Formula 1 2023

[Fastbreak 3957]

Look at this battle with Perez!

-never shows Perez.

[Fastbreak 3957]

The director of this race was beyond bad.

Showing the famous Spanish personality Shakira at the end was perfect (well, she speaks Spanish at least).

[ConferenceRoom 6129]

Track changes made Spain in June slightly less snoozy than Spain in May. 

[elfenix 34171]

It would have been nice to see the places max broke track limits.

One was showed on the highlight package behind him during the interview.

Kinda wish the whole highlight package went passive aggressive with just the start and then the 4 offs

[elfenix 34171]

"red bull could put no side pods on their car and still be quick"

george picking up what max put down

[Mittens 8151]

Lando looking very Lancey today.

[hookem48 4631]

1 hour ago, Fastbreak said:

I don’t think f1 is doing a lot right now to engage the average American fan. It’s been like Bama vs Rice for most of the season.

hell that was exciting, just edge of your seat racing. I did miss a little while I was switching over to soccer.

[utee94 15745]

There was some interesting racing from #2 on.  

Maybe Max will retire soon.

[Buzzrock 14870]

It’s like college football now. The top is boring but if you love the sport there is some great stuff down the ranks.

[ChickenSandwich 9798]

At the very least this race had some different strategies, so that was something. 
 

Using the tires as the only real strategy variable doesn’t work when their is no real variation between tires. I’ like to see C1,C3 C5 or make them run all compounds in the races etc. 

[Hawndoh 2382]

Fairly boring race.

[kevwun 15624]

Today there wasn't much difference between the softs and mediums in terms of life.  The hards didn't last very well at least for Red Bull.

[VABuckeye 2472]

Russell has become a total bitch.

[Chewbacca 7729]

Ocon defense was fine

And by fine you mean not fine, right? He might be the biggest asshole on the grid and that shit was dangerous.

[Chewbacca 7729]

Who gives a fuck about the average American?

People who like money do.

[Chewbacca 7729]

Russell has become a total bitch.

He didn't seem bad today, but otherwise I agree. Was waiting for him to ask for team orders so he could go after Max.

[Fastbreak 3957]

There was some interesting racing from #2 on.  
Maybe Max will retire soon.

Was there? There were very few battles and overtakes. Russell and Checo moved through the field, besides that, there wasn’t much.

[ConferenceRoom 6129]

36 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

10 hours ago, ConferenceRoom said:

Who gives a fuck about the average American?

People who like money do.

The Americans that count have been there, and aren’t leaving. FOM needs to worry about Europe, not dumbing down the sport for the mouth breathers. 

[utee94 15745]

1 hour ago, ConferenceRoom said:

The Americans that count have been there, and aren’t leaving. FOM needs to worry about Europe, not dumbing down the sport for the mouth breathers. 

I always find it amusing when people think that European motorsport fans are somehow more sophisticated than American motorsport fans.

We're talking about cars, not polo.  You see all those assholes that set off orange flares when Max passes their seats?  Yeah, that's your European motorsport fan.

[Mittens 8151]

2 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Was there? 

There was an epic battle for 14th maybe?  You know, the one between the German, the Chinaman....the man from Japan and the man from Finland. A very cosmopolitan race!

Curious how much heat Brundle gets for that gaff.

[wood 11121]

14 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

F1 has been making a huge marketing push in the US

Sure, but I, for one, don't really want F1 popularity to take off in the U.S. and for everyone to be talking about it. We have enough morons talking nonsense non-stop about American sports as it is. ymmv

[wood 11121]

5 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

14 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Ocon defense was fine

And by fine you mean not fine, right? He might be the biggest asshole on the grid and that shit was dangerous.

Yeah he's a POS and shoulda been penailzed for that attempted murder.

[wood 11121]

[Chewbacca 7729]

Sure, but I, for one, don't really want F1 popularity to take off in the U.S. and for everyone to be talking about it. We have enough morons talking nonsense non-stop about American sports as it is. ymmv

Greg Maffei and Liberty Media do, and they own F1.

[Fastbreak 3957]

Liberty pretty much ruined the Braves TV market/contract, so maybe they just don't know shit about media.

[ConferenceRoom 6129]

9 hours ago, utee94 said:

I always find it amusing when people think that European motorsport fans are somehow more sophisticated than American motorsport fans.

We're talking about cars, not polo.  You see all those assholes that set off orange flares when Max passes their seats?  Yeah, that's your European motorsport fan.

Europe is the base of Formula 1. If you keep marginalizing their fans with crazy TV contracts and sending all their grands prix to the Middle East, you're going to have a bad time. America is a luxury for the people in charge of Formula 1, it always has been. Besides you're talking about the Dutch, noted assholes. 

[utee94 15745]

1 hour ago, ConferenceRoom said:

Europe is the base of Formula 1. If you keep marginalizing their fans with crazy TV contracts and sending all their grands prix to the Middle East, you're going to have a bad time. America is a luxury for the people in charge of Formula 1, it always has been. Besides you're talking about the Dutch, noted assholes. 

