2022-23 MLB offseason thread

[shadow_operative 15932]

 

 

if mookie tears his acl playing basketball, how quickly do LAD sign judge?

Edited October 27, 2022 by shadow_operative

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[Beau Vine 54230]

Oh, Rockies...

[shadow_operative 15932]

helo is better than that guy. 

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dumb teams, offer dumb contracts to the wrong people 

[Beau Vine 54230]

2 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

helo is better than that guy. 

HELO COULD HIT JIMMY KEY!

[shadow_operative 15932]

what is he, like 45?

[Gourmand 7774]

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This will be the biggest question on the collective mind of Cubs fans when Hot Stove season gets underway. Carlos Correa, Trea Turner, Xander Bogaerts and Dansby Swanson could all be on the open market this winter, and there is certainly a fit on the North Side. 

 

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3 hours ago, Gourmand said:

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so the Dodgers — very disappointed to be watching a Phillies team that won 24 fewer games rep their league in the World Series

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He’d bring excellent leadership to that clubhouse 

[TonyTexas 10513]

I hope the Correa to Dodgers happens if only for Bill Plaschke’s reaction. 

[Guadaloopy 10971]

2 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

I hope the Correa to Dodgers happens if only for Bill Plaschke’s reaction. 

Plaschke wrote last year that they should go after Correa.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2021-11-12/dodgers-corey-seager-carlos-correa-shortstop-free-agency-scott-boras

Edited October 28, 2022 by Guadaloopy

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21 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

dumb teams, offer dumb contracts to the wrong people 

[Beau Vine 54230]

dammit slorch

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https://www.sfgate.com/giants/article/One-Yankees-writer-is-completely-convinced-Aaron-17541531.php

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[Vic Mackey 47038]

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[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

Dodgers and Yankees being hot after Correa after all their bitching and moaning about 2017 is awesome.  Will Dodger fan boo him every time he comes up to the plate?  We know Yankee fan will.

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[WBT 20572]

12 hours ago, closetohumping said:

https://www.sfgate.com/giants/article/One-Yankees-writer-is-completely-convinced-Aaron-17541531.php

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On the radio, Miller went out even further on a limb than he had in his first story. Judge will sign with the Giants by December, he predicted, in a deal that could climb to eight years, $320 million. And oh by the way, Anthony Rizzo and Trea Turner could join him. This all seems outrageous, but the Judge chase is the best entertainment Giants fans have had in over a year.

Sounds kind of fanfictiony

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if they can't sign Turner, Correa is the Dodger's #1 target hmmmm

 

[shadow_operative2.0 15983]

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The Kansas City Royals hired Tampa Bay Rays bench coach Matt Quatraro as manager Sunday, turning over the young core of a rebuilding franchise to a forward-thinking manager with experience winning in a small market.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34913163/sources-royals-hire-rays-bench-coach-matt-quatraro-manager

[InkaUtexas 25940]

Sale opted in. Fucker needs to stay healthy. 

[shadow_operative2.0 15983]

GG winners being announced, link will update. 

https://www.mlb.com/news/2022-gold-glove-award-winners

Don’t think many would have bet on Vlad. 

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Pedro Grifol is expected to be the next manager of the Chicago White Sox, an announcement that could come later this week, according to multiple sources.

Grifol, 52, has been on the staff of the Kansas City Royals since 2013, most recently as the bench coach. The Royals interviewed him recently for their managerial opening but hired Tampa Bay Rays bench coach Matt Quatraro to fill that spot.

Grifol's bench coach would likely be former Toronto Blue Jays manager Charlie Montoyo, a source told ESPN's Jesse Rogers. The source added that Grifol would like to retain pitching coach Ethan Katz, but would be in the market for a new hitting coach. 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34924320/sources-white-sox-hire-royals-pedro-grifol-manager

[InkaUtexas 25940]

2 hours ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

GG winners being announced, link will update. 

https://www.mlb.com/news/2022-gold-glove-award-winners

Don’t think many would have bet on Vlad. 

He had a good year. Like seeing Pena winning at shortstop. And of course Betts! 

 

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[Beau Vine 54230]

Look at my boy checking in there at #11.   So proud!

[Helobious 9454]

People paid money to be able to read that list?

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[InkaUtexas 25940]

Beat me to it. OMG these are the best. The Pirates have me loosing it. Friend is looking over at me like I am having a stroke I am laughing so hard and they are on a conference call. 

[Guadaloopy 10971]

19 hours ago, Helobious said:

People paid money to be able to read that list?

Postseason performance history must be heavily weighted in that ranking.  There are a lot of other factors that reduce Judge's value as a free agent as well.  His age and injury history combined with body type and how those things impact his most valuable skill set (power) all have to be considered.  Valuing a free agent isn't all about "ZOMG who had the best season this year?!"

