush explain why he vetoed the bill Video)

The president invited the congressional leadership to the White House on Wednesday to discuss a compromise.

After the speech, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, said the ball was now in Bush's court.

"Now he has an obligation to explain his plan to responsibly end this war," Reid said.

"If the president thinks [that] by vetoing this bill he'll stop us from working to change the direction of the war in Iraq, he is mistaken," Reid added.

Standing beside Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, said: "The president wants a blank check. The Congress is not going to give it to him."

Both Democratic leaders said they would discuss a compromise.

"We look forward to working with the president to find common ground," Pelosi said. "But there is great distance between us right now." (Watch Democratic leaders speak at signing ceremony Video)

Before sending the bill to the president Tuesday afternoon, Democratic congressional leaders urged Bush to sign the bill and begin winding down the war.

"A veto means denying our troops the resources and the strategy they need," Reid said earlier in the day. "After more than four years of a failed policy, it's time for Iraq to take responsibility for its own future."

The spending bill, which Congress passed last week, funds military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, but it also calls for the withdrawal of U.S. troops beginning in October, with the goal of getting all U.S. combat forces out of Iraq by the end of March 2008.

Administration officials have said the money is urgently needed -- and that Democrats would be to blame for any hardships suffered by U.S. troops and their families. But the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service has concluded that the Pentagon could wage war through July without additional funding.

 

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1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

 

That article was written a couple of years after the Murtha incident. I never understood her opposition to calling for withdrawal as the anti-war movement was gaining support, as an individual she was against the war but for some reason she opposed Murtha by instructing the caucus to not support him. I was very anti-war back then, I still carry a lot of resentment towards all of those who played politics while Bush and company were burning the world down. Also, the wiretapping, Gitmo, and Patriot Act happened without any fight from her leadership.

 

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31 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I thought the right's talking point was that migration was destroying the Nordic countries; now they're "homogeneous" places in which socialism works (due to their ongoing homogeneity)?  

Truly, y'all have dizzying intellects.

Give the migration a little time. It's work isn't finished.

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Republicans have made attacks on high-profile Democratic women a key part of their strategy for holding onto congressional majorities.

The GOP aims to cast rank-and-file Democrats as puppets of Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) and other Democratic boogeymen, calculating that suburban and rural voters won't want to replace their Republican lawmakers with Democrats beholden to the party's power brokers.

But while those tactics fire up President Trump's conservative base, it risks turning off the suburban and college-educated women seen as a crucial voting blocs in the fall - especially since so many of the GOP targets happen to be women.

"Republicans need to be careful and smart about the language they use when they're critical of female opponents," Doug Heye, a GOP strategist, said in a telephone interview with The Hill.

Trump has repeatedly ripped "low IQ" Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) and "total flunky" Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand(D-N.Y.).

He's also insulted Warren over her Native American heritage, repeatedly referring to her as "Pocahontas."

And Republicans across the country have run ads highlighting the dangers of putting Pelosi and Waters in power. If Democrats win the House majority this fall, Pelosi could become the Speaker again, while Waters would lead the Financial Services Committee.

To be sure, some Republican ads have also gone after male Democratic figures, such as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.).

But the starring roles of prominent Democratic women in the GOP attacks is notable, and could lead to both rewards and risks.

"Trump and the GOP are really playing with fire," said Brad Bannon, a Democratic strategist. "This is going to jeopardize the support Republicans have with these suburban, college-educated female voters, some of whom voted for Trump in 2016."

Congressional Republicans have made Pelosi the star of a number of attack ads around the country, tying her to Republican targets and branding her as a liberal coastal elitist who would steer the party far left if Democrats win back the House.

"Dishonest Danny would vote with Pelosi to raise taxes and give amnesty to millions of illegals," said one attack ad against Democrat Danny O'Connor, who lost in an Ohio special election against Republican Troy Balderson last week, but is facing off against him again in November.

"His campaign is bankrolled by Pelosi," said another attack ad aimed at Andy Kim, who is running for a House seat in New Jersey. "Andy Kim is a Pelosi liberal. He is not one of us."

"Nancy Pelosi and Anthony Brindisi's liberal agenda is too extreme for upstate New York," said another ad promoting Rep. Claudia Tenney's (R) reelection race.

