NBA 2022-2023 Season Thread

[Braff Zacklin 13666]

[Underdog 28800]

3 hours ago, ztejas said:

I'd whip your ass too. 

And then take him to the Cheesecake Factory afterwards? 

[Kermit 3159]

[Pimphand 5932]

Someone needs an interlock device installed on their computers, phones, & tablets.

[Sbbruin 21899]

13 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Lakers win and Westbrook was a big reason why.

At 1-5, some people might say we're on pace for a 16-66 record.  I like to think we're on pace for a 77-5 season.  

[UpperWestside 6190]

3 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

At 1-5, some people might say we're on pace for a 16-66 record.  I like to think we're on pace for a 77-5 season.  

The glass half-full fan! I like this. For a night he gets a reprieve. I have said and will maintain that Westbrook is a good human being and is one of the more thoughtful guys in the NBA. He just hit the stage of his career where he doesn’t have all of his athleticism and he has not adjusted accordingly. It would be cool if he changes as a player and accepts a bench role for the season for us or another team if he gets traded, unlikely as that might be.

[statsman 5486]

Why do you consider Westbrook to be a good human being and a thoughtful guy? I can think of counter-examples. 

[hobbes2702 13082]

49 minutes ago, statsman said:

Why do you consider Westbrook to be a good human being and a thoughtful guy? I can think of counter-examples. 

There’s nothing that comes to the top of my head immediately but feel free to post them.

Biggest problem with Russ imo isn’t the slight loss in athleticism or the shooting. It’s that he is an awful awful defensive player. If he gave the effort or had the knowledge on defense you could forgive some of the offensive stuff. Because of how bad his defense is at this point, he’s virtually unplayable 

[Vic Mackey 47170]

Where PJ Tucker headed?

[Dutchrudder 11154]

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

There’s nothing that comes to the top of my head immediately but feel free to post them.

Biggest problem with Russ imo isn’t the slight loss in athleticism or the shooting. It’s that he is an awful awful defensive player. If he gave the effort or had the knowledge on defense you could forgive some of the offensive stuff. Because of how bad his defense is at this point, he’s virtually unplayable 

If KD can get along with insane Kyrie, but had to bail on OKC due to Russ, I'm gonna guess Russ is a pretty toxic person to deal with, at least as a teammate. We all know how much of a shithead Draymond is, and he drove KD away from Golden State, sooooo yeah, Russ is somewhere between Dray and Kyrie as far as teammates go. 

50 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Where PJ Tucker headed?

Pinata Tucker?

[hobbes2702 13082]

22 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

If KD can get along with insane Kyrie, but had to bail on OKC due to Russ, I'm gonna guess Russ is a pretty toxic person to deal with, at least as a teammate. We all know how much of a shithead Draymond is, and he drove KD away from Golden State, sooooo yeah, Russ is somewhere between Dray and Kyrie as far as teammates go. 

Pinata Tucker?

I think that was a basketball decision not necessarily a personality one. RW has always been really well respected from my memory by his teammates. Again I could be wrong but I don’t remember anything specific that’s really been said about him as a bad teammate, at least in terms of his personality. 

[BigOrange1 6476]

 

 

[aggie08 21559]

Damn, not even close to Thanksgiving.

[shadow_operative 15932]

Kyrie to player/coach.

[hobbes2702 13082]

Yikes

[speed817 19491]

6 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

Kyrie to player/coach.

head of nets social media too

[Dutchrudder 11154]

I hear Kanye is available, he can't be any worse.

[Vic Mackey 47170]

Not surprising at all on many fronts. Nash had no real voice with those egos. If I was Nash, I would be happy to part ways with that toxic environment and go chill and come back to a less toxic role with another team in the future if he plans to. Still not sure how good he is as a coach, though since that was a weird situation to judge the last few seasons.

[speed817 19491]

1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

Not surprising at all on many fronts. Nash had no real voice with those egos. If I was Nash, I would be happy to part ways with that toxic environment and go chill and come back to a less toxic role with another team in the future if he plans to. Still not sure how good he is as a coach, though since that was a weird situation to judge the last few seasons.

He can come to Dallas and learn from Kidd 😬

[Message Board User 12396]

Kyrie - the great divider

[statsman 5486]

Russ is complex. He must be very charismatic- there is no doubt that KD wanted to keep Russ’ respect and friendship after leaving. There is also no doubt that Russ absolutely refused, viewing KD’s departure as a personal betrayal that could not be forgiven. This also affected Durant’s status in OKC forever. It’s a petty look for Russ. 
 
