2023 Official Astros World Champs Offseason Thread

[texashorne 1177]

2 hours ago, Seasick Sailor said:

 

Not a fan of our guys participating in this. I wish they would assemble team USA from dudes who didn't play in November. 

[The Dog 43792]

 

[tx 3 putt 76314]

Hope he wins WS mvp twice !!!

[Scraps 13540]

Just sharing a 1970 Topps card I got in today because that jersey is

[Wulaw Horn 18972]

2 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Anyone who’s ever done a lot of blow knows it makes you smarter not dumber. I sometimes think Wulaw is a coke fiend. 

Never done an illegal drug in my life. But if I was going to do any drug I have always said I wanted to do coke. 

[Rockethorn1978 6061]

21 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Never done an illegal drug in my life. But if I was going to do any drug I have always said I wanted to do coke. 

[Hornsbay22 463]

41 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I don't like coke just like the way it smells.

[tx 3 putt 76314]

1 hour ago, Scraps said:

Just sharing a 1970 Topps card I got in today because that jersey is

so the Astros have had 3 of the top 5 second basemen ever ?  Maybe 3 of top 3 

[henrygandorf 29174]

2 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

mvp should be like $5mm.  if he wins an mvp we're gonna win 125 games that year.

[tx 3 putt 76314]

2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

mvp should be like $5mm.  if he wins an mvp we're gonna win 125 games that year.

 

 

[kevwun 15620]

Lol at a 40 million dollar FA deal being the largest ever for the Rays.

[tx 3 putt 76314]

1 minute ago, kevwun said:

Lol at a 40 million dollar FA deal being the largest ever for the Rays.

Red Sox offered him the same deal. He lives in Orlando 

[henrygandorf 29174]

i'm all for al east teams improving themselves.

[tx 3 putt 76314]

23 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

i'm all for al east teams improving themselves.

screws the Phillies too 

[tx 3 putt 76314]

https://sportstalk790.iheart.com/content/2022-12-01-dusty-baker-talks-life-after-winning-the-world-series-on-astroline/?fbclid=IwAR0da5pYWKpCfW05z56EJKJeJDBPlA3Uq3Ys9BNDoK4HmJZnHecI3DcILTY
 

first astroline of the off season 

[tx 3 putt 76314]

 

[uoftorange 1386]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

Lol at a 40 million dollar FA deal being the largest ever for the Rays.

Last one was in 1998 the year of the franchise inception

 

Edited December 2, 2022 by uoftorange

[tx 3 putt 76314]

That’s a damn good interview with dusty 

dusty : I’m going to take a trip to Hawaii and you won’t be able to find me. But Jim crane and bagwell will be able to get a hold of me 

Edited December 2, 2022 by tx 3 putt

[Wulaw Horn 18972]

Somewhere Click is in a bar laughing at the Astros signing Abreu and maybe Contreras and nodding his head in earnest agreement with the Rays signing… who exactly?  

[The Dog 43792]

 

[Wulaw Horn 18972]

58 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

I mean, I might collapse into a puddle if that happens after the Abreu signing. It’s like Jim Crane gets me man. And wants me to be happy. 

Edited December 2, 2022 by Wulaw Horn

[kevwun 15620]

20 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

That's just too much. 43 million a year?  I can't imagine the Astros would give him 40.

[tx 3 putt 76314]

Listened to that dusty interview twice :

- we are damn lucky to have this man leading our team 

- he’s very much involved in player decisions 

- damn I’m ready for spring training 

[runthebone 7932]

43 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

That's because it would be stupid to give him that contract.

[tx 3 putt 76314]

9 minutes ago, runthebone said:

That's because it would be stupid to give him that contract.

if and when we make another move, Yankees or Dodgers make a panic signing and give it to him 

[tx 3 putt 76314]

[tx 3 putt 76314]

 

[Gourmand 7774]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

That's just too much. 43 million a year?  I can't imagine the Astros would give him 40.

He still owes the team for the 66 million he got for pitching one time in two years.

[Intercourse With Gray 140]

2 hours ago, kevwun said:

That's just too much. 43 million a year?  I can't imagine the Astros would give him 40.

This is a brain dead contract to give, given our players and his age. I love JV but he's gone if he needs that much. We have too much youth to commit that payday to him

[Reese Bennett 3605]

6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

so the Astros have had 3 of the top 5 second basemen ever ?  Maybe 3 of top 3 

Did Rogers Hornsby, Nap Lajois, and Jackie Robinson play for the Astros? 

[runthebone 7932]

4 hours ago, Reese Bennett said:

Did Rogers Hornsby, Nap Lajois, and Jackie Robinson play for the Astros? 

You could certain argue those guys are #2-4 after Bill Doran.

[texashorne 1177]

6 hours ago, Intercourse With Gray said:

This is a brain dead contract to give, given our players and his age. I love JV but he's gone if he needs that much. We have too much youth to commit that payday to him

This is assuming that another team will give him that much. I'm holding hope that the Astros have the strongest offer... or at least in the ballpark and maybe its close enough for JV to want to remain on a contending team. Also, the Cali team's have to contend with the state income tax. One can dream. 

