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10 minutes ago, Slacks said:

Offer +4/150 right now. Everyone wins, barring a major injury that kills a season or changes his ability to play in the future.

So buy out his 3 years of arbitration, which as Wulaw said, will probably total $40M and give him one extra year for $110M? Now 7/$190M would be fair but Tucker will never accept that. 

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You wanted us. You got us.  You got your asses beat !   Let's do it again in 2023     

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love these articles and comments from the mlb media about marring a world series or how the baseball world will be critical of the astros for this move. get. the. fuck. out. with. that. nonsense.

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MLB looking to solve local blackout issues.

 

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MLB announced that Billy Chambers, a long-time regional sports network executive, would be taking over as executive vice president/local media. Why is this important? 

Sports Business Journal says that one of Chambers’ main duties is to figure out how the league can take control of those local blackouts.

 

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2 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

So buy out his 3 years of arbitration, which as Wulaw said, will probably total $40M and give him one extra year for $110M? Now 7/$190M would be fair but Tucker will never accept that. 

7/190 now means he gets another contract at age 30....  Otherwise, he gets one big contract.

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4 hours ago, HtownHorn said:
Every team in baseball would take Luis Robert over Jose Abreu right now.

Thats not how it works lol. He isn't better than Abreu right now. He is younger with a whole lot longer career left.....maybe.....dude can't even stay healthy at 25

Supposed “bottom 10” CF Chas McCormick was better both offensively and defensively last season.

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19 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

MLB looking to solve local blackout issues.

 

 

add reason and accountability

( and look at a fucking map)

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"The reasons for the blackouts is simple and twofold: The first reason is cable providers' desire for exclusive broadcasting rights in their local networks. The second, is MLB's desire to get fans into the stadium for attendance purposes."

 

Bull fucking shit on both accounts.  1)I cannot get local H-town broadcasts in Amarillo, nor do I even have it available on a regional network like I do for the Rangers. 2) I live 600 miles from Houston.  TV availability factors in exactly zero percent in my opportunity to attend a game at MMP. I live almost 200 miles closer to Denver, but they're not local. Kansas City Royals are 8 miles farther from me than MMP, and they aren't local either...for a good gotdam reason.

What's dumb AF is that even when I tried last year to PAY MLB for access, they are still blacked out because I live in the state of Texas.  When the Astros play on TBS or TNT or whatever...blacked out.   It's so fucking stupid.  Here's a map of the "local" areas.  Check out poor Iowa.  MLB just hates their ass.

mlb-blackout-map-embed-031020_nbquebelwu

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51 minutes ago, slorch said:

"The reasons for the blackouts is simple and twofold: The first reason is cable providers' desire for exclusive broadcasting rights in their local networks. The second, is MLB's desire to get fans into the stadium for attendance purposes."

 

Bull fucking shit on both accounts.  1)I cannot get local H-town broadcasts in Amarillo, nor do I even have it available on a regional network like I do for the Rangers. 2) I live 600 miles from Houston.  TV availability factors in exactly zero percent in my opportunity to attend a game at MMP. I live almost 200 miles closer to Denver, but they're not local. Kansas City Royals are 8 miles farther from me than MMP, and they aren't local either...for a good gotdam reason.

What's dumb AF is that even when I tried last year to PAY MLB for access, they are still blacked out because I live in the state of Texas.  When the Astros play on TBS or TNT or whatever...blacked out.   It's so fucking stupid.  Here's a map of the "local" areas.  Check out poor Iowa.  MLB just hates their ass.

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It’s so fucking stupid. MLB should want as many eyes on their product as possible, even if it might cost them a minimal amount in tv rights fees (which if they sold their product properly, it wouldn’t).  The fact that you can get billions of dollars in content for $20/month with Nexflix, but watching one live baseball game a week costs a minimum of $70/month is just ridiculous and short sighted by MLB.

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I don't get the complaints that mlb should change their local tv model to make less money for themselves. If you don't think it's worth it, don't buy it.

 

 

 

It's all moot anyway as the RSN bubble has burst. It's just a matter of the current contracts expiring, which is why mlb is starting to look at other options for what's next.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't get the complaints that mlb should change their local tv model to make less money for themselves. If you don't think it's worth it, don't buy it.

 

 

 

It's all moot anyway as the RSN bubble has burst. It's just a matter of the current contracts expiring, which is why mlb is starting to look at other options for what's next.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am not local to Houston by virtually any definition other than MLB's.

I wanted to pay them my money for their product, but cannot watch Astros because I am somehow local.

It is idiotic.

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53 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see the point of settling on contracts ahead of arbitration. Is the board ever going to make them pay more than what the player agrees to separately before hitting arb? 

The arbitrator can only pick the team’s or player’s number, nothing in between. From a team standpoint, they don’t especially like to go to arbitration because then they have to minimize the player’s accomplishments. Not great for the relationship. 

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We won 14 games this century before this current run. 
my guess is we are #5 for the century behind the Yanks, Red Sox, Dodgers and Giants and just ahead of the cardinals. If we win a title next year likely move past everyone for the Century but that’s just a guess. 

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We won 14 games this century before this current run. 
my guess is we are #5 for the century behind the Yanks, Red Sox, Dodgers and Giants and just ahead of the cardinals. If we win a title next year likely move past everyone for the Century but that’s just a guess. 
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I am not local to Houston by virtually any definition other than MLB's.
I wanted to pay them my money for their product, but cannot watch Astros because I am somehow local.
It is idiotic.

