2023 Official Astros World Champs Offseason Thread

[Planet Houston 4930]

[CycleTex87 2981]

I mean all the confetti falling in random places on the field, Champagne spraying all over the locker room, beads and towels just chunked into the population during the parade, everything is totally off the rails Astros, get it together!

[kevwun 15842]

The Astros pay Jeremy Pena so badly that he recently had to take an off-season job at a fast food restaurant.  They're monsters.

[runthebone 8027]

Who is going to hire Click when he's bitching and moaning to reporters all day long?

[henrygandorf 29194]

not to mention the odds to win the al west next year are probably in the neighborhood of 1-4 or something (one to four, not one in four) and odds to get to the alcs are likely 50-75% on fangraphs.  but sure, pets heads and all that.

the offseason.  ain't it a bitch.

[Gourmand 7774]

Passan is such a bitch. He needs to get punched in the face and I imagine Crane wants to be the one to do it. That article is the definition of a hit piece sourced from a bitter ex. 

"palace intrigue"

"general manager under siege"

"preening about with institutional arrogance"

"tottering in the aftermath of a scandal"

"new GM one of the highest ranking remaining officials from the sullied 2017 team"

 

What a hyperbolic piece of shit you are, Jeff Passan.

 

[David Dennison 18944]

Jeff Passan is concerned, y'all.

[Chapo 104]

But dID YoU KNow THaT hE wENT to daRTmOUTh? Give him the job!

[Pimphand 5835]

Just hire Luhnow I dont know why this is even an issue for fucks sake.

[Mez2 4025]

Jeff Passan is a faget

[Chuckie Finster 22716]

Was there ever even a peep of conflict between Luhnow and Crane? Feel like this entire situation is simply two incompatible dudes butting heads, except one really likes getting his story out to the media.

[henrygandorf 29194]

11 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Just hire Luhnow I dont know why this is even an issue for fucks sake.

if we're already leaning into being the evil empire, why the fuck not.

[The Dog 44092]

13 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

Just hire Luhnow I dont know why this is even an issue for fucks sake.

 

6 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Was there ever even a peep of conflict between Luhnow and Crane? Feel like this entire situation is simply two incompatible dudes butting heads, except one really likes getting his story out to the media.

IIRC Luhnow lied about the sign stealing to Crane AND didn't post the letter from Manfred in the clubhouse telling teams to stop it. Not to rehash history but I think there's a reason he's the only one not still in MLB. Everyone else landed on their feet including Hinch and Cora (who was one of the ringleaders). 

ETA there was also the rumors of a toxic environment in the front office that Luhnow allowed to fester as well as the Taubman bullshit.

Edited November 15, 2022 by The Dog

[henrygandorf 29194]

Just now, The Dog said:

 

IIRC Luhnow lied about the sign stealing to Crane AND didn't post the letter from Manfred in the clubhouse telling teams to stop it. Not to rehash history but I think there's a reason he's the only one not still in MLB. Everyone else landed on their feet including Hinch and Cora (who was one of the ringleaders). 

you could argue beltran isn't, but point taken.

i've seen a lot of "luhnow sued the astros, you don't come back from that."  that's just not true at all and i'm sure we all know a scenario where a lawsuit carries very little ill will a few years later, if not sooner.

[Pimphand 5835]

2 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

IIRC Luhnow lied about the sign stealing to Crane AND didn't post the letter from Manfred in the clubhouse telling teams to stop it. Not to rehash history but I think there's a reason he's the only one not still in MLB. Everyone else landed on their feet including Hinch and Cora (who was one of the ringleaders). 

And at this point IDGAF about that anymore. Watching all the hypocritical bitches whine and cry the last 3 seasons has removed every single iota of sympathy I ever had. Fuck them in their stupid faces and lean into it.

[Gourmand 7774]

I mean, if you're gonna write an entire piece around the narrative of a billionaire asshole owner who wants to help run the ship, the obvious comparison isn't Jerry Jones. It's Robert Kraft. 

[The Dog 44092]

Just now, Pimphand said:

And at this point IDGAF about that anymore. Watching all the hypocritical bitches whine and cry the last 3 seasons has removed every single iota of sympathy I ever had. Fuck them in their stupid faces and lean into it.

Oh I completely agree with the sentiment.

However, the "lying to your boss" part is hard to get over (for Crane). I also have to think there is more that we don't know and need to accept the fact that ship has sailed and is never coming back. It's a shame because Luhnow was the architect of this dynasty.

[WBT 20650]

Thinking about it more, Passan's story only brought up Ausmus because he met with Bagwell.

Those 2 are boys, it probably had nothing to do with a job with the Astros.  They could have just been heading out to Treasures.

[TonyTexas 10521]

Should be some roster moves today as it’s the deadline to players on the 40-man to avoid the rule five draft in December. We’re  currently at 34 players.

Edited November 15, 2022 by TonyTexas

[Chuckie Finster 22716]

46 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

IIRC Luhnow lied about the sign stealing to Crane AND didn't post the letter from Manfred in the clubhouse telling teams to stop it. Not to rehash history but I think there's a reason he's the only one not still in MLB. Everyone else landed on their feet including Hinch and Cora (who was one of the ringleaders). 

ETA there was also the rumors of a toxic environment in the front office that Luhnow allowed to fester as well as the Taubman bullshit.

