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I had a friend that lived with 3 girls at Texas State for awhile. Initially he described it as awesome because he was having sex with all 3 of them and every girl wanted to keep it a secret. Eventuall

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Not very likely given how nimble and quick he may be.

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Also the guy at the vigil is way blurrier than the suspect.

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Guys they know who Jack is. From NYT:

The first call to the man, Jack DuCoeur, was at 2:26 a.m., and there were six more over the next 26 minutes, with the final one at 2:52, Ms. Goncalves said. She said Mr. DuCoeur, also a student at the university, missed them because he was sleeping, and that her sister’s phone account did not show any other calls.

Ms. Goncalves said Mr. DuCoeur, who did not respond to a request to discuss the case, had been a childhood friend of her sister’s. She said that they had been dating for years until recently, when they decided to take an amicable break. Ms. Goncalves said she and her family “stand behind Jack 100 percent and know he absolutely had nothing to do with this at all.”

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Guys they know who Jack is. From NYT:

The first call to the man, Jack DuCoeur, was at 2:26 a.m., and there were six more over the next 26 minutes, with the final one at 2:52, Ms. Goncalves said. She said Mr. DuCoeur, also a student at the university, missed them because he was sleeping, and that her sister’s phone account did not show any other calls.

Ms. Goncalves said Mr. DuCoeur, who did not respond to a request to discuss the case, had been a childhood friend of her sister’s. She said that they had been dating for years until recently, when they decided to take an amicable break. Ms. Goncalves said she and her family “stand behind Jack 100 percent and know he absolutely had nothing to do with this at all.”

Booty call?  Drunken "I want you back"?

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29 minutes ago, The Ace of Aces said:

Idaho is one of the leading states to host far right groups - it’s gone full crazy. I can totally see this being a hate crime. 

Pullman and Moscow are not right wing. Further, there has been a huge influx from Washington (Seattle) and California (LA and Bay) due to the crazy in those places.

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On 11/18/2022 at 11:32 PM, conVINCEd said:

I was pretty drunk the night my wife found a possum in the bathroom.  I woke the fuck up pretty quickly when I heard that scream.  I ain’t buying the roommates slept through it, and I’ve consumed more alcohol in my life than the average surly poster.  You can snap to attention pretty quickly when you hear an unusually loud sound.

Nope.

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Apparently a couple that live 3 miles from the crime scene say their dog was stabbed to death and skinned in the middle of the night a couple weeks ago. Also found several mutilated rabbits on their property.
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11450983/Woman-lives-three-miles-scene-Idaho-murders-says-mini-Australian-Shepherd-FILLETED.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton&fbclid=IwAR0ocmjGtoRyEMWPbYGTQ6q6ob56KcliWCplS4p7yz0kTxo0uVVsd_3LIYw

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I always like going to Websleuths to look at the dumbest of the dumb discuss cases like this.  First off, why are you talking to yourself Bree?  Second, even if you're incredibly stupid and don't know Quantico is in VA, there's a very sleuthy tool called Google.

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If anyone wants to follow a good source of information on Twitter I would go with Chanley (below) from CourtTv. She’s been on the ground and at the pressers and seems to be building trust with the victims’ family members. Lots of interesting comments under her tweets as well. Also there are some super creepy replies that should probably be checked out on some of her tweets:

 

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28 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Surly solve this yet or nah.

General consensus online is that it was a complete stranger to the victims. Watched the house from the woods, waited until they were all asleep, and entered through the back door or window and killed them all. Probably didn’t know that there were bedrooms or people on the bottom floor.

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Fits the pattern of a rando. Happened in Austin in the 1870’s, where (mostly) women were bludgeoned to death in their sleep.

https://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Assassin-Americas-Serial-Killer/dp/1250118492

Should be required reading in Austin. The murders were spread out from south congress to west campus and probably a few along the railways outside of Austin .

The police were completely befuddled. Scapegoats (and arrests) included husbands, boyfriends, minorities, mental patients, people that discovered the bodies, and drifters.

The murderer was never caught, nor identified, and this book didnt speculate too much. But seen where one suspect was identified for some other violent act, then killed, and then the murders stopped.

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On 11/23/2022 at 8:16 AM, Helobious said:

Watched the house from the woods

If the perp had stopped watching the house and just looked at the porn mags that were inevitably left in said woods, this whole situation could've been avoided. Ain't nobody got the urge to stab while in their refractory period.

