NBA 2022-2023 Season Thread

[Dutchrudder 11139]

11 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

If the warriors are healthy, they are going to be a tough out. I also wouldn’t sleep on the clippers if they are healthy too. Even the grizzlies and pelicans are going to be tough. And the mavs just added an ultra talented psychopath to their roster. The west playoff is going to be a blood bath. Can’t wait. 

Yeah I know those are good above average teams, but I don't think any of them push the Nuggets or Suns to more than 6 games in a series. Nuggets vs Suns would be a great matchup if they are all healthy, but I would take the Suns in that instance. If the Cavs don't come out of the East, then I will be rooting for KD or Jokic to win it all. 

If KD can stay healthy, he has the opportunity to take over this Suns team and lead them to the Finals, and possibly a ring. It would be tremendous for his legacy to get one with a bunch of guys who have never won a championship. 

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12 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

If the warriors are healthy, they are going to be a tough out. I also wouldn’t sleep on the clippers if they are healthy too. Even the grizzlies and pelicans are going to be tough. And the mavs just added an ultra talented psychopath to their roster. The west playoff is going to be a blood bath. Can’t wait. 

I hope somehow the Suns and GSW meet up.

[Message Board User 12395]

 

[Chewbacca 7777]

On 2/12/2023 at 9:19 PM, longhornmatt said:

When Zion actually plays, he scores with the type of insane effective FG% that only Curry matches.  He shoots the same percentage as guys who only try to score if they have open layups, except he initiates offense and can get 30 as your number 1 option.  

Uh, there's a 2-time MVP who is shooting 63% on the year, and that includes 110 3 pt attempts (he's shooting 39% from 3).  None of the rest of the top 10 has attempted more than 8 3s on the year.  Zion is at 61% with only 19 3s attempted.

[Pam Cummings 9641]

2 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

Yeah I know those are good above average teams, but I don't think any of them push the Nuggets or Suns to more than 6 games in a series. Nuggets vs Suns would be a great matchup if they are all healthy, but I would take the Suns in that instance. If the Cavs don't come out of the East, then I will be rooting for KD or Jokic to win it all. 

If KD can stay healthy, he has the opportunity to take over this Suns team and lead them to the Finals, and possibly a ring. It would be tremendous for his legacy to get one with a bunch of guys who have never won a championship. 

Rudy T has some advice for you on who to not underestimate, lol

 

Mostly agree though. I wanna say the Warriors can be a threat if healthy but that road record is just complete dumpster juice.

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18 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Wow! Sam hauser hits a 28 foot prayer to tie it

I needed that.  Had Milwaukee and over 248

[aggie08 21498]

2 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

Rudy T has some advice for you on who to not underestimate, lol

 

Mostly agree though. I wanna say the Warriors can be a threat if healthy but that road record is just complete dumpster juice.

The next playoff series that the Warriors lose where Steph, Klay, and Dray start every game will be their first.

That said, I just don't see how those 3 guys stay healthy enough through 3 series to make it out of the West with how little they've gotten from anybody outside their starting lineup all season. Shit, they're probably going to have to go on something like a 10-2 run once Steph gets back to avoid the play-in. A week ago, being the 7 seed didn't sound so bad. Not it may land you KD, Book, and a presumably healthy CP3 in Round 1.

 

 

[aggie08 21498]

10 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

 

The timeline of events and LeBron's history sure check out on this one.

[SilasCoade 2622]

24 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

and a presumably healthy CP3

[aggie08 21498]

1 minute ago, SilasCoade said:

That's why you don't want to face the Suns in Round 1. CP3 usually gives you one good round to get the team's fans' hopes up before aggravating some of that soft tissue.

[closetohumping 17440]

Lists are usually way off, but I find this one to be decent:

 

[d2o 1602]

Embiid still only avging 46 gms/yr 8+yrs into his career is pretty wild but Zion getting 200M+ while only avging 28 gms a yr is fucking nuts.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

Lists are usually way off, but I find this one to be decent:
 

I still don’t think Tim Duncan gets enough love on these. He probably has more titles than days spent under .500.

