2023 Official Astros World Champs Offseason Thread

[Scraps 13571]

Trea is a beast....but for like a 5 yr deal not 11.

[kevwun 15884]

They're gonna be paying Harper and Turner 52 million a year to be pinch hitters the last few years of their deals.

Edited December 5, 2022 by kevwun

[henrygandorf 29194]

9 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

they are slinging some money !!!

they have been.  their payroll was huge last year they just underachieved during the season (and bryce got hurt).  that's why i always thought their "underdog" story was a little silly.  yeah, they were a 6 seed, but it's not like some cinderella story fuck outta here with that shit.

[TonyTexas 10525]

10 minutes ago, kevwun said:

and years.  They just gave someone about to turn 30 an 11 year contract.

With no deferrals and no-trade. 

[tx 3 putt 77399]

4 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

they have been.  their payroll was huge last year they just underachieved during the season (and bryce got hurt).  that's why i always thought their "underdog" story was a little silly.  yeah, they were a 6 seed, but it's not like some cinderella story fuck outta here with that shit.

 

they still need pitching 

[Rockethorn1978 6102]

Alright who we signing next.

[Wulaw Horn 19151]

1 hour ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Alright who we signing next.

Contreras. 

[The Dog 44138]

Yankees get their man!

 

[henrygandorf 29194]

[kevwun 15884]

That was their punishment for colluding with the Mets.

[runthebone 8036]

Looks like prices are going to be high this year.  Still not sure about 3 years, but maybe the Montero deal will look...OK?

[Pimphand 5868]

Haha locking up Harper till he is 39 and Turner until he is 40.

Never change Dave Dombrowski lord you fucked up the Tigers with Cabrera's contract and rather than learning from your mistake you double down.  What a fucktard.

[runthebone 8036]

I have multiple issues with Benintendi, but it seems underemphasized that he broke a hamate bone in September.  I know he has no power, but that can't be good, right?

Edited December 5, 2022 by runthebone

[tx 3 putt 77399]

6 minutes ago, runthebone said:

I have multiple issues with Benintendi, but it seems underemphasized that he broke a hamate bone in September.  I know he has no power, but that can't be good, right?

 

injuries only matter with brantley, please read the thread

 

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by tx 3 putt

[runthebone 8036]

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

injuries only matter with brantley, please read the thread

 

 

 

Good point.  Hope he gives us first crack once he can prove he's healthy.

 

I also just reminded myself that Jose Abreu is going to hit fucking 6th in this lineup.  Haha.  Holy shit.

[Fudge Nuggets 19220]

3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

yes, 4 World Series appearances and two rings. Should be 3 or 4 rings, but JV performance issues cost us 

Three Astros WS appearances for Verlander.  2021 don't count for him.

[HtownHorn 14776]

20 minutes ago, runthebone said:

 

Good point.  Hope he gives us first crack once he can prove he's healthy.

 

I also just reminded myself that Jose Abreu is going to hit fucking 6th in this lineup.  Haha.  Holy shit.

and Benintendi would be batting 7th-9th depending on matchups. Any player the Astros acquire moving forward is batting in the bottom 3rd of the lineup.

[BornOrange 1441]

8 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Three Astros WS appearances for Verlander.  2021 don't count for him.

Yeah, they didn't even let him throw out the first pitch.

[tx 3 putt 77399]

 

[BornOrange 1441]

5 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Bulletin board material.

[runthebone 8036]

16 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

 

None of those cocksucker teams has a Rylan Bannon.

[Fudge Nuggets 19220]

For a bunch of stat dorks, fangraphs is dumb.

[Mstrat 16]

 

There’s Astros then Braves. Then there’s everyone else.

[Wulaw Horn 19151]

17 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

They have no ducking idea how good Javier and Hunter Brown are going to be. 
Astros have 3 of the top 30 starters in baseball, another guy that’s top 75 and another guy that’s top 100. And that doesn’t count Hunter Brown who I absolutely believe will be rookie of the year and end the season as a top 50 starter on his way to Top 10-20 status like Javier did this year. 
Anyone not having the astros with a top 6 rotation right now is a paste eating smooth brained moron 

[tx 3 putt 77399]

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

They have no ducking idea how good Javier and Hunter Brown are going to be. 
Astros have 3 of the top 30 starters in baseball, another guy that’s top 75 and another guy that’s top 100. And that doesn’t count Hunter Brown who I absolutely believe will be rookie of the year and end the season as a top 50 starter on his way to Top 10-20 status like Javier did this year. 
Anyone not having the astros with a top 6 rotation right now is a paste eating smooth brained moron 

brown will be a bullpen guy / #6 starter 

javiwr is the real deal 

Edited December 5, 2022 by tx 3 putt

[Fudge Nuggets 19220]

3 minutes ago, Mstrat said:

There’s Astros then Braves. Then there’s everyone else.

Astros, Braves, Dodgers then everyone else.

But you don't get to be cutting-edge / riveting by picking the obvious.  No, you have to go out on a limb kind of like picking the Mariners to win the AL West last year.

[Wulaw Horn 19151]

52 minutes ago, runthebone said:

I have multiple issues with Benintendi, but it seems underemphasized that he broke a hamate bone in September.  I know he has no power, but that can't be good, right?

