NBA 2022-2023 Season Thread

[Aqua Buddha 14,595]

The irony is Donavan left OKC for Chicago because he didn't want a rebuild but now OKC is better than Chicago with significantly more long term upside.

[HamsterHookah 112]

36 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

No they are just legitimately bad.

One of the low key bad trades in recent memory is the Vucevic trade.  What a disaster that trade has been for the Bulls.  They still suck and they gave up Wendell Carter and a pair of lightly protected first round picks…the first of which turned into Franz Wagner (who is terrific) and the second will be a top 10 pick this year.

And as a result of picking up Vucevic, the Bulls got rid of Lauri Markannen (now an All star) for virtually nothing.

Just a really bleak picture for the Bulls’ future - a single tear runs down my cheek…ha.

This. And I was probably one of the few who really liked Vucevic and thought he was a really nice player. He was just old and getting older (while on the Magic) and you could see the writing on the wall.

[aggie08 21,500]

20 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

The irony is Donavan left OKC for Chicago because he didn't want a rebuild but now OKC is better than Chicago with significantly more long term upside.

While true, he left when the franchise still wanted to do at least two more seasons of shameless tanking.

[d2o 1,602]

This is fucking bullshit.  Who really give a fuck if you were the last pick of the 24 best players in the world

 

 

 

 

[Blotto 23,498]

19 minutes ago, d2o said:

This is fucking bullshit.  Who really give a fuck if you were the last pick of the 24 best players in the world

 

 

 

 

This must be such an emotional godsend for the player who is the last reserve chosen. Game changer.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

So someone’s still going to be the last starter picked, right?

[d2o 1,602]

2 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

So someone’s still going to be the last starter picked, right?

yep, and the last reserve is still the last player picked.   This makes me wish they never went away from East v West

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,549]

I posted this in the Spurs thread but this seems like important NBA news that everybody should know:

 

[Pam Cummings 9,641]

Great publicity for Bryn, being referred to as a "star".

[ztejas 43,420]

That's going to just wreck the Timberwolves. 

[Kermit 3,156]

I followed Mitch’s lead and did some research on this Elsa Jean character. 
 

 

Man, the Spurs sure have attracted some assholes lately. And by assholes I mean people of low character, not Miss Jean’s asshole which I’m sure could fit most of the Spurs players at the same time. 

[Wulaw Horn 19,069]

22 hours ago, Baboontyme said:

I guess it's defense. I watch them a lot but usually casually on a side TV. They have 3 pretty decent players in Vuc, LaVine and Deebo. I'm not sure why they suck. Getting Lonzo back would help. Also got screwed on the Giannis props. 

I think they are like 7th in defense. They miss Lonzo  a lot. 

[SilasCoade 2,622]

On 2/16/2023 at 12:30 PM, SilasCoade said:

If love gets bought out where does he end up? I'm assuming reunion with LeBron but Phoenix and Dallas both are intriguing.

ESPN reporting likely Heat or Sixers. Not sure I like the fit with either or that he's a difference maker for either. Boston should cut Blake and sign him.

[Dutchrudder 11,139]

2 hours ago, SilasCoade said:

ESPN reporting likely Heat or Sixers. Not sure I like the fit with either or that he's a difference maker for either. Boston should cut Blake and sign him.

If Love goes anywhere besides Denver, Phoenix, Milwaukee or Boston, then leaving the Cavs was pointless. He was supposed to go to a "contender"

Edited February 18, 2023 by Dutchrudder

[aggie08 21,500]

What real contender is saying, man, we could really use Kevin Love to bolster our rotation? Who's he getting legit postseason minutes with?

[Message Board User 12,395]

If a team needs a defensive stopper on Steph...

 

[SilasCoade 2,622]

2 hours ago, aggie08 said:

What real contender is saying, man, we could really use Kevin Love to bolster our rotation? Who's he getting legit postseason minutes with?

I don't know that that's the right question. I think the question is, what end of the bench big on a contender is better than vet minimum Love in the playoff run? For instance, not Blake Griffin. Probably not Landale for PHX. Not Morris for the Mavs. 

We're talking about teams looking to shore up the margins not the core.