I mean how many time did Tim Duncan lose 3 games in a row in 20 years?

[Chewbacca 7777]

44 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Lists are usually way off, but I find this one to be decent:

 

No Jokic?  Come on now.  Every other back to back MVP is on there (and the lowest is Steve Nash at #38, next lowest is Malone at #18) but he doesn't even make the list?  AD is #53?  Chris Paul?  James Harden?  Dame?  Only one MVP and no titles among the 4 of them.

[Pam Cummings 9641]

43 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

I still don’t think Tim Duncan gets enough love on these. He probably has more titles than days spent under .500.

I mean how many time did Tim Duncan lose 3 games in a row in 20 years?

He also is a player who started his career as a traditional down low, rim protecting big, dominated and won titles with that style, then was able to transition to a more free flowing and ball movement oriented offense and still be a dominant player. A very unique player. I'll always love truly dominant two-way players. He can be in my top 5 any day, but i am a biased MF.

Edited February 15, 2023 by Pam Cummings

[ChickenSandwich 9834]

41 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

I still don’t think Tim Duncan gets enough love on these. He probably has more titles than days spent under .500.

I mean how many time did Tim Duncan lose 3 games in a row in 20 years?

What is more important?  Titles or individual play?

Timmy has the titles (while playing alongside two HOF players) and gets more credit for team achievements  

Individually as a player, Olajuwon was the better offense and defensive player by a significant margin. 
 

*splitting hairs as id have him in my top 10 (TD)

Edited February 15, 2023 by ChickenSandwich

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Suns and Nuggets certainly the favorites in the West but the three point line introduces a new wringle to the modern game. 

[Mitch Cumsteen 18549]

3 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

What is more important?  Titles or individual play?

Timmy has the titles (while playing alongside two HOF players) and gets more credit for team achievements  

Individually as a player, Olajuwon was the better offense and defensive player by a significant margin. 
 

*splitting hairs as id have him in my top 10 (TD)

Horse shit. Winners win. 

[Wulaw Horn 19069]

3 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

No Jokic?  Come on now.  Every other back to back MVP is on there (and the lowest is Steve Nash at #38, next lowest is Malone at #18) but he doesn't even make the list?  AD is #53?  Chris Paul?  James Harden?  Dame?  Only one MVP and no titles among the 4 of them.

Probably an old list. Like a couple years ago. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

What is more important?  Titles or individual play?
Timmy has the titles (while playing alongside two HOF players) and gets more credit for team achievements  
Individually as a player, Olajuwon was the better offense and defensive player by a significant margin. 
 
*splitting hairs as id have him in my top 10 (TD)

All of the above

It’s actually the number of days the Spurs have had a losing record since 1997.

For anyone who might have forgotten, this is 2018, meaning in 21-plus seasons, the Spurs have had a losing record for a grand total of less than seven weeks

https://news4sanantonio.com/amp/sports/spurs-zone/crazy-stat-shows-true-measure-of-spurs-sustained-excellence


Absolute insanity.


The 2022-2023 spurs have already 100 days under 500

[Fastbreak 3985]

I missed it, why didn't Kyrie play?

[Dutchrudder 11139]

Jokic with another triple double for 21 on the season, and the Nuggets are 21-0 in those games to boot. I watched the second half of this game, and the Nuggets were in control the whole time, but they played hard and kept the Mavs from getting close. Thomas Bryant had some great cuts to the rim for easy dunks and layups, so he's looking like a great fit for their offense. It's hard to believe, but 36 year old Jeff Green lead the Nuggets with 24 points tonight...  The Nuggets are looking great so far, hope they stay healthy and kick some ass in the playoffs. 

[ChickenSandwich 9834]

46 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

All of the above

It’s actually the number of days the Spurs have had a losing record since 1997.

