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Look at you, trying to pretend that your party has any fucking control over Trump. So adorable. Reap what you sow, motherfucker.

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My first job was working in the midway at Gattitown making that sweet government salary of 5.15/hr as a 15 year old so this hits close to home…..   But seriously seeing that facade just gave

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Fox is all in on DeShitis.

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/03/fox-news-is-reportedly-shadowbanning-donald-trump.html

According to four Trump aides who spoke with Semafor, the former president is now facing an unofficial ban at Fox News, with the network refusing to book him or even talk much about him in the context of the Republican presidential primary. “It’s certainly — however you want to say, quiet ban, soft ban, whatever it is — indicative of how the Murdochs feel about Trump in this particular moment,” said one aide. Another said they’ve heard directly from people at Fox News that the policy exists.

While the network did not respond to a request for comment, the approach is playing out on television: Trump hasn’t been on Fox News since September, when its hosts rallied around him in the wake of the Mar-a-Lago raid and he told Sean Hannity that he could declassify documents by “thinking about it.” They even skipped his trip last week to East Palestine, Ohio — a major talking point in the debate over the environmental disaster. Meanwhile, future 2024 also-ran Vivek Ramaswamy has been on the network four times in the ten days since he announced his run. By the metric of showing up on TV, Florida governor Ron DeSantis appears to be the favorite, appearing on Fox shows four times in three days this week.

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Fox is all in on DeShitis.

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/03/fox-news-is-reportedly-shadowbanning-donald-trump.html

According to four Trump aides who spoke with Semafor, the former president is now facing an unofficial ban at Fox News, with the network refusing to book him or even talk much about him in the context of the Republican presidential primary. “It’s certainly — however you want to say, quiet ban, soft ban, whatever it is — indicative of how the Murdochs feel about Trump in this particular moment,” said one aide. Another said they’ve heard directly from people at Fox News that the policy exists.

While the network did not respond to a request for comment, the approach is playing out on television: Trump hasn’t been on Fox News since September, when its hosts rallied around him in the wake of the Mar-a-Lago raid and he told Sean Hannity that he could declassify documents by “thinking about it.” They even skipped his trip last week to East Palestine, Ohio — a major talking point in the debate over the environmental disaster. Meanwhile, future 2024 also-ran Vivek Ramaswamy has been on the network four times in the ten days since he announced his run. By the metric of showing up on TV, Florida governor Ron DeSantis appears to be the favorite, appearing on Fox shows four times in three days this week.

Who? 

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Vivek G. Ramaswamy (/vɪˈvɛk rɑːmɑːˈswɑːmiː/; born August 9, 1985) is an American entrepreneur, author, and conservative political activist.[1] The author of Woke, Inc. (2021) and Nation of Victims (2022),[2] he was labeled "one of the intellectual godfathers of the anti-woke movement" by Politico.[3]

The Intellectual Godfather of the Anti-Woke movement...

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This fucking white devil with his omni- present cross displayed so you know he's a fake Christian piece of shit that doesn't follow the gospel. The pin is slightly less shitty than the necklace popped out of the collar of his dumbass pajamas on his commercials, but only slightly. Fucking Charalatan needs to OD from snorting meth off Jim Bakers flaccid dick

Ahh, I feel better.
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😂😂😂😂😂
 

Since McDaniel's election as chairwoman of the RNC, the Republican Party has had a net loss of seven governorships, three seats in the United States Senate, 19 seats in the House of Representatives, and the presidency. In December 2022, Axios wrote that McDaniel "has thus far failed to preside over a single positive election cycle."

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Republicans urging other Republicans not to give to the RNC because it's controlled by Ronna McDaniel but rather to give to Trump et. al.. directly

We need to urge all Republicans we know to give to Trump, as painful as it may be for us.  The more given to Trump, the less will be given to various state and local Republicans and we can keep the RNC’ losing streak alive.

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Republicans urging other Republicans not to give to the RNC because it's controlled by Ronna McDaniel but rather to give to Trump et. al.. directly.

 

 

That account only has 30,000 followers. “Dan” has even fewer. (He just joined in November and, assuming he’s real, is a certifiable loon.) They’re probably not going to have much influence. How did you even come across that? That seems pretty fringe.

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Trump and other GQPers don't realize that some in the House and Senate actually want to campaign this year that they actually have accomplished some border security. For them, it's not just about helping Trump get elected.

A GOP consultant would tell them that the best campaign message is to pass something immediately BUT that the job isn't done. Elect more republicans and get even better border security in 2025.

Trump won't like that advice for House and Senate candidates. His anti-Biden issues are drying up except for border security. 

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These people who are chopping at the bit for Texit or a Civil War have so romanticized the world idea that they believe it will be fun fighting. They fail to understand it will resemble The Troubles in Northern Ireland, where one’s teenage daughter will be blown up in Mall while hanging out with friends.

