Texas at UH in 2023, per Chron

[hook me 2163]

We have 0 leverage with the Big 12 so them finding ways to screw us/piss us off is to be expected. Considering they already had the 2021 schedule set when the move leaked & there's not much of a chance for change in the 2022 season we haven't really felt the brunt of it. That all changes next year & the next if we don't get out. I fully expect Thursday night games & road games to pretty much every city w/ bye weeks as inconvenient as possible. It'll be Shawshank style where we crawl through 2 years worth of shit before we make it to the beautiful SEC-land & the mounds of money waiting for us.

The analogy would be even better if we could leave in 2024 but OU couldn't & they could be Red finding the note after they get out of prison - "SEC-land" - they'll say with a knowing smile as they load up their covered wagon. They show up to SEC-land barefoot (because they're OU & probably sold their shoes for meth along the way) & find us on the beach.

[brojangles2 795]

1 hour ago, UnhappilyMarried said:

ticket prices better fall

HA, no sir, the damage is already done. Greed has already caught up with the last 5-6 years of very reasonable prices given the product. NEZ is now Tier 2 for new accounts. If I was not grandfathered, I would not be paying Tier 2 rates. I understand the 7 home games this year vs 6, but going from 455 to 640 was pretty extreme to me. ou now being $175 is also robbery. They are getting us back very quickly for the last few years of plateau. SMH. 

[Hookem2147 22034]

26 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

He will win the first half 

Me the first time you used that joke:

 

Me the second time you used that joke 5 minutes after the first time

 

Me the third time you used the joke 10 minutes after the second time

 

Me after the 50th time you used the joke in a span of 48 hours

[mdmost 44055]

We will get both Cougars (BYU) on the road and OU will get Cincinnati and UCF on the road. 

[Js1 87186]

2 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Me the first time you used that joke:

 

Me the second time you used that joke 5 minutes after the first time

 

Me the third time you used the joke 10 minutes after the second time

 

Me after the 50th time you used the joke in a span of 48 hours

 

[markstanco 12791]

23 minutes ago, hook me said:

We have 0 leverage with the Big 12 so them finding ways to screw us/piss us off is to be expected.

How did the voting of the 4 new schools work?  I would imagine it would have to be unanimous, and TX/OU would negotiate a lower buyout or earlier exit.  Guess your statement stands correct. 

[Hook1997 5509]

Who cares,  two years with possibly easier schedules to play in the Big 12 Championship  and maybe playoff birth if the team can somehow learn how to win close games.  I don’t see the issue.  We can complain about refs in the Big 12 all day but they had plenty of chances to win every game this year still. 

Edited November 1, 2022 by Hook1997

[hook me 2163]

2 minutes ago, markstanco said:

How did the voting of the 4 new schools work?  I would imagine it would have to be unanimous, and TX/OU would negotiate a lower buyout or earlier exit.  Guess your statement stands correct. 

If I remember correctly UT & OU abstained from voting on expansion.

“Today’s actions were in accordance with Big 12 Conference Bylaw 1.5.2.b.3 requiring an affirmative vote of a supermajority of directors and was approved unanimously by the eight continuing members," the Big 12 said in a statement.

[Dewey 3332]

There's no way we're staying for this shit show. 

[Deej 77836]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

The joke will be Sark losing to UH 

You're not helping. 

[perfectchaos007 6780]

Any time we play @ Rice they move the game to NRG. I’m assuming they’ll do the same when we play at UH? 

[Dewey 3332]

17 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Any time we play @ Rice they move the game to NRG. I’m assuming they’ll do the same when we play at UH? 

Lol, not those shit stains 

[Yuk 1622]

2 hours ago, UnhappilyMarried said:

Our home slate will be something like Rice, Wyoming, KU, KSU, Tech, UCF. Fucking embarrassing, ticket prices better fall

This is Deloss Dodds' legacy. LHN for that.

[Valmy77 13626]

1 hour ago, Hook1997 said:

Who cares,  two years with possibly easier schedules to play in the Big 12 Championship  and maybe playoff birth if the team can somehow learn how to win close games.  I don’t see the issue.  We can complain about refs in the Big 12 all day but they had plenty of chances to win every game this year still. 

Exactly. I am not excited about taking our dysfunctional program to the SEC to go 4-8. Beat up on Houston and UCF or whomever? Bring it on. Let's go in with a deep talented team with a winning culture. We can build that over the next couple years while using SECSECSEC as the recruiting pitch.