Using Pelosi as a liberal punching bag is hardly a new playbook for Republicans. But the GOP is also ramping up attacks on Warren, Waters and New York congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

The Republican National Committee this week compared Ocasio-Cortez, who quickly became a liberal star after her primary defeat of Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.), to a "mini-Maduro," referring to the Venezuelan dictator.

In what is being dubbed as the "year of the woman," where a record number of female candidates are running for office, some strategists have warned Republicans to be careful not to cross a line when they criticize women.

"Those kind of things can backfire very quickly, and it's important to be smart and precise to avoid that," Heye said. "You can still be critical of them, it just needs to be thought-through."

While the White House has argued that Trump is an "equal-opportunist" when it comes to lobbing insults, some of his most sustained and biting attacks have been directed at women in the Democratic party.

And in recent months, Waters - a veteran lawmaker and woman of color who has been one of the loudest champions of Trump's impeachment - has become public enemy No. 1 in the president's eyes.

Trump has called Waters "crazy," "unhinged" and "extraordinarily low-IQ" - lines of attack that some critics have called sexist and racially charged.

He has also tried to paint both her and Pelosi, two California liberals, as the face of the Democratic Party.

"Crazy Maxine Waters, said by some to be one of the most corrupt people in politics, is rapidly becoming, together with Nancy Pelosi, the FACE of the Democrat Party," Trump tweeted in July. "Her ranting and raving, even referring to herself as a wounded animal, will make people flee the Democrats!"

Trump's attacks on prominent women aren't limited to Democrats. Earlier this week, he lashed out at his former White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman following the release of her tell-all memoir "Unhinged," calling the "Apprentice" alumna a "crazed, crying lowlife" and a "dog."

Trump repeatedly came under fire for his treatment of women during the 2016 campaign, particularly after the release of his hot-mic "Access Hollywood" tape, yet he still was elected to the White House - and over the first female major party presidential nominee.

But some strategists say the political environment is much different this time around.

Not only has the "Me Too" movement changed the national dialogue when it comes to women speaking out, but the Senate will soon start hearings to confirm conservative Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, where Democrats have warned that abortion and other women's rights will be on the chopping block.

"If you put all these pieces together, you're looking at a situation that's going to cause a lot of trouble for Republicans in competitive House seats," Bannon said.

The attacks on women could also give fuel to the Democratic argument that their party is more friendly to women, both from a policy and political standpoint.

"When you start comparing women candidates to dictators, and the president goes out and calls former staffers dogs, that does not help the Republican side of things. It only energizes Democrats," Tara Setmayer, a former GOP communications director on Capitol Hill, told CNN on Friday.

While Republicans have recruited a record-breaking number of women to run for office, they are still lagging behind Democratic women, who far outnumber their Republican counterparts on Capitol Hill. The GOP is also poised to lose 25 percent of their female members next year due to retirements or members seeking higher office.

And if Democrats win the House in November, 35 women are poised to lead committees and subcommittees in the next Congress - an historically high figure that would put female lawmakers in the driver's seat for some of the most pressing issues facing Congress and the country. That could further galvanize female voters in the midterm elections.

"Look at how well women are doing in Democratic primaries," Bannon said. "Something is going on there. Women are activated."

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She is dirty as fuck and it is a travesmockery that she is ranking member on the HFSC.

According to Chuck Neubauer and Ted Rohrlich writing in the Los Angeles Times in 2004, Maxine Waters' relatives had made more than $1 million during the preceding eight years by doing business with companies, candidates and causes that Waters had helped. They claimed she and her husband helped a company get government bond business, and her daughter Karen Waters and son Edward Waters have profited from her connections. Waters replied that "They do their business and I do mine."[36] Liberal watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington named Waters to its list of corrupt members of Congress in its 2005, 2006, 2009 and 2011 reports.[37][38] Citizens Against Government Waste named her the June 2009 Porker of the Month due to her intention to obtain an earmark for the Maxine Waters Employment Preparation Center.[39][40]

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20 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

She is dirty as fuck and it is a travesmockery that she is ranking member on the HFSC.

