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Watching the start of the first movie without subtitles is pretty difficult, my Klingon and Vulcan are nowhere near good enough.

 

The animated series was charming in its brevity, which was appreciated.

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On 1/17/2025 at 7:42 PM, billfromlaketravis said:

Favorite film? My brother and I watched The Voyage Home and The Undiscovered Country several thousand times growing up. 
 

The battle sequence in Undiscovered County is unparalleled in Star Trek history. The Voyage Home was such a wild premise and they pulled it off while bringing attention to whale conservation. 
 

Generations is my favorite TNG film. Obviously. 
 

I was talking about this with a coworker recently and his favorite is Khan and then First Contact. 

Voyage Home and Undiscovered will always be my favorites...just the right time in my childhood for Whales...and I think UC is one of the most underrated movies in the entire franchise(Wrath is a great movie too)

On 1/17/2025 at 7:44 PM, Js1 said:

Wrath, then Undiscovered Country. Special shoutout to my guilty pleasure, Insurrection 

First Contact would be mine...

On 1/18/2025 at 8:35 PM, atomheartbevo said:

We are getting a Deltan in the Section 31 movie

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Hope she didn't have to take the Oath to Star Fleet.  Wowza.

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Rolling Stone early review slots this between #10 Insurrection and #12 Nemesis.  

they ranked all of them

14 STV: FF
13 Into Darkness
12 Nemesis
11 Section 31
10 Insurrection
9 Generations
8 ST: TMP
7 Beyond
6 ST3: SFS
5 Star Trek (2009)
4 ST4: Voyage Home
3 First Contact
2 ST6: Undiscovered Country
1 WOK

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5 minutes ago, Parliament said:

So it sucks. 

I believe their review is that it's "harmless" 

It sounds like it's fine, but isn't groundbreaking.  Can you really expect much more from a straight to streaming movie based on a show that ended and likely doesn't really tie in much to SNW/Academy? 

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

I believe their review is that it's "harmless" 

It sounds like it's fine, but isn't groundbreaking.  Can you really expect much more from a straight to streaming movie based on a show that ended and likely doesn't really tie in much to SNW/Academy? 

Exactly.

and i am still going to watch it as soon as it is out. 

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8 minutes ago, hornbri said:

Exactly.

and i am still going to watch it as soon as it is out. 

Same. It’s my Friday night plan 

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23 hours ago, Js1 said:

Rolling Stone early review slots this between #10 Insurrection and #12 Nemesis.  

they ranked all of them

14 STV: FF
13 Into Darkness
12 Nemesis
11 Section 31
10 Insurrection
9 Generations
8 ST: TMP
7 Beyond
6 ST3: SFS
5 Star Trek (2009)
4 ST4: Voyage Home
3 First Contact
2 ST6: Undiscovered Country
1 WOK

I'd put Voyage Home 3rd and ST(2009) 4th with First Contact right behind...but otherwise not a bad a list.  No real complaints.

Also, I'm glad they're higher on Beyond than most...i think that's a fun Star Trek movie more in line with one of the good single story episodes. It's better than Into Darkness for sure.  The main reason i wouldn't mind that cast doing another movie is based on how much I enjoyed that one.

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1 hour ago, Drew said:

The main reason i wouldn't mind that cast doing another movie is based on how much I enjoyed that one.


IIRC they had another one planned, until (Checkov?) died. Been crickets since. 
 

 

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47 minutes ago, thunderlounge said:


IIRC they had another one planned, until (Checkov?) died. Been crickets since. 
 

 

Not all crickets - just a lot of non-news.  It's been 9 years though....

But yeah, Beyond was good.  Anything was better than Into Darkness.

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2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Not all crickets - just a lot of non-news.  It's been 9 years though....

But yeah, Beyond was good.  Anything was better than Into Darkness.


That was a sad, freak deal. But sometimes shit happens.

I was kinda digging Quinto’s Spock, too. 