Yep. I live 207 miles from the park and can watch every MLB team on their app because it's free with Tmobile EXCEPT THE ONE FUCKING TEAM I WANT TO WATCH.

It wouldn't be so bad, but all the illegal streams dried up last year and vpn stopped working with their app.
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On 1/15/2023 at 7:10 AM, slorch said:

"The reasons for the blackouts is simple and twofold: The first reason is cable providers' desire for exclusive broadcasting rights in their local networks. The second, is MLB's desire to get fans into the stadium for attendance purposes."

 

Bull fucking shit on both accounts.  1)I cannot get local H-town broadcasts in Amarillo, nor do I even have it available on a regional network like I do for the Rangers. 2) I live 600 miles from Houston.  TV availability factors in exactly zero percent in my opportunity to attend a game at MMP. I live almost 200 miles closer to Denver, but they're not local. Kansas City Royals are 8 miles farther from me than MMP, and they aren't local either...for a good gotdam reason.

What's dumb AF is that even when I tried last year to PAY MLB for access, they are still blacked out because I live in the state of Texas.  When the Astros play on TBS or TNT or whatever...blacked out.   It's so fucking stupid.  Here's a map of the "local" areas.  Check out poor Iowa.  MLB just hates their ass.

mlb-blackout-map-embed-031020_nbquebelwu

Yup. I live in ABQ, so luckily I can watch the Astros via the MLB package. I cannot, however watch the Rockies or D-Backs. Which isn’t that big of a deal I guess, but like you say - in no way could I be considered “local” to Denver or Phoenix, and the blackout has no impact on how likely I am to drive 6 hours to Denver to attend a game.

In fact, it probably makes it less likely: the AAA team in ABQ is the Rockies’ affiliate. I go to a handful of their games every year. If I could watch the Rockies on TV, I may be more likely to become more familiar with their overall system, to keep up better with their prospects coming through ABQ, and, with more general familiarity and interest, I may be more likely to get to Coors more often (we take a summer trip to Estes Park every summer, but it never occurs to me to stay in Denver for a night and take in a ballgame). Instead, I’ve been to one Rockies game in the 6 years I’ve lived here , and I kind of forget that the Rockies even exist (yes, part of that is because they’re a bizarre franchise who is almost never particularly competitive or interesting).

All that is to say - there is no major professional team in NM…it isn’t practical to expect a large number of NM residents to attend Rockies games with any regularity. There is a natural local tie-in to the franchise with the AAA affiliate (which draws fans pretty well). Yet people here don’t seem particularly interested in the Rockies at all. I have to think that blacking out their games here reduces their popularity in an entire state.

Anyway, I get that I could probably figure out a way to subscribe to some cable provider here and get rockies games if I really wanted to, and that these deals were signed when cord cutting was perhaps less ubiquitous, so I am just kind of yelling at clouds here…but it does seems absurd that they deliberately undercut an entire potential market’s ability to develop a relationship with a team.

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13 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

Yup. I live in ABQ, so luckily I can watch the Astros via the MLB package. I cannot, however watch the Rockies or D-Backs. Which isn’t that big of a deal I guess, but like you say - in no way could I be considered “local” to Denver or Phoenix, and the blackout has no impact on how likely I am to drive 6 hours to Denver to attend a game.

In fact, it probably makes it less likely: the AAA team in ABQ is the Rockies’ affiliate. I go to a handful of their games every year. If I could watch the Rockies on TV, I may be more likely to become more familiar with their overall system, to keep up better with their prospects coming through ABQ, and, with more general familiarity and interest, I may be more likely to get to Coors more often (we take a summer trip to Estes Park every summer, but it never occurs to me to stay in Denver for a night and take in a ballgame). Instead, I’ve been to one Rockies game in the 6 years I’ve lived here , and I kind of forget that the Rockies even exist (yes, part of that is because they’re a bizarre franchise who is almost never particularly competitive or interesting).

All that is to say - there is no major professional team in NM…it isn’t practical to expect a large number of NM residents to attend Rockies games with any regularity. There is a natural local tie-in to the franchise with the AAA affiliate (which draws fans pretty well). Yet people here don’t seem particularly interested in the Rockies at all. I have to think that blacking out their games here reduces their popularity in an entire state.

Anyway, I get that I could probably figure out a way to subscribe to some cable provider here and get rockies games if I really wanted to, and that these deals were signed when cord cutting was perhaps less ubiquitous, so I am just kind of yelling at clouds here…but it does seems absurd that they deliberately undercut an entire potential market’s ability to develop a relationship with a team.

MLB: “don’t care. Got paid.” (By the RSN).

 

 

but yeah as mentioned multiple times above, just a stupid way to promote you product.

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44 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Out of those 3 pick the Braves dude.
 

Or interview the guy directly under him who has been with the braves longer and oh yeah also was hired by Jeff Luhnow as one of his earliest hires and worked for the Astros for six years before joining the Braves in 2018.

Mike Fast would make sense as the new Astros GM but part of me thinks he may have left on bad terms with Crane? Regardless it seems odd to me that his name isn't mentioned as a top candidate given his connections to the Astros and the success of both the Astros and Braves since 2017.

 

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