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Watching the start of the first movie without subtitles is pretty difficult, my Klingon and Vulcan are nowhere near good enough.

 

The animated series was charming in its brevity, which was appreciated.

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  On 1/18/2025 at 1:42 AM, billfromlaketravis said:

Favorite film? My brother and I watched The Voyage Home and The Undiscovered Country several thousand times growing up. 
 

The battle sequence in Undiscovered County is unparalleled in Star Trek history. The Voyage Home was such a wild premise and they pulled it off while bringing attention to whale conservation. 
 

Generations is my favorite TNG film. Obviously. 
 

I was talking about this with a coworker recently and his favorite is Khan and then First Contact. 

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Voyage Home and Undiscovered will always be my favorites...just the right time in my childhood for Whales...and I think UC is one of the most underrated movies in the entire franchise(Wrath is a great movie too)

  On 1/18/2025 at 1:44 AM, Js1 said:

Wrath, then Undiscovered Country. Special shoutout to my guilty pleasure, Insurrection 

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First Contact would be mine...

  On 1/19/2025 at 2:35 AM, atomheartbevo said:

We are getting a Deltan in the Section 31 movie

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Hope she didn't have to take the Oath to Star Fleet.  Wowza.

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Rolling Stone early review slots this between #10 Insurrection and #12 Nemesis.  

they ranked all of them

14 STV: FF
13 Into Darkness
12 Nemesis
11 Section 31
10 Insurrection
9 Generations
8 ST: TMP
7 Beyond
6 ST3: SFS
5 Star Trek (2009)
4 ST4: Voyage Home
3 First Contact
2 ST6: Undiscovered Country
1 WOK

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  On 1/22/2025 at 6:43 PM, Parliament said:

So it sucks. 

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I believe their review is that it's "harmless" 

It sounds like it's fine, but isn't groundbreaking.  Can you really expect much more from a straight to streaming movie based on a show that ended and likely doesn't really tie in much to SNW/Academy? 

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  On 1/22/2025 at 6:48 PM, Js1 said:

I believe their review is that it's "harmless" 

It sounds like it's fine, but isn't groundbreaking.  Can you really expect much more from a straight to streaming movie based on a show that ended and likely doesn't really tie in much to SNW/Academy? 

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Exactly.

and i am still going to watch it as soon as it is out. 

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  On 1/22/2025 at 6:36 PM, Js1 said:

Rolling Stone early review slots this between #10 Insurrection and #12 Nemesis.  

they ranked all of them

14 STV: FF
13 Into Darkness
12 Nemesis
11 Section 31
10 Insurrection
9 Generations
8 ST: TMP
7 Beyond
6 ST3: SFS
5 Star Trek (2009)
4 ST4: Voyage Home
3 First Contact
2 ST6: Undiscovered Country
1 WOK

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I'd put Voyage Home 3rd and ST(2009) 4th with First Contact right behind...but otherwise not a bad a list.  No real complaints.

Also, I'm glad they're higher on Beyond than most...i think that's a fun Star Trek movie more in line with one of the good single story episodes. It's better than Into Darkness for sure.  The main reason i wouldn't mind that cast doing another movie is based on how much I enjoyed that one.

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  On 1/23/2025 at 7:36 PM, thunderlounge said:


IIRC they had another one planned, until (Checkov?) died. Been crickets since. 
 

 

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Not all crickets - just a lot of non-news.  It's been 9 years though....

But yeah, Beyond was good.  Anything was better than Into Darkness.

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  On 1/23/2025 at 8:24 PM, Js1 said:

Not all crickets - just a lot of non-news.  It's been 9 years though....

But yeah, Beyond was good.  Anything was better than Into Darkness.

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That was a sad, freak deal. But sometimes shit happens.

I was kinda digging Quinto’s Spock, too. 

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Star Trek GIF

Given how much I use Swear Trek gifs, it's a wonder I've not been in this thread more.

Anyhow. Is Strange New Worlds' second season as good as the first?

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  On 1/23/2025 at 8:24 PM, Js1 said:

Not all crickets - just a lot of non-news.  It's been 9 years though....

But yeah, Beyond was good.  Anything was better than Into Darkness.

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Beyond was stupid fun. Which isn't usually ST's mode, but I still enjoyed it more than most ST flicks.

Also, ST:TMP's anniversary edition director's cut is so much better it's not even the same film as the original. You finally see what they were getting at.

also agree with ranking ST5 last... that movie was absolute ass

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  On 1/24/2025 at 12:20 AM, Rimbo said:

Also, ST:TMP's anniversary edition director's cut is so much better it's not even the same film as the original. You finally see what they were getting at.

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Praising John Goodman GIF by The Righteous Gemstones

  On 1/24/2025 at 12:20 AM, Rimbo said:

also agree with ranking ST5 last... that movie was absolute ass

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Only redeeming feature was the Romulan ambassador.

 

  On 1/24/2025 at 1:40 AM, Rimbo said:

Star Trek GIF

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It is something that has never been done in Star Trek before....

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Cho was really the only one that wasn't great casting(and I like Cho in general) but other than being asian he wasn't Sulu.

Everyone else nailed their roles especially Quinto/Pegg/Urban.