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Star Trek GIF

Given how much I use Swear Trek gifs, it's a wonder I've not been in this thread more.

Anyhow. Is Strange New Worlds' second season as good as the first?

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3 hours ago, Js1 said:

Not all crickets - just a lot of non-news.  It's been 9 years though....

But yeah, Beyond was good.  Anything was better than Into Darkness.

Beyond was stupid fun. Which isn't usually ST's mode, but I still enjoyed it more than most ST flicks.

Also, ST:TMP's anniversary edition director's cut is so much better it's not even the same film as the original. You finally see what they were getting at.

also agree with ranking ST5 last... that movie was absolute ass

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7 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Star Trek GIF

Anyhow. Is Strange New Worlds' second season as good as the first?

Better.  You have a musical, a great time travel/alt universe and a season finale that could be its own movie.

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1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Better.  You have a musical, a great time travel/alt universe and a season finale that could be its own movie.

Star Trek GIF

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4 hours ago, Rimbo said:

Also, ST:TMP's anniversary edition director's cut is so much better it's not even the same film as the original. You finally see what they were getting at.

Praising John Goodman GIF by The Righteous Gemstones

4 hours ago, Rimbo said:

also agree with ranking ST5 last... that movie was absolute ass

Only redeeming feature was the Romulan ambassador.

 

3 hours ago, Rimbo said:

Star Trek GIF

It is something that has never been done in Star Trek before....

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Cho was really the only one that wasn't great casting(and I like Cho in general) but other than being asian he wasn't Sulu.

Everyone else nailed their roles especially Quinto/Pegg/Urban.

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18 hours ago, Parliament said:

Better.  You have a musical, a great time travel/alt universe and a season finale that could be its own movie.

God I love that musical episode.  It's like my happy episode I play when I need a pick me up. 

That and the LD/SNW crossover.  

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Season 2 finale end.  Do NOT watch this if you haven't seen the whole season.  Lotsa drama leading into the last 4 minutes.  Reminds you of Best of Both Worlds 1:

Spoiler

 

 

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3 hours ago, Drew said:

Cho was really the only one that wasn't great casting(and I like Cho in general) but other than being asian he wasn't Sulu.

Reeked of white boy "all Asians lol the same to me" bullshit. A Korean dude playing a Japanese character? Might as well hire an Israeli to play a Palestinian.

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24 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Reeked of white boy "all Asians lol the same to me" bullshit. A Korean dude playing a Japanese character? Might as well hire an Israeli to play a Palestinian.

Not just that, he just didn't pull off "sulu" for me.

Urban WAS Bones.  Quinto pulled off the incredibly difficult task of being Nimoy as Spock. And Pegg as Scotty was just perfect.

No Chris Pine isn't the same as Shatner...but the playboy charming charisma of Kirk? Yeah Pine has that in spades.

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30 minutes ago, Js1 said:

That was a stupidly harmless yet slightly enjoyable movie 

I may watch it, but only because I'm a massive Michelle Yeoh simp.

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Is this the first Star Trek that we’ve seen anal sex in since Riker banged the Kalaxian in that TNG season 3 episode?  And even then it wasn’t shown like it was here, just hinted at, and Riker didn’t know Kalaxians had two anuses instead of an anus and a vagina.

Edit: Whoops, not Star Trek Section 31.

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You can tell this was supposed to be a series, and a very lightweight series at that.  This was done by somebody who thought it would be funny to have a fucking Irish Vulcan, rather than somebody who had a reverence for ST.

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6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

You can tell this was supposed to be a series, and a very lightweight series at that.  This was done by somebody who thought it would be funny to have a fucking Irish Vulcan, rather than somebody who had a reverence for ST.

Probably to match the Irish Romulans from Picard. 

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watched Section 31, i'm not sure why Rolling Stone has it rated so high.

the team reminded me of The Island of Misfit Toys for some reason...