[Helobious 9454]

True. Correa has no injury history at all or an unideal body type for his position. 
 

This is Sportscenter is maybe the best thing ESPN ever did. All those commercials still hold up 15-20 years later. I always loved the one where Steve Irwin wrestles the Florida gator mascot, RIP.

[Guadaloopy 10971]

4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

True. Correa has no injury history at all or an unideal body type for his position. 
 

This is Sportscenter is maybe the best thing ESPN ever did. All those commercials still hold up 15-20 years later. I always loved the one where Steve Irwin wrestles the Florida gator mascot, RIP.

Not saying it's a great list, but Correa is three years younger and has a proven track record of success in the postseason.  Same factors for Swanson and Turner.  I can see why they jump Judge in the rankings.  

[Helobious 9454]

7 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Not saying it's a great list, but Correa is three years younger and has a proven track record of success in the postseason.  Same factors for Swanson and Turner.  I can see why they jump Judge in the rankings.  

Correa career postseason OPS = .849

Judge career postseason OPS = .772

Not exactly the giant chasm you portray. Also Judge bests both Swanson & Turner (by a big margin in that case) in that category.

Edited November 3, 2022 by Helobious

[Guadaloopy 10971]

Correa's numbers are sustained over more than twice as many postseason games, so the performance difference becomes more pronounced.  I concede that Turner and Swanson don't have significant advantages in postseason performance over Judge solely based on stats,  but they each have a ring, and there is some value in having already cleared that hump once in a career.

Edited November 3, 2022 by Guadaloopy

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Front offices don't care about tiny playoff sample sizes when making free agent offers.

For Judge, the concerns are going to be about injuries and the aging curve at his size.

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1 hour ago, Guadaloopy said:

Postseason performance history must be heavily weighted in that ranking.  There are a lot of other factors that reduce Judge's value as a free agent as well.  His age and injury history combined with body type and how those things impact his most valuable skill set (power) all have to be considered.  Valuing a free agent isn't all about "ZOMG who had the best season this year?!"

clubhouse leadership is huge for teams on the edge of wildcard / winning the division 

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[Guadaloopy 10971]

12 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Too bad they were off on the durability.  

[VirginiaLonghorn 4771]

19 hours ago, Helobious said:

True. Correa has no injury history at all or an unideal body type for his position. 
 

This is Sportscenter is maybe the best thing ESPN ever did. All those commercials still hold up 15-20 years later. I always loved the one where Steve Irwin wrestles the Florida gator mascot, RIP.

Who knew Tampa Bay’s mascot would be the one?

[TonyTexas 10513]

They both might stay but can you imagine that Yankees roster without Judge and Rizzo?  They have a lot of work to do even if they lock both up. If not, they actually might have to blow it up and do a rebuild. 

 

[Beau Vine 54230]

10 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

Too bad they were off on the durability.  

And a 6-7 on arm strength?  Harold Reynolds would disagree vehemently.

[TonyTexas 10513]

And what does a player have to do to get an 8 in running speed? Dude was one of the fastest college football players of all time. 

[Shoxthemonkey 1981]

Speaking of Bo...

Jackson threw down his bat, walked toward Seitzer (“With fire in his eyes,” Hearn recalled), grabbed him around the throat with his left hand and shoved his head against the concrete wall. No one with the Royals had witnessed this fast of a Bo metamorphosis. Within seconds Seitzer’s eyes rolled back.

“Look, you picked the wrong motherfucker to fuck with on the wrong day!” Jackson screamed. “As long as you’re breathing air, don’t you ever talk to me like that again! Motherfucker, I will break your neck!”

https://deadspin.com/that-time-bo-jackson-tried-to-kill-kevin-seitzer-1849715204?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=dlvrit&utm_content=deadspin

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his last year at auburn, he was KILLING it for the baseball team. then tampa tricked him into taking a physical in tampa. ncaa dropped a hammer on him and he had to quit the team. 

[Shoxthemonkey 1981]

I was pissed when the Royals trade Seitzer away but this makes it somewhat understandable. Pre internet I didn’t know That Seitzer was such a jerk. 

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33 minutes ago, Shoxthemonkey said:

I was pissed when the Royals trade Seitzer away but this makes it somewhat understandable. Pre internet I didn’t know That Seitzer was such a jerk. 

Bo did not, however, respect Seitzer. “He’s one of the biggest ass-lickers we’ve got on the team,” Jackson said. “He always puts his two cents in. And guys are like, ‘Will you shut the fuck up?’ ”

 

hahaha reading the article, seitzer sounds like an annoying douche. horrible clubhouse guy