Hopefully some one legged BYU QB doesn't run for 250 yards against us in the meantime.

Edited November 1, 2022 by Valmy77

[Valmy77 13626]

7 minutes ago, Yuk said:

This is Deloss Dodds' legacy. LHN for that.

We all know Dodds was an idiot who was handed a third base job and then strutted around like he hit a triple for years.

But all ancient history now. I think we are finally in good hands.

[ultimaton 2985]

1 hour ago, markstanco said:

How did the voting of the 4 new schools work?  I would imagine it would have to be unanimous, and TX/OU would negotiate a lower buyout or earlier exit.  Guess your statement stands correct. 

When we announced we were leaving we lost our vote.

[Beau Vine 55867]

2 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

Who cares,  two years with possibly easier schedules to play in the Big 12 Championship  and maybe playoff birth if the team can somehow learn how to win close games.  I don’t see the issue.  We can complain about refs in the Big 12 all day but they had plenty of chances to win every game this year still. 

* berth

No one is making babies here.

[Pancho 46320]

2 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Any time we play @ Rice they move the game to NRG. I’m assuming they’ll do the same when we play at UH? 

IT saying it was noticeable the article mentioned playing TCU at UH’s home stadium but didn’t say that for the Texas game.

Nahlin saying his source who tipped him off about this game didn’t know which stadium, and he’s speculating the only reason it’s on the schedule is to be played at NRG.

[royiv 9791]

2 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Any time we play @ Rice they move the game to NRG. I’m assuming they’ll do the same when we play at UH? 

Why would they? It gives Texas a massive home field advantage. They will play this on campus.

[Pig Bellmont 8887]

BigXII just got new tv contracts. I’m guessing we exit after ‘23. 

[WBT 20980]

2 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Exactly. I am not excited about taking our dysfunctional program to the SEC to go 4-8. Beat up on Houston and UCF or whomever? Bring it on. Let's go in with a deep talented team with a winning culture. We can build that over the next couple years while using SECSECSEC as the recruiting pitch.

Hopefully some one legged BYU QB doesn't run for 250 yards against us in the meantime.

The schedule isn't going to be harder in the sec.

[BurntOrange&White 41878]

Fuck Houston

[cochamps 1886]

17 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Fuck Houston

This.

[Francisco 2.0 32597]

4 hours ago, mdmost said:

We will get both Cougars (BYU) on the road and OU will get Cincinnati and UCF on the road. 

 

 

 

[Assman 1830]

Us and ousux will 100% get away games at all 4 new schools, and in return they will take away the easiest games that would have been on the schedule (WV, KU, etc). 

[OrangEngr 1035]

People seem to think we’re gonna get stuck with games against all the four new teams on the road, but why would WVu, ISU, TCU and Baylor be ok with potentially losing one last home game against UT? I’m guessing we end up with one new home and one new away game with the ones getting displaced ( especially the home games) raising holy hell

[OrangEngr 1035]

God now I hope they replace @ISU, the cyclones would be apoplectic.

[ButtFumble 5287]

5 hours ago, utee94 said:

If I recall correctly,  the B12 is incorporated in the state of Texas.

So it should be easy peasy.

 

 

 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-believes-american-is-attempting-to-grab-eight-remaining-members-with-texas-oklahoma-leaving-for-sec/

HQ in Texas incorporated in Delaware

 

and the remaining members of the Big 12 are fucking stupid they never should have added UH yo start with they had Texas covered and UH will fall to a pile of stinking shit soon enough just like in the SWC

in addition as pointed out above why would any of the existing members give up the Texas and OU home game paydays to new members the new members should get a shit sandwich of a schedule not top draws at home

[BigHornedLurker 2176]

14 minutes ago, OrangEngr said:

People seem to think we’re gonna get stuck with games against all the four new teams on the road, but why would WVu, ISU, TCU and Baylor be ok with potentially losing one last home game against UT? I’m guessing we end up with one new home and one new away game with the ones getting displaced ( especially the home games) raising holy hell

this is my thinking as well. 

add in the TV angles to fox trying to squeeze the last few dollars out of things, I am skeptical it will be as bad as some of the takes upthread from here. 

if anything I'd think our HOME slate is where we see all these teams we don't give a shit about, and get TCU / OSU / KSU / Tech back to fucking back on the road to close out the year 

And our bye week super early or late in the year when it isn't useful 

And every team having a bye week before us

Thats how you properly fuck a team on the way out 

Edited November 2, 2022 by BigHornedLurker

[Murfdogg21 4563]

3 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Hopefully some one legged BYU QB doesn't run for 250 yards against us in the meantime.

