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10 minutes ago, kevwun said:

He realized MLB wouldn't juice balls for him in San Francisco.

Hadn’t heard of this. So they switched out all the baseballs just for Judge at-bats all year? Pitchers never said a thing? Weird.
 

I told everyone he was staying, I knew he’d never leave us. Finally some good news.

That’s crazy, I thought everyone hated the Yankees and no one wanted to play there? You’re all fucking morons. 

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4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Hadn’t heard of this. So they switched out all the baseballs just for Judge at-bats all year? Pitchers never said a thing? Weird.
 

No. Seemingly for Yankees games in general, particularly towards the end of the season (when he was chasing the record).

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But perhaps even more interesting than the apparent existence of the third ball itself is where we tended to find it. Though the overwhelming majority of baseballs we obtained were dead, 36 of them fit the bill for what Wills dubbed the "Goldilocks ball" (not too heavy, not too light — but just right). Of those, most were found in one of three situations:

• Postseason games, including the World Series;

• The All-Star Game and Home Run Derby;

• Regular season games that used balls with special commemorative stamps (i.e. Texas Rangers 50th anniversary ball) on the outer leather.

The only Goldilocks balls we obtained from the regular season that did not have commemorative stamps were found in Yankees games.

MLB Used Two Balls Again This Year, and Evidence Points to a Third (insider.com)

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15 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

No. Seemingly for Yankees games in general, particularly towards the end of the season (when he was chasing the record).

MLB Used Two Balls Again This Year, and Evidence Points to a Third (insider.com)

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Our sample is not random. We got balls from whatever sources were available to us, and we can't represent that any particular ball was sent for any particular reason to any particular game. We don't know whether Judge hit a Goldilocks ball on his way toward breaking the record.

From same article. 

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It’s hilarious to see Astros fans engage in the same witch hunt conspiracy shit they complained about being victimized by for so long. You guys should read the article you keep citing. It says the overwhelming majority of balls studied were dead, even for Yankee games. And even if Yankees games got a small amount of juiced ones, what’s it matter if both teams were playing with the same balls? 

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8 minutes ago, Helobious said:

And even if Yankees games got a small amount of juiced ones, what’s it matter if both teams were playing with the same balls? 

Why might it matter that a more lively ball-which means more likely to be hit for a home run-was apparently used only in regular season games featuring a guy who happened to be chasing a single season home run record (and who also happens to be playing for the league’s highest profile team)? Hint: it doesn’t have anything to do with the outcome of a particular game.

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3 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I wonder how many pitchers' careers were destroyed by this scandal.  Having to watch yourself give up an illegitimate home run on the Judge highlight reel for years to come must be incredibly damaging on one's psyche.  They should sue.  

How many hitters going into free agency have had their numbers artificially suppressed relative to Judge because they didn’t get to use a juiced ball, potentially costing them millions of dollars?

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16 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

How many hitters going into free agency have had their numbers artificially suppressed relative to Judge because they didn’t get to use a juiced ball, potentially costing them millions of dollars?

Maybe Roger Maris' family could sue the MLB for taking away their family legacy due to the illegitimately juiced balls that helped Judge get 1 more homer than Roger? It's a pretty big deal to them, since the whole family shows up every time there is a home run record challenger. They could continue doing it in the future if they can get an asterisk next to Judges record. 

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1 hour ago, Helobious said:

It’s hilarious to see Astros fans engage in the same witch hunt conspiracy shit they complained about being victimized by for so long. You guys should read the article you keep citing. It says the overwhelming majority of balls studied were dead, even for Yankee games. And even if Yankees games got a small amount of juiced ones, what’s it matter if both teams were playing with the same balls? 

Fans of the sport of baseball are the victims, at the hands of the idiots trying to protect the sanctity of the game as if it is some virgin honey pot.

You still mad?  Lolz.  Stay mad.  Lotsa runway left for the Astros, even with the bullshit sanctions and crybabies booing incessantly.  
 

We are fine.  Judge is fine.  Are you?   We know that answer…

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18 hours ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

2/$33M with an opt-out for Josh Bell to Cle. 

I'm OK with that, Cleveland has limited money to work with and they needed a 1b that can get on base. Rizzo is too rich for them and Bell is the next best option. The rest of the infield is pretty well set, and they have some good pitchers. They should be in position to win the division again, but it's unlikely they will be able to get past the second round with some of the other teams in the AL spending a ton and stacking their rosters. 

 

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26 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Rizzo’s contract was 2/$34M with a year 3 option and a $6M buyout. Not much different than Bell’s 2/$33M

That's a minimum of 40m guaranteed for Rizzo, while Bell may end up being a 1 year rental of he opts out. Less risky, and Bell is a few years younger too. Small market teams have to pinch pennies wherever they can. It still bums me out that they didn't beat the Cubs in 2016, that was a huge miss.

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28 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

That's a minimum of 40m guaranteed for Rizzo, while Bell may end up being a 1 year rental of he opts out. Less risky, and Bell is a few years younger too. Small market teams have to pinch pennies wherever they can. It still bums me out that they didn't beat the Cubs in 2016, that was a huge miss.

The AAV on Rizzo’s contract is $17 mil, the AAV on Bell’s contract is $16.5 mil.

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Interesting structure on this deal:

The Giants have added one of their desired outfielders, announcing a three-year contract with Mitch Haniger. It’s reportedly a $43.5MM guarantee, and the deal allows him to opt out after two seasons. Haniger is represented by Apex Baseball.

 

A Mountain View native, Haniger returns to Northern California during his first trip to free agency. He’ll receive a $6MM signing bonus up-front, followed by a $5MM salary in 2023 and $17MM in 2024. At that point, he’ll have to decide whether to bypass the final season and $15.5MM remaining on the deal. Haniger would also receive a $1MM assignment bonus if traded.

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