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Just now, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

That isn't women's rights, that is transphobia. You are a real piece of work.


 

Is it?  Standing up for women’s spaces is trans phobic?  
 

you know that meme or cartoon where the pilgrims come here and are talking to the natives on Thanksgiving, and the quote goes something like “this is ours now”? 
 

That’s what the trans movement has done to women’s spaces.  Too bad you don’t have the backbone to acknowledge that trans rights shouldn’t include taking over the spaces of an already marginalized group.  I hope you’re not a woman.  
 

 

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52 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:


 

Is it?  Standing up for women’s spaces is trans phobic?  
 

you know that meme or cartoon where the pilgrims come here and are talking to the natives on Thanksgiving, and the quote goes something like “this is ours now”? 
 

That’s what the trans movement has done to women’s spaces.  Too bad you don’t have the backbone to acknowledge that trans rights shouldn’t include taking over the spaces of an already marginalized group.  I hope you’re not a woman.  
 

 

I am a woman, and the trans movement has done nothing to women's spaces.  You can just fuck right off, troll.

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On 9/16/2024 at 7:56 AM, PRONG HORN said:


 

Is it?  Standing up for women’s spaces is trans phobic?  
 

you know that meme or cartoon where the pilgrims come here and are talking to the natives on Thanksgiving, and the quote goes something like “this is ours now”? 
 

That’s what the trans movement has done to women’s spaces.  Too bad you don’t have the backbone to acknowledge that trans rights shouldn’t include taking over the spaces of an already marginalized group.  I hope you’re not a woman.  
 

 

By "standing up for women's spaces" you mean bullying female boxers on the internet you think are trans but turn out not to be right?

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2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

By "standing up for women's spaces" you mean bullying female boxers on the internet you think are trans but turn out not to be right?

 

 

The only one who can say if someone is trans is that person.  Imane and the boxer from Taiwan were disqualified form the 2023 Women's world championships because they did not pass the required sex tests.  They failed the tests because of the required XX to be able to compete.  Imane and the other gut are XY.  They're men. 

 

 

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The only one who can say if someone is trans is that person.  Imane and the boxer from Taiwan were disqualified form the 2023 Women's world championships because they did not pass the required sex tests.  They failed the tests because of the required XX to be able to compete.  Imane and the other gut are XY.  They're men. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

The only one who can say if someone is trans is that person.  Imane and the boxer from Taiwan were disqualified form the 2023 Women's world championships because they did not pass the required sex tests.  They failed the tests because of the required XX to be able to compete.  Imane and the other gut are XY.  They're men. 

 

 

So let's look at Imane Khelif for a second. SHE boxed in the IBA successfully since 2018 right? SHE is good on testing from 2018 until 2023. Then after SHE beat previously undefeated Russian boxer Azalia Amineva, 3 days later all he sudden SHE fails her testing? The IBA is Russian led you know that right? 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023 all good, but you beat one of our boxers and now we find something to disqualify you and give the medal to our boxer. Tell me you CANNOT be this stupid right? You think Algeria is a country that is okay with Trans people? You think a country with this stance below is going to put a trans person in the Olympics?

 

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9 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

 

I guess you're taking the blue pill on this one?    

 

 

 

It's one thing to be a right winger. It's another thing to be an illogical dumb ass bro. You jump over all the logical conclusions to arrive at your dumb ass take. A country that would kill you for being trans is going to put forth a trans athlete IN THE FUCKING OLYMPICS? That alone should've given you pause. We pass manly looking women in our daily lives all the time. Other countries have them too.

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1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

You think Algeria is a country that is okay with Trans people? You think a country with this stance below is going to put a trans person in the Olympics?

 

1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

A country that would kill you for being trans is going to put forth a trans athlete IN THE FUCKING OLYMPICS? That alone should've given you pause. We pass manly looking women in our daily lives all the time. Other countries have them too.

