2022-2023 Dallas Mavericks season thread: Luka's first MVP

[Henry Hill 3156]

Want to see them hold this 20-point lead. Hasn’t exactly been their m.o. this year. Would be another great team victory with Luka out.

[Henry Hill 3156]

Winning is fun. Let’s sweep the series mañana. Luka expected to play but we’ll see.

 

[CowtownHorn 5126]

The bench has been 🔥. Won’t be long before Hardy and Green are stars in the league. 

[RexWilson 1346]

Mavs are interested in signing Terrance Ross now that he is bought out. 

[UncleSonny 6570]

18 hours ago, Porterhouse said:

Yeah, Christian Wood definitely isn’t capable of being a starter. Mavs are certainly trying to move him. Lulz. 

I didn’t catch the game last night, but that must have been the most impressive 12 minutes of all time

[Henry Hill 3156]

3 hours ago, RexWilson said:

Mavs are interested in signing Terrance Ross now that he is bought out. 

Would be a welcome addition. We need more depth.

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2 hours ago, UncleSonny said:

I didn’t catch the game last night, but that must have been the most impressive 12 minutes of all time

He had 13 points in 6 first quarter minutes. He’s 3 games back into a long injury lay-off. Before that he was starting and averaging 23 and 13 in his last several starts. Mavs clearly wanted to move him. 

[UncleSonny 6570]

1 hour ago, Porterhouse said:

He had 13 points in 6 first quarter minutes. He’s 3 games back into a long injury lay-off. Before that he was starting and averaging 23 and 13 in his last several starts. Mavs clearly wanted to move him. 

Christ, it’s not my opinion that the Mavs were shopping him. It was widely reported by NBA writers, including Mark Stein. Of course those guys just have sources that they use, you, an internet poster who doesn’t know shut about fuck are probably right. 

And look, I hope he has a great second half of the season, wins 6th man of the year and is a huge part of a title run. I’m a Mavs fan, that would be great. But you rushing back to this thread thinking you could dunk on me because he had 13 points and 3 rebounds is another embarrassing post in a thread littered with embarrassing posts by you. 

Ok, done cluttering this thread going back and forth you. Feel free not make a post about how overqualified he is as a third option every time he makes a three for the rest of the season. 

[Happy Gilmore 1001]

Nice run there to close the half. Figures a guy averaging 7ppg for them had been unconscious. 

[gsoda3 3245]

wood's first quarter last night (double digit points in 5 minutes) followed by his 2nd and 4th quarters inefficiency, bad decision making, and worse defense is a pretty good summary of how his year's gone.  it's crazy that javale mcgee is now higher up on the depth chart than wood (and rightfully so).  part of it is we're playing against sabonis and wood would get murdered by him on defense, but we're not even two weeks removed from when cwood was injured and mcgee was passed over to play not only 2nd but also 3rd string center in favor of dodo and bertans.  last night and in utah mcgee came in for dwight and then was the closer before dwight came back in to play the final few minutes in the fourth. 

tonight so far he's played 7 mins coming in after dwight and javale.  he's got 3 points and a nice block but also again a couple bad defensive lapses due to lack of effort.  on offense he needs to figure out when not to press-  let the game come to him.  he needs to think ahead more on defense.  his anticipation 1 on 1 is fine, but he needs to realize earlier where his assignment is on the defensive rotations and execute. if the playoffs started right now he doesn't play more than 8 minutes.  

if nothing about his game changes by the end of the year i'd be ok with paying him $18 per just to see if he can develop.  i wouldn't want to sign him to 4 years though. 

 

 

 

 

[conVINCEd 21469]

McGee has been a little feisty the last few games.  I like it.

[gsoda3 3245]

i'm starting to get frustrated with the way last night's game and tonight's game have been called. 

Edited February 12, 2023 by gsoda3

[Hagbard Celine 10850]

irving huge 3

2 mins left up 1

[gsoda3 3245]

that should have been sabonis's 8th foul

[Hagbard Celine 10850]

ot

[CowtownHorn 5126]

[bluto 4912]

Powell is just a zero as a screener/passer in clutch time. It was pretty well over but real solid inbound for 2 pt fg when down by 5 with 10 sec left.  

[Henry Hill 3156]

That whiff of a final possession in the 4th was brutal. THJ going down at the half was unfortunate. Green balled out. Glad to get 1/2 but should have swept.

[gsoda3 3245]

Powell is just a zero as a screener/passer in clutch time. It was pretty well over but real solid inbound for 2 pt fg when down by 5 with 10 sec left.  

Yeah I don't like Powell in there at the end but until maxi comes back that's what we're gonna have to live with. McGee's inability to shoot FTs rules him out. Wood's a defensive liability.

Luka needed to look for his more tonight. We didn't hunt Sabonis on the screen as much as we would have pre trade. Ah well Luka's adjusting to this new look and new tempo but I'm sure he'll figure this out within the next 10 or 15 games.

