Taylor Sheridan - Tulsa King

[GreenspointTexas 9609]

Paramount + Nov 13

 

 

[Parliament 14260]

Is this "Good Sheridan" like Sicario, Hell or High Water, etc."  Or Bad Sheridan like Yellowstone?

Edited October 18, 2022 by Parliament

[RPM 26322]

I really, really want to hate this. 

[oSuJeff97 3435]

Yeah we'll see.

They actually shot some of this on location in Tulsa earlier this year.  We'll see how cringy it is.  The shots of the woman the horse in a pasture makes me nervous..

I mean Tulsa is a mid-sized city with a metro area of ~1 million people, not fucking small rural town with horses and shit.  You have to drive like 40 minutes from the main part of the city to find something like that.

[wutang75 449]

Is this "Good Sheridan" like Sicario, Hell or High Water, etc."  Or Bad Sheridan like Yellowstone?

Or “Great Sheridan” like Wind River.


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[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

1 hour ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Yeah we'll see.

They actually shot some of this on location in Tulsa earlier this year.  We'll see how cringy it is.  The shots of the woman the horse in a pasture makes me nervous..

I mean Tulsa is a mid-sized city with a metro area of ~1 million people, not fucking small rural town with horses and shit.  You have to drive like 40 minutes from the main part of the city to find something like that.

It looks like it is set in the present, so I agree that if they try and portray it that way (small rural town) that is inaccurate. However, until the southern suburbs exploded, all the land in between say, 101st and Bixby was mostly truck farms and horse pasture. My dad had land south of where the Creek Turnpike is now, and it is all strip malls and fancy houses out there now.  Most of that is likely due to them getting the river bridges built, extending Riverside Pkwy, and the above mentioned turnpike. It took a lot longer to navigate that side of the city when I was younger. At least that is in my memory, which admittedly is hazier as each day passes. To the west near Turkey Mountain where they built all the big box stores was nothing for years and years when I was growing up. One of my friends was from Turley and it was like night and day, her experience growing up and mine but we could relate because my folks were from nearby Sand Springs and we would drive over the river every weekend. Tulsa is such a weird blend of cosmopolitan and, for lack of a better word--redneck attitude, and wealth and poverty-like a lot of cities but with its own flair.

@Patricio Swayze would have a field day with his camera in my hometown.

 

 

['stache 21818]

2 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Yeah we'll see.

They actually shot some of this on location in Tulsa earlier this year.  We'll see how cringy it is.  The shots of the woman the horse in a pasture makes me nervous..

I mean Tulsa is a mid-sized city with a metro area of ~1 million people, not fucking small rural town with horses and shit.  You have to drive like 40 minutes from the main part of the city to find something like that.

I mean there are stables in the suburbs not that far away so that's not too concerning. They did show the skyline so it's not like they can pretend we're not a real city. My bigger concern is the portrayal of him in a dive bar and sarcastically asking for a Chianti, as if that's all we have around here. Again, we're a big enough city we have plenty of fancy bars and restaurants. If anything we have too many places trying to sling $12-$15 cocktails. Mobsters in the movies always find fancy places to eat and drink, I can name a dozen places that would fit around here, not some shitty smoke hole. My best guess is he buys it and uses it for money laundering. I also wonder how absurd they might get with the medical marijuana shop. Like the Martin Starr character says, it's legal, but there have been some large busts of contraband weed around here that I guess is to avoid taxes? I've never followed up on why there would be any need to smuggle illegal pot into this state. Every pothead I know has tried to be a "grower" and most have been shoved out of the market by larger commercial growers within the state that do it legally. Additionally, I obviously don't live in this world, but I have heard of motorcycle gangs doing organized crime and human trafficking. The rest of the gang stuff here is like most of the south, remnants of bloods and crips who don't really operate like the mob, just fight over "turf" and nonsense. Either way, I'm in for obvious reasons, and think it will be good enough to keep my attention.  

Edited October 18, 2022 by 'stache

[Lat22 4014]

Why does that guy irritate me so much?

[oSuJeff97 3435]

36 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I mean there are stables in the suburbs not that far away so that's not too concerning. They did show the skyline so it's not like they can pretend we're not a real city. My bigger concern is the portrayal of him in a dive bar and sarcastically asking for a Chianti, as if that's all we have around here. Again, we're a big enough city we have plenty of fancy bars and restaurants. If anything we have too many places trying to sling $12-$15 cocktails. Mobsters in the movies always find fancy places to eat and drink, I can name a dozen places that would fit around here, not some shitty smoke hole. My best guess is he buys it and uses it for money laundering. I also wonder how absurd they might get with the medical marijuana shop. Like the Martin Starr character says, it's legal, but there have been some large busts of contraband weed around here that I guess is to avoid taxes? I've never followed up on why there would be any need to smuggle illegal pot into this state. Every pothead I know has tried to be a "grower" and most have been shoved out of the market by larger commercial growers within the state that do it legally. Additionally, I obviously don't live in this world, but I have heard of motorcycle gangs doing organized crime and human trafficking. The rest of the gang stuff here is like most of the south, remnants of bloods and crips who don't really operate like the mob, just fight over "turf" and nonsense. Either way, I'm in for obvious reasons, and think it will be good enough to keep my attention.  

All good points.

The concerning part is just that's the immediate "go-to"... "Oh look we're in Oklahoma, there must be horses and stables..."