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Many are looking at a random home invasion stabbing attack in 2021 in Oregon that left one dead. Also a break-in around 3am, victims stabbed as they slept, no suspect. Cops believe it’s unrelated

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/crime/2022/11/25/police-investigating-stabbing-murders-idaho-salem/69677291007/

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Many are looking at a random home invasion stabbing attack in 2021 in Oregon that left one dead. Also a break-in around 3am, victims stabbed as they slept, no suspect. Cops believe it’s unrelated
https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/crime/2022/11/25/police-investigating-stabbing-murders-idaho-salem/69677291007/

“Unrelated” like the dozen plus severed feet in a jogging shoe that have washed up on Northwest beaches over the last two decades. A phenomenon that has occurred nowhere else but was deemed by authorities as accidental deaths.

Northwest police are probably the serial killers.
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On 11/22/2022 at 7:30 PM, Nicole44 said:

If anyone wants to follow a good source of information on Twitter I would go with Chanley (below) from CourtTv. She’s been on the ground and at the pressers and seems to be building trust with the victims’ family members. Lots of interesting comments under her tweets as well. Also there are some super creepy replies that should probably be checked out on some of her tweets:

 

Not only is Chanley a good source of information, she's not difficult to look at

 

 

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Cops are now saying they erred (a couple of times but who is counting) on saying the attacks were targeted or a particular victim was targeted. The articles I’ve read over the past few hours have also said the BAU did develop a profile for the police of the killer(s) but police are declining to release that. 
 

If the perp(s) turn out to be unknown and outside of the circle of the victims I am at least grateful for the media coverage and such putting pressure on the investigation. Watching a lot of true crime (a favorite of mine is Joe Kenda—a former homicide detective who had over a 90% solve rate) stranger homicides are the most difficult to solve. In part, because homicide detectives find it difficult to pivot from acquaintances and those closer to the victim(s).
 

If I’m a family member of the victims, I’m frustrated beyond measure. The cops may not have experience with homicides but they should defer to the experts that have been brought in to assist. The ones who do have experience. Maybe I’m wrong and all of these comments they’ve been putting out there and then taking back are for a good reason? It doesn’t seem likely. Kenda would say, you have to go where the evidence takes you and not where your opinion does. You don’t follow your gut you just follow the evidence in a spider like web moving away from the crime. That’s why we have so many cold cases. Once they’ve interviewed the inner circle and the circle beyond that…they can’t pivot and don’t know where to go from there. 
 

I think it’s odd that they still won’t release who made the 911 call and why it was reported as an unconscious person. Stuff like that emboldens all these keyboard sleuths and creates distrust and uncontrollable rumors. I hope they can build an iron clad case…but it’s gonna be a bitch to prosecute with all the seeming missteps. 

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I think it’s odd that they still won’t release who made the 911 call and why it was reported as an unconscious person. Stuff like that emboldens all these keyboard sleuths and creates distrust and uncontrollable rumors. I hope they can build an iron clad case…but it’s gonna be a bitch to prosecute with all the seeming missteps. 

Apparently the killer locked the bedroom doors from the inside. So when everyone’s alarms were going off the next morning the surviving roommates didn’t know why they were getting no response. They called friends over first, but after no one could gain entry they called the cops. 

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Apparently the killer locked the bedroom doors from the inside. So when everyone’s alarms were going off the next morning the surviving roommates didn’t know why they were getting no response. They called friends over first, but after no one could gain entry they called the cops. 

 

That’s what I’ve read. The parents of the victims are seemingly leaking a lot of whatever they have learned. There is going to be very little authorities can keep quiet for a “confession” or to rule out a loony confessing using details only known to the perp(s). I don’t think (unless the 911 caller requested anonymity) keeping that information private helps the case. Nor does saying initially that this was targeted and now walking it back as a miscommunication (after it was said emphatically more than once.) 

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Apparently the killer locked the bedroom doors from the inside. So when everyone’s alarms were going off the next morning the surviving roommates didn’t know why they were getting no response. They called friends over first, but after no one could gain entry they called the cops. 

This appears to be a sadistic motherfucker who needs to be quietly executed when found and the only people told of the execution are the family members. 

Fuck our culture of glorifying killers. They should be immediately executed and the names should never be released.

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Not for nothing but a picture in the replies shows the murder house right out the window from the frat house. Very short distance. It would be highly unusual for the authorities to bring in the BAU for help with a profile and keep it quiet against BAU recommendations. So I’d guess the BAU recommended the profile not be released. I can’t imagine a “first time” murderer being able to just go about regular life and not draw any suspicion. A complete stranger could possibly buy a student or someone known to the circle you’d think would be devolving. 

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