The Republican Civil War - it will be because we destroyed ourselves

[StassneyHorn 6791]

“Stop looking at me, it was the other people who didn’t vote at all or for Hilldawg that are to blame”

Own the hurt pussies.

[StassneyHorn 6791]

You ARE too blame and you are ALSO not the person to talk about tonight

I am infallible and vote for me

[Biff Tannen 46268]

You talking to yourself there Stassney?

[YGIFS 19460]

You're not gonna open with that, are you?  

[DigglerontheHoof 21567]

Regarding Hillary talk:

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26976]

13 hours ago, Hammerin Hank said:

That’s disgusting 

 

13 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Let me guess. You voted for Gary Johnson. 

Just because she was a better choice than the worst option a major party ever offered to the American public doesn't make Hillary a good option. She's the most unpopular national Democrat in a generation for good reasons.   Not wanting to elect the spouse of a living former president is legitimate. She's a terrible candidate, she learned nothing from 2008 and ran the least effective presidential campaign messaging in living memory. The Clinton machine severely damaged Democratic campaign doctrine in rural parts of the country, destroyed the Democratic bench, and abdicated crucial parts of the Democratic voting coalition to the GOP.  2016 should have been Warren or at the very least should have been contested.

I can't believe we are even talking about this, the Clintons need to go enjoy retirement. They've done enough.  

Edited November 16, 2022 by Bozo_Casanova

[WBT 21053]

Democratic civil war talk on the Republican civil war thread not going away

[YGIFS 19460]

Oh yeah, well let me tell you about the war inside the Libertarian Party man!  

[Bozo_Casanova 26976]

3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Oh yeah, well let me tell you about the war inside the Libertarian Party man!  

[The Dog 44900]

 

[YGIFS 19460]

^

That reads like that obituary that man wrote about his eccentric, but unloving mother a couple years back that made the rounds on the internet to great receipt.  

I can't to read the satirical ones write about Trump one day when he finally strokes out.  

[wildcat09 29619]

33 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Oh yeah, well let me tell you about the war inside the Libertarian Party man!  

That's over, the nazis won:

 

 

[atomheartbevo 90710]

5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

That's over, the nazis won:

I’m sure nobody here ever voted libertarian.

[YGIFS 19460]

Another reason I'm glad I left that party in 2018.  I like Jo Jorgensen but now they're just leaning into the "insanity brush" they get painted with by the other two parties.  

When we had Johnson/Weld here in Austin in the Autumn of 2016, I thought "No way the gameshow host is gonna win anyway, so let's do this!"  

I mean yeah, we ended up getting high and the guy holding was like "Let me tell you something man!  I'm from the future and if you let the gameshow dude win...a crackhead pillow salesman worth $100mm is gonna travel the countryside proving that this man wins not only once, but twice, and then runs a third time and your cousin is gonna join a cult called Q that says babies are harvested in a pizza place for their blood so the political elites can drink it to stay young and in power.  And oh yeah, he ends up selling classified intel on nuclear secrets to Saudi Arabia to pay for his plane engine."  

And then I said, "uncle Leo?"  

Edited November 16, 2022 by YGIFS

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Another reason I'm glad I left that party in 2018.  I like Jo Jorgensen but now they're just leaning into the "insanity brush" they get painted with by the other two parties.  

When we had Johnson/Weld here in Austin in the Autumn of 2016, I thought "No way the gameshow host is gonna win anyway, so let's do this!"  

Oh yeah, I was a 2016 Gary Johnson voter. But I made up for it by voting 8-9 times for Joe Biden in 2020.

[WhatTheBuck 28954]

36 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 

Just because she was a better choice than the worst option a major party ever offered to the American public doesn't make Hillary a good option. She's the most unpopular national Democrat in a generation for good reasons.   Not wanting to elect the spouse of a living former president is legitimate. She's a terrible candidate, she learned nothing from 2008 and ran the least effective presidential campaign messaging in living memory. The Clinton machine severely damaged Democratic campaign doctrine in rural parts of the country, destroyed the Democratic bench, and abdicated crucial parts of the Democratic voting coalition to the GOP.  2016 should have been Warren or at the very least should have been contested.

I can't believe we are even talking about this, the Clintons need to go enjoy retirement. They've done enough.  

We elected a second Bush and, until Trump came along, he was the worst President ever. And then a third Bush fucking ran. Fuck the Bush family. Lay off the Clintons, they’re far better than the Bushes. You can’t sit back and watch the disastrous presidency of George W. Bush (who foreshadowed Trump in a thousand ways) and then credibly say Hillary shouldn’t have run. Especially when so many admit that she’s qualified, capable, and would’ve been better than Trump.

[Bozo_Casanova 26976]

30 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Lay off the Clintons, they’re far better than the Bushes.

So what? That doesn't mean we have to like it. We don't own anything to these people. We do owe the country the best choice we have. In the 2016 presidential election that was Hillary Clinton, but it was still a historically lousy set of options. 
Clearing the field and then nominating Hillary Clinton in 2016 was a huge mistake. The Clintons helped create the conditions that led to this moment, and Democrats whose partisan identity prevents them from understanding why that is are part of the problem.  

Edited November 16, 2022 by Bozo_Casanova

[sidis 10020]

the republican primary civil war thread turning into a six year old democratic civil war thread was not on my bingo card.  can i get a different one?

[4th&Five 42034]

[The Dog 44900]

 

[YGIFS 19460]

An audit of the elections by states of their Senators or of the actual NRSC leadership vote?  Or of just the internal workings/finances of the NRSC?  I don't have the twitter.  

Wait, are they trying to pull some shit and say some of the money that flowed into certain Senate races was put there by people with sinister intentions?  Because (pretendcrackheadfromOfficeSpaceVoice)..."I do not know anything about no money laundering."  

[Bozo_Casanova 26976]

25 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

An audit of the elections by states of their Senators or of the actual NRSC leadership vote?  Or of just the internal workings/finances of the NRSC?  I don't have the twitter.  

Wait, are they trying to pull some shit and say some of the money that flowed into certain Senate races was put there by people with sinister intentions?  Because (pretendcrackheadfromOfficeSpaceVoice)..."I do not know anything about no money laundering."  

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

[YGIFS 19460]

English, motherfucker!  Do you speak it?  

[The Dog 44900]

 

[956 Worldwide 35618]

3 hours ago, YGIFS said:

Another reason I'm glad I left that party in 2018.  I like Jo Jorgensen but now they're just leaning into the "insanity brush" they get painted with by the other two parties.  

When we had Johnson/Weld here in Austin in the Autumn of 2016, I thought "No way the gameshow host is gonna win anyway, so let's do this!"  

I mean yeah, we ended up getting high and the guy holding was like "Let me tell you something man!  I'm from the future and if you let the gameshow dude win...a crackhead pillow salesman worth $100mm is gonna travel the countryside proving that this man wins not only once, but twice, and then runs a third time and your cousin is gonna join a cult called Q that says babies are harvested in a pizza place for their blood so the political elites can drink it to stay young and in power.  And oh yeah, he ends up selling classified intel on nuclear secrets to Saudi Arabia to pay for his plane engine."  

And then I said, "uncle Leo?"  

A lot of young, mostly intelligent men go through a bit of a dry spell and turn towards libertarianism as a solution. Getting laid is the real answer. 

[A-Tex Devil 2500]

I am pretty sure a lot of NSRC money went to Rick Scott and promoting his fucking fascist however many point plan as opposed to actual 2022 races.  
 

Who chooses head of NSRC because I was stunned he got it in his first term and presume it’s because he’s already wealthy and knows wealthy people.  I also presume Mitch will yank him from that position post haste.  

[Satchel 6983]

3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

We elected a second Bush and, until Trump came along, he was the worst President ever. And then a third Bush fucking ran. Fuck the Bush family. Lay off the Clintons, they’re far better than the Bushes. You can’t sit back and watch the disastrous presidency of George W. Bush (who foreshadowed Trump in a thousand ways) and then credibly say Hillary shouldn’t have run. Especially when so many admit that she’s qualified, capable, and would’ve been better than Trump.

From Politifact:

“Hillary Clinton’s favorability score is hot up to 65 percent in 2009 when she became secretary of state and stayed high for most of her tenure.”

It was only after the Republicans went on a sustained Benghazi campaign to take her out, did her numbers take a dive.

[crash_davis 23470]

Edited November 16, 2022 by crash_davis

[Upgrayedd 5917]

45 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

 

[Js1 87338]

21 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

I am pretty sure a lot of NSRC money went to Rick Scott and promoting his fucking fascist however many point plan as opposed to actual 2022 races.  
 

Who chooses head of NSRC because I was stunned he got it in his first term and presume it’s because he’s already wealthy and knows wealthy people.  I also presume Mitch will yank him from that position post haste.  

I think the caucus votes on it.  Steve Daines (Montana) is the new NRSC chair for 2024.  Very few times does someone do the job twice in a row.  It doesn't always go to someone in their first term, but always someone one or two cycles from their last election. 

Cornyn was the last Republican to head it two cycles in a row (2010 and 2010 cycles).  Schumer was the last Dem to hold it for two cycles (2006/2008). 

The audit should be because someone known for committing the largest Medicare fraud in US history was in charge of the NRSC and it looks like they will pick up 0 seats in a favorable environment for Republicans. 

[kevwun 16460]

It's pretty shocking that an organization headed by Rick Scott would commit financial shenanigans.  I haven't been this bumfuzzled since Cookie Monster ate all of the cookies he was supposed to be guarding.

Edited November 16, 2022 by kevwun

[TheStoicPaisano 9961]

Kassam is a Farage/Brexit lackey, not sure why he’s still in this country.

 

[The Dog 44900]

 

[WBT 21053]

[Dnaguy 12740]

5 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

[Gap03 3396]

Fuck these fucking charlatans - they need to be chained to Trump forever ...

Key Evangelical Figures Turn On Trump: 'He Used Us' | HuffPost Latest News

Spoiler

Evangelical figures who previously supported Donald Trump are backing off now that he’s announced his third bid for the presidency.

“Donald Trump can’t save America,” Mike Evans told The Washington Post. “He can’t even save himself.”

Evans was part of a group of evangelicals who met with Trump at the White House, and at one point gave him an award.

Now, he says he’s done with Trump.

“He used us to win the White House. We had to close our mouths and eyes when he said things that horrified us,” Evans told the newspaper. “I cannot do that anymore.”

Robert Jeffress, one of Trump’s evangelical advisers during the 2016 campaign and a longtime supporter, said he’s not ready to endorse him again.

“The Republican Party is headed toward a civil war that I have no desire or need to be part of,” Jeffress told Newsweek, adding that he would “happily” support Trump again if he wins the nomination.

Spoiler

That’s not a given, considering Trump’s plunging poll numbers among Republican voters. Jeffress also seemed to subtweet Trump on the day of his 2024 announcement by urging people to buy Mike Pence’s book:

Jeffress added on Twitter that he still considers Trump “a great friend and our greatest president since Reagan.”

Another onetime faith adviser to Trump, James Robison of Life Outreach International, said in a speech this week that Trump’s ego is getting in the way of the agenda.

“If Mr. Trump can’t stop his little petty issues, how does he expect people to stop major issues?” Robison said, according to The Washington Post.

He said he told Trump: “Sir, you act like a little elementary schoolchild and you shoot yourself in the foot every morning you get up and open your mouth! The more you keep your mouth closed, the more successful you’re gonna be!”

Robison did not say if he was planning to support Trump in 2024.

Another evangelical figure who previously endorsed Trump was even more blunt, with Washington Times columnist Everett Piper writing that Trump cost the GOP big in the midterms and could hurt them even more in two years.

“The take-home of this past week is simple: Donald Trump has to go,” Piper wrote. “If he‘s our nominee in 2024, we will get destroyed.”

 

[Biff Tannen 46268]

5 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

Fuck these fucking charlatans - they need to be chained to Trump forever ...

Key Evangelical Figures Turn On Trump: 'He Used Us' | HuffPost Latest News

  Reveal hidden contents

Evangelical figures who previously supported Donald Trump are backing off now that he’s announced his third bid for the presidency.

“Donald Trump can’t save America,” Mike Evans told The Washington Post. “He can’t even save himself.”

Evans was part of a group of evangelicals who met with Trump at the White House, and at one point gave him an award.

Now, he says he’s done with Trump.

“He used us to win the White House. We had to close our mouths and eyes when he said things that horrified us,” Evans told the newspaper. “I cannot do that anymore.”

Robert Jeffress, one of Trump’s evangelical advisers during the 2016 campaign and a longtime supporter, said he’s not ready to endorse him again.

“The Republican Party is headed toward a civil war that I have no desire or need to be part of,” Jeffress told Newsweek, adding that he would “happily” support Trump again if he wins the nomination.

  Reveal hidden contents

That’s not a given, considering Trump’s plunging poll numbers among Republican voters. Jeffress also seemed to subtweet Trump on the day of his 2024 announcement by urging people to buy Mike Pence’s book:

Jeffress added on Twitter that he still considers Trump “a great friend and our greatest president since Reagan.”

Another onetime faith adviser to Trump, James Robison of Life Outreach International, said in a speech this week that Trump’s ego is getting in the way of the agenda.

“If Mr. Trump can’t stop his little petty issues, how does he expect people to stop major issues?” Robison said, according to The Washington Post.

He said he told Trump: “Sir, you act like a little elementary schoolchild and you shoot yourself in the foot every morning you get up and open your mouth! The more you keep your mouth closed, the more successful you’re gonna be!”

Robison did not say if he was planning to support Trump in 2024.

Another evangelical figure who previously endorsed Trump was even more blunt, with Washington Times columnist Everett Piper writing that Trump cost the GOP big in the midterms and could hurt them even more in two years.

“The take-home of this past week is simple: Donald Trump has to go,” Piper wrote. “If he‘s our nominee in 2024, we will get destroyed.”

 

Uh, more like they used him and are now upset it didn't work.  Fuck em all and down with Christofascism.

[atomheartbevo 90710]

10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Uh, more like they used him and are now upset it didn't work.  Fuck em all and down with Christofascism.

Yep, he was useful when he won in. 2016, but losing the next three election cycles makes him useless to them, and they are angry that he’s costing them elections both local and statewide.

And I can’t wait for him to start attacking them.

Edited November 18, 2022 by atomheartbevo

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13645]

We're going to investigate the Mueller Investigation! And then we're going to investigate Hunter Biden! And then we're going to investigate Arizona's elections! And then we're going audit Ukraine aid! And then we're going to investigate Mitch McConnell! And once we find nothing, we're going to sell classified material we took from the White House! YEEEAAAHHHH!!!!!!!

[Beantown Express 2.0 6598]

Just now, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

We're going to investigate the Mueller Investigation! And then we're going to investigate Hunter Biden! And then we're going to investigate Arizona's elections! And then we're going audit Ukraine aid! And then we're going to investigate Mitch McConnell! And once we find nothing, we're going to sell classified material we took from the White House! YEEEAAAHHHH!!!!!!!

A majority of the people that voted for them would read what you just wrote and say, "It's about damn time". 

[Gap03 3396]

9 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

We're going to investigate the Mueller Investigation! And then we're going to investigate Hunter Biden! And then we're going to investigate Arizona's elections! And then we're going audit Ukraine aid! And then we're going to investigate Mitch McConnell! And once we find nothing, we're going to sell classified material we took from the White House! YEEEAAAHHHH!!!!!!!

[Beau Vine 55903]

1 hour ago, Gap03 said:

 

Robert Jeffress, one of Trump’s evangelical advisers during the 2016 campaign and a longtime supporter, said he’s not ready to endorse him again.

“The Republican Party is headed toward a civil war that I have no desire or need to be part of,” Jeffress told Newsweek, adding that he would “happily” support Trump again if he wins the nomination.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13645]

https://apnews.com/article/biden-wisconsin-donald-trump-994a5971637ccc708cd6760acb979f51

"MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The Republican chair of the Wisconsin Assembly elections committee who was backed by former President Donald Trump, embraced conspiracy theories about the 2020 election and wanted to decertify President Joe Biden’s victory, has been kicked out of the closed GOP caucus because her colleagues don’t trust her, according to a letter sent to the lawmaker."

[The Dog 44900]

 

[Gengs1 2583]

On 11/16/2022 at 12:11 PM, The Dog said:

 

They trusted the guy who stole bullion from Medicare with $, I am sure that will workout without any issues 

[elfenix 34811]

again, rick scott's name should always be followed by 'who presided over the largest medicare fraud in history'

[Satchel 6983]

4 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

That carnival barker makes me wanna hurl.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20980]

McConnell and Lindsey Graham going to war with one another pleases me greatly.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3741014-mcconnell-graham-tensions-boil-over/

 

[tx 3 putt 78858]

 

[Gatorubet 30831]

On 11/16/2022 at 2:13 PM, Upgrayedd said:

 

The conception of Mitch McConnell…