I think the Brian Davis thing is also a bad look for Russ. “Cotton picking” is a phrase with no history of a racial slur (else it would have been edited out of the Foghorn Leghorn cartoon in the ‘70s), but was given such a meaning out of ignorance (I’m white; my dad and uncles all picked cotton, and it’s sucked, but that’s what poor people did until the blessed machines were invented). Davis used the phrase to emphasize a compliment to Russ and Russ decided to be offended. Davis apologized, Westbrook could have saved his job, but instead gave it a thumbs down (during a period when Westbrook was the alpha for the whole franchise). Nobody thinks Davis is racist and nobody was going to counter Russ. To me, it looks like an ignorant flex by Russ. 
 
There is a lot to admire about Westbrook- his effort, intensity and locker room leadership. I don’t know that kindness, consideration and thoughtfulness are on the list. 

[BigOrange1 6476]

fucking wild:

 

[hobbes2702 13082]

58 minutes ago, statsman said:

Russ is complex. He must be very charismatic- there is no doubt that KD wanted to keep Russ’ respect and friendship after leaving. There is also no doubt that Russ absolutely refused, viewing KD’s departure as a personal betrayal that could not be forgiven. This also affected Durant’s status in OKC forever. It’s a petty look for Russ. 
 
I think the Brian Davis thing is also a bad look for Russ. “Cotton picking” is a phrase with no history of a racial slur (else it would have been edited out of the Foghorn Leghorn cartoon in the ‘70s), but was given such a meaning out of ignorance (I’m white; my dad and uncles all picked cotton, and it’s sucked, but that’s what poor people did until the blessed machines were invented). Davis used the phrase to emphasize a compliment to Russ and Russ decided to be offended. Davis apologized, Westbrook could have saved his job, but instead gave it a thumbs down (during a period when Westbrook was the alpha for the whole franchise). Nobody thinks Davis is racist and nobody was going to counter Russ. To me, it looks like an ignorant flex by Russ.
 
There is a lot to admire about Westbrook- his effort, intensity and locker room leadership. I don’t know that kindness, consideration and thoughtfulness are on the list. 

Edited November 1, 2022 by hobbes2702

[Message Board User 12396]

7 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

fucking wild:

 

What a circus.

[hobbes2702 13082]

Sounds like it’s a done deal. 

[Message Board User 12396]

3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Sounds like it’s a done deal. 

No picks involved either.  

 

[Pam Cummings 9685]

I'm sure this will work out great for everyone.

[Message Board User 12396]

1 minute ago, Pam Cummings said:

I'm sure this will work out great for everyone.

It did for Nash.  I'm assuming he got the rest of the money owed to him on the contract and now he doesn't have to deal with KD, Simmons, and Kyrie.

[Kermit 3159]

Brooklyn is a dumpster fire.

[4th&Five 41603]

 

[aggie08 21559]

I guess the Nets should be thanking Kyrie for being such a PR disaster that the general public behind hiring Udoka is, "Haha sure, why the fuck not."

[Kermit 3159]

I guess signing Josh Primo is next on the agenda.

[Braff Zacklin 13666]

1 hour ago, BigOrange1 said:

fucking wild:

 

[hobbes2702 13082]

22 minutes ago, Kermit said:

I guess signing Josh Primo is next on the agenda.

[UpperWestside 6190]

1 hour ago, Kermit said:

Brooklyn is a dumpster fire.

Excuse me sir, but my Lakers will take you to court for trademark infringement as they have the dumpster all to themselves. Brooklyn is what happens when you mess around, find out and then are insane enough to go back and find out even more stuff. Hiring Udoka is the cherry on top of their crazy sundae.

[4th&Five 41603]

 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10362]

Picking up a currently suspended coach (for sleeping with a subordinate) is... well something.

2 hours ago, BigOrange1 said:

fucking wild:

 

Wonder if he'll bring some other "staff" with him.

[tx 3 putt 77558]

Ime is going to bang her into next week !

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Nets on pace to lose again. The coach that was banging married women in his last organization should get them right. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

i just tuned in to this okc vs orlando game with ~9 min left in the 4Q, and the basketball i've seen from the magic during that time is *literally* the worst basketball i've seen since shaka smart was at texas. just one clueless, horrible possession after another. really bad. 

it looks like they just play 5 out on offense and just pass it around until one of them takes a terrible shot.

