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1 hour ago, LTbear said:

If someone has complete androgen insensitivity syndrome, is that person male or female? If they were an athlete, in which division should they compete?

He doesn't know what that is, and he's not going to google it. 

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On 9/17/2024 at 8:38 AM, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

is there more than 1 example of a dude sneaking into and dominating girls sports in the entire country of 330,000,000 people?  is there even 1? is this all just hypothetical?

 

 

Yes.  Currently San Jose State has a trans player.  A man is playing volleyball against women.  The team is 6-0.  Imagine the girl out there who was denied a scholarship to play the sport she grew up loving, only to be replaced by a man.  Doesn't get to play, doesn't get an education in exchange for her talent and hard work, etc.  That's why the cartoon I posted said "inclusion is exclusion".  When you include a man in women's sports, you exclude a woman. 

 

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18 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

“Only one person can say is that person is trans.”

-calls that person a man or trans half a dozen times in the next paragraph. 
 

god you’re a stupid loser. 

 

 

I never said Khelif was trans.  PenelopeWitherspoon implied he was trans.  Did you read my post?  Only the first two sentences of that post mention trans.  

 

 

18 hours ago, LTbear said:

If someone has complete androgen insensitivity syndrome, is that person male or female? If they were an athlete, in which division should they compete?

 

 

If they are XX presumably in the women's category.  Khelif does not have CAIS because his body produces Test.  

 

 

17 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Imagine calling a woman born with female reproductive equipment a man, and at the same time being the guy questioning the validity of trans people. But really though, listen to how dumb you sound. First, the article is intentionally inflammatory and deceitful, but I will bite anyway. So a woman has higher testosterone levels. What is your point? We gonna start testing all women for that now or those that just look masculine? What's the criteria? What if someone is .05 over this "standard"? How many female basketball players would get disqualified? 

 

Almost every at the Olympic level has some physical trait that a huge part of the reason they are as good as they are. How about we just let them play? 

 

 

Where did I question the validity of trans people?  I don't have a problem with how someone identifies.  Which article is inflammatory and deceitful?  Khelif produces more Test than is allowed for a woman to compete, that's why he undergoes treatment to lower it into the acceptable range (per his camp).  I don't know what the WNBA testing policies are.  Khelif tested XY in 2022 and 23.  That's why he's a man.  If the tests were faked I look forward to hearing about it.  

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

Yes.  Currently San Jose State has a trans player.  A man is playing volleyball against women.  The team is 6-0.  Imagine the girl out there who was denied a scholarship to play the sport she grew up loving, only to be replaced by a man.  Doesn't get to play, doesn't get an education in exchange for her talent and hard work, etc.  That's why the cartoon I posted said "inclusion is exclusion".  When you include a man in women's sports, you exclude a woman. 

 

Lol!! You were trying so hard to make a point. However, what are the odds of running into the one person on this board who's kid was recruited by none other than San Jose State and turned them down to go elsewhere? For none other than volleyball. Bwhahahaha!!! I guess my little girl won't be crying over the sport she doesn't get play because of a trans player right? Below are your receipts in case you need them. Lol. You should take this as a sign from God. The Lord truly works in mysterious ways. Sometimes, when you are a bigot, he puts the one person with receipts in your path to tell you to shut the fuck up.

Also, everyone produces testosterone. Higher than average levels doesn't make you a man. I am sure a lot of pro bball players produce higher levels of T. You are just being an asshole. You should repent.

 

 

 

Edited September 19 by Thatguy

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4 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

If they are XX presumably in the women's category.  Khelif does not have CAIS because his body produces Test.  

 

1) All women produce testosterone

2) CAIS patients produce a LOT of testosterone - as much as you or me 

3) CAIS patients have breasts and a fully functional  vulva

4) Their cells are genetically XY

5) See below (warning, noodz)

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4 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

Yes.  Currently San Jose State has a trans player.  A man is playing volleyball against women.  The team is 6-0.  Imagine the girl out there who was denied a scholarship to play the sport she grew up loving, only to be replaced by a man.  Doesn't get to play, doesn't get an education in exchange for her talent and hard work, etc.  That's why the cartoon I posted said "inclusion is exclusion".  When you include a man in women's sports, you exclude a woman. 

 

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I never said Khelif was trans.  PenelopeWitherspoon implied he was trans.  Did you read my post?  Only the first two sentences of that post mention trans.  

 

 

 

 

If they are XX presumably in the women's category.  Khelif does not have CAIS because his body produces Test.  