Edited February 18, 2023 by SilasCoade

[aggie08 21,500]

5 minutes ago, SilasCoade said:

I don't know that that's the right question. I think the question is, what end of the bench big on a contender is better than vet minimum Love in the playoff run? For instance, not Blake Griffin. Probably not Landale for PHX. Not Morris for the Mavs. 

We're talking about teams looking to shore up the margins not the core.

That's fair. He can buy you a few minutes of floor spacing for the 2nd unit. But he'll have a Ryan Anderson-sized target on his back anytime he's out there in a close playoff game.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

Man that skills challenge was sad

[Message Board User 12,395]

If there's not a "take my talents to South Beach" phrase uttered in the next few days, I'll be extremely disappointed.

 

[closetohumping 17,440]

[Reynolds Woodcock 4,740]

Westbrook to Clippers. Makes absolutely zero sense for the Clips. Bizarre

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

The Clips needed a me first, inefficient 3 point shooter that doesn't play a lot of defense. Good move.

Lebron drafted Kyrie first among the All star starters. The recruiting has begun. 

Not sure what would make me throw up more as a Mavs fan- giving a 4 year max to a 6'2 guy that only shows up to work 50% of the time or trading assets for Kyrie and him walking for nothing 4 months later. Wouldn't bother him one bit to fuck over Dallas.

[Pam Cummings 9,641]

The same people complaining about the all star game are the same ones who just cite ringzzzz and only care about who won the championship. If ringzzzz are all that matter then congratulations, you've created a culture where people don't give a shit about the regular season, let alone the all star game. This Jordan and Brady ringzzzzz bullshit has completely taken the fun out of all the other stuff because the athletes gear their whole schedule and health around being their best for the playoffs. Which is fine. But i just don't see the point in bitching about it when "count the ringzzzzzzzz" is literally what the media and most fans have emphasized the most importance on.

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

Not much question NBA stars forcing their way to big cities surrounded by other stars usually helps their legacy long term even if it hurts their brand in the short term. A lot of NBA fans don't even care what city their favorite player is on they root for the name on the back. Considering like six teams even have a chance most years I guess it makes some sense.

Then again Dirk playing 20 years in Dallas and building a special relationship with one cities fans will always be why he's my all time favorite athlete. Is interesting the international players tend to be way more loyal so far.

[ChickenSandwich 9,834]

1 hour ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

The Clips needed a me first, inefficient 3 point shooter that doesn't play a lot of defense. Good move.

Lebron drafted Kyrie first among the All star starters. The recruiting has begun. 

Not sure what would make me throw up more as a Mavs fan- giving a 4 year max to a 6'2 guy that only shows up to work 50% of the time or trading assets for Kyrie and him walking for nothing 4 months later. Wouldn't bother him one bit to fuck over Dallas.

wouldn't he need a trade or a massive pay cut to go to the Lakers as a FA?

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

Michael Jordan still played 82 games like 9 times which is becoming more uncommon among todays stars. The sitting has become an epidemic.

Can you imagine trying to buy Clippers tickets in advance? Have to pretty much buy NBA tickets the week of now as I don't want to pay good money to watch role players.

[closetohumping 17,440]

1 hour ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

The Clips needed a me first, inefficient 3 point shooter that doesn't play a lot of defense. Good move.

Lebron drafted Kyrie first among the All star starters. The recruiting has begun. 

Not sure what would make me throw up more as a Mavs fan- giving a 4 year max to a 6'2 guy that only shows up to work 50% of the time or trading assets for Kyrie and him walking for nothing 4 months later. Wouldn't bother him one bit to fuck over Dallas.

I think at one point Russ has been the worst defender, most turnover prone and worst long range shooter in the league.  Impressive.

[Kermit 3,156]

I, for one, celebrate the acquisition of Westbrook for the Clippers and look forward to this decision torpedoing yet another season for Kawhi Leonard. 

[Brothahorn 10,087]

Those Bulls teams with Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Harper, Kukoc, and Kerr would run today's NBA.

[Aqua Buddha 14,595]

 

[closetohumping 17,440]

You know what's funny about Russ's shooting percentage?  These are wide open shots.  Nobody is guarding him.

[Pam Cummings 9,641]

People who can't shoot have no place in the game anymore. They just completely kill the spacing on offense. You simply don't have to guard them. It's 4 on 5.