 

 

The only one who can say if someone is trans is that person.  I never commented on this being a trans issue.  It could be DSD issues but who knows. Even if Khelif is actually a woman, there are plenty of males taking women's places in sport.  In the 2016 Olympics, male runners with DSD took all three medals for the Women's 800.  LINK 

You think the IBA would fake a test and not worry that subsequent tests by some other organization might reveal their deception?  Maybe they let it slide but didn't ban him until he became good enough to be an actual threat.  Who knows, but that would be unfair to all sides including Khelif.  Both boxers were given the chance to lodge an appeal with CAS (court of arbitration for sport) Khelif did so, but dropped the appeal which made the IBA's decision legally binding.  For some reason Khelif and Lin didn't want any test results released to the public.  They also aren't volunteering for tests to prove that they are women.  Also interesting that the IOC says it uses a person's passport to determine sex.  Khelif's birth certificate used to obtain a passport wasn't issued until 2018.  

They have known via testing that He was a biological man since spring 2022.  The IOC distanced itself from the IBA, but the World Boxing Organization, who hopes to take over before the 2028 games in LA, says it warned the IOC about males (Khelif) in boxing back in 2022.  Apparently he didn't pass the testing in May of 2022.  Interestingly, Khelif's own people confirmed that he was being treated by a doctor back home to lower his testosterone so that it falls into the acceptable range for that of a woman.  I'm not sure why he would need treatment to lower his T into the women's range.  Even still, it's not his T levels that disqualified him from competing as a woman.  

 

 

 

 

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The only one who can say if someone is trans is that person.  Imane and the boxer from Taiwan were disqualified form the 2023 Women's world championships because they did not pass the required sex tests.  They failed the tests because of the required XX to be able to compete.  Imane and the other gut are XY.  They're men. 

 

 

If someone has complete androgen insensitivity syndrome, is that person male or female? If they were an athlete, in which division should they compete?

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1 hour ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

 

The only one who can say if someone is trans is that person.  I never commented on this being a trans issue.  It could be DSD issues but who knows. Even if Khelif is actually a woman, there are plenty of males taking women's places in sport.  In the 2016 Olympics, male runners with DSD took all three medals for the Women's 800.  LINK 

You think the IBA would fake a test and not worry that subsequent tests by some other organization might reveal their deception?  Maybe they let it slide but didn't ban him until he became good enough to be an actual threat.  Who knows, but that would be unfair to all sides including Khelif.  Both boxers were given the chance to lodge an appeal with CAS (court of arbitration for sport) Khelif did so, but dropped the appeal which made the IBA's decision legally binding.  For some reason Khelif and Lin didn't want any test results released to the public.  They also aren't volunteering for tests to prove that they are women.  Also interesting that the IOC says it uses a person's passport to determine sex.  Khelif's birth certificate used to obtain a passport wasn't issued until 2018.  

They have known via testing that He was a biological man since spring 2022.  The IOC distanced itself from the IBA, but the World Boxing Organization, who hopes to take over before the 2028 games in LA, says it warned the IOC about males (Khelif) in boxing back in 2022.  Apparently he didn't pass the testing in May of 2022.  Interestingly, Khelif's own people confirmed that he was being treated by a doctor back home to lower his testosterone so that it falls into the acceptable range for that of a woman.  I'm not sure why he would need treatment to lower his T into the women's range.  Even still, it's not his T levels that disqualified him from competing as a woman.  

 

 

 

 

Imagine calling a woman born with female reproductive equipment a man, and at the same time being the guy questioning the validity of trans people. But really though, listen to how dumb you sound. First, the article is intentionally inflammatory and deceitful, but I will bite anyway. So a woman has higher testosterone levels. What is your point? We gonna start testing all women for that now or those that just look masculine? What's the criteria? What if someone is .05 over this "standard"? How many female basketball players would get disqualified? 

 

Almost every at the Olympic level has some physical trait that a huge part of the reason they are as good as they are. How about we just let them play? 

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