[kevwun 15620]

And choking in the playoffs.  Though I don't know if he cares about that as much anymore as long as he gets the regular season wins.

[Wulaw Horn 18972]

9 hours ago, Gourmand said:

He still owes the team for the 66 million he got for pitching one time in two years.

He owes the insurance company more likely than not. 

[Frank Drebin 5616]

Let JV go to Yanks or Dodgers.  We don’t need a regular season pitcher.  And his results in playoffs are middling.  And in World Series — awful.  That money is much better spent elsewhere.  JV might no hit us in July.  And then we will light him up in October. 
 

 

[Gourmand 7774]

36 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

He owes the insurance company more likely than not. 

Eh whatever, point being he got a fuckton of money to pitch for the Astros and didn't pitch for two years. He can get what the market will pay him but as an Astros fan first and a fan of JV second, what exactly motivates a guy who already has a 9-figure net worth: money, championships, or a run at 300 wins?  By any objective standard the Houston Astros offer the best opportunity for those latter two motivations, and the money they are likely offering is probably north of 30mm/yr. 

JV is a hoss and I'd love to have him run it back with us, but not at that ridiculous price and imo he can fuck right off if it all just comes down to money. 

[Wulaw Horn 18972]

3 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

Eh whatever, point being he got a fuckton of money to pitch for the Astros and didn't pitch for two years. He can get what the market will pay him but as an Astros fan first and a fan of JV second, what exactly motivates a guy who already has a 9-figure net worth: money, championships, or a run at 300 wins?  By any objective standard the Houston Astros offer the best opportunity for those latter two motivations, and the money they are likely offering is probably north of 30mm/yr. 

JV is a hoss and I'd love to have him run it back with us, but not at that ridiculous price and imo he can fuck right off if it all just comes down to money. 

I was just teasing a little bit yeah, agreed more or less. I don’t have a problem with him leaving and it won’t bother me if he does, but I won’t lose sleep over it or pine for him to come back. 

[TonyTexas 10481]

I think JV feels like he paid for his injury years with the contract he signed to pitch for us in 2022. 

[Gourmand 7774]

10 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I was just teasing a little bit yeah, agreed more or less. I don’t have a problem with him leaving and it won’t bother me if he does, but I won’t lose sleep over it or pine for him to come back. 

Shit, throw that money at Chris Bassitt if JV declines. I think he'd be a good fit in the Astros rotation.

[Murfdogg21 4412]

2 hours ago, texashorne said:

Also, the Cali team's have to contend with the state income tax. One can dream. 

This should be a major advantage for all Texas teams, but it is rarely mentioned as a tie breaker and even rarer that an athlete will take less on the contract even if they end up keeping more. Probably just the competitiveness of “my contract was bigger than yours!”

If LA offers 2 for $80, say “we got your 2 for $70 right here! Same take home pay!”

[henrygandorf 29174]

4 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

This should be a major advantage for all Texas teams, but it is rarely mentioned as a tie breaker and even rarer that an athlete will take less on the contract even if they end up keeping more. Probably just the competitiveness of “my contract was bigger than yours!”

there’s an obvious reason for this and it seems like you already know what it is. 

[Gourmand 7774]

2 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

If LA offers 2 for $80, say “we got your 2 for $70 right here! Same take home pay!”

Maybe but LA seems like a pretty great place to live if you're rich. Right, HG?

[UTexasFight 9376]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

He owes the insurance company more likely than not. 

Who then raised their rates to the end customer to cover their losses…so he owes all of us. 

[runthebone 7932]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

I think JV feels like he paid for his injury years with the contract he signed to pitch for us in 2022. 

Well, if he had sucked, he could have still gotten another $25.

[tx 3 putt 76314]

34 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

This should be a major advantage for all Texas teams, but it is rarely mentioned as a tie breaker and even rarer that an athlete will take less on the contract even if they end up keeping more. Probably just the competitiveness of “my contract was bigger than yours!”

If LA offers 2 for $80, say “we got your 2 for $70 right here! Same take home pay!”

Meh, they can claim their residence anywhere and/or set themselves up as an llc ?

Also, they’re paying taxes in every state and city they play in. 

[tx 3 putt 76314]

Judge needs to sign so everything can break loose 

[Murfdogg21 4412]

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

Meh, they can claim their residence anywhere and/or set themselves up as an llc ?

Also, they’re paying taxes in every state and city they play in. 

81 home games plus the roadies in other tax free places (Rangers, Seattle, Tampa) is a lot more tax advantage than the other way around playing in California or NY. I don’t think the “claim residence elsewhere” strategy flies with state IRS depts. 

[tx 3 putt 76314]

 

[tx 3 putt 76314]

Verlander had a great great run here. 2 WS titles and 2 more appearances. He was a great clubhouse guy and very easy to cheer for. I thank him for the everything he contributed here. 

I wish him all the best the next three years, if he’s with another team, I hope for zero WS titles for him. I don’t think he’ll care either way, he’s playing for $$ not the rings. 

[tx 3 putt 76314]