I'm not disputing that Europe is the most important audience for Formula1. 

And the Dutch are among the nicest people I've ever met when spending time in Europe.  But lowbrow asshole motorsport fans are the same, the world around.

[Guest]

I'm not so sure that Max doesn't let Alonso or Checo pass him just to have something to do in the race. 

From Reddit. They tell Max he can't get fastest lap and to just bring it home. Max gets fastest lap.

Lap 60:

Max: What's the fastest lap?

GP: It's a 16.6. It was a first lap on a new soft for Checo with DRS. So I wouldn't worry about it Max

Max: What's my fastest lap?

GP: Yours is a 17.3. Like I said, you've been given a black&white flag so we cannot afford anything

Lap 62:

GP: Mode 7, please Max. Mode 7. There's now five laps remaining. Okay, now can you bring it home within the white lines? Thank you

Max: Yeah yeah

 

Q: (Ben Hunt – The Sun) For Max, just bringing it back to you. You were obviously told to keep within the white lines, risking a penalty. You kind of ignored that and just pushed ahead and got your fastest lap and the bonus point. Do they tell you off - the team - after doing that? Or do they give you a little bit of freedom to get away with things like that?

Max: Well, I kept it within the white lines, I just went a bit faster on the lap. So I didn't do anything wrong. They don't know how much pace I have in the car, right, when they tell me this is the fastest lap, don't bother, but I knew that I could do it. So yeah, I just had to keep it within the white lines but this is something I think we can laugh about already. I was laughing about it with Helmut after the race so I'm pretty sure that they're quite happy.

 

[ConferenceRoom 6129]

Seb's radio battles with Rocky, waged over latter race stage fast laps, were legendary. Red Bull golden boys and Newey-designed cars, name a better duo. 

Edited June 5, 2023 by ConferenceRoom

[williemackgarza 1826]

Max seems like a nerdy cunt. Crazy great driver. But he seems codled and nerdy like most of these F1 drivers. Im a newb F1 fan and got hooked with the Netflix show. So im an idiot. Grew up a nascar Dale earnhardt fan. Been to the Mexican GP and plan to again this year. I do like Checo cause hes mexican and alonzo cause hes a wiley old veteran that just loves racing and he wont take any shit if he doesnt want to. I thought there was pretty good action on the track this weekend compared to last weeks snoozefest. Russell and sainz seem like crying whiney little wankers.

[VABuckeye 2472]

Sainz needs to listen to his race engineer.  Early on he was told to push the pace more whewn he had a chance to get a good advantage over the Mercs.  He basically told the engineer to fuck off that he knew what he was doing with the pace.  It didn't work out so well at the end.

[kevwun 15624]

I don't think it would have mattered.  Mercedes was faster.  I think they're gonna be the 2nd fastest car now on most tracks.

[dieucla98 2934]

17 hours ago, VABuckeye said:

Russell has become a total bitch.

Russell's radio was one of the more entertaining parts of that GP.

"Rain turn 5." ... "Nevermind, I'm just sweating"

"Just solid?"

Apart from that, it felt pretty clear early on that Merc had a significantly more racey car than anyone else not named Red Bull and would get up to 2 and 3. The only intrigue was if Checo had enough time to catch them.

 

[wood 11121]

8 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

9 hours ago, wood said:

Sure, but I, for one, don't really want F1 popularity to take off in the U.S. and for everyone to be talking about it. We have enough morons talking nonsense non-stop about American sports as it is. ymmv

Greg Maffei and Liberty Media do, and they own F1.

I get that they care. I just don't see much benefit from that increase in popularity from a fan perspective. What's good for Liberty Media is not necessarily good for the fans ... and from what I've seen so far, it's probably bad for the fans. 

For years I've seen some fans pulling for F1 to be more popular in the U.S., but I never really understood why, or what they think they'll get from that. (BTW, Maffei doesn't own F1 beyond any stake he might have in LM. He works for LM and and Stephen Ross).

[Guest]

10 hours ago, wood said:

Sure, but I, for one, don't really want F1 popularity to take off in the U.S. and for everyone to be talking about it. We have enough morons talking nonsense non-stop about American sports as it is. ymmv

No doubt. I've seen what we do to sports here. It's how we got 4.5 hour college football games and conferences that have 16 teams, of which 12 we have practically no history with. 

[utee94 15745]

36 minutes ago, wood said:

I get that they care. I just don't see much benefit from that increase in popularity from a fan perspective. What's good for Liberty Media is not necessarily good for the fans ... and from what I've seen so far, it's probably bad for the fans. 

For years I've seen some fans pulling for F1 to be more popular in the U.S., but I never really understood why, or what they think they'll get from that. (BTW, Maffei doesn't own F1 beyond any stake he might have in LM. He works for LM and and Stephen Ross).

I personally only want F1 to be popular enough in the states to maintain the race that occurs in my backyard at COTA.  Otherwise I don't care at all whether or not Americans are into the sport.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, utee94 said:

I personally only want F1 to be popular enough in the states to maintