Air Show Plane Crash in Dallas

[SizzleChest 8284]

 

Edited November 12, 2022 by SizzleChest

[Bullneck 19264]

They need to stop flying these things.  

Today in Dallas:

Couple of years ago in Hartford:

Edited November 12, 2022 by Bullneck

[Bullneck 19264]

 

 

[Bullneck 19264]

 

 

[Dbeasy 15160]

Is that the B-17 featured on Better Call Saul? It was housed temporarily in Dallas. 
 

Nevermind. That was a B 29

Edited November 12, 2022 by Dbeasy

[SizzleChest 8284]

2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Is that the B-17 featured on Better Call Saul? It was housed temporarily in Dallas. 
 

Nevermind. That was a B 29

Fifi.

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

9 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

They need to stop flying these things.  

Today in Dallas:

Couple of years ago in Hartford:

Well those 2 are probably done flying 

[Leeroy Jenkins 2416]

Same B-17 that performed in an airshow here in my area where I was the Fire Incident Commander for the show. I am pretty sure the show airboss is a friend of mine. I haven’t confirmed that yet. I can’t imagine how he feels right now.

Horrible situation. I am just glad they went down on the field and didn’t get into the crowd.

Turning left and descending in a low wing plane like the P-63 leaves a pretty big blind spot.

[Leeroy Jenkins 2416]

That was also the home base for both aircraft so you know there were multiple families there who witnessed the midair.

[GreenspointTexas 9708]

Crazy because i believe that was the only flying kingcobra in the world. And now we have 10 airworthy b-17s now

 

how many dead? Fucking awful

 

there is a reason they didnt manufacture as many p-63s due to the blind spot issue

[Scheiss Meister 8416]

I believe that my son and I saw both planes at Wings Over Houston a couple of weeks ago.  Beautiful birds.  My heart breaks for the families.

[OU Sucks 8960]

This dumb bitch. Yeah, dying in a fireball might suck, but imagine having to watch it happen in front of you!!!1

 

Edited November 12, 2022 by OU Sucks

[Royalfan5 2355]

Roughly the same area my Great Uncle who flew Dauntlesses off the Enterprise was killed in a mid-air collision in 1995 doing radio checks in his personal plane when a new pilot hit him.

[Homercles 10206]

Holy hell that’s absolutely awful.  

[GreenspointTexas 9708]

Yeah these are from 2 weeks ago







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Now down to 3 airworthy p63s left in the world

[Newdoc 3457]

36 minutes ago, OU Sucks said:

but imagine having to watch it happen in front of you!!!1

She’s probably going to need life long therapy and sue the Air Show and the pilots’ families for getting exposed to this tragedy. 

[Scheiss Meister 8416]

Two weeks ago tomorrow.  I didn't get a good one of the B-17.

[shadow_operative2.0 16046]

Not the home base. 

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The Commemorative Air Force, which is dedicated to preserving World War II aircraft and hosts the air show, told the Dallas Morning News that both of the vintage military planes came from Houston. 

[Horn_Spanker 524]

That's how my uncle died in WWII.  His B-17 was hit by another in their raid on the rail-yard of Lille France.

[Macanudo 13025]

Ugh.   Spotted that B-17 over the house last Sunday as it flew home from Ellington.    Love those planes.

[Deej 77003]

It's like Jimbo Fisher meeting aggy football. 

[ConferenceRoom 6147]

Houston. Definitely one of my favorite parts of the show.

[jimmyjazz 46351]

Man, if the blind spot is that bad, I'm not sure they should be in the air.  It looked like he intentionally flew right into the bigger plane.  (Yes, I know he didn't.)

[Hank Scorpio 17731]

Leeeeeeeroyyyyyyy Jeeeeennnnkinss

[Brisketexan 105479]

Well….that was awful.
As many air shows as we went to back when the boy was younger, sure we saw that exact B-17. Sad as hell for the crew and the planes.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13530]

Tragedy. I don’t think I’ve been to an air show since I was a kid 40+ years ago. How well do they space these planes apart from each other? I realize their not flying blue angel wingtip to wingtip but are they several minutes spaced apart?  If not, seems like an unnecessary risk.

[Scheiss Meister 8416]

5 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Tragedy. I don’t think I’ve been to an air show since I was a kid 40+ years ago. How well do they space these planes apart from each other? I realize their not flying blue angel wingtip to wingtip but are they several minutes spaced apart?  If not, seems like an unnecessary risk.

In Houston a couple of weeks ago it looked like they had the big boys (B-17, C-47, etc.) at one altitude and the fighters and trainers about twice as high as the big boys.  A couple of times the Me-262 and P-51 buzzed down to the same altitude as the B-17, but with a lot of lateral separation.  Today's incident looks to me like the P-63 got out of position and low, was trying to get back to his place in the formation, and misjudged his location relative to the B-17.  But what do I know?  I'm just an interested observer with no flying experience.  The FAA report will tell the tale, no doubt.

[Constant 6759]

Had a hand in working the scene. Was right down the street and heard the explosion. 

[Constant 6759]

I never had it confirmed, but i had heard at least 8 dead. 6 crew in the big bomber, and two in the smaller fighter. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

42 minutes ago, Constant said:

I never had it confirmed, but i had heard at least 8 dead. 6 crew in the big bomber, and two in the smaller fighter. 

Doubt that was all crew in the big bomber — you don’t need gunners and a bombardier etc…Probably guests of the crew living out a dream. 

[Constant 6759]

1 minute ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Doubt that was all crew in the big bomber — you don’t need gunners and a bombardier etc…Probably guests of the crew living out a dream. 

Well, yeah. Should have just said 6 occupants. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

2 minutes ago, Constant said:

Well, yeah. Should have just said 6 occupants. 

I knew that’s what you meant but everyone is saying crew…Saw that on the news too. 
 

I might have boarded that bomber in a tarmac in NW Houston a decade or so back. My daughter and I and some of her cousins got to take a quick tour and I asked my self if I’d like to fly I’m her and decided no, no I wouldn’t. 
 

Seems like the older I get the more of a chickenshit I become about flying. Walking through it was sort of cool but it was cramped and hot as fuck that day. 

[Bevo 13609]

9 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

I knew that’s what you meant but everyone is saying crew…Saw that on the news too. 
 

I might have boarded that bomber in a tarmac in NW Houston a decade or so back. My daughter and I and some of her cousins got to take a quick tour and I asked my self if I’d like to fly I’m her and decided no, no I wouldn’t. 
 

Seems like the older I get the more of a chickenshit I become about flying. Walking through it was sort of cool but it was cramped and hot as fuck that day. 

Not just flying. I ran with the bulls in Pamplona multiple times. Went back with the wife 20 years later and had no interest. I decided the crowds were much larger now and it would be too dangerous because of the people (not the bulls).

[StruggleBus 3922]

2 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Leeeeeeeroyyyyyyy Jeeeeennnnkinss

[NeverMarryAStripper 21998]

1 hour ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

I knew that’s what you meant but everyone is saying crew…Saw that on the news too. 

Yeah, well here in Houston on the news they said two WWII fighter planes collided.  News anchors are even bigger morans than internet “journalists”

Edited November 13, 2022 by NeverMarryAStripper

[MNLonghornFUKM 8835]

Absolutely horrific videos of this tragedy. Lots of kids in attendance are going to be scarred for a long time. And that doesn’t hold a candle to what the families of the deceased are going through right now. Sad sad deal.

[Victor Lazlo 1780]

10 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Turning left and descending in a low wing plane like the P-63 leaves a pretty big blind spot
 

Yeah, the angle I saw, I bet the P-63 pilot never saw the B-17.

Incredibly bad luck or incredibly bad situational awareness.

Edited November 13, 2022 by Victor Lazlo

[Victor Lazlo 1780]

10 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Victor Lazlo

[Constant 6759]

Seeing now the Medical Examiner is stating 6 people died. 

[Vic Mackey 47189]

Another angle

 

[Chooky 13321]

19 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

That was also the home base for both aircraft so you know there were multiple families there who witnessed the midair.

Username checks out for what that smaller plane did. 

[Chooky 13321]

15 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Leeeeeeeroyyyyyyy Jeeeeennnnkinss

I'm late to the tasteless party. My bad. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

13 hours ago, Bevo said:

Not just flying. I ran with the bulls in Pamplona multiple times. Went back with the wife 20 years later and had no interest. I decided the crowds were much larger now and it would be too dangerous because of the people (not the bulls).

Hook ‘em emoji checks out

[Nivek 17013]

Turning left and descending in a low wing plane like the P-63 leaves a pretty big blind spot
 
Yeah, the angle I saw, I bet the P-63 pilot never saw the B-17.
Incredibly bad luck or incredibly bad situational awareness.

Maybe they shouldn’t do stupid shit at airshows where they turn and hope someone isn’t there.

Do they have radios? And maybe an air traffic controller orchestrating it?

[Lat22 4030]

That B17 was based in Galveston until recently. Saw it countless times while I was out fishing, etc. Just horrible. 

[Leeroy Jenkins 2416]

47 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Maybe they shouldn’t do stupid shit at airshows where they turn and hope someone isn’t there.

Do they have radios? And maybe an air traffic controller orchestrating it?

They are all on the same frequency and there is an airboss.  There were a lot of planes in the air when this occurred. I wonder if the P-63 was trying to join up on the B-17 and loss SA.  

[Constant 6759]

27 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

They are all on the same frequency and there is an airboss.  There were a lot of planes in the air when this occurred. I wonder if the P-63 was trying to join up on the B-17 and loss SA.  

What is SA for us non-aviation speaking idiots?

Edited November 13, 2022 by Constant

[Brisketexan 105479]

What is SA for us non-aviation speaking idiots?

Situational awareness.

[TwiceHorn 31646]

My cousin, more accurately my cousin's husband, flies on the AeroShell aerobatic team in an SNJ.

They weren't at this one, but when I heard on the radio, I got queasy.

[Chad Fuck 17829]

1 hour ago, Lat22 said:

That B17 was based in Galveston until recently. Saw it countless times while I was out fishing, etc. Just horrible. 

No, you are confusing B-17s.  The one you're thinking about was owned by Lone Star Flight Museum, and sold to Mid America Flight Museum in Mt. Pleasant.  It is known as "Thunderbird."

This one was based at Conroe owned by the Commemorative Air Force.  Known as "Texas Raiders."