[shadow_operative 15932]

Bol Bol has stood sedentary in the corner on every single for offensive possession, like he's steve blake or something. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

orlando has missed 10 straight shots and blown a double digit lead.

[Dutchrudder 11154]

51 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Nets on pace to lose again. The coach that was banging married women in his last organization should get them right. 

Kyrie had as many points as fouls this game. 2-12, 4 points, 6 Reb, 7 AST, 4 fouls in 33 minutes, playing like he's on the Lakers. Not a great look at home, maybe he really liked Nash. 

[Murfdogg21 4432]

10 hours ago, BigOrange1 said:

 

 

3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Ime is going to bang her into next week !

[aggie08 21559]

Amid the Lakers and Nets tire fires, the Warriors low-key suck right now. I'm sure a decent amount of that is championship hangover, and I don't expect to see anything resembling elite team defense this calendar year. But they had some savvy vets and pro's pros on the roster last year, and are now putting a lot of faith in a bunch of young guys who have never played big minutes to bring it 82 nights a season. Gonna take some time.

I still don't understand paying Poole a year earlier than they had to. I like him a lot, but he's an undersized 2-guard who doesn't play defense or rebound, and is only a decent passer at this point in his career. Not to mention the awkwardness of a Steph, Poole, Klay lineup not really being sustainable against good teams. $35M is a lot to pay for a 6th man. Why not wait and see how this year plays out.

[Dutchrudder 11154]

26 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Amid the Lakers and Nets tire fires, the Warriors low-key suck right now. I'm sure a decent amount of that is championship hangover, and I don't expect to see anything resembling elite team defense this calendar year. But they had some savvy vets and pro's pros on the roster last year, and are now putting a lot of faith in a bunch of young guys who have never played big minutes to bring it 82 nights a season. Gonna take some time.

I still don't understand paying Poole a year earlier than they had to. I like him a lot, but he's an undersized 2-guard who doesn't play defense or rebound, and is only a decent passer at this point in his career. Not to mention the awkwardness of a Steph, Poole, Klay lineup not really being sustainable against good teams. $35M is a lot to pay for a 6th man. Why not wait and see how this year plays out.

You just don't understand how Golden State works. If you aren't light years ahead, you're light years behind.

[Message Board User 12396]

10 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Amid the Lakers and Nets tire fires, the Warriors low-key suck right now. I'm sure a decent amount of that is championship hangover, and I don't expect to see anything resembling elite team defense this calendar year. But they had some savvy vets and pro's pros on the roster last year, and are now putting a lot of faith in a bunch of young guys who have never played big minutes to bring it 82 nights a season. Gonna take some time.

I still don't understand paying Poole a year earlier than they had to. I like him a lot, but he's an undersized 2-guard who doesn't play defense or rebound, and is only a decent passer at this point in his career. Not to mention the awkwardness of a Steph, Poole, Klay lineup not really being sustainable against good teams. $35M is a lot to pay for a 6th man. Why not wait and see how this year plays out.

James Wiseman...ugh.  Virtually unplayable right now.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18597]

12 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Amid the Lakers and Nets tire fires, the Warriors low-key suck right now. I'm sure a decent amount of that is championship hangover, and I don't expect to see anything resembling elite team defense this calendar year. But they had some savvy vets and pro's pros on the roster last year, and are now putting a lot of faith in a bunch of young guys who have never played big minutes to bring it 82 nights a season. Gonna take some time.

I still don't understand paying Poole a year earlier than they had to. I like him a lot, but he's an undersized 2-guard who doesn't play defense or rebound, and is only a decent passer at this point in his career. Not to mention the awkwardness of a Steph, Poole, Klay lineup not really being sustainable against good teams. $35M is a lot to pay for a 6th man. Why not wait and see how this year plays out.

Porter, Payton 2 and Toscano Anderson were really good for them off the bench last season. I like the Divencenzo and Jaymichael Green additions on paper, but Divencenzo has a troublesome injury history and Green isn't the shooter that Porter is. And neither brings the defensive juice like Payton did. He was a menace. The Warriors were always most dangerous when they had an energizer second unit that could go crazy on you, even going back to the Iguodala, Barbosa, Livingston, Ezeli, days. It's even more important now that the core is older. They had it going last season, but I don't know if they find that same groove this year. Those young guys are going to have to bring it. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

 

in all honesty (and my posting history backs this up), i agree with cam'ron. ben simmons neither likes nor does he want to play basketball. he needs to quit and go do whatever it is that he actually wants to do. 

[Kermit 3159]

Ben Simmons is the least of the Nets problems at this point.