Star Trek Megathread

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[Js1 85257]

On 6/12/2024 at 12:56 AM, atomheartbevo said:

How is Star Trek attracting Oscar-worthy talent for what looked like a second-tier show?

if you could go back five years and tell yourself that Paul Giamatti and Holly Hunter would be headlining a Star Trek show about Starfleet Academy, you’d probably look at your future self and make a mental note to start hitting the gym more often,

Also announced, Mary Wiseman (Tilly) and Oded Fehr (Dadmiral Vance) will return in ST Academy. As well as Robert Picardo (The Doctor) and Tig Notaro (Jett Reno)

It does not sound like Tilly will be the “star,” as previously thought. 

Edited July 29 by Js1

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37 minutes ago, Js1 said:

and Oded Fehr (Dadmiral Vance) will return

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5388]

I mentioned in stolen valor thread that my 72 year old dad was self made, posting the quote below.

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My dad went from oldest of 14 pulled from school at grade 6 to go work as a janitor to help feed the family, to architect, entirely on his own. Never even finished highschool, he joined the airforce to get his GED. Later put himself through night school while doing construction for 15 years while simultaneously raising a family. My dad is still the single best source of car knowledge -- my blind spot -- that I know, because he rebuilt engines in Nam. He also forbade any of his kids from joining the military, he said he had served so nobody else in the family needed to.

I'm damn proud of his record and what he did with his chance, but my dad also thinks that making such a big deal about serving and "stolen valor" is stupid. He said it was just a job, not an identity.

So, with that in mind, he's been watching Star Trek for the first time after being interested in it for years. Every few days I go over in the evenings or weekends and we'll watch a few episodes a night. We're at the tail end of TNG by now, and we're watching DS9 interwined as it originally aired, so we're also on season 3 of DS9. Last night, I watched "Heart of Stone" with him, it's the episode where Nog joins starfleet thanks to Sisko. Quick refresher, Nog was an illiterate hoodlum who had never been to school in his life before Sisko came aboard. His dad was basically an indentured servant to quark, who was constantly abused despite showing signs of technical brilliance. Heart of Stone ends with Sisko telling Nog he won't recommend him to starfleet, which yields this speech.

This entire situation wasn't lost on my father, and this episode moved him deeply. Nog is easily the best written character in any star trek series, his arc is simply the best. I'm so excited for my dad to see where Nog's arc takes him, it's such a good one. But that scene right there might be my favorite Nog moment. They could have very easily made him hate his father, but he doesn't. He loves him a lot, and is proud of him, he just recognizes the shitty situation they are in. And I love this scene so much because it not only sets into play events that frees Nog from his situation, but also allows his father Rom to better his life. This one scene is probably the single point that changes his entire family's life, and it comes from a moment of sincerity. I love how touched Sisko is when he realizes Nog's plight. What a fucking episode.

 

 

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Knock, knock....that's opportunity at the door.

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That stuff belongs in the Smithsonian and other museums, not in someone's private collection. (Or in someone's private collection but on display in the Smithsonian.) As cultural artifacts, few items are more important than some of the props from OG Star Trek. Kirk's Phaser deserves to be in a crate in that warehouse sitting next to the Ark of the Covenant, safe from the Germans.

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5388]

My dad and I finished TNG sunday. As always, All Good Things is a perfect ending and one of the best episodes in all of Trek. We've timed this perfectly: my dad is aware of the "Grow the beard" trope, and I've been telling him that once TNG ends, DS9 gets *really* good. Well, we've been ping-ponging between episodes of DS9 and TNG, and it just so happens that next weekend when we see our next DS9 episode, Sisko grows his beard, haha. Perfect timing, just as TNG ends on a high note, DS9 starts to kick into high gear.

Man this franchise is so good when you see it in the intended airing order.

[Elvis 3369]

Is Paramount plus ending so this can go to a streaming service I already have?

 

Im a huge fan of the franchise, but I haven’t seen any of the new stuff since Cpt Archer on Enterprise.  I’ve watched the Pine movies of course.  

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47 minutes ago, Elvis said:

Is Paramount plus ending so this can go to a streaming service I already have?

