2023 NFL DRAFT

[LTtxfan 49170]

4 hours ago, Harvdog said:

I think he runs a 4.48

Nice prediction...    (4.47 for Bijan)

[LTtxfan 49170]

11 minutes ago, Wishbone said:

RoJo with a 4.59

Was hoping 4.55 or better for RoJo

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[billfromlaketravis 11458]

Excellent time for Bijan. He should be in street clothes at Texas' Pro Day. 

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[Harvdog 2288]

4.48 on his 2nd run

[Atticus 3973]

For Bijan or Rojo?

[billfromlaketravis 11458]

Yeah RoJo should run at the Pro Day. I think he's going to have a very nice pro career, I just hope he doesn't get the Texas discount during the NFL Draft. 

[Harvdog 2288]

Ro did 4.65 2nd run. Bijan did 4.48

[Pato del Muerto 52489]

24 minutes ago, Wishbone said:

Achane puts up am4.34 40

At 5’8.5 and 188

[Wishbone 4759]

6 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

At 5’8.5 and 188

Yeah, the other RB (don’t remember his name) with the next lowest time was about the same size IIRC.

maybe the guy from ECU?

Edited March 5, 2023 by Wishbone

[cochamps 1879]

12 minutes ago, Wishbone said:

Yeah, the other RB (don’t remember his name) with the next lowest time was about the same size IIRC.

maybe the guy from ECU?

Yes, like 5'9", 179.

[CastHorn 811]

Roschon looks impressive. One of the more physically imposing backs. Sucks he couldn’t stay in the 4.5s the 2nd run. He should run again at this pro day.

[billfromlaketravis 11458]

I hate that Achane just fell in aggy's lap after we landed Bijan. Too good of a player for those dorks. 

[Atticus 3973]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I hate that Achane just fell in aggy's lap after we landed Bijan. Too good of a player for those dorks. 

IIRC they were one of the few offering him the opportunity to be a RB full time.

We were late to offer and possibly did so as a slot or APB.

Edited March 6, 2023 by Atticus

[billfromlaketravis 11458]

4 minutes ago, Atticus said:

IIRC they were one of the few offering him the opportunity to be a RB full time.

We were late to offer and possible did so as a slot or APB.

Oh I remember. F*** Herman. 

[Wishbone 4759]

The Bijan show, presented by NFL Network.

[The Dog 44020]

42 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I hate that Achane just fell in aggy's lap after we landed Bijan. Too good of a player for those dorks. 

Yeah he’s exciting - he’s gonna make some team very happy. 

[Hank_Hill 18803]

44 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Oh I remember. F*** Herman. 

Meh, Herman wasn’t wrong. He never would have been the feature back here and would probably have murdered in the slot. Guess he could’ve sold him bullshit though.

[billfromlaketravis 11458]

Pretty deep RB class but Bijan is head and shoulders above them. 

[Mr. Drummond 2198]

39 minutes ago, Wishbone said:

The Bijan show, presented by NFL Network.

I know a certain fan base that was highly annoyed with the last hour of the combine.   

[Hank_Hill 18803]

8 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Pretty deep RB class but Bijan is head and shoulders above them. 

He’s the best all around back to come out in a long time, especially when you take his catching ability in to account 

[Wishbone 4759]

I like the Barry Sanders comparison they talked about today.

[billfromlaketravis 11458]

1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

He’s the best all around back to come out in a long time, especially when you take his catching ability in to account 

Agreed. I do worry that teams will get cute and Bijan goes late first. Staring contest on who drafts Bijan first, and the runner up immediately drafts Gibbs. 

[Hozz 1017]

Bijan official best times 1.52 split 4.46 40.

 

[JesusSweatDuck 17781]

Rojo made himself some money today. His 40 wasn't flying but good enough, the rest of his workout was stellar

 

 

 

 

[MH BEVO 1265]

5 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Rojo made himself some money today. His 40 wasn't flying but good enough, the rest of his workout was stellar

 

 

 

 

I think the commentators were high on him. Aaron Jones mentioned him along with Bijan and Gibbs. 

[Atticus 3973]

Effort/leadership is his calling card. He's pretty talented, but he's a safe bet because of his intangibles.

[Surly Bevo 24908]

Rojo also had a 1.52 10 split.  Oh my kingdom for one more year of those guys with an O line with one more year of seasoning.  

[Cooterhorn 162]

Eagles take Bijan at 10.  Sucks for all of you Cowboy fans, but Eagles are NFC top team until Hurts gets more money than he is worth.

[Deej 76759]

2 hours ago, The Dog said:

Yeah he’s exciting

Better than any running back Texas has ever produced, if you ask aggy.

[Codaxx 5731]

1 hour ago, Atticus said:

Effort/leadership is his calling card. He's pretty talented, but he's a safe bet because of his intangibles.