 

 

 

 

Where did I question the validity of trans people?  I don't have a problem with how someone identifies.  Which article is inflammatory and deceitful?  Khelif produces more Test than is allowed for a woman to compete, that's why he undergoes treatment to lower it into the acceptable range (per his camp).  I don't know what the WNBA testing policies are.  Khelif tested XY in 2022 and 23.  That's why he's a man.  If the tests were faked I look forward to hearing about it.  

 

 

 

 

Everyone sees what you’re doing. You think you’re being clever and smart, but everyone sees the first grade level logical fallacies you’re employing. You’re not smart. 
 

also why do you only consistently post between 12-4 am? Night watchman, or Russian?

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1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

Lol!! You were trying so hard to make a point. However, what are the odds of running into the one person on this board who's kid was recruited by none other than San Jose State and turned them down to go elsewhere? For none other than volleyball. Bwhahahaha!!! I guess my little girl won't be crying over the sport she doesn't get play because of a trans player right? Below are your receipts in case you need them. Lol. You should take this as a sign from God. The Lord truly works in mysterious ways. Sometimes, when you are a bigot, he puts the one person with receipts in your path to tell you to shut the fuck up.

Also, everyone produces testosterone. Higher than average levels doesn't make you a man. I am sure a lot of pro bball players produce higher levels of T. You are just being an asshole. You should repent.

 

 

 

 

 

Guy this post is incoherent.  What does your girl have to do with the girl that missed out?  Who are Todd Kress and Melissa, and what do they have to do with men in women's sport?

 

 

 

24 minutes ago, LTbear said:

1) All women produce testosterone

2) CAIS patients produce a LOT of testosterone - as much as you or me 

3) CAIS patients have breasts and a fully functional  vulva

4) Their cells are genetically XY

5) See below (warning, noodz)

 

 

Ok, thought I saw something that said they didn't produce test.  What's the point?  I don't know maybe cais people can be in women's sport. 

I would defer to this lady on that subject:     Doriane Lambelet Coleman  

 

 

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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Everyone sees what you’re doing. You think you’re being clever and smart, but everyone sees the first grade level logical fallacies you’re employing. You’re not smart. 

 

You asked for an example and you got one.  There's more just from the last few weeks if you want the links.  

 

 

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2 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

Guy this post is incoherent.  What does your girl have to do with the girl that missed out?  Who are Todd Kress and Melissa, and what do they have to do with men in women's sport?

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, thought I saw something that said they didn't produce test.  What's the point?  I don't know maybe cais people can be in women's sport. 

I would defer to this lady on that subject:     Doriane Lambelet Coleman  

 

 

I'm asking you because CAIS patients are a case of an XY individual being completely phenotypically female while being completely genetically male, including an internal set of undeveloped tested held within the pelvic cavity much like ovaries typically are. So, sounds like you say those people could compete in women's sports. I agree, but I find that answer surprising coming from you. 

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7 minutes ago, LTbear said:

I'm asking you because CAIS patients are a case of an XY individual being completely phenotypically female while being completely genetically male, including an internal set of undeveloped tested held within the pelvic cavity much like ovaries typically are. So, sounds like you say those people could compete in women's sports. I agree, but I find that answer surprising coming from you. 

 

 

If cais people are basically female with XY then I don't see why not.  I'm not familiar enough with it to have a concrete opinion.  I don't know about all the variables and what real experts think.  I defer to Doriane Lambelet Coleman.  

 

Edited September 19 by PRONG HORN

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Neg PRONG HORN and move on. He's a troll.

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1 hour ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

You asked for an example and you got one.  There's more just from the last few weeks if you want the links.  

 

 

I never once asked for an example of anything you illiterate piece of shit. 

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1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

also why do you only consistently post between 12-4 am? Night watchman, or Russian?

It's more like 12 - 7:30. @PRONG HORN, seriously, where do you live? What's the story with your odd posting hours?

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1 hour ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

Guy this post is incoherent.  What does your girl have to do with the girl that missed out?  Who are Todd Kress and Melissa, and what do they have to do with men in women's sport?

Don't be obtuse. You know what I was saying.

The trans player in question isn't leading her team in kills or hitting percentage. She hasn't won player of the week in her conference. She is just another solid player. No different than my daughter. There are over 5000 roster spots in division one volleyball. Trans people make up 1% of the population. Currently I think there are 3 D1 spots taken up by trans women. That is .05%. By your own comments above you consider women with high testosterone levels men right? Women's volleyball is an area where you are going to find a lot of women with higher levels of testosterone than normal. It just is. So you want trans women to not be able to compete. But then you also want women with higher levels of testosterone to not be able to compete either, ie Imane . Where does it stop Prong? What level is the correct level? 