I don’t want Benintendi as anything higher than my 6th choice, but I wouldn’t be too concerned about the Hammate bone.  From doing my research when it looked like that might get a Yordan the non thump won’t be affected at all and the power always comes back after 6-18 months. He doesn’t have a ton of power and his schedule would limit what power he does for at worst 2023. If he’s a get on base guy in 2023 you could just hit him 9th and use him as a second leadoff man on days Contreras catches. 
but yeah- 5th or 6th choice for me for sure. 

[Wulaw Horn 19151]

1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Astros, Braves, Dodgers then everyone else.

But you don't get to be cutting-edge / riveting by picking the obvious.  No, you have to go out on a limb kind of like picking the Mariners to win the AL West last year.

Fucking 60% of the dorks that write/talk about baseball we’re on the mariners or angels limb. Fucking assholes and stupid ones at that. 

[TonyTexas 10525]

If this is the plan, why would they be interested in Benintendi? He’s not really a centerfielder and you’d like more pop from your DH

 

[Wulaw Horn 19151]

1 minute ago, TonyTexas said:

If this is the plan, why would they be interested in Benintendi? He’s not really a centerfielder and you’d like more pop from your DH

 

How involved do you think Dusty is in off-season maneuvering and FA acquisition?  Also, they might figure they can play him in CF some. 

[tx 3 putt 77399]

Benetendi or Contreras, no more than two years. If they want longer I’d pass 

[HOOKEM4 5041]

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

[Hank Chinaski 6320]

1 hour ago, Wulaw Horn said:

They have no ducking idea how good Javier and Hunter Brown are going to be. 

I mean, Javier is already there. 200 K in 150 IP and a 2.54 ERA (152 ERA+). Then was untouchable in the postseason. 

[Wulaw Horn 19151]

11 minutes ago, Hank Chinaski said:

I mean, Javier is already there. 200 K in 150 IP and a 2.54 ERA (152 ERA+). Then was untouchable in the postseason. 

Nope. Javier is winning a Cy Young too as he learns to pitch a little more efficiently and stop with the 4 or 5 inning 100 pitch jobs he occasionally does. It’s a small step but also a next one. That’s what differentiates all stars/fringe all stars from Cy Young guys. He’s not that yet but will be, probably next year. 

[TonyTexas 10525]

Nice for José, Yordan, Framber and JV  

 

Edited December 6, 2022 by TonyTexas

[UTexasFight 9528]

11 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Nice for José, Yordan, Framber and JV  

 

4 out of 14 seems pretty good.

Dodgers next closest with 2

(and the angels but they aren’t a real team inasmuch as they are Trout and Ohtani and the 23 dwarfs)

[TonyTexas 10525]

1 minute ago, UTexasFight said:

4 out of 14 seems pretty good.

It’s actually 4 out of 16. But yes, 25% of the All-MLB team does seem pretty good. 

 

[WBT 20666]

4 hours ago, Pimphand said:

Haha locking up Harper till he is 39 and Turner until he is 40.

Never change Dave Dombrowski lord you fucked up the Tigers with Cabrera's contract and rather than learning from your mistake you double down.  What a fucktard.

That's his MO and people think it could get him into the hall of fame.  Overpay on long term FA deals, trade away the whole farm for current value, hope you win a ring, and move onto the next job before it's time to pay the piper.

[TonyTexas 10525]

Tucker and Pressly make 2nd team 

 

[The Dog 44138]

 

[runthebone 8036]

I was confused for a second then realized the pitchers were alphabetical.  What a great season.

[Limp Brisket 546]

[runthebone 8036]

1 hour ago, UTexasFight said:

4 out of 14 seems pretty good.

Dodgers next closest with 2

(and the angels but they aren’t a real team inasmuch as they are Trout and Ohtani and the 23 dwarfs)

24 dwarfs...also, Dude, dwarf is not the preferred nomenclature.

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

 

Have to assume they’d want one of Garcia or Urquidy to headline the deal. I’m not so sure I’d be willing to trade starting pitching at this point. We’ll likely need each of our top six during the season.

[tx 3 putt 77399]

All arms are on lockdown 

[HtownHorn 14776]

If the Astros trade for Murphy, Maldonado either accepts a backup role or they trade him. Murphy ain't coming to sit behind Maldonado.

In the golden era of Astros baseball, 1998-now, the Astros have had catchers post a .755+ OPS (Murphy's career mark) 4 times.

Melusky's .888 in 2000

Castro's .835 in 2013

McCann's .759 in 2017

Chirinos' .790 in 2019

Edited December 6, 2022 by HtownHorn

[tx 3 putt 77399]

I don’t see them upsetting the roster / line up like that 

[tx 3 putt 77399]

 

 

[Intercourse With Gray 140]

I really dont think JV will do well in NY but id love to be proven wrong. Dusty gave JV what he wanted. We got a 6 man rotation sometimes and JV got extra time to rest up. Not sure NYM can provide the same level of comfort. Not sure NYM can give him the same run support we have always given him. JV wants 300 wins and I will eat my hat if he gets that for NYM. 

[tx 3 putt 77399]