Im a huge fan of the franchise, but I haven’t seen any of the new stuff since Cpt Archer on Enterprise.  I’ve watched the Pine movies of course.  

Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks are worth the price.

[HiggyBaby 2528]

So, I watched the first episode of Strange New Worlds and was intrigued. So I paused that to go watch Discovery and I’m really struggling. Halfway through the first season and I can’t see any reason to keep continuing. Does it get better? Or should I just jump into Strange New Worlds and forget about it. Outside of Picard  I haven’t watched much of the new material.

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56 minutes ago, HiggyBaby said:

So, I watched the first episode of Strange New Worlds and was intrigued. So I paused that to go watch Discovery and I’m really struggling. Halfway through the first season and I can’t see any reason to keep continuing. Does it get better? Or should I just jump into Strange New Worlds and forget about it. Outside of Picard  I haven’t watched much of the new material.

Here's the thing - a huge chunk of Season 2 of Discovery introduces you to the Strange New Worlds crew, starting with Season 2, Episode 1.

If you are struggling with Disco, I would say watch the S2 Discovery episodes with the Enterprise cast, and when that wraps up, hop back over to Strange New Worlds.

 

[thunderlounge 7812]

10 hours ago, HiggyBaby said:

So, I watched the first episode of Strange New Worlds and was intrigued. So I paused that to go watch Discovery and I’m really struggling. Halfway through the first season and I can’t see any reason to keep continuing. Does it get better? Or should I just jump into Strange New Worlds and forget about it. Outside of Picard  I haven’t watched much of the new material.

S1 takes a minute to get going. Once it does though…. Wow.

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28 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:

S1 takes a minute to get going. Once it does though…. Wow.

Yep. Some of the best mirror universe episodes too

[HiggyBaby 2528]

Cool thx, I’ll plug thru at least season 2

[Js1 85257]

18 minutes ago, HiggyBaby said:

Cool thx, I’ll plug thru at least season 2

 I have watched Discovery full through twice, and some seasons 3 times.  My rankings are:

Season 2 (duh, intro of Pike/Spock/Una/Reno) 
Season 4 (most Trek-y to me)

Season 1 (best mirror universe episodes)

Season 5

 

 

 

Season 3 (ugh)

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[thunderlounge 7812]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Season 3 (ugh)

This. S3 sets up the rest, but a bit of a beating watching through it.

I do love S1 though. Issac kills it, as does Yeoh. I don’t care how many CRA’s they make, she’ll always be Captain. 

[Elvis 3369]

I decided to drop AMC for Paramount to watch Star Trek.  There are several series I haven’t seen because they were only on Paramount. Pretty good start to first episode of Strange New Worlds. Pretty wholesome sci-fi so far.  Archer/Enterprise started like that too.  Looking forward to some crazy shit. 

[Elvis 3369]

So far it has this…

 

 

 

but needs this…

 

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1 hour ago, Elvis said:

I decided to drop AMC for Paramount to watch Star Trek.  There are several series I haven’t seen because they were only on Paramount. Pretty good start to first episode of Strange New Worlds. Pretty wholesome sci-fi so far.  Archer/Enterprise started like that too.  Looking forward to some crazy shit. 

You really need to see season 2 of Discovery before jumping into Strange New Worlds.

Or not, but I recommend it.

And if you were a fan of TNG/DS9/Voyager, you need to watch Lower Decks

And if you need semi-nudity, on Lower Decks, you'll see the offspring of Meg Ryan and Dennis Quaid nearly showing off his censored. Or an animated Jerry O'Connell fucking a censored.

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[Elvis 3369]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

You really need to see season 2 of Discovery before jumping into Strange New Worlds.

Or not, but I recommend it.

And if you need semi-nudity, catch Lower Decks, you'll see the offspring of Meg Ryan and Dennis Quaid nearly showing off his censored. Or an animated Jerry O'Connell fucking a censored.

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Discovery is before Strange New Worlds?

 

I guess I need a chronology for watching.  

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1 minute ago, Elvis said:

Discovery is before Strange New Worlds?

I guess I need a chronology for watching.  