The point is there is no correct answer. Science is showing us there are all kinds of variables when it comes to this and we should just embrace them all. Quit being an asshole. If my daughter doesn't care why should you?

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49 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Don't be obtuse. You know what I was saying.

The trans player in question isn't leading her team in kills or hitting percentage. She hasn't won player of the week in her conference. She is just another solid player. No different than my daughter. There are over 5000 roster spots in division one volleyball. Trans people make up 1% of the population. Currently I think there are 3 D1 spots taken up by trans women. That is .05%. By your own comments above you consider women with high testosterone levels men right? Women's volleyball is an area where you are going to find a lot of women with higher levels of testosterone than normal. It just is. So you want trans women to not be able to compete. But then you also want women with higher levels of testosterone to not be able to compete either, ie Imane . Where does it stop Prong? What level is the correct level? 

The point is there is no correct answer. Science is showing us there are all kinds of variables when it comes to this and we should just embrace them all. Quit being an asshole. If my daughter doesn't care why should you?

Look at this fucking unfair competitive advantage by San Jose St.!

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3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Look at this fucking unfair competitive advantage by San Jose St.!

Yep. It's like it doesn't matter. Weird. There are three D1 trans vball players and none of them play for a team on this list. If Prong's kid couldn't make one of the other 5000 roster spots she probably wasn't good enough anyway.

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On 9/18/2024 at 12:01 AM, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

The only one who can say if someone is trans is that person.  Imane and the boxer from Taiwan were disqualified form the 2023 Women's world championships because they did not pass the required sex tests.  They failed the tests because of the required XX to be able to compete.  Imane and the other gut are XY.  They're men. 

 

 

Thank you for drilling down to the real issues. You've got past the trivia of trans' suicide rate, limiting medical aid to them, and the particularly trivial notion of tolerance to focus on enormously important sports outcomes. If that issue can't be addressed and fast, then all out war on the band of dangerous transexuals using bathrooms their body's don't match to pee is the only answer.

It was the perversity of the right over bathrooms that doomed the Equal Rights Amendment. Oh noes! We'll all have to use the same bathrooms! 

The White Man makes another great call. 

If you're an American, you're a real piece of shit. Sadly, you have a lot of company.

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3 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

 

 

 

You're pretty good at tip toeing around the subject matter.  Does all that mean you don't believe in the sanctity of women's spaces?  Do you think trans women should be allowed to take the place of women on sports teams?  Or, there are more important issues, and we will get to the less important issues like a girl missing out on a scholarship when it's a more convenient time to deal with that?  

 

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25 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

You're pretty good at tip toeing around the subject matter. 

Does all that mean you don't believe in the sanctity of women's spaces? I'm not sure what you mean with your sanctimonious description of the holy sanctity of women's spaces. Privacy should be something all are entitled to. If you're shitting or pissing, you should have the choice of a stall. If you're combing your hair in front of a mirror, who cares if someone else does the same? Any person accessing any room and harming someone is in the wrong. I don't imagine women getting the vapors and fainting if a person of indeterminate genitalia (unseen) harmlessly going about their business.

Do you think trans women should be allowed to take the place of women on sports teams? It's a sticky issue. I don't know for sure. I'm not sure who should adjudicate that. It's a nothing issue to me in the face of a political party spreading their hate message to the marginalized with lies that they are dangerous or harmful in general. 

Or, there are more important issues, and we will get to the less important issues like a girl missing out on a scholarship when it's a more convenient time to deal with that?  C'mon, man. Of course the issues I list are more important and concern me because I have an indirect hand in harming these citizens if the government continues the persecution. The girl and the scholarship? See my top answer.

I find it interesting that the swine who give no shit about women in general other than forcing them to give birth is now all aflutter over the "sanctity of women's spaces." It's naked insulting patronizing from the would-be patriarchs. If you care about womens sanctity of space, encourage legislation to increase the capacity of women's restrooms so they don't have to stand in line outside of the actual room.

So, fuck off. I'll be giving you unannotated negs for your cynical use of distraction issues based in hate and hoping only for MAGA victory. If you start your little civil war, I hope the Army smashes you like the turd-tumbling beetles that you are.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Does all that mean you don't believe in the sanctity of women's spaces? I don't imagine women getting the vapors and fainting if a person of indeterminate genitalia (unseen) harmlessly going about their business.