And that QB’s name? You guessed it! Taysom Stallone!

[Mez2 4048]

6 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

And that QB’s name? You guessed it! Taysom Stallone!

[Valmy77 13626]

1 hour ago, WBT said:

The schedule isn't going to be harder in the sec.

It will in the new SEC. We won't be scheduling four cupcakes like A&M (and then losing to one anyway). It is going to be a nine conference game grind for us there just like here.

Though kudos to them for scheduling Miami this year I guess.

[Murfdogg21 4563]

3 hours ago, ultimaton said:

When we announced we were leaving we lost our vote.

If this is true what was the point (or benefit) of announcing we were leaving? UT and OU could have kept silent and voting as Big12 members until the GoR expired in 2025 and just ghosted everyone. 

[Surly Bevo 25752]

1 minute ago, Murfdogg21 said:

If this is true what was the point (or benefit) of announcing we were leaving? UT and OU could have kept silent and voting as Big12 members until the GoR expired in 2025 and just ghosted everyone. 

Well we had to formally request membership in the SEC and that is pretty public act that would have let the cat out of the bag had aggy not gone crying like a bitch to the media trying to short circuit things.  

[VivaNaranja 466]

It will be at NRG. Just like Tech vs UH last year

[Murfdogg21 4563]

6 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Well we had to formally request membership in the SEC and that is pretty public act that would have let the cat out of the bag had aggy not gone crying like a bitch to the media trying to short circuit things.  

 

[billfromlaketravis 11823]

34 minutes ago, VivaNaranja said:

It will be at NRG. Just like Tech vs UH last year

Apples and oranges man. It’ll be a conference game. U of H should will and should do everything in their power to play that game at whatever they call their on “campus” stadium. 

[fattyflattie 4640]

7 hours ago, Helobious said:

So I get negged to oblivion for saying we wouldn’t leave the big 12 until 2025 and it turns out I was right the whole time? Imagine that.

First time for everything. 

[NeverMarryAStripper 22304]

6 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

seems another angle we should have taken regarding this influx of 4 teams to the big 12 next year.

Texas and ou were specifically told we couldnt vote on the expansion.

 

so if we couldnt vote on the expansion, why the fuck cant we just say that we refuse to play any of the 4 new teams.    take a forfeit and walk away. fuck em.

Unless there is something in the bylaws that allows that they should have been told to fucking blow it out their ass.

[ButtFumble 5287]

1 hour ago, VivaNaranja said:

It will be at NRG. Just like Tech vs UH last year

the Tech game was at NRG because technically it was a "Kickoff Classic" and then a one and done at Tech 

[ButtFumble 5287]

18 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Unless there is something in the bylaws that allows that they should have been told to fucking blow it out their ass.

in the Big 12 bylaws if you are contacted by any party (anyone not just a conference director so no Chuck Neinas calling for "a friend") about leaving the conference you have 12 hours to notify the conference of that contact AND to issue a written statement that is acceptable to the conference of your denial of any intentions to leave the conference

failure to do so disqualifies you from any votes on future conference business until the issue is resolved

Texas and OU very clearly violated that clause which is a legal issue in and of itself, but then while Texas and OU were violating that clause the Big 12 had discussions with media partners about extending the current TV deal and a vote was made (including votes by Texas and OU) to decline to extend the deal at that time and wait to go to market

that creates a much larger potential legal issue for Texas and OU......then you add in the jackass arresto that is the commissioner of the AAC not knowing how to use fucking email and forwarding emails that showed a very high likelihood of ESPN and the AAC colluding to lure teams from the Big 12 in hopes of busting up the Big 12 and suddenly "OU has a money problem" and needs to wait to exit the conference

but of course there is no savings at all for waiting to leave the conference because the exit fee is "two prior years distributions" and those distributions grow each year

but those exit fees when Texas and OU announced would have been about $80 million and it was said that Texas had $100 in hand and ready to pay to leave......most likely $20 million more to bust the GOR and GTFO ASAP and one would have to think that OU could do the same

but then the AAC emails pop up and people get pissed off and ESPN realized they could get really fucked and Big 12 members stop panicking so bad and join in to say "nope just stay and pay about $90 million each to leave in a few years" and "PS EPSN start to negotiate with us in good faith on things like a new contract, The Sugar Bowl, and remaining a P level conference and equal shares of the CFB Playoff (which of course ESPN does not really control the last aspect of things even if they pay the money, but they pay the money so they can tell other P conferences the Big 12 still gets their full share

[TornACL 7792]

This is what happens when you're in a conference with a bunch of low rent slap dicks. No one can wait two seconds to leak to the Chronicle that Texas is comin.

