TCU vs Kansas State - Big 12 Championship Game Thread

[bullet 1,596]

8 hours ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

Yeah, the conference never gets embarrassed when OU makes the playoff.

The conference only gets embarrassed when OU or Lincoln Riley are in big games.

[EastTexan 662]

12 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Yeah let's not act like that was really a neutral site game.

Jerry World can be pretty damned neutral.

[DigDug 1,667]

Legit question, if frogs don’t brain fart and sneak it in or muscle it in, and Duggan is carried off as the working man’s hero, does he win the heisman?

[Hozz 1,017]

10 minutes ago, DigDug said:

Legit question, if frogs don’t brain fart and sneak it in or muscle it in, and Duggan is carried off as the working man’s hero, does he win the heisman?

One of the problems with Heisman voting is that you can turn in your ballot before the last regular season/conference championship games have been played.  I think this year they were handed out Nov 28 and you have until Dec 6 to turn them in.  Fax them in?  Not sure how it works exactly, but I know they get them for a week+.

So Caleb Williams had likely gotten a ton of votes before Utah beat his ass a second time and before he displayed a strong case of loser's limp on prime time TV.  I am sure there is a non-significant number of people who had Williams-Duggan 1-2 who would flip that after watching their last games. They should have an electronic vote system that is only open from midnight Sunday to midnight Monday.  

[cabowabo 4,484]

I’m glad TCU lost, but it’s retarded that they even had to play the game after having beat everyone in the conference already. Fuck the Big 12. 

[redswingline 1,057]

9 hours ago, bullet said:

How about Austin Peay, Utah St. and UL Monroe?  That's Alabama's non-"SEC" schedule.

The most common argument I've seen from the past 15-20 years justifying the joke schedule is that the SEC is "so tough", they don't need to schedule teams with a pulse for OOC matchups.

You know, it's just a gauntlet every week when you have to line up and play vanderbilt, kentucky, miss st, ole miss, auburn, missouri, tennessee and any of the other teams that are historically quite shitty, or at best average, in a given season.

Edited December 4, 2022 by redswingline

[USNALonghorn 5,078]

OnE tRuE cHaMpIoN!!!1!

[SameSame 1,704]

50 minutes ago, DigDug said:

Legit question, if frogs don’t brain fart and sneak it in or muscle it in, and Duggan is carried off as the working man’s hero, does he win the heisman?

I’d say yes.  Taking in what Hozz said and assuming you can flip your vote until the 6th.

[C-Man 27,207]

I’m glad TCU lost, but it’s retarded that they even had to play the game after having beat everyone in the conference already. Fuck the Big 12. 

Been screaming this since it was instituted as a knee jerk reaction to 2014.

[taybo20 2,825]

https://sports.sites.yale.edu/success-short-yardage-play-types-fourth-down
 

reading material for sonny

[Huckleberry 32,851]

4 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

https://sports.sites.yale.edu/success-short-yardage-play-types-fourth-down
 

reading material for sonny

Yep and this includes several seasons before it was legal for the offense to push the ballcarrier.

[Vic Mackey 47,017]

Stick to the cholas there is pretty close to a 0% chance that the CFP selection committee doesn't fuck them over on behalf of the networks who hate them.

Awesome call. What other predictions do you got?

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1,291]

1 hour ago, cabowabo said:

I’m glad TCU lost, but it’s retarded that they even had to play the game after having beat everyone in the conference already. Fuck the Big 12. 

TCU asked for this game.

[MyWifeIsBi.....Polar 6]

21 hours ago, redswingline said:

if you cant win your conference, you shouldn't be in the 4 team playoff

So Utah and Clemson should be in over TCU and Ohio State? Makes sense. 

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1,291]

1 minute ago, MyWifeIsBi.....Polar said:

So Utah and Clemson should be in over TCU and Ohio State? Makes sense. 

I would honestly like their chances of winning a little bit more. Backing into a championship with a loss never goes well. I guess the playoffs could be different.

[redswingline 1,057]

44 minutes ago, MyWifeIsBi.....Polar said:

So Utah and Clemson should be in over TCU and Ohio State? Makes sense. 

You are right. Excluding conference champs makes sense.

I think the AFC and NFC winners shouldn't be invited to the super bowl because they aren't as good as some of the other teams in their conference.

Edited December 4, 2022 by redswingline

[mdleast 8,289]

[WhatTheBuck 28,776]

8 hours ago, taybo20 said:

https://sports.sites.yale.edu/success-short-yardage-play-types-fourth-down
 

reading material for sonny

The QB sneak is probably even more effective now that the “Bush push” is legal; your teammates can help push you over the line to gain. Sometimes teams (mine included) have been known to run out of the shotgun/pistol exclusively and never line up the QB under center. It was so frustrating watching Duggan line up under center, take the snap, turn and run backwards to hand it off, and seeing the defense get penetration before the back even got there. It seemed like it was taking an eternity to run the play. Speaking of Bush, I think it was Reggie who was saying from the set in Indianapolis that they were all yelling at the tv to just sneak it.

[Vertigo 20,276]

32 minutes ago, mdleast said:

 

Until you get your ass run out of the stadium you fucking spares.

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1,291]

1 hour ago, Vertigo said:

Until you get your ass run out of the stadium you fucking spares.

K-State is going to win this game. Bryce Young probably sits it out.

[bullet 1,596]

3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

The QB sneak is probably even more effective now that the “Bush push” is legal; your teammates can help push you over the line to gain. Sometimes teams (mine included) have been known to run out of the shotgun/pistol exclusively and never line up the QB under center. It was so frustrating watching Duggan line up under center, take the snap, turn and run backwards to hand it off, and seeing the defense get penetration before the back even got there. It seemed like it was taking an eternity to run the play. Speaking of Bush, I think it was Reggie who was saying from the set in Indianapolis that they were all yelling at the tv to just sneak it.

Actually saw a penalty on that the other day.  They pulled the runner instead of pushing, which is still a penalty.