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  On 1/24/2025 at 12:26 AM, Parliament said:

Better.  You have a musical, a great time travel/alt universe and a season finale that could be its own movie.

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God I love that musical episode.  It's like my happy episode I play when I need a pick me up. 

That and the LD/SNW crossover.  

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Season 2 finale end.  Do NOT watch this if you haven't seen the whole season.  Lotsa drama leading into the last 4 minutes.  Reminds you of Best of Both Worlds 1:

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  On 1/24/2025 at 5:21 PM, Drew said:

Cho was really the only one that wasn't great casting(and I like Cho in general) but other than being asian he wasn't Sulu.

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Reeked of white boy "all Asians lol the same to me" bullshit. A Korean dude playing a Japanese character? Might as well hire an Israeli to play a Palestinian.

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  On 1/24/2025 at 8:44 PM, Rimbo said:

Reeked of white boy "all Asians lol the same to me" bullshit. A Korean dude playing a Japanese character? Might as well hire an Israeli to play a Palestinian.

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Not just that, he just didn't pull off "sulu" for me.

Urban WAS Bones.  Quinto pulled off the incredibly difficult task of being Nimoy as Spock. And Pegg as Scotty was just perfect.

No Chris Pine isn't the same as Shatner...but the playboy charming charisma of Kirk? Yeah Pine has that in spades.

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Is this the first Star Trek that we’ve seen anal sex in since Riker banged the Kalaxian in that TNG season 3 episode?  And even then it wasn’t shown like it was here, just hinted at, and Riker didn’t know Kalaxians had two anuses instead of an anus and a vagina.

Edit: Whoops, not Star Trek Section 31.

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You can tell this was supposed to be a series, and a very lightweight series at that.  This was done by somebody who thought it would be funny to have a fucking Irish Vulcan, rather than somebody who had a reverence for ST.

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  On 1/25/2025 at 6:01 AM, atomheartbevo said:

You can tell this was supposed to be a series, and a very lightweight series at that.  This was done by somebody who thought it would be funny to have a fucking Irish Vulcan, rather than somebody who had a reverence for ST.

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Probably to match the Irish Romulans from Picard. 

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watched Section 31, i'm not sure why Rolling Stone has it rated so high.

the team reminded me of The Island of Misfit Toys for some reason...

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https://theonion.com/when-we-invited-you-to-join-our-trivia-team-it-was-with-the-understanding-that-you-knew-star-trek/

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Episode 7 Wow GIF by Wrexham AFC
 

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-original-vision-changes-bryan-fuller-explainer/

Every Star Trek: Discovery Change From Its Original Vision Its Series Creator Just Revealed

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Star Trek: Discovery's series creator, Bryan Fuller, reveals how different his original vision was from the series that eventually happened. In early 2016, Fuller was named as the executive producer of the first Star Trek TV series since Star Trek: Enterprise was canceled in 2005. Discovery was also the first Star Trek series made for streaming as one of the flagship shows for CBS All-Access before it was rebranded into Paramount+

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However, by the end of 2016, Bryan Fuller left Star Trek: Discovery due to "creative differences." Gretchen J. Berg and Aaron Harberts took over as Star Trek: Discovery season 1's showrunners (although they were also replaced at the end of the season), with Alex Kurtzman and his Secret Hideout production company executive producing all Star Trek projects on Paramount+. Controversial since its inception, Star Trek: Discovery proved to be a success, running for 5 seasons and spawning multiple Star Trek on Paramount+ series and even a Star Trek streaming movie.

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Bryan Fuller was a guest on The D-Con Chamber podcast hosted by Star Trek: Enterprise's Connor Trinneer and Dominic Keating. In a wide-ranging discussion about his celebrated writing career as a writer on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Voyager, as well as creating the hit TV series Pushing Daises and Hannibal, Fuller dropped some bombshells about his original vision for Star Trek: Discovery. Initially planned as an anthology series with season 1 telling a self-contained story, Star Trek: Discovery radically evolved in multiple ways

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  • CBS Studios resisted his choice of Sonequa Martin-Green as Michael Burnham
  • Richard Armitage Was In Talks To Play Sarek
  • Gillian Anderson Was Going To Play A Starfleet Captain
  • Anthony Rapp Was Cast As An Andorian Doctor Instead Of Lt. Paul Stamets
  • Wilson Cruz Was Originally Going To Play Lt. Paul Stamets
  • Hugh Dancy Had An Unknown Star Trek: Discovery Role
  • Laurence Fishburne Was Eyed To Play A Klingon
  • Star Trek: Discovery’s Starfleet Uniforms & Klingons Were The Opposite Of What Bryan Fuller Wanted
  • Star Trek: Discovery’s Original Budget Was Too Low - Bryan Fuller Compared Discovery's Original Budget To Hawaii Five-0
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  On 2/10/2025 at 2:50 AM, Parliament said:

Any comment on preachy scripts, shitty characters or slow plots?

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I liked his work on DS9 and Voyager and loved Dead Like Me, Pushing Daisies, both of which he created and which had great dialogue, great characters and great plots, and liked his work on Heroes in the first few seasons.  He wrote or co-wrote a few dozen Voyager episodes.

If I had to guess, he’s hoping to come back at some point, so some criticisms he’s keeping to himself. He’s a huge Trekkie.

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