[Voldemort86 2259]

I really don’t complain about the officials much, but I think the officiating really helped the kings a lot tonight.

[Voldemort86 2259]

What a crock of shit. The suns are the last team I want to win a championship now. They did the mavs dry. Suns already got Jackson. Greedy bastards.

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10 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

wood's first quarter last night (double digit points in 5 minutes) followed by his 2nd and 4th quarters inefficiency, bad decision making, and worse defense is a pretty good summary of how his year's gone.  it's crazy that javale mcgee is now higher up on the depth chart than wood (and rightfully so).  part of it is we're playing against sabonis and wood would get murdered by him on defense, but we're not even two weeks removed from when cwood was injured and mcgee was passed over to play not only 2nd but also 3rd string center in favor of dodo and bertans.  last night and in utah mcgee came in for dwight and then was the closer before dwight came back in to play the final few minutes in the fourth. 

tonight so far he's played 7 mins coming in after dwight and javale.  he's got 3 points and a nice block but also again a couple bad defensive lapses due to lack of effort.  on offense he needs to figure out when not to press-  let the game come to him.  he needs to think ahead more on defense.  his anticipation 1 on 1 is fine, but he needs to realize earlier where his assignment is on the defensive rotations and execute. if the playoffs started right now he doesn't play more than 8 minutes.  

if nothing about his game changes by the end of the year i'd be ok with paying him $18 per just to see if he can develop.  i wouldn't want to sign him to 4 years though. 

 

 

 

 

Bad take. Wood is a totally different player than Powell or McGee and they are deployed differently. Wood had been injured for a very long time. I can assure you he is behind neither on the depth chart of valuable assets in Kidd’s mind. 

@UncleSonnyYou think I’m trying to ‘dunk on you’ but I’m responding to idiotic posts. Clearly, you didn’t see the game Friday night. If you refrain from dipshit posts, I won’t respond. My initial comment about Wood on Friday night was directed more at @Irieguy.  At this juncture a bigger dipshit than you. Prove him wrong. 

[Trey3216 15344]

9 hours ago, bluto said:

Powell is just a zero as a screener/passer in clutch time. It was pretty well over but real solid inbound for 2 pt fg when down by 5 with 10 sec left.  

You could’ve ended it at “Powell is just a zero” 

[gsoda3 3245]

I can assure you he is behind neither on the depth chart of valuable assets in Kidd’s mind. 

Compelling argument... until you realize he actually has been behind both on the depth chart.

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18 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

 

 

Compelling argument... until you realize he actually has been behind both on the depth chart.

 

In only the most simplistic, black and white view* of a “depth chart” is he behind both. 

*This is a very nice way of saying that view is fucking retarded. 

[gsoda3 3245]

1 hour ago, Porterhouse said:

In only the most simplistic, black and white view* of a “depth chart” is he behind both. 

*This is a very nice way of saying that view is fucking retarded. 

you value wood because he can score but you don't consider the other aspects of his game and the nuance of playing under a head coach who values those aspects more than scoring.  scoring = good is about as simplistic and black and white as it gets.

 

maxi comes back soon.  who will pair with maxi at the 5?  if javale keeps playing at the level he's at he's going to take some of those minutes that were formerly going to wood before maxi's injury. it's a good problem to have.

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57 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

you value wood because he can score but you don't consider the other aspects of his game and the nuance of playing under a head coach who values those aspects more than scoring.  scoring = good is about as simplistic and black and white as it gets.

 

maxi comes back soon.  who will pair with maxi at the 5?  if javale keeps playing at the level he's at he's going to take some of those minutes that were formerly going to wood before maxi's injury. it's a good problem to have.

Are you saying Dwight Powell is a better defender than CW?  What about JM?  

And are you just assuming I’m indifferent toward defense because I thought it was a no brainer to trade DFS (and SD) for KI?  

Presumptions galore homey.  Sounds like you’re flailing about moving the goalposts on your absurd comment that Wood is behind 2 absolute spares on the depth chart. 

[gsoda3 3245]

Are you saying Dwight Powell is a better defender than CW?  What about JM?  
And are you just assuming I’m indifferent toward defense because I thought it was a no brainer to trade DFS (and SD) for KI?  
Presumptions galore homey.  Sounds like you’re flailing about moving the goalposts on your absurd comment that Wood is behind 2 absolute spares on the depth chart. 

You're all over the place and can't seem to follow logically so I'm leaving it at that.

Big game right now.

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Just now, gsoda3 said:

You're all over the place and can't seem to follow logically so I'm leaving it at that.

Big game right now.

I’m actually not. CW is by far the 3rd best player on the team, and you’re saying he’s behind the depth chart of fucking Powell and McGee after having been injured for 9 games. It’s very very simple the point I’m making. 

I actually think we are aligned on Kyrie. 