His ability to be a factor in special teams is very valuable. I wish he had a better combine. 10 yard split was very good, but the rest was pretty meh.

Edited March 6, 2023 by Codaxx

[naija 2854]

2 hours ago, Wishbone said:

I like the Barry Sanders comparison they talked about today.

that's because they are high

[texifornia 56912]

24 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

His ability to be a factor in special teams is very valuable. I wish he had a better combine. 10 yard split was very good, but the rest was pretty meh.

Weren't people just saying he had a good combine except the 40?

[Codaxx 5731]

10 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Weren't people just saying he had a good combine except the 40?

I saw his testing numbers and they were pretty mediocre. His Vertical was one of the lowest among RBs. Hard to tell much from the drills 

Edited March 6, 2023 by Codaxx

[Had Enough 2081]

https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/top-performers/

If you look under Performers and select ALL, you get the best of all time. There are tons of guys on there who did little to nothing.

It’s interesting.

[Vertigo 20276]

15 hours ago, Atticus said:

Effort/leadership is his calling card. He's pretty talented, but he's a safe bet because of his intangibles.

I watched the entire RB session at the combine. Roschon was pretty clearly in the top 5 of backs when you consider overall skill, size, speed, etc +intangibles. I would be shocked if he were a second rounder, but 3rd-5th sounds about right. I think you will see Gibbs, possibly Achane, and one or two others in the second round. Deuce Vaughn had a really good day but his lack of size will push him down the board and make him a 3rd down/gadget back in the NFL, Blake Corum was kind of meh. Tyjae Spears from Tulane is a pretty interesting guy, not very big but freaky balance. 

Interestingly, the guy who really hurt himself yesterday and clearly was not very prepared, or not very good, was Eric Gray from Oklahoma. He had to redo multiple drills, knocked over bags, and just generally looked shitty. It would not surprise me to see him go undrafted. 

Edited March 6, 2023 by Vertigo

[The Dog 44020]

Just saw that Zach Evans declared for the draft. Was at the combine but didn't work out (injured). Interested to see where he goes - he's had a very mixed college career. 

[Vertigo 20276]

2 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Just saw that Zach Evans declared for the draft. Was at the combine but didn't work out (injured). Interested to see where he goes - he's had a very mixed college career. 

In terms of raw talent, I think he is in the same neighborhood with Bijan, Gibbs, and Achane, but if he goes higher than a 4th or 5th rounder I would be shocked.  

[Vic Mackey 47019]

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[Texzilla58 4733]

Belichik skipped the combine. He’s usually there b ll to bell.

[NoName 16351]

On 3/5/2023 at 11:17 AM, closetojumping said:

Yes. Ewers actually has some fundamentals. He needs work, which he’s getting from an excellent offensive staff for QBs, and he needs a better WR room, which he’s also getting. OL development will also lead to the premise that suddenly Quinn Ewers is amazing. 

Richardson has no fundamentals. He’s capable of looking absolutely terrible or amazing because of his athleticism and lack of any mechanical foundation upon which to rely. Watching him play QB at Florida was often borderline uncomfortable. I can’t imagine what UF fans think of the experience. You could make an argument that UF is about to have produced a top 10 draft pick that improved their team by leaving it. 

people don't understand how bad he was most of the year.

Here are the game he passed for over 200 yards (very low bar) and that teams defensive FEI ranking

• Vanderbilt, 400 yards in a game they lost (!!!) - DFEI: 82
• A&M, 201 yards - DFEI: 30
• UGA, 271 yards - DFEI: 1
• Eastern Washington, 240 yards - FCS
• Tennessee, 453 yards - DFEI: 33

dude had 33% of his passing yards for the season in 2 games, both losses. thew for under 200 yards 7 times in 12 games. that doesn't include the time he threw for 201. threw for under 250 yards (random selection) exactly 3 times in 12 games.

he finished 116th of 124 qualified passers last year in completion %

richardson is literally the most athletic QB to come out in the draft per RAS. he would be the most athletic RB to come out in the draft too. dude is an incredible athlete.

literally, here he is vs Kyle Pitts (2nd most athletic TE in the speedscore database) and Chase Claypool (10th most athletic WR)

 

 

 

[NoName 16351]

4 hours ago, Vertigo said:

I watched the entire RB session at the combine. Roschon was pretty clearly in the top 5 of backs when you consider overall skill, size, speed, etc +intangibles. I would be shocked if he were a second rounder, but 3rd-5th sounds about right. I think you will see Gibbs, possibly Achane, and one or two others in the second round. Deuce Vaughn had a really good day but his lack of size will push him down the board and make him a 3rd down/gadget back in the NFL, Blake Corum was kind of meh. Tyjae Spears from Tulane is a pretty interesting guy, not very big but freaky balance. 