[tx 3 putt 78691]

easy W for UT

[Hagbard Celine 11256]

paging admiral mcraven

paging admiral mcraven

you are GO for launch

straight on the ones

[Tex Pete 21489]

Fuck Chris del Conte. 
 

We pay waaaaay too much to support this program to be saddled with this bullshit. 

[Hook1997 5509]

4 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

BigXII just got new tv contracts. I’m guessing we exit after ‘23. 

The negotiation for the new deal starts after this one ends, so not till 25.   Financially buying out two years early makes no sense, so I don’t understand why everyone is shocked they aren’t doing it.  Difference between revenue per school this year is SEC, 55 million and Big 12, 43 million.   Gap gets a bit bigger next couple years but nothing crazy to make up the difference. 

Edited November 2, 2022 by Hook1997

[BurntOrange&White 41878]

5 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

The negotiation for the new deal starts after this one ends, so not till 25.   Financially buying out two years early makes no sense, so I don’t understand why everyone is shocked they aren’t doing it.  Difference between revenue per school this year is SEC, 55 million and Big 12, 43 million.   Gap gets a bit bigger next couple years but nothing crazy to make up the difference. 

Shut up pussy.  The money we lose in this conference having 14 teams split the revenue + buyout will be negligible to the money we get in the SEC.

Edited November 2, 2022 by BurntOrange&White

[Pig Bellmont 8887]

7 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

The negotiation for the new deal starts after this one ends, so not till 25.   Financially buying out two years early makes no sense, so I don’t understand why everyone is shocked they aren’t doing it.  Difference between revenue per school this year is SEC, 55 million and Big 12, 43 million.   Gap gets a bit bigger next couple years but nothing crazy to make up the difference. 

I think the bigger issue was the BigXII had no motivation to negotiate an early exit when their future was in doubt. Now that membership and tv money will be there, there’s an opportunity to leave before 2025 and without getting stuck for $20million. ESPN isn’t going to freak out if TX an OU leave two years early bc they just bought the BigXII product without those schools. 

[ImissWallyPryor 9046]

9 hours ago, ButtFumble said:

in the Big 12 bylaws if you are contacted by any party (anyone not just a conference director so no Chuck Neinas calling for "a friend") about leaving the conference you have 12 hours to notify the conference of that contact AND to issue a written statement that is acceptable to the conference of your denial of any intentions to leave the conference

failure to do so disqualifies you from any votes on future conference business until the issue is resolved

Texas and OU very clearly violated that clause which is a legal issue in and of itself, but then while Texas and OU were violating that clause the Big 12 had discussions with media partners about extending the current TV deal and a vote was made (including votes by Texas and OU) to decline to extend the deal at that time and wait to go to market

that creates a much larger potential legal issue for Texas and OU......then you add in the jackass arresto that is the commissioner of the AAC not knowing how to use fucking email and forwarding emails that showed a very high likelihood of ESPN and the AAC colluding to lure teams from the Big 12 in hopes of busting up the Big 12 and suddenly "OU has a money problem" and needs to wait to exit the conference

but of course there is no savings at all for waiting to leave the conference because the exit fee is "two prior years distributions" and those distributions grow each year

but those exit fees when Texas and OU announced would have been about $80 million and it was said that Texas had $100 in hand and ready to pay to leave......most likely $20 million more to bust the GOR and GTFO ASAP and one would have to think that OU could do the same

but then the AAC emails pop up and people get pissed off and ESPN realized they could get really fucked and Big 12 members stop panicking so bad and join in to say "nope just stay and pay about $90 million each to leave in a few years" and "PS EPSN start to negotiate with us in good faith on things like a new contract, The Sugar Bowl, and remaining a P level conference and equal shares of the CFB Playoff (which of course ESPN does not really control the last aspect of things even if they pay the money, but they pay the money so they can tell other P conferences the Big 12 still gets their full share

+rep, but can you please start your sentences with capital letters?

Punctuation at the end of sentences would be a bonus. 

Edited November 2, 2022 by ImissWallyPryor

[TexArcher 39073]

This had better be a non-conference game because our move to the SEC is a done deal that just hasn't been announced yet.

Fuck U of H either way.