But then it's not any more ridiculous than just about any other portrayal of any city... I mean that Austin Fire Department show with Rob Lowe is off the rails horri-bad also. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

46 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I mean there are stables in the suburbs not that far away so that's not too concerning. They did show the skyline so it's not like they can pretend we're not a real city. My bigger concern is the portrayal of him in a dive bar and sarcastically asking for a Chianti, as if that's all we have around here. Again, we're a big enough city we have plenty of fancy bars and restaurants. If anything we have too many places trying to sling $12-$15 cocktails. Mobsters in the movies always find fancy places to eat and drink, I can name a dozen places that would fit around here, not some shitty smoke hole. My best guess is he buys it and uses it for money laundering. I also wonder how absurd they might get with the medical marijuana shop. Like the Martin Starr character says, it's legal, but there have been some large busts of contraband weed around here that I guess is to avoid taxes? I've never followed up on why there would be any need to smuggle illegal pot into this state. Every pothead I know has tried to be a "grower" and most have been shoved out of the market by larger commercial growers within the state that do it legally. Additionally, I obviously don't live in this world, but I have heard of motorcycle gangs doing organized crime and human trafficking. The rest of the gang stuff here is like most of the south, remnants of bloods and crips who don't really operate like the mob, just fight over "turf" and nonsense. Either way, I'm in for obvious reasons, and think it will be good enough to keep my attention.  

Hard to tell from the trailer, be interesting to see if they use the casino.

[Jerry Callo 8704]

My aunt and uncle lived a block away from the Admiral Twin drive-in, so this hits close to home.  As did The Outsiders.

[C-Man 27230]

2 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said:

All good points.

The concerning part is just that's the immediate "go-to"... "Oh look we're in Oklahoma, there must be horses and stables..."

But then it's not any more ridiculous than just about any other portrayal of any city... I mean that Austin Fire Department show with Rob Lowe is off the rails horri-bad also. 

Hell, you don't have to go more than 10-15 miles (maybe not even that far) from downtown Dallas to find properties with horses on them.

Based on the devolution of Yellowstone, I don't expect this to be that great.

[Neonmoon 38129]

Surprised this isn’t on CBS. Hard pass

[Buzzrock 14922]

Is this "Good Sheridan" like Sicario, Hell or High Water, etc."  Or Bad Sheridan like Yellowstone?

Which one has made more money?

There’s your answer.

[futureman 22472]

Wind River, Hell or High Water, and Sicario were so great.  Hope he can produce something on that level again.

Although Sicario being good had a lot to do with Denis Villeneuve. 

[rage-a-holic 4402]

16 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Which one has made more money?

There’s your answer.

Yellowstone is on a streaming service; hard to determine how much a single show "made" on a service with hundreds of offerings. 

[Buzzrock 14922]

$100M

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/paramount-networks-yellowstone-tracks-100-million-in-transactional-revenue-to-rank-no-1-selling-show-in-2021/

Sicario and Wind River made about that combined.

[rage-a-holic 4402]

10 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

$100M

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/paramount-networks-yellowstone-tracks-100-million-in-transactional-revenue-to-rank-no-1-selling-show-in-2021/

Sicario and Wind River made about that combined.

I think those numbers are seriously inflated, but not my circus

[Buzzrock 14922]

Regardless, I think we’re in for more Yellowstone style TS. 

[Gene Parmesan 4008]

19 hours ago, rage-a-holic said:

Yellowstone is on a streaming service; hard to determine how much a single show "made" on a service with hundreds of offerings. 

I think it started on the paramount channel.  I have no idea if it still plays there or if it's strictly streaming.  So there was some ad revenue at one point.  YS is huge though, way more mainstream than any of his movies which were very niche (but still awesome).  Never seen a second of YS, but it's got to be big if my FIL watches it who I'd often find watching the SD version of a channel.

[rage-a-holic 4402]

11 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

I think it started on the paramount channel.  I have no idea if it still plays there or if it's strictly streaming.  So there was some ad revenue at one point.  YS is huge though, way more mainstream than any of his movies which were very niche (but still awesome).  Never seen a second of YS, but it's got to be big if my FIL watches it who I'd often find watching the SD version of a channel.

My anecdotal evidence is my friends/family: I have a large extended family and a bunch of friends that watch YS. Out of those 20+ adults, only 2 of them actually pay for Paramount, the rest watched it at a friends/via shared or borrowed account/IPTV/torrent/etc. I'm betting that ratio of 10:1 viewer to paid subscriber is pretty representative, which is why I question their numbers.

[C-Man 27230]

42 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

I think it started on the paramount channel.  I have no idea if it still plays there or if it's strictly streaming.  So there was some ad revenue at one point.  YS is huge though, way more mainstream than any of his movies which were very niche (but still awesome).  Never seen a second of YS, but it's got to be big if my FIL watches it who I'd often find watching the SD version of a channel.

Yellowstone started on Paramount and is still on that network. The prequel series with Tim McGraw and Faith Hill was streaming-only on Paramount Plus.

[billfromlaketravis 11510]

We're never getting a Campisis running Dallas show are we? 

[DDD Dad 14339]

On 10/18/2022 at 10:19 AM, Parliament said:

Is this "Good Sheridan" like Sicario, Hell or High Water, etc."  Or Bad Sheridan like Yellowstone?

Based on his progression it's likely Bad Sheridan.

On 10/18/2022 at 12:26 PM, wutang75 said:

 

Or “Great Sheridan” like Wind River.


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Indeed.

On 10/18/2022 at 2:29 PM, Lat22 said:

Why does that guy irritate me so much?

Because he's a self-indulgent douchebag who happened to make some really good films early on.