Interestingly, the guy who really hurt himself yesterday and clearly was not very prepared, or not very good, was Eric Gray from Oklahoma. He had to redo multiple drills, knocked over bags, and just generally looked shitty. It would not surprise me to see him go undrafted. 

Bijan vs Rojo through RAS

someone is going to be very happy with RoJo.

Edited March 6, 2023 by NoName

[LTtxfan 49170]

17 hours ago, Vertigo said:

I watched the entire RB session at the combine. Roschon was pretty clearly in the top 5 of backs when you consider overall skill, size, speed, etc +intangibles. I would be shocked if he were a second rounder, but 3rd-5th sounds about right. I think you will see Gibbs, possibly Achane, and one or two others in the second round. Deuce Vaughn had a really good day but his lack of size will push him down the board and make him a 3rd down/gadget back in the NFL, Blake Corum was kind of meh. Tyjae Spears from Tulane is a pretty interesting guy, not very big but freaky balance. 

Interestingly, the guy who really hurt himself yesterday and clearly was not very prepared, or not very good, was Eric Gray from Oklahoma. He had to redo multiple drills, knocked over bags, and just generally looked shitty. It would not surprise me to see him go undrafted. 

How did UCLA's Zach Charbonnet look??

He's been banged up at times, might be better in a platoon RB situation in the NFL.

 

[Codaxx 5731]

18 hours ago, NoName said:

Bijan vs Rojo through RAS

someone is going to be very happy with RoJo.

How does that compare to other RBs? I listened to Babers and he was thinking late round pick to UDFA.  Still thinks he will be on an NFL roster, but pointed out that NFL teams base their draft on the shorts and t-shirt Olympics and the fact that RB is devalued position in the draft.  Basically comes down to how much will a team value a RB with mediocre athletic ability, but high intangibles. 

[NoName 16351]

11 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

How does that compare to other RBs? I listened to Babers and he was thinking late round pick to UDFA.  Still thinks he will be on an NFL roster, but pointed out that NFL teams base their draft on the shorts and t-shirt Olympics and the fact that RB is devalued position in the draft.  Basically comes down to how much will a team value a RB with mediocre athletic ability, but high intangibles. 

he's in the top 10, lots of places are ranking him as a 8.09 vs his final score of 8.13. so he is in the top 10 for this specific draft:

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   1. Deneric Prince — Tulsa — RAS: 9.84
   2. Bijan Robinson — Texas — 9.81
   3. Zach Charbonnet — UCLA — 9.68
   4. Chase Brown — Illinois — 9.62
   5. Evan Hull — Northwestern — 9.18
   6. Camerun Peoples — Appalachian State — 8.75
   7. Keaton Mitchell — East Carolina — 8.53
   8. Roschon Johnson — Texas — 8.09
   9. Jahmyr Gibbs — Alabama — 7.95
   10. Tank Bigsby — Auburn — 7.49

    

PFF evidently projects him as a 4th rd pick

 

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Roschon Johnson

Johnson was the backup to Bijan Robinson in college at Texas, so he enters the 2023 NFL Draft with a little more to prove than his college backfield mate. Johnson has good — not elite — speed at the position, clocking a 4.58 40-yard dash time. His broad jump was elite, yet his vertical jump was not great. Johnson did not catch the ball out of the backfield often during his college tenure, so if the Dolphins are looking for a pass catching back, they might want to look elsewhere to fill that hole.

PFF predicts Johnson to be a fourth round pick, so if the Dolphins want to be sure they land the former Longhorn, they will need to take him with one of their third round selections if they choose not to acquire another mid-round pick in a trade down scenario.

 

he had a pretty elite 10 yard split on his 40

sporQ has him as the 8th highest in the class

 

[closetojumping 62604]

20 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

How does that compare to other RBs? I listened to Babers and he was thinking late round pick to UDFA.  Still thinks he will be on an NFL roster, but pointed out that NFL teams base their draft on the shorts and t-shirt Olympics and the fact that RB is devalued position in the draft.  Basically comes down to how much will a team value a RB with mediocre athletic ability, but high intangibles. 

I like Rod Babers, but he had his head up his own ass on this take.

[LTtxfan 49170]

Feels like late 3rd or 4th Rd is likely for RoJo

[Codaxx 5731]

9 minutes ago, NoName said:

he's in the top 10, lots of places are ranking him as a 8.09 vs his final score of 8.13. so he is in the top 10 for this specific draft:

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PFF evidently projects him as a 4th rd pick

 

he had a pretty elite 10 yard split on his 40

sporQ has him as the 8th highest in the class

 

Achane at 50 in SPARQ?  That just does not make sense. He is a little dude, but he is athletic. 

[TheMailBox357 213]

ESPN's on-air commentary about the QBs in the draft have been atrocious. I can't help but chuckle at Richardson constantly getting compared to NFL QBs who were way better college QBs than Richardson was.