[Guest]

Powell is as worthless as tits on a boar. This game is atrocious interior D. Gobert has absolutely owned him. 

Nobody is playing well except Wood. Keep Wood and put McGee in. It can’t get worse. 

Cool unis though. 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Twolves have 100 points through three quarters. Terrible defense.

[Zeus 6013]

Lamarcus Aldridge

Yes please

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

Fun game. Thank god the quarter isn’t 13 min long

[Happy Gilmore 1001]

The duo is balling out....it's time to roll w C Wood back in the starting line up. Powell can fill up the water bottles or some shit 

[gsoda3 3245]

Kidd should have changed it up and played more zone. That was painful. Bullock's being exposed more and more on defense as the season goes on. He's lost a step. The days of him being a good perimeter defender could very well be behind him. Frank's defense made a huge difference tonight.

[gsoda3 3245]

One last thing. Kidd was frustrating tonight. From being stubborn in his defensive gameplan to using the same inbounds play he uses every final possession he failed his team.

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[Bigpoppapump 529]

Always the butt end of the joke in Dallas.

[Henry Hill 3156]

On the verge of an epic 27-point lead collapse L at home against the LeBrons. Takes skill to blow this many 20+-point leads in a single season.

[Henry Hill 3156]

What a kick to the nuts. Has to be up there with biggest blown leads in team history and is the biggest in the league this year.

Neither Luka nor Kyrie wants to be the guy at the end of these games. Need that killer mentality to start showing and quick.

[LurkingHorn 1066]

Jason Kidd showing his warts this season. It obviously isn't all on him, but dang dude, use your freaking timeouts when teams are going on huge runs against you. Dude actually said in his press conference that he's only watching the games just like us. Ummmm what?

[Vic Mackey 47010]

26 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

Jason Kidd showing his warts this season. It obviously isn't all on him, but dang dude, use your freaking timeouts when teams are going on huge runs against you. Dude actually said in his press conference that he's only watching the games just like us. Ummmm what?

His quote solidified what so many already believe. He has absolutely no idea what he is doing. It's his job to make the in game adjustments, roster management in game. He is very bad at both. I was always on board with Dallas needing to move on from Rick but going in this direction was a terrible move. This kind of quote should be grounds to get your walking papers. He is 100% correct. He is just watching. He has no idea what he is doing. I can't imagine his players have any confidence in him. How can they? This was the full quote:

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by Vic Mackey

[gsoda3 3245]

kidd needs to accept more responsibility.  i'm hoping this is his way of telling luka to get with it but it sure sounds like he doesn't have a clue.  

 

i think the single biggest issue kyrie is going to have with this team is luka's unprofessionalism.  kai plays hard every possession.  he's scrambling for loose balls, getting into the chest of his attacker, making space and going for rebounds.  luka is the complete opposite.  when the ball's out of his hands he's just occupying space at the 3 point line.  ball goes up on the defensive end he's just watching.  vanderbilt just went baseline again and grabbed another offensive rebound.  box out! and stop talking to the refs.  he's talking to the refs ALL. THE. TIME. most of the time when he doesn't make it back onto the defensive end of the court it's because he's talking to the refs at the other end.  timeout called?  luka heads towards the closest ref.  he's the most immature player in the nba.  if there's anyone who can get through to luka about growing up you would think it's two of the best point guards to ever play the game.  

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

That Kidd quote seems like a shot at Luka.

[gsoda3 3245]

That Kidd quote seems like a shot at Luka.

Definitely is.

Marc Stein tweeted maxi might be back as soon as tomorrow against the pacers.

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Team is going nowhere. Might have got worse with Kyrie as the defense is horrendous.

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2 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Team is going nowhere. Might have got worse with Kyrie as the defense is horrendous.

Didn’t get worse with Kyrie. Kidd is not good. Good guy, worked well last year, but the energy they got from ditching Carlisle was a temporary boost a la Parcells to Wade. 

[LurkingHorn 1066]

7 hours ago, Porterhouse said:

Didn’t get worse with Kyrie. Kidd is not good. Good guy, worked well last year, but the energy they got from ditching Carlisle was a temporary boost a la Parcells to Wade. 

I hate to say it but I'm leaning that way as well. 

I'm also tired of the Luka theatrics. He's not a 20-year-old kid anymore, it's time to grow up and just play basketball. 

[Vic Mackey 47010]

Team is going nowhere. Might have got worse with Kyrie as the defense is horrendous.

Team will go nowhere with Kidd as coach. He's terrible.

[Vic Mackey 47010]

A discussion needs to be had about Luka. He is in worse shape as the season goes along. After the 1st qtr, his endurance takes a plunge. I don't think he takes it seriously. He knows he can hop off his couch and average what he does. But what is he doing to take his game to a higher level? We are now in year 5. And he's been a pro in Europe since he was a teen. He is considered a vet. Will it ever change? He is the anti Dirk as Dirk lived and breathed basketball. Luka doesn't.