Waukesha Christmas Parade attack - on trial

[Zeus 6463]

 

Couldn't find the thread for this one?

 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

Surprised there was no plea deal.

[Dennis Taylor 19025]

21 hours ago, Zeus said:

 

Couldn't find the thread for this one?

 

The "Incel attacks women" thread has 30+ replies though

[TexasEd 8142]

Full on FAFO with the Sovereign Citizen angle and self representation.

Edited September 28, 2022 by TexasEd

[Lhorn 5024]

Hate crime charges?

surprised this went to trial so soon.  Seems like these things get dragged out for much longer before trial. 

Edited September 28, 2022 by Lhorn

[Viper 12154]

5 minutes ago, Lhorn said:

Hate crime charges?

surprised this went to trial so soon.  Seems like these things get dragged out for much longer before trial. 

I imagine the below is why

17 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

Full on FAFO with the Sovereign Citizen angle and self representation.

 

[TexasEd 8142]

lol, His public defenders were discharged.

Judge: I find the defendant competent

Defendant: I object.

 

 

[Blotto 23679]

he seems to be picking up this lawyering stuff pretty quickly

[Updawg 2301]

Future surly lawyer

[Lhorn 5024]

I don’t know if he’s faking but considering the case against him, representing himself and acting like he’s crazy probably gives you a better chance than a public defender. 

[Zeus 6463]

On 10/4/2022 at 10:31 PM, Lhorn said:

I don’t know if he’s faking but considering the case against him, representing himself and acting like he’s crazy probably gives you a better chance than a public defender. 

 

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13539]

I’ve seen a few clips where he argues with witnesses who point to him as the perpetrator.  The witness basically say, “you ran over everyone” and his only response is what do you mean by you?

Seems like he wants to argue the meaning of words and lecture the judge on laws and procedures as he thinks they should be.

not too mention how he like other sovereign citizens/sovereign moors refuse to acknowledge their legal name. 

[Incredulity 11686]

Just watched a video of the trial that played on YT after the above link.  Suspect was questioning the mother of a child he ran down.  I literally feel like I am going to throw up.  That poor woman. My god.

[Gatorubet 30391]

It’s hard to give an opinion on this one. I can’t see if the flag has a fringe or not.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11822]

2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

It’s hard to give an opinion on this one. I can’t see if the flag has a fringe or not.

Crazy is crazy.   It’s our mental health system on trial.  

[DalTxHornFan 3122]

He's not mental, he knew exactly what he was doing -- look up Vincent Gigante for an example of the defense tactic that he is using. 

Fuck him.  He is a cold-blooded killer who fucked up an innocent Christmas parade, killed people, and ruined shit for a lot of kids forever.

Edited October 18, 2022 by DalTxHornFan

[Brisketexan 105569]

Yeah, dude's a POS who looks to be playing a game.  But he's not playing it NEARLY well enough to buy him a good basis for appeal.  He's just being a dick.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13539]

He is a "sovereign citizen" bozo who does not want to acknowledge that the law applies to him. And he may very well believe it. He thinks that the judge has to let him go if he only says the right phrase. In his mind, she's ignoring the real law and applying admiralty law instead. (crazy)

They do not like authority or laws, so they've talked themselves into a conspiracy theory with ridiculously loose evidence. They pick and choose obscure court rulings to back up their beliefs, and then add those rulings to other nonsense which have zero basis in the law.

one of their odder beliefs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_theory

[sidis 9832]

dude should go to prison for life if not worse.

cannot believe brisket hasn't weighed in about the judge being squarely in his wheelhouse and having an erection during openings in her courtroom.

[TexasEd 8142]

12 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

He is a "sovereign citizen" bozo who does not want to acknowledge that the law applies to him. And he may very well believe it. He thinks that the judge has to let him go if he only says the right phrase. In his mind, she's ignoring the real law and applying admiralty law instead. (crazy)

They do not like authority or laws, so they've talked themselves into a conspiracy theory with ridiculously loose evidence. They pick and choose obscure court rulings to back up their beliefs, and then add those rulings to other nonsense which have zero basis in the law.

one of their odder beliefs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_theory

I still have not heard what law he proposes applies.  Mosaic law, eye for an eye?