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https://theonion.com/when-we-invited-you-to-join-our-trivia-team-it-was-with-the-understanding-that-you-knew-star-trek/

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When We Invited You To Join Our Trivia Team, It Was With The Understanding That You Knew ‘Star Trek’

By Larry Groznic

 

Published:

January 30, 2025
 
  Larry Groznic

Well, I hope you’re proud of yourself, Rich. Our team trusted you with the privilege of proving yourself on Trivia Hell Night. But after last night’s demeaning spectacle, I doubt we can ever go back to Sharlene’s Bar without recalling the deep humiliation you brought upon us all. After tanking a Star Trek round with a full four questions whiffed, I feel more shame than Spock in “The Naked Time.”

I want to speak plainly and clearly—not rage like a wild mugato—and I cannot say my piece any more plainly than this, Rich: When we extended our invitation, not a week ago, for you to fill the empty slot on the Knowblemen while Andrew was out of town for Comic Con, it was because we trusted your fervent assurances that you were well-versed in Star Trek lore, inside and out, with a special emphasis on 21st-century Trek.

What did we witness instead, Rich? A deeply disappointing display of Trek knowledge in the all-too-critical Week 8 of our 13-week trivia season. At this point, our longstanding nemeses the Man-DeLoreans will have to meet the business end of an ahn-woon for us to have a chance at winning it all.

I thought I was very clear with you that Trivia Hell was guaranteed to have a generous dose of Trek questions, and that the Quizmonster has a boner for NuTrek, often dipping into it for his hardest, most herd-culling questions. I was quite emphatic that Andrew is the only team member who is not too busy elsewhere to give Prodigy, Strange New Worlds, and Picard the deep scrutiny they deserve. And you? You swore up and down that you were—to use your exact words—“into all that.” Well, next time we’ll just have to prepare a written quiz before capriciously welcoming newcomers.

You certainly knew your stuff when it came to “The Lights Of Zetar,” the Rozhenko family, the Dominion War, and Delta Quadrant geography, making you both a vintage Trek fan in good standing and utterly redundant on our team.

Let us review just some of the subjects that gave you trouble, Rich: the name of Captain Archer’s dog, the actor who plays Keenser (No, Rich, it was not Verne Troyer. It was not Verne Troyer at all), and who made up the bridge crew of the USS Discovery. They were asking for the crew’s names, mind you—not, say, their blood types or their extracurricular activities at Starfleet Academy. Needless to say, once the match got serious in the second half, you fell apart completely on questions about Rok-Tahk’s backstory and the properties of horonium, turning what should have been a night of triumph and glory into a humiliating Kobayashi Maru scenario, as tortuous as a weekend with Gul Madred.

It is only because Geoff happened to remember details of “Forget Me Not”—and that was only because Andrew never shuts up about that episode—that we even squeaked into third place, meaning that not only the Man-DeLoreans surpassed us, but we even came in behind the Non-Fungible Tolkiens, a team of dilettantes who don’t even have a particularly strong Babylon 5 expert.

This humiliating evening left us holding a mere $10 Dunkin’ gift card for a full night’s work. Not exactly a crate of gold-pressed latinum!

We are a reasonable trivia team, Rich. We do not demand you bring us a positronic brain with 800 quadrillion bits of storage. No one expected you to have memorized the registry numbers of the USS Kimura. Nor do we punish the occasional mental hiccup. I myself, back when I was Scrivener and Star Wars expert on the Memory Asswipes, kept my team out of the finals by momentarily forgetting the 1970s animated Trek series, for I am human. But we cannot be bamboozled into believing you have broad and deep knowledge of contemporary Star Trek just because you’ve watched the occasional Lower Decks episode—what manner of Pakleds do you take us for?

Perhaps I share the blame, here: I should have sensed trouble after you blinked uncomprehendingly when I invited you to my Bell Riots party in September. Or when, in a discussion of the film series at that party, you referred to Into Darkness as “the Benedict Cumberbatch one.” Hardly the words of someone who’s internalized the Star Trek universe as if it were their own life.