Discovery and Strange New Worlds start out running in parallel (think TNG/DS9) - Pike/Spock/Number One are introduced in season 2 of Discovery.

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Star Trek and Pink Floyd go together better than I would have believed.

 

 

[Viper 12096]

On 8/27/2024 at 1:23 AM, Elvis said:

Discovery is before Strange New Worlds?

 

I guess I need a chronology for watching.  

Discovery gets weird with the timeline, especially after season 2. I would watch season 2 where they introduce spock, pike, number 1, and Kirk and then switch to strange be worlds. After that watch the rest of discovery if you want, but it has no bearing or ties to Strange New Worlds going forward. 

There's also a fun crossover between SNW and Lower Decks. So I would say watch a few episodes of Lower Decks to get familiar with the 2 to 4 main characters. It's much better than Discovery, especially if you're a big trek fan, but it's an animated comedy so if that turns you off, not a big deal to skip. 

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28 minutes ago, Viper said:

Discovery gets weird with the timeline, especially after season 2. I would watch season 2 where they introduce spock, pike, number 1, and Kirk and then switch to strange be worlds. After that watch the rest of discovery if you want, but it has no bearing or ties to Strange New Worlds going forward. 

The only good thing about Discovery is it led to Strange New Worlds. SNW is excellent, but they have locked themselves into a stardate. How many seasons can they get out of it and what events happen in the Rodenberry Universe? I'm not Trekkie enough to know, but I do know there's a couple big fucking wars. Let's hope the studio sticks with it.

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39 minutes ago, Viper said:

Discovery gets weird with the timeline, especially after season 2

It's not THAT weird - season 1/2 are set pre-TOS and lead into SNW, then jumps to the end of the Star Trek timeline. 

At the moment, the official Trek timeline is:

Enterprise 
Discovery seasons 1
Discovery season 2 (which is fully classified, hence why it doesn't ever get mentioned except briefly in SNW)
Strange New Worlds
TOS
TAS
All the TOS cast movies (TMP to Undiscovered Country)
TNG
Generations
First Contact
Insurrection
Nemesis
DS9
Voyager
Lower Decks
Prodigy
Picard
Discovery seasons 3-5

The Kelvin movies are a different timeline where 2233 was the diverging point to the Kelvin timeline. 

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For what it's worth, I did not start Discovery until getting completely caught up on SNW, and did not find the order to be a big deal.  Just think of it as a flashback.  

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1 hour ago, idigTexas said:

For what it's worth, I did not start Discovery until getting completely caught up on SNW, and did not find the order to be a big deal.  Just think of it as a flashback.  

You definitely don't HAVE to watch Discovery season 2 before SNW, but it's good pre-SNW material.  Seeing Pike in action (with a diff crew) mostly. Doesn't matter who his crew is, he's a badass

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Best comment - it needs 7 seasons, because:

It needs to honor the TNG-era tradition of going a little off the rails in season 7. I want a baseball episode. I want the whole crew to de-volve into animals. I want two characters who have zero chemistry and no business being together to end up together at the last minute only to be quietly dropped the next time either of them show up.

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Finally finished Discovery tonight. I'm pretty sure the writers sat around in a room to decide how to end the show in the most annoying way possible. 

[kevwun 15757]

Discovery season 3 was so bad, I gave up on the show.  It's the only series I haven't watched all the way through other than the OG.

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10 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Discovery season 3 was so bad, I gave up on the show.  It's the only series I haven't watched all the way through other than the OG.

S3 was the worst one. You gave up before S4, which was such good Trek. 

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I'll have to go back at some point.  The sappy hallmark stuff with closeups to show the feels was so bad though.

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Lower Decks best episodes are when they run into Riker commanding Titan. 

He's just so over the top. I laugh every time.

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57 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Lower Decks best episodes are when they run into Riker commanding Titan. 

He's just so over the top. I laugh every time.

If you watched TNG as a kid when it first aired, and then didn’t watch it for over 30 years, his Lower Decks version probably matches what you imagine in your head.

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We need one more Picard season…with James McAvoy as Picard during his Stargazer days.  Cast Jessica Chastain as Beverly.