 

 

So, that's a no?  I don't imagine it either, but if a woman doesn't want to share the bathroom with a man, that should be respected in my opinion.  It doesn't matter if she is left or right.  A woman's right to choose should extend to her spaces just as much as it should for her body.  

 

 

9 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Do you think trans women should be allowed to take the place of women on sports teams? It's a sticky issue. I don't know for sure. I'm not sure who should adjudicate that. It's a nothing issue to me in the face of a political party spreading their hate message to the marginalized with lies that they are dangerous or harmful in general. 

 

 

It's a nothing issue because some people say that trans are dangerous or harmful, and that it's a more pressing issue to address the hate?  I get that, but does that mean that your position is that we shouldn't address trans on women's teams until there are no longer any hateful opinions about trans people?  At this point I doubt if there will ever be a universal law governing the country that addresses fairness for all sports teams, spaces, locker rooms, rest rooms, etc. in every state.  I think that if the supreme court ever gets around to defining what a woman is, and they use biology to do so, that some people will just blame it on a "conservative", or Christian viewpoint or bias.  It might just be left up to individual states.  

 

 

9 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

The girl and the scholarship? See my top answer.

I find it interesting that the swine who give no shit about women in general other than forcing them to give birth is now all aflutter over the "sanctity of women's spaces."

So, fuck off. I'll be giving you unannotated negs for your cynical use of distraction issues based in hate and hoping only for MAGA victory.

 

 

There are many left leaning women out there who are for women's spaces belonging only to women.  It's not a right/left issue for all those affected.  It would be myopic to assume that only right leaners are concerned about women's spaces.  If you are having a hard time understanding what it means when men get women's scholarships, maybe this graph will help with that.  When you include males in women's sports, you exclude a female.  The possibilities for her success are limited or destroyed when she must compete for that scholarship with all the women who want to play, and also any trans women who want to play.  This fact is a "distraction issue" to you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

So, that's a no?  I don't imagine it either, but if a woman doesn't want to share the bathroom with a man, that should be respected in my opinion.  It doesn't matter if she is left or right.  A woman's right to choose should extend to her spaces just as much as it should for her body.  

 

 

 

 

It's a nothing issue because some people say that trans are dangerous or harmful, and that it's a more pressing issue to address the hate?  I get that, but does that mean that your position is that we shouldn't address trans on women's teams until there are no longer any hateful opinions about trans people?  At this point I doubt if there will ever be a universal law governing the country that addresses fairness for all sports teams, spaces, locker rooms, rest rooms, etc. in every state.  I think that if the supreme court ever gets around to defining what a woman is, and they use biology to do so, that some people will just blame it on a "conservative", or Christian viewpoint or bias.  It might just be left up to individual states.  

 

 

 

 

There are many left leaning women out there who are for women's spaces belonging only to women.  It's not a right/left issue for all those affected.  It would be myopic to assume that only right leaners are concerned about women's spaces.  If you are having a hard time understanding what it means when men get women's scholarships, maybe this graph will help with that.  When you include males in women's sports, you exclude a female.  The possibilities for her success are limited or destroyed when she must compete for that scholarship with all the women who want to play, and also any trans women who want to play.  This fact is a "distraction issue" to you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Imagine being this concerned over less than 1% of the population. Weird.

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May I modestly propose that those so concerned about trans issues start a trans thread for discussion. Or perhaps a thread in that other section of the site so that Prong can get what he so clearly needs.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

This thread is for cartoons. Not cartoonish posts.

Good day sir. I said GOOD DAY!

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Mea culpa.

 

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2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Imagine being this concerned over less than 1% of the population. Weird.

He isn't. But it sure makes from some great culture war division when his shift starts at 0730 in Moscow!

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On 9/19/2024 at 5:49 AM, SydneyCarton said:

Everyone sees what you’re doing. You think you’re being clever and smart, but everyone sees the first grade level logical fallacies you’re employing. You’re not smart. 
 

also why do you only consistently post between 12-4 am? Night watchman, or Russian?

That's when his mom is asleep.

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is there more than 1 example of a dude sneaking into and dominating girls sports in the entire country of 330,000,000 people?  is there even 1? is this all just hypothetical?

Can you imagine the dark, shameful corners of the internet one has to venture to in order to find that cartoon?

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