Oh I’m not even referencing Luhnow in the hopes he would return.  I was just saying we never heard any of these “overbearing/hard for a GM to work for” narratives surrounding Crane until Click.

I think Crane only gets involved when he doesn’t trust the person doing the job, and it’s obvious that he didn’t trust Click.

[Jebus 1326]

1 hour ago, runthebone said:

Who is going to hire Click when he's bitching and moaning to reporters all day long?

Oh but it says right in the article that click refused to comment. So there’s simply no way any of this is coming from him, no way no sir wink wink nudge nudge 

[Jshep34 2320]

Goes back to player in locker room saying fuck them, when asked about national media coming into locker room during world series celebration.

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[IDIOTsavant 8502]

1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

I think Crane only gets involved when he doesn’t trust the person doing the job, and it’s obvious that he didn’t trust Click.

Based on all of the “unsourced” hatchet job stories that have popped up, the lack of trust seems warranted IMO.

[Scraps 13570]

Passan is such a little twat.

Does anyone know why Ausmus was in town Friday? I do. Because Craig fucking Biggio was being honored by the Sunshine Kids and Ausmus and Bagwell were part of that ceremony because of their relationship with Biggio.


JFC i should have whipped his ass when I had free shot to during any of the WS home games, but not worth being arrested and getting banned from MMP. Fucking pompous dork.

[henrygandorf 29194]

16 minutes ago, Scraps said:

JFC i should have whipped his ass when I had free shot to during any of the WS home games, but not worth being arrested and getting banned from MMP. Fucking pompous dork.

dude take one for the team.

[Scraps 13570]

dude take one for the team.

I don't even like 90% of the people here

[tx 3 putt 77287]

33 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Passan is such a little twat.

Does anyone know why Ausmus was in town Friday? I do. Because Craig fucking Biggio was being honored by the Sunshine Kids and Ausmus and Bagwell were part of that ceremony because of their relationship with Biggio.


JFC i should have whipped his ass when I had free shot to during any of the WS home games, but not worth being arrested and getting banned from MMP. Fucking pompous dork.

punching the 2024 Astros manager wouldn’t look good for you 

[Scraps 13570]

punching the 2024 Astros manager wouldn’t look good for you 

In what universe do you think Jeff Passan would be a manager of anything except his Dungeons and Dragons game night?

[tx 3 putt 77287]

2 minutes ago, Scraps said:

8 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

punching the 2024 Astros manager wouldn’t look good for you 

In what universe do you think Jeff Passan would be a manager of anything except his Dungeons and Dragons game night?

hahaha, thought you were talking about asmus 

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

Cross Rizzo off:

 

[kevwun 15842]

Rizzo is  resigning with the Yankees per bowtie.

[wildcat09 29365]

3 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

IIRC Luhnow lied about the sign stealing to Crane AND didn't post the letter from Manfred in the clubhouse telling teams to stop it. Not to rehash history but I think there's a reason he's the only one not still in MLB. Everyone else landed on their feet including Hinch and Cora (who was one of the ringleaders). 

ETA there was also the rumors of a toxic environment in the front office that Luhnow allowed to fester as well as the Taubman bullshit.

Luhnow isn't irreplaceable and this shit is the reason I don't want him back. As good as he is at certain parts of the job, he undermined a lot of it by trading for Osuna and cultivating a shitty atmosphere. It also didn't help that he gave zero fucks about the bullpen.

It can't be impossible to find someone who can do math but also understands there's a human element to this game.

[Jebus 1326]

Well that was quite a ride. Anyway what’s up with you, Abreu? 

[Scraps 13570]

Cross Rizzo off:
 

This figure should be entertaining cause they probably were on full tilt

[Scraps 13570]

Well looks like its this

[HtownHorn 14760]

So, it's a 2/34, with a CO for a third year at 17M, with a $6M buyout. Making the deal a 2/40, or 3/51.

[Dondrysdale1 363]

It’s almost like the Astros wanted it out there that they were pursuing.

[henrygandorf 29194]

not sure how we can beat a yankee team with rizzo on it.

Edited November 15, 2022 by henrygandorf

[Jebus 1326]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

not sure how we can beat a yankee team with rizzo on it.

Just wait till they sign judge

[Scraps 13570]

28 minutes ago, Dondrysdale1 said:

It’s almost like the Astros wanted it out there that they were pursuing.

CJ Nitkowski said he hopes whoever leaked that info is getting a cut lol 

[tx 3 putt 77287]

5 minutes ago, Scraps said:

CJ Nitkowski said he hopes whoever leaked that info is getting a cut lol 

rizzo’s agent leaked that info ha

[henrygandorf 29194]

11 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

rizzo’s agent leaked that info ha

it's the obvious move if you want the yankees to make a deal asap.

[Mez2 4025]

Meh, rather have Lizzo lol

[TonyTexas 10521]

 

[henrygandorf 29194]

 

[Scraps 13570]

Lol at that Yuli #......if someone pays that, including us, they getting fleeced.  

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

 

[WBT 20650]

Julks went to Clear Brook and UH.  

[LCHorn 2629]

53 minutes ago, Scraps said:

CJ Nitkowski said he hopes whoever leaked that info is getting a cut lol 

Pos rep for the blast from the past…

Edited November 15, 2022 by LCHorn

[TonyTexas 10521]

At some point the Astros are going to have to balance the 40-man roster better. They currently have 36 on it and only 14 position players, 3 of which are catchers. This has been a concern of mine for a while.