[d2o 1,602]

23 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

The same people complaining about the all star game are the same ones who just cite ringzzzz and only care about who won the championship. If ringzzzz are all that matter then congratulations, you've created a culture where people don't give a shit about the regular season, let alone the all star game. This Jordan and Brady ringzzzzz bullshit has completely taken the fun out of all the other stuff because the athletes gear their whole schedule and health around being their best for the playoffs. Which is fine. But i just don't see the point in bitching about it when "count the ringzzzzzzzz" is literally what the media and most fans have emphasized the most importance on.

Meh, I'm not only about rings but that ASG was disgusting.   I dont want playoff defense or hell even reg season defense but SOME defense is too much to ask??? 

[d2o 1,602]

22 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Michael Jordan still played 82 games like 9 times which is becoming more uncommon among todays stars. The sitting has become an epidemic.

Can you imagine trying to buy Clippers tickets in advance? Have to pretty much buy NBA tickets the week of now as I don't want to pay good money to watch role players.

Load management, in most cases, is not player driven.   Teams want fans to think that so they can side with management when the next work stoppage comes about.   Just like the whole concept of making player salaries public info.

Edited February 21, 2023 by d2o

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,549]

We're stuck with load management because the league's financial interests don't align with its competitive interests. You want to make every game count? Cut the schedule to 50 games. But nobody is signing up for a paycut.

[Pam Cummings 9,641]

The thing with load management is that it doesn't seem to do much as far as preventing injuries. I understand for older players, but it's not right for these younger guys to be load managing. And if you're gonna do it, do it at home, where your own fans will have plenty of chances to see their hometown star players. Doing it on the road is a pretty big middle finger to the fans in my humblest of opinions.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,549]

11 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

The thing with load management is that it doesn't seem to do much as far as preventing injuries. I understand for older players, but it's not right for these younger guys to be load managing. And if you're gonna do it, do it at home, where your own fans will have plenty of chances to see their hometown star players. Doing it on the road is a pretty big middle finger to the fans in my humblest of opinions.

Yeah... that ain't happening. It's a lot better to give someone else's fans the middle finger instead of giving it to your own season ticket holders. Imagine somewhere like Golden State where the ticket prices are the highest in the league and you sit Curry and Klay so that your fans can have the Anthony Lamb experience instead. 

[closetohumping 17,440]

2 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

People who can't shoot have no place in the game anymore. They just completely kill the spacing on offense. You simply don't have to guard them. It's 4 on 5.

That's the other thing that a commentator mentioned.  His man was sagging so it was 4 on 5.  Sorry Russ apologists, triple double be damned he is a liability out there.  Also was a horrible defender and turnover machine for much of career.

1 hour ago, d2o said:

Load management, in most cases, is not player driven.   Teams want fans to think that so they can side with management when the next work stoppage comes about.   Just like the whole concept of making player salaries public info.

You would think the Clips would want Kawhi to play in more than 40 games.

[d2o 1,602]

18 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

You would think the Clips would want Kawhi to play in more than 40 games.

Exactly why I said "in most cases"   His case is an outlier, though the Clips knew this going in and still agreed to sign him.

[d2o 1,602]

 

 

[d2o 1,602]

 

 

 

[Brothahorn 10,087]

 
 
 

Well, he won't have another 1st round playoff loss year.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,549]

This sixers grizzlies game is one of the best of the year. Absolutely bonkers with great play after great play. 

[Fastbreak 3,985]

Sabbonis with an 18/18/10 game.

Dame load managing after the week long break.  

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

2 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

This sixers grizzlies game is one of the best of the year. Absolutely bonkers with great play after great play. 

Ending was great. Only saw the 4th quarter.

 

Edited February 24, 2023 by Loch Ness Monster

[shadow_operative 15,932]

clippers decide not to foul while up three with 8 seconds left, and malik monk nails a three to send us to OT tied at...153. 😂 nba basketball 2023- first one to 150 still doesn't win. 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

Edited February 25, 2023 by shadow_operative

[shadow_operative 15,932]

nobody else just watched that game? good lawd.

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

3rd or 4th highest scoring game ever?

[shadow_operative 15,932]

second highest scoring game ever.