What I have heard:

• The state does not have standing to press charges when they were not the injured party.  (The dead people need to come forward to charge him?)
• He unilaterally changed his name so he is not the person charged in the case.  (Looks over his shoulder.  Are you calling me Mr Brooks?  I do not recognize that name as applying to me.)
• He does not submit to jurisdiction. In some ways his argument boils down to: 

The whole sovereign thing leads to people breaking traffic laws because they don't apply or this over tax disputes:

[TexasEd 8142]

May not be much risk of this but don't watch the live coverage.  Brooks' cross is nothing but asking witness why they are testifying and police detective why he watched the surveillance footage of Brooks running through the neighborhood.

And now he seems to be suggesting that since no-video or witnesses caught him crossing a street that he did not cross the street.  Like video saw me over there and then on the other side but you can't prove I crossed the street because you did not see it.

Brooks: What time did you start the investigation? - Detective: I was called to investigate as soon as you ran people over at the parade.

You should get enough lulz from summary videos

Edited October 19, 2022 by TexasEd

[Chooky 13321]

[Zeus 6463]

Guilty all charges

Jailors get to clean off the shit he smears on his cell walls for the rest of his life. 

[Helobious 9503]

This trial didn’t start out as being all that publicized but really really blew up on social media and in the news over the past couple weeks after his nuttiness went on display. Dude turned himself into a meme. Hopefully he never knows freedom again.

[TexasEd 8142]

He did all that fucking around with the self defense and sovereign citizen shit and finally found out.  There was a lot of strenuous objecting and taking exception with rulings.

His closing argument is that the Jury should do their own research and go beyond the law and jury instructions the judge gives them.

at 9:24 someone in the courtroom yells, "burn in hell you piece of shit"

 

Edited October 27, 2022 by TexasEd

[Cornpop 230]

Fuck that racist child-murdering piece of shit

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2741]

Would the judge in her chambers

[conVINCEd 21474]

I hope that sovereign citizen craps works as well for him in the prison shower as it did in court.

 

[Hate 20157]

Since he is a sovereign citizen, rights don’t apply to him…drag him behind the courthouse and be done with it. He’s 100% guilty. There is zero doubt he did this. Flush the turd.

[Spoosner 86]

I went down the rabbit hole of watching a bunch of courtroom videos.

• Fuck that waste of space and tax payer money.
• I have no idea how the judge kept her cool through all of it.
• I don't know anything about courtroom procedure, but how was he not in contempt of court on numerous occasions? He was constantly interrupting witnesses, the prosecution, and the judge. He would disobey direct orders from the judge, and straight up yell at her. The worst she did was send him to the adjacent courtroom and put him on mute. My only guess is that putting him in contempt would've prolonged the trial, which she had no interest in doing.

[Foosters 17918]

He should have never been permitted to represent himself to begin with.

[Dahobbs 17803]

13 minutes ago, Spoosner said:

I went down the rabbit hole of watching a bunch of courtroom videos.

• Fuck that waste of space and tax payer money.
• I have no idea how the judge kept her cool through all of it.
• I don't know anything about courtroom procedure, but how was he not in contempt of court on numerous occasions? He was constantly interrupting witnesses, the prosecution, and the judge. He would disobey direct orders from the judge, and straight up yell at her. The worst she did was send him to the adjacent courtroom and put him on mute. My only guess is that putting him in contempt would've prolonged the trial, which she had no interest in doing.

She was very restrained in order to avoid any possibility of creating an issue that could lead to him getting a new trial. 

[royiv 9447]

55 minutes ago, Foosters said:

He should have never been permitted to represent himself to begin with.

This. Him not having adequate defense is going to set him up for an appeal and further prolong this circus.

[Hanrahan 1306]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

She was very restrained in order to avoid any possibility of creating an issue that could lead to him getting a new trial. 

Judge and the prosecution bent over backwards to accommodate his crazy because the evidence was overwhelming.  Better to put up with his antics than give him an inkling of a ground for appeal.

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

1 hour ago, Foosters said:

He should have never been permitted to represent himself to begin with.

Why do you hate fun?

[Dilligas 672]

Damn I’d love to meet Judge Jennifer in her “chamber”, and I wish that guard standing behind that POS would have discharged his firearm in said POS like he wanted to

[TwiceHorn 31677]

8 hours ago, Foosters said:

He should have never been permitted to represent himself to begin with.

I agree, but it seems she was quite painstaking in "running the traps" on his defending himself, as well as his competence.  I suppose refusing to let him defend himself might have been a reversible error itself.

[TwiceHorn 31677]

"Allow me to expose my colon."