For anyone who might have forgotten, this is 2018, meaning in 21-plus seasons, the Spurs have had a losing record for a grand total of less than seven weeks

https://news4sanantonio.com/amp/sports/spurs-zone/crazy-stat-shows-true-measure-of-spurs-sustained-excellence


Absolute insanity.


The 2022-2023 spurs have already 100 days under 500

Easily a top ten all time team as well. Maybe top 5

[ChickenSandwich 9834]

2 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Horse shit. Winners win. 

Jordan is Jordan. 
 

IMO both are above Shaq. Shaq’s biggest attribute was sheer size not skill. 
 

Lebron is 80% of the skill of Jordan with 20% more size. He’s in the conversation because his size has sustained his longevity producing all time #s

 

Jordans top 5 team

Jordan

Pippen

Worthy

Magic

Hakeem

 

https://www.sportscasting.com/michael-jordans-all-time-starting-five-consists-of-himself-and-only-players-from-his-era/

Edited February 16, 2023 by ChickenSandwich

[gsoda3 3257]

I missed it, why didn't Kyrie play?

Back stiffness

[Baboontyme 2810]

10 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

12 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

I missed it, why didn't Kyrie play?

Back stiffness

That's what the deep state wants you to think. I'm sure Kyrie has a much more profound reason. I wish the media would stop targeting him. 

[Chewbacca 7777]

I missed it, why didn't Kyrie play?

I'm more interested in why his hat said Organic Negrow.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

Russ joining the clippers? Lol

[Brothahorn 10087]

I missed it, why didn't Kyrie play?

I understand why some fans get frustrated with the load management. I set aside time to watch Mavs-Nuggets. Interested to see how Kyrie-Luka stack up against a good team. Also expecting a high scoring, crazy shootout. But no Kyrie.

Good thing I didn't bet the over.

[Chewbacca 7777]

 

3 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

I understand why some fans get frustrated with the load management. I set aside time to watch Mavs-Nuggets. Interested to see how Kyrie-Luka stack up against a good team. Also expecting a high scoring, crazy shootout. But no Kyrie.

Good thing I didn't bet the over.

With Kyrie, Murray and Gordon all out, the under was a safe bet last night.

[SilasCoade 2622]

If love gets bought out where does he end up? I'm assuming reunion with LeBron but Phoenix and Dallas both are intriguing.

[closetohumping 17440]

19 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Suns and Nuggets certainly the favorites in the West but the three point line introduces a new wringle to the modern game. 

Hasn’t the three point line been around since the 80s

[Dutchrudder 11139]

45 minutes ago, SilasCoade said:

If love gets bought out where does he end up? I'm assuming reunion with LeBron but Phoenix and Dallas both are intriguing.

Phoenix makes the most sense, they can make room for him. They need a backup PF anyway, even if all he can do is rebound and shoot 3s.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18549]

If I were Cleveland, there's no way in hell I'd buy him out just so he could go to one of their competitors. Here you go Kev... we've overpaid the fuck out of you for damn near a decade on dogshit teams and now that we can actually make a move in the postseason, let's see if you can go to another team and try to beat us. 

I know the guy has fallen out of the rotation recently, but he would likely show up in spots somewhere during a playoff run and make a difference. Seems odd to me that he would want out of that after watching it come full circle from championship to tank and now back to contender. You can't hang on for another couple of months and try to get them all the way back? Really? After they paid you more than $200 million in career earnings? 1/5 of a billion fucking dollars. Seriously? 

[shadow_operative 15932]

[shadow_operative 15932]

trivia time 

over the last 25 years, there have been 1,700 times where a player has attempted more than 250 midrange shots in a season. during that span, only three times has a player shot over 55% from midrange. name all of the players to do do it. bonus: name the seasons they did it as well.

[d2o 1602]

2 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

If I were Cleveland, there's no way in hell I'd buy him out just so he could go to one of their competitors. Here you go Kev... we've overpaid the fuck out of you for damn near a decade on dogshit teams and now that we can actually make a move in the postseason, let's see if you can go to another team and try to beat us. 