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These people who are chopping at the bit for Texit or a Civil War have so romanticized the world idea that they believe it will be fun fighting. They fail to understand it will resemble The Troubles in Northern Ireland, where one’s teenage daughter will be blown up in Mall while hanging out with friends.

This is all you need to know:

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It won't even be hard.  A chatbot can get 10 Trumpers to shoot 50 DeSantis supporters and nobody would know anything about it until it was all over.  And I think we should.

i’m not sure you meant that. But if you did mean that, that would be fine.

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5 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Trump won't like that advice for House and Senate candidates. His anti-Biden issues are drying up except for border security. 

Or taking credit for things that didn’t happen:

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Texit isn't going to happen. The Civil War settled it. Hell, even every conservative's justice Scalia said that. But the hypothetical breakup is an interesting exercise.

As far as social security, it might depend on how the Texas resident maintains US citizenship or if they don't, do they meet the qualifications of a non-US citizen to collect SS.

 

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The only things keeping me from moving out of Texas are my job requires that I be here and proximity to my beloved's daughters who live in the Dallas area. Lyndon Johnson's Texas is long fucking gone. 

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These people who are ch[am]ping at the bit for Texit or a Civil War have so romanticized the world idea that they believe it will be fun fighting. They fail to understand it will resemble The Troubles in Northern Ireland, where one’s teenage daughter will be blown up in Mall while hanging out with friends.

People who think merely being born within certain boundaries makes you somehow special or anything like the persons who created the world within those boundaries are morons. Yahooo! I'm a rootin' tootin' badass who grew up in a suburb of Houston that resembles Anywhere, USA! 

The pussies will back down except for the idiots similar to those on Jan 6 who truly believed they had the support of most of America. The gravy seals will deploy, and the ones who don't runaway will get to see just how romantic it was to die in a small room of the Alamo.

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These people who are chopping at the bit for Texit or a Civil War have so romanticized the world idea that they believe it will be fun fighting. They fail to understand it will resemble The Troubles in Northern Ireland, where one’s teenage daughter will be blown up in Mall while hanging out with friends.

Well, most of them absolutely despise women so I don't know that they'd care about that.

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These people who are chopping at the bit for Texit or a Civil War have so romanticized the world idea that they believe it will be fun fighting. They fail to understand it will resemble The Troubles in Northern Ireland, where one’s teenage daughter will be blown up in Mall while hanging out with friends.

They understand, and they are ok with it. They are willing to sacrifice all at the altar of Trump.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/29/republican-party-feud-turning-point-las-vegas-00138493

Party feud breaks out ahead of RNC meeting in Las Vegas

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LAS VEGAS — Days before the Republican National Committee was set to convene here, hundreds of Republican officials gathered in a casino ballroom Monday to vent their grievances about the party — and warn that it is ill prepared for the 2024 election.

“We are at war,” one man shouted from a microphone at the event, hosted by the conservative group Turning Point Action, lifting his arm in the air. “Where are the tools? Where are all the little things that the left is doing but we don’t?”

The gathering, in the hotel next door to where the RNC will meet later this week, was the culmination of more than a year’s worth of frustration from some Republicans in and surrounding the committee — about its finances, about its struggles to match Democrats’ organizing efforts, about its four-term leader. A year ago this month, the vast majority of the RNC’s members voted in favor of keeping Ronna McDaniel on for another term as chair, despite an ugly reelection fight that exposed rifts and vulnerabilities inside the committee.

But at this point, many grassroots activists say McDaniel has lost their trust, perhaps permanently. They say they’re tired of losing. And whatever facts and figures the RNC provides to defend its record, the arguments sound to them like excuses.

Terry Dittrich, the chair of the Waukesha County, Wisconsin GOP — the largest Republican county in the state — said he received word from the RNC of a Victory 2024 program they’ll launch there this spring. But he and his county party have been attempting to carry out their own voter outreach efforts since July, and Dittrich said the national party should have already established year-round programs there to compete with what he sees Democrats doing.

“The fact of the matter is the same executive committee, the same leadership structure, the same strategic plans, the same ‘victory programs’ are all in place with the same people, and yet we have lost 22 out of 25 statewide races,” Dittrich said, referring to Wisconsin elections over the last dozen or so years — a period beginning before McDaniel was placed in the job by Donald Trump in 2016.

“And so my question would be simple,” he said. “If you're in a business and your business lost 22 of 25 accounts that you were after, would you have the same structure continue? Would you have the same people continuing to lead?”

Turning Point, the youth-oriented advocacy group founded by Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist radio show host with a massive following, has long been one of the sharpest thorns in the RNC’s side. McDaniel and Kirk have traded barbs publicly, including when Kirk and those affiliated with his organization opposed her reelection bid.

The title of Monday’s summit was itself a clear knock on the RNC. A prevailing theme among attendees of the “Restoring National Confidence” gathering, which was open to local chairs and GOP leaders from the most consequential counties, was that the actual RNC wasn’t doing enough to train and support the grassroots.