According to Chuck Neubauer and Ted Rohrlich writing in the Los Angeles Times in 2004, Maxine Waters' relatives had made more than $1 million during the preceding eight years by doing business with companies, candidates and causes that Waters had helped. They claimed she and her husband helped a company get government bond business, and her daughter Karen Waters and son Edward Waters have profited from her connections. Waters replied that "They do their business and I do mine."[36] Liberal watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington named Waters to its list of corrupt members of Congress in its 2005, 2006, 2009 and 2011 reports.[37][38] Citizens Against Government Waste named her the June 2009 Porker of the Month due to her intention to obtain an earmark for the Maxine Waters Employment Preparation Center.[39][40]

She's really good at her job.

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Lean left but not a registered or lock-step Democrat. Respect her for her unquestionable effectiveness as a speaker and party leader. Agree that she can come off as arrogant/out of touch "coastal elite," even thought hat is blown out of proportion. Disagree with the assessment that perception doesn't matter though - in a consensus-building role it absolutely does.

That said, Republicans despise her for her effectiveness and that is amplified because she is a woman - Rs being hostile towards powerful women is not particularly new and is very dumb. For that reason I wouldn't mind having her stick around. Perception matters, but perception based in outdated prejudice doesn't need to be accommodated. That said, as someone who will actually have to deal with the problems the boomers have created, I will never be sad to see them cede power to a younger generation. So in the end I am pretty ambivalent on the idea of her as speaker, which is where I think a lot of independent voters are.

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20 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You vote for Republicans, correct? And you're pretending to be concerned about government graft?

Come on, man.

I vote for both. I'll be voting  for a democrat in Va. in Nov. and voted for the democrat for gov. in the last election.

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On 8/18/2018 at 1:57 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

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Republicans have made attacks on high-profile Democratic women a key part of their strategy for holding onto congressional majorities.

The GOP aims to cast rank-and-file Democrats as puppets of Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) and other Democratic boogeymen, calculating that suburban and rural voters won't want to replace their Republican lawmakers with Democrats beholden to the party's power brokers.

But while those tactics fire up President Trump's conservative base, it risks turning off the suburban and college-educated women seen as a crucial voting blocs in the fall - especially since so many of the GOP targets happen to be women.

"Republicans need to be careful and smart about the language they use when they're critical of female opponents," Doug Heye, a GOP strategist, said in a telephone interview with The Hill.

Trump has repeatedly ripped "low IQ" Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) and "total flunky" Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand(D-N.Y.).

He's also insulted Warren over her Native American heritage, repeatedly referring to her as "Pocahontas."

And Republicans across the country have run ads highlighting the dangers of putting Pelosi and Waters in power. If Democrats win the House majority this fall, Pelosi could become the Speaker again, while Waters would lead the Financial Services Committee.

To be sure, some Republican ads have also gone after male Democratic figures, such as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.).

But the starring roles of prominent Democratic women in the GOP attacks is notable, and could lead to both rewards and risks.

"Trump and the GOP are really playing with fire," said Brad Bannon, a Democratic strategist. "This is going to jeopardize the support Republicans have with these suburban, college-educated female voters, some of whom voted for Trump in 2016."

Congressional Republicans have made Pelosi the star of a number of attack ads around the country, tying her to Republican targets and branding her as a liberal coastal elitist who would steer the party far left if Democrats win back the House.

"Dishonest Danny would vote with Pelosi to raise taxes and give amnesty to millions of illegals," said one attack ad against Democrat Danny O'Connor, who lost in an Ohio special election against Republican Troy Balderson last week, but is facing off against him again in November.

"His campaign is bankrolled by Pelosi," said another attack ad aimed at Andy Kim, who is running for a House seat in New Jersey. "Andy Kim is a Pelosi liberal. He is not one of us."

"Nancy Pelosi and Anthony Brindisi's liberal agenda is too extreme for upstate New York," said another ad promoting Rep. Claudia Tenney's (R) reelection race.

Using Pelosi as a liberal punching bag is hardly a new playbook for Republicans. But the GOP is also ramping up attacks on Warren, Waters and New York congressional candidate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

The Republican National Committee this week compared Ocasio-Cortez, who quickly became a liberal star after her primary defeat of Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.), to a "mini-Maduro," referring to the Venezuelan dictator.

In what is being dubbed as the "year of the woman," where a record number of female candidates are running for office, some strategists have warned Republicans to be careful not to cross a line when they criticize women.

"Those kind of things can backfire very quickly, and it's important to be smart and precise to avoid that," Heye said. "You can still be critical of them, it just needs to be thought-through."