 

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5388]

I saw the 2017 documentary "What we left behind" yesterday after not knowing it even existed. And holy shit, if anyone ever loved DS9 and didn't know about this documentary, drop everything right now and watch it. It's not just a normal documentary, it has a purpose: get the writers back in the writing room and have them flesh out a hypothetical season 8 episode 1, set 20 years after the end of DS9. Its also the last time all the original cast would ever be united as multiple of them have since died.

Season 8 Episode 1 "What we left behind" would have been a fucking killer season premiere, like I'm actually really bummed this isn't a full revival and more isn't coming. Because the climax of the episode where

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after questioning the setup as to whether or not Kira had changed when she became Vedek, she heroically sides with her former DS9 crew mates against Bajor, as a spaghetti western standoff is occurring, Ben Sisko returns as emissary is 100% grade-A awesome fanservice goodness.

It's the closest we'll ever get to a follow up to DS9, and it's awesome.

Oh ya, link cause it's on youtube:

 

[Js1 85257]

October 24!

 

[Js1 85257]

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/star-trek-starfleet-academy-renewed-season-2-tatiana-maslany-guest-star-season-1-1236183322/

“Star Trek: Starfleet Academy” has been renewed for Season 2 at Paramount+before Season 1 even has a premiere date. 

The announcement was made as part of the “Star Trek” Universe panel at New York Comic-Con on Saturday. It was also announced at the panel that “Orphan Black” alum Tatiana Maslany is set to appear in Season 1 of the Paramount+ series in a guest star role. The exact details of the character she will be playing are being kept under wraps

[Js1 85257]

Section 31 movie with Michelle Yeoh premiers 1/24/2025 on Paramount+

Edited October 19 by Js1

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Give. How skittish they are about ST, Academy must be doing well with test audiences.  

[Drew 2401]

On 8/25/2024 at 9:45 PM, HiggyBaby said:

So, I watched the first episode of Strange New Worlds and was intrigued. So I paused that to go watch Discovery and I’m really struggling. Halfway through the first season and I can’t see any reason to keep continuing. Does it get better? Or should I just jump into Strange New Worlds and forget about it. Outside of Picard  I haven’t watched much of the new material.

Yeah unfortunately the first half of season 1 is pretty slow and/or bad...but the 2nd half really takes off. And Season 2 is probably be best.

On 8/25/2024 at 10:44 PM, atomheartbevo said:

Here's the thing - a huge chunk of Season 2 of Discovery introduces you to the Strange New Worlds crew, starting with Season 2, Episode 1.

If you are struggling with Disco, I would say watch the S2 Discovery episodes with the Enterprise cast, and when that wraps up, hop back over to Strange New Worlds.

 

At least all that.

On 8/26/2024 at 8:43 AM, thunderlounge said:

S1 takes a minute to get going. Once it does though…. Wow.

Exactly This.

On 8/26/2024 at 9:11 AM, Js1 said:

Yep. Some of the best mirror universe episodes too

Yeah always love Mirrorverse episodes...even the best Enterprise episodes were those 2 Mirrorverse ones.

On 8/26/2024 at 11:21 AM, Js1 said:

 I have watched Discovery full through twice, and some seasons 3 times.  My rankings are:

Season 2 (duh, intro of Pike/Spock/Una/Reno) 
Season 4 (most Trek-y to me)

Season 1 (best mirror universe episodes)

Season 5

 

 

 

Season 3 (ugh)

Yeah, pretty much on spot.  3 is the low point, since S1 is saved by the 2nd half.

On 8/29/2024 at 10:46 AM, RPM said:

The only good thing about Discovery is it led to Strange New Worlds. SNW is excellent, but they have locked themselves into a stardate. How many seasons can they get out of it and what events happen in the Rodenberry Universe? I'm not Trekkie enough to know, but I do know there's a couple big fucking wars. Let's hope the studio sticks with it.

Not the only...

On 9/17/2024 at 10:13 AM, Js1 said:

S3 was the worst one. You gave up before S4, which was such good Trek. 

Yep so true...the entire mystery of Season 4 was really well done.