“They're a bunch of losers. They know it. The grassroots knows it. The donors know it,” Kirk said in an interview. “They lost in ’18. They lost in ’20. They lost in 2022. We have tried to reach out to them many times, and I'm not going to put up with another culture of losing.”

Kirk, who is based in Phoenix, said Turning Point Action is hiring 300 new, full-time workers in Arizona by April to engage in get-out-the-vote work this year.

In response to questions about Turning Point’s criticisms, the RNC pointed to the 73 trainings it held for more than 2,000 local party activists last year; to its “Bank Your Vote” initiative to urge early and absentee GOP voting this year; to the staff it has hired in 15 battleground states for the 2024 election; and to the RNC’s Election Integrity Department that is filing lawsuits across the country.

A spokesperson for the RNC suggested Republicans should keep their focus on Democrats, not intra-party warfare.

“We always encourage outside groups to get involved in get-out-the-vote efforts, in fact, the more the merrier,” said the spokesperson, granted anonymity to speak freely. “We just encourage outside groups to keep their focus on beating Democrats, not each other. After all, there’s a presidential election in 10 months.”

Despite the RNC holding activist trainings throughout the year, the local GOP leaders that attended Monday’s Turning Point gathering in Las Vegas — many of whom received scholarships from the group to make the trip — accused the RNC of putting no clear plan in place to guide them.

“My county is going to flip to blue if we can't get control,” said Maria Holiday, chair of the Republican Party in Johnson County, Kansas, the state’s most populous county. “And I don't see any effective strategies coming out of the RNC down to the grassroots, and that's where the people are going to vote … We're on our own.”

McDaniel is widely seen within the RNC as safe in her role until after the November election, when the committee will begin the process of electing its next chair. Still, the ex-president’s son Donald Trump Jr. was among Republicans who took the stage here Monday.

One RNC member in attendance said he was gauging interest in calling for McDaniel’s resignation when the committee meets later this week. The member, granted anonymity to speak freely about plans still in the works, said some other members have already agreed to do so, but declined to provide their names.

He said he was concerned about how much the RNC actually was doing to ensure that Republicans win elections, “versus saying it with window dressings and putting pretty curtains around it and painting a pretty picture.”

Critics of the RNC and McDaniel have been abuzz in recent days about a line of credit that the committee took out for the year, particularly in light of recent financial reports showing historically low cash levels. Its executive committee this month authorized the potential use of the credit, though a spokesperson said the RNC approves lines of credit as an annual precautionary measure in case money is needed.

While the committee hasn’t needed the credit in recent years, the spokesperson pointed to the RNC drawing millions of dollars from a line of credit during winning cycles in 2016, 2014 and 2010.

Oscar Brock, a member of the RNC’s budget committee and the national committeeman from Tennessee, said fundraising had improved “dramatically” in January after a rough 2023. The RNC’s January financial report is due Feb. 20.

“If that holds up, we may not ever need to access it,” Brock said of the new line of credit.

Trump has been privately critical, at times, with the RNC’s management under McDaniel, though her calls last week for Republicans to unite around him as the likely nominee were well received by top aides to the former president.

Brock, who was among the members who opposed McDaniel’s reelection last year, did not attend Turning Point’s event. He said he has since worked with McDaniel to find areas of common ground. But he called her comments last week about Trump’s inevitability as the party’s nominee a “mistake.”

Jay Shepard, the RNC committeeman from Vermont, said in an interview at the summit Monday that he believes Turning Point is “more right than it’s wrong” when it comes to their outreach strategies. He said he hopes the RNC can have complementary relationships with them and similar grassroots groups.

“I do think it has to be worked out,” said Shepard, who was among around two dozen of the RNC’s 168 members in attendance Monday, with additional members expected to attend the following day.

But every indication Monday was that large swaths of the GOP grassroots aren’t looking for a compromise; but, rather, a more fulsome embrace of sharp-knifed and even conspiratorial politics.

For 90 minutes after lunch, attendees were subjected to a series of presentations by self-described voter fraud investigators associated with MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell. The session, called “The Lindell Plan,” brought the on-stage moderator to tears as she discussed his efforts to prove the baseless accusation that the 2020 election was stolen. Lindell came out at the end, then again later in the day for an extensive second speech.

Later in the day, Tyler Bowyer, the RNC’s Arizona committeeman and the chief operating officer of Turning Point, suggested that grassroots activists begin asking their state party chairs and other RNC members if they are willing to turn over their tax returns to check the sources of their income.

“If you get pushback, there’s probably a problem there,” Bowyer said.

In the meantime, the fired up grassroots group here vowed to also fight to replace current party leadership.

At the summit’s start Monday morning, Fanchon Blythe, the RNC committeewoman from Nebraska, stood in front of a camera streaming for Steve Bannon’s War Room show, recalling how she and other activists succeeded two years ago at overhauling their state’s GOP — ousting the chair, executive director, district chairs, the former RNC committeewoman and a slew of others deemed too aligned with the Republican old guard.

“I used to be the establishment when I first got started in politics,” Blythe said. “But God awakened me.”

 

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