I know the guy has fallen out of the rotation recently, but he would likely show up in spots somewhere during a playoff run and make a difference. Seems odd to me that he would want out of that after watching it come full circle from championship to tank and now back to contender. You can't hang on for another couple of months and try to get them all the way back? Really? After they paid you more than $200 million in career earnings? 1/5 of a billion fucking dollars. Seriously? 

I get what you are saying but he was having a great yr early.    Like 6MOY good.   Then for whatever reason to completely fall out of the rotation is rough.   he hasnt played in 12 straight gms so its pretty clear they've moved on from him.    Let him move on too if he still feel likes he can play and contribute.   They probably would have traded him if they could have got someone to take on his salary anyway.   

[ztejas 43420]

37 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

trivia time 

over the last 25 years, there have been 1,700 times where a player has attempted more than 250 midrange shots in a season. during that span, only three times has a player shot over 55% from midrange. name all of the players to do do it. bonus: name the seasons they did it as well.

Durant last season, Jokic this season for 2/3?

[shadow_operative 15932]

34 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Durant last season, Jokic this season for 2/3?

Durant last season is correct. two more.

[ztejas 43420]

Just now, shadow_operative said:

Durant last season is correct. two more.

Is there a Chris Paul season in there? 

[shadow_operative 15932]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Is there a Chris Paul season in there? 

negative.

[ztejas 43420]

1 minute ago, shadow_operative said:

negative.

Is it all Durant seasons? 😂

[shadow_operative 15932]

Just now, ztejas said:

Is it all Durant seasons? 😂

this year, last year, and 2018/19.

[ztejas 43420]

1 minute ago, shadow_operative said:

this year, last year, and 2018/19.

He was so insane in 2019 and everyone forgets it. That playoffs injury sucked. 

[HtownHorn 14678]

7 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Russ joining the clippers? Lol

This really helps with the Rockets pick flip.

[closetohumping 17440]

So Giannis gets hurt, killing my Giannis over prop, but the bucks are still killing the bulls without him. Are they tanking?

[Baboontyme 2810]

3 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

trivia time 

over the last 25 years, there have been 1,700 times where a player has attempted more than 250 midrange shots in a season. during that span, only three times has a player shot over 55% from midrange. name all of the players to do do it. bonus: name the seasons they did it as well.

I listen to OM3 as well. 

[Baboontyme 2810]

1 hour ago, closetohumping said:

So Giannis gets hurt, killing my Giannis over prop, but the bucks are still killing the bulls without him. Are they tanking?

I guess it's defense. I watch them a lot but usually casually on a side TV. They have 3 pretty decent players in Vuc, LaVine and Deebo. I'm not sure why they suck. Getting Lonzo back would help. Also got screwed on the Giannis props. 

[Message Board User 12395]

13 hours ago, closetohumping said:

So Giannis gets hurt, killing my Giannis over prop, but the bucks are still killing the bulls without him. Are they tanking?

No they are just legitimately bad.

One of the low key bad trades in recent memory is the Vucevic trade.  What a disaster that trade has been for the Bulls.  They still suck and they gave up Wendell Carter and a pair of lightly protected first round picks…the first of which turned into Franz Wagner (who is terrific) and the second will be a top 10 pick this year.

And as a result of picking up Vucevic, the Bulls got rid of Lauri Markannen (now an All star) for virtually nothing.

Just a really bleak picture for the Bulls’ future - a single tear runs down my cheek…ha.

[closetohumping 17440]

21 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

No they are just legitimately bad.

One of the low key bad trades in recent memory is the Vucevic trade.  What a disaster that trade has been for the Bulls.  They still suck and they gave up Wendell Carter and a pair of lightly protected first round picks…the first of which turned into Franz Wagner (who is terrific) and the second will be a top 10 pick this year.

And as a result of picking up Vucevic, the Bulls got rid of Lauri Markannen (now an All star) for virtually nothing.

Just a really bleak picture for the Bulls’ future - a single tear runs down my cheek…ha.

I liked Markannen when he was with the Bulls actually.  Maybe Donavan will take a look at our job?