Incidentally, I saw you flirting with the waitress nearly as much as you were considering the questions. Is that what this was about—worming your way onto our team to hit on a girl like a lowly Ferengi? Knowblemen are to pon farr on their own time, Rich. We are an elite bar-trivia team focused on no less than total, devastating victory and the supreme prize of a $25 discount on our bar tab.

Had this gone well, we were considering asking you to join us next month for Trivia Combat starring General Knowledge, where teams of up to six are allowed. You are, after all, very strong on Harry Potter trivia. If only we could Tuvix you and Andrew into one body, we’d be unbeatable. But now? The critical bonds of trust have been shattered like the Crystalline Entity. One day we may get past this—maybe we’ll even laugh like Kirk and Kang in “Day Of The Dove”—but the crude, Berlinghoff Rasmussen–level con you foisted on us last night is, for now, a grave offense.

But perhaps the worst wound of all is that you treated trivia as if it were unimportant.

Larry Groznic is a noted fan-community luminary and sought-after expert on the topics of British television, spy-fi memorabilia, cosplay, RPG adventuring, and limited-edition collectible maquettes. He lives in Cedar Rapids, IA, and is single.

 

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https://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-original-vision-changes-bryan-fuller-explainer/

Every Star Trek: Discovery Change From Its Original Vision Its Series Creator Just Revealed

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Star Trek: Discovery's series creator, Bryan Fuller, reveals how different his original vision was from the series that eventually happened. In early 2016, Fuller was named as the executive producer of the first Star Trek TV series since Star Trek: Enterprise was canceled in 2005. Discovery was also the first Star Trek series made for streaming as one of the flagship shows for CBS All-Access before it was rebranded into Paramount+

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However, by the end of 2016, Bryan Fuller left Star Trek: Discovery due to "creative differences." Gretchen J. Berg and Aaron Harberts took over as Star Trek: Discovery season 1's showrunners (although they were also replaced at the end of the season), with Alex Kurtzman and his Secret Hideout production company executive producing all Star Trek projects on Paramount+. Controversial since its inception, Star Trek: Discovery proved to be a success, running for 5 seasons and spawning multiple Star Trek on Paramount+ series and even a Star Trek streaming movie.

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Bryan Fuller was a guest on The D-Con Chamber podcast hosted by Star Trek: Enterprise's Connor Trinneer and Dominic Keating. In a wide-ranging discussion about his celebrated writing career as a writer on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Voyager, as well as creating the hit TV series Pushing Daises and Hannibal, Fuller dropped some bombshells about his original vision for Star Trek: Discovery. Initially planned as an anthology series with season 1 telling a self-contained story, Star Trek: Discovery radically evolved in multiple ways

  • CBS Studios resisted his choice of Sonequa Martin-Green as Michael Burnham
  • Richard Armitage Was In Talks To Play Sarek
  • Gillian Anderson Was Going To Play A Starfleet Captain
  • Anthony Rapp Was Cast As An Andorian Doctor Instead Of Lt. Paul Stamets
  • Wilson Cruz Was Originally Going To Play Lt. Paul Stamets
  • Hugh Dancy Had An Unknown Star Trek: Discovery Role
  • Laurence Fishburne Was Eyed To Play A Klingon
  • Star Trek: Discovery’s Starfleet Uniforms & Klingons Were The Opposite Of What Bryan Fuller Wanted
  • Star Trek: Discovery’s Original Budget Was Too Low - Bryan Fuller Compared Discovery's Original Budget To Hawaii Five-0
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3 hours ago, Parliament said:

Any comment on preachy scripts, shitty characters or slow plots?

I liked his work on DS9 and Voyager and loved Dead Like Me, Pushing Daisies, both of which he created and which had great dialogue, great characters and great plots, and liked his work on Heroes in the first few seasons.  He wrote or co-wrote a few dozen Voyager episodes.

If I had to guess, he’s hoping to come back at some point, so some criticisms he’s keeping to himself. He’s a huge Trekkie.

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