On 9/21/2024 at 3:47 PM, MissingInAction said:

Lower Decks best episodes are when they run into Riker commanding Titan. 

He's just so over the top. I laugh every time.

Absolutely facts.  You can tell he's having the time of his life being an over the top Kirk stand in.

On 10/10/2024 at 12:40 PM, Js1 said:

October 24!

 

Gong full T'Pol is such a great call back...and relevant to this thread obvoiusly.

And a shit load of Ensign Kim's with only 1 dot...hilarious.

On 10/19/2024 at 5:38 PM, atomheartbevo said:

Give. How skittish they are about ST, Academy must be doing well with test audiences.  

Yeah for real...hasn't even hit the air waves yet.

And one of their most surprisingly good offerings, got jettisoned to Netlfix...and they're better for it.  Prodigy might look even more "kiddy" than Lower Decks, but whoever is writing for it really knows how to hit the mark in storytelling.

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1 minute ago, Drew said:

Yeah for real...hasn't even hit the air waves yet.

 

One thing I read (speculation) was that Kurtzman is on contract through 2026, so it is easier to give him Academy for 2 seasons before they fire him.  Err, not renew the contract. 

[Js1 85257]

Happy Day Before Lower Decks season 5 Day!

Episode titles have leaked:

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Dos Cerritos 10/24
Shades of Green 10/24
The Best Exotic Nanite Hotel 10/31
A Farewell to Farms 11/7
Star Base 80? 11/14
Of Gods and Angels 11/21
Fully Dilated 11/28
Upper Decks 12/5
Fissue Quest 12/12
The New Next Generation 12/19

 

[YChang 3441]

Is Lower Decks ending because the creator is done with the storytelling or Paramount is done with funding it?

[Parliament 14224]

Five seasons in to any show you start running out of good stuff.  TNG Season 6 was pretty bad.

[Js1 85257]

19 minutes ago, YChang said:

Is Lower Decks ending because the creator is done with the storytelling or Paramount is done with funding it?

Paramount def have financial trouble, but 5 is really good. Discovery also got 5 and SNW is starting it film season 4 next year so I wouldn’t be surprised if they got 5 to coincide with a 5 year mission 

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22 minutes ago, YChang said:

Is Lower Decks ending because the creator is done with the storytelling or Paramount is done with funding it?

I think the show runners decided not to push it and end it the way they wanted to.

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Paramount def have financial trouble, but 5 is really good. Discovery also got 5 and SNW is starting it film season 4 next year so I wouldn’t be surprised if they got 5 to coincide with a 5 year mission 

Yeah, no way that Paramount doesn’t go with the five year mission, given the Pike backstory.  Fans want that.

There is also the chance that Paramount will say “fuck it” and Strange New Worlds will do it’s five years and then smoothly segue into a “new” series with the start of Kirk, Uhura, Nurse Chapel, Spock, Scotty, etc.  All we are missing is Chekhov, Sulu, Rand, and Bones, and it would be easy to cast and intro those characters over the next two years of SNW, and Paramount wouldn’t have to build new sets.

Hell, I think that’s why we have Kirk and Scotty already. I bet they do it.

I never thought I’d say this, but if they give us SNW up to Pike’s disfigurement and then segue into Kirk’s Enterprise, I will watch the shit out of it. I have no idea where that thought came from, because I fucking loathe the Abrams movies, but I’m perfectly fine with them giving us a season or two of Kirk’s Enterprise.

I can’t believe I just said that.

[Js1 85257]

Fans will revolt if they try to touch TOS. It will end with handing off the ship to Kirk and that’s that

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28 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Fans will revolt if they try to touch TOS. It will end with handing off the ship to Kirk and that’s that

That makes the most sense.  Slowly introduce the TOS crew and then hit the fifth year, Pike’s accident, and then Kirk and Co. sail off into the stars. Beautiful end to SNW, would probably be the most watched episode of Trek in years.

But I can also see somebody saying “hey, we’ve got almost everybody here, let’s try an episode or two of Kirk and Friends or at least a for-TV movie like Section 31.”  Maybe give us some Gary Mitchell.