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Robert Griffin III as a college football analyst is...FIRED BY ESPN


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4 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

please explain, in a way someone sober would understand, how these things are supposed to be comparable or analogous?

His cancel culture comment was in response to (my response was based on the ‘single flub’ part):

A persons character — the body of their historical conduct — and what can reasonably be inferred as their intent (did they aim to demean or harm?) matters a great deal more than a single flub 

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5 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Bug vs jig. I have never said jig in place of bug. If he said 'Jugaboo' then maybe. But bug and jig don't sound that much alike to have one slip for the other. This word is in his vocabulary. Bug A Boo is also a word no one uses. I don't really buy his reasoning.

But either way, he said the word on live tv. 

Boo vs boo. 

What law are you positing that would require mistakenly used words to begin the same, rather than end the same, rhyme, or whatever other pattern that might cause the brain to pull up one rather than another while speaking extemporaneously?

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5 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

His cancel culture comment was in response to (my response was based on the ‘single flub’ part):

A persons character — the body of their historical conduct — and what can reasonably be inferred as their intent (did they aim to demean or harm?) matters a great deal more than a single flub 

I dont think Chris Beard had the intent of giving someone a warm hug, during which his hands accidentally slipped and fell around their neck instead  

I could be wrong - i didnt follow bball that closely. 

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20 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

Man, I guess it was a West Texas thing but I’m 56 and the (unfortunately numerous) racist branches of my family tree used that word (usually in abbreviated form) frequently. It was one of several phrases people used in place of the hard N because good Baptists aren’t hateful….

When I was a kid and watched the cowboys games with my drunk uncle, he called the players every slur in the book. 

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59 minutes ago, Ignatius said:

Man, I guess it was a West Texas thing but I’m 56 and the (unfortunately numerous) racist branches of my family tree used that word (usually in abbreviated form) frequently. It was one of several phrases people used in place of the hard N because good Baptists aren’t hateful….

We might be related. Sorry.

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7 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I'm kinda surprised you guys hate RGIII as a media personality.  During the ISU/Texas game he acted like he'd been a lifelong Horn just reveling in the greatness and prestige of your various traditions.  I get that what's guys doing his job do, but given the disdain between UT and BU it was jarring.

If I were a Baylor fan/alum (barf) I'd have been apoplectic.

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I'm a mid-50 white guy that works in the technology field, and I have _never_ heard that word used in person or seen it in print.  I did, back in the day, see Police Academy, so I as the clip above proves, I have heard that word before.   I'm sure I assumed that they made up a word to use in place of the N word. 

There are probably dozens (hundreds) of old words-of-hate sitting out there... It's not a bad thing that people don't know them anymore.

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8 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Eh.  I actually have no problem believing that he was thinking of "bug-a-boo" in the context of what he was trying to say.   Much ado about not much, IMO. 

Bug-a-boo can mean hobgoblin. Not cool, man. 

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When I was a kid we knew the word in the neighborhood but none of us knew it had any racist meaning. I think one kid heard it in a movie, started calling us that, and it's a funny sounding word so we just called each other jiggaboos for fun. Never knew it was racist until I heard it in a movie in that context in my 20s or late teens. 

But that's a weird word to just randomly say. And bugaboo has always meant a mistake but like with stuff like "cap" the black community might have taken it and adopted it into their own language. I have no idea and don't really care, but for purposes of things like tv and media if one person would get fired for saying it everyone should get fired for saying it. 

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2 hours ago, Homercles said:

His first wife had great tits.  That’s always occupied the priority 1 slot in my brain when I think about RGIII.  

You have 5000 posts, but don't know Rule #1 of Surly?

3 hours ago, bullet said:

When has that mattered to cancel culture?

Oh, shut the fuck up

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5 hours ago, Helobious said:

I guess I just dreamt Kanye losing all those endorsements then…

Big difference. I don't recall Ye using a derogatory term about his own race. Doubt very seriously if he would have lost all those endorsements if he just used the J word. I guess he got in pretty big trouble for the White Lives Matter t-shirt though.

Dammit RGIII! You brought back a word most people either haven't heard in years or never heard at all.

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I kind of like him too. He generally means well and just tries too hard sometimes with his commentary, which is driven by the incentive structure to stand out in that profession. His line after Roschon hurdled the defender on the way to the end zone in the Baylor game as a “Johnson on Johnson crime” was a good one. 

That sounded like a cock fight.
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12 hours ago, Darth Tron said:

Totally thought I was going to hear something else when I pressed play.

And by a, um, certain important Surly member. Damn you, again, reading comprehension!!

 

Also, it's very amusing seeing posters want him gone that argued with me how awesome it was for him to be an announcer for one of our games instead of Sam Acho. 

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8 hours ago, gmr548 said:

There’s a really interesting generational/cultural split on display here.

I definitely heard it growing up, but never as a way to disparage blacks as a group.  I'm not quite sure when I even discovered it was a racial slur.  It was used pretty much exactly like RG3 used it.  Disparaging someone who was a trash-talker, showy, or flamboyant in some other manner.

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15 hours ago, C-Man said:

Don was fired after calling the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy-headed hoes."

And seconds later said their game was “the Jiga___s vs. the Wannabes” referring to the Spike Lee movie. I’ve always been surprised people don’t remember that, I though it was way worse.

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11 hours ago, Hermanator said:

When I was a kid we knew the word in the neighborhood but none of us knew it had any racist meaning. I think one kid heard it in a movie, started calling us that, and it's a funny sounding word so we just called each other jiggaboos for fun. Never knew it was racist until I heard it in a movie in that context in my 20s or late teens. 

But that's a weird word to just randomly say. And bugaboo has always meant a mistake but like with stuff like "cap" the black community might have taken it and adopted it into their own language. I have no idea and don't really care, but for purposes of things like tv and media if one person would get fired for saying it everyone should get fired for saying it. 

I went to high school in the mean streets of a poor Tulsa suburb, so I think I’ve heard them all, and I think most people knew what they meant. The only one I learned later in life was the racist term for Brazilian nuts, but I think only really old people used that one. There are also stories like this where the kids don’t know but the grown ups do and never correct it, because they are okay with it or indifferent. 

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