While the White House has argued that Trump is an "equal-opportunist" when it comes to lobbing insults, some of his most sustained and biting attacks have been directed at women in the Democratic party.

And in recent months, Waters - a veteran lawmaker and woman of color who has been one of the loudest champions of Trump's impeachment - has become public enemy No. 1 in the president's eyes.

Trump has called Waters "crazy," "unhinged" and "extraordinarily low-IQ" - lines of attack that some critics have called sexist and racially charged.

He has also tried to paint both her and Pelosi, two California liberals, as the face of the Democratic Party.

"Crazy Maxine Waters, said by some to be one of the most corrupt people in politics, is rapidly becoming, together with Nancy Pelosi, the FACE of the Democrat Party," Trump tweeted in July. "Her ranting and raving, even referring to herself as a wounded animal, will make people flee the Democrats!"

Trump's attacks on prominent women aren't limited to Democrats. Earlier this week, he lashed out at his former White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman following the release of her tell-all memoir "Unhinged," calling the "Apprentice" alumna a "crazed, crying lowlife" and a "dog."

Trump repeatedly came under fire for his treatment of women during the 2016 campaign, particularly after the release of his hot-mic "Access Hollywood" tape, yet he still was elected to the White House - and over the first female major party presidential nominee.

But some strategists say the political environment is much different this time around.

Not only has the "Me Too" movement changed the national dialogue when it comes to women speaking out, but the Senate will soon start hearings to confirm conservative Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, where Democrats have warned that abortion and other women's rights will be on the chopping block.

"If you put all these pieces together, you're looking at a situation that's going to cause a lot of trouble for Republicans in competitive House seats," Bannon said.

The attacks on women could also give fuel to the Democratic argument that their party is more friendly to women, both from a policy and political standpoint.

"When you start comparing women candidates to dictators, and the president goes out and calls former staffers dogs, that does not help the Republican side of things. It only energizes Democrats," Tara Setmayer, a former GOP communications director on Capitol Hill, told CNN on Friday.

While Republicans have recruited a record-breaking number of women to run for office, they are still lagging behind Democratic women, who far outnumber their Republican counterparts on Capitol Hill. The GOP is also poised to lose 25 percent of their female members next year due to retirements or members seeking higher office.

And if Democrats win the House in November, 35 women are poised to lead committees and subcommittees in the next Congress - an historically high figure that would put female lawmakers in the driver's seat for some of the most pressing issues facing Congress and the country. That could further galvanize female voters in the midterm elections.

"Look at how well women are doing in Democratic primaries," Bannon said. "Something is going on there. Women are activated."

 

death spiral 

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9 hours ago, Anastasis said:

death spiral 

Counter points.......#victimsforlife

You question me?  It’s only because I’m a woman. Debate?  Stop the cat calls. 

Lmao. When you have nothing to say or offer play the victim card. Hill just finished her book tour on it. 

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16 hours ago, Incredulity said:

She is dirty as fuck and it is a travesmockery that she is ranking member on the HFSC.

According to Chuck Neubauer and Ted Rohrlich writing in the Los Angeles Times in 2004, Maxine Waters' relatives had made more than $1 million during the preceding eight years by doing business with companies, candidates and causes that Waters had helped. They claimed she and her husband helped a company get government bond business, and her daughter Karen Waters and son Edward Waters have profited from her connections. Waters replied that "They do their business and I do mine."[36] Liberal watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington named Waters to its list of corrupt members of Congress in its 2005, 2006, 2009 and 2011 reports.[37][38] Citizens Against Government Waste named her the June 2009 Porker of the Month due to her intention to obtain an earmark for the Maxine Waters Employment Preparation Center.[39][40]

John Boehner, son of a barkeep, retired with a house in a country club in Ohio and a beach house in Florida.  What do you think about that?

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23 hours ago, David Dennison said:

She's an excellent member of Congress.

Views like this that seem to permeate the Dem party drives me nuts and continues to leave me a man without a political party.

Republicans have gone full racist retard but Dems are doing nothing to bring independents to them.

in short, fuck all you cunts 

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Views like this that seem to permeate the Dem party drives me nuts and continues to leave me a man without a political party.
Republicans have gone full racist retard but Dems are doing nothing to bring independents to them.
in short, fuck all you cunts 

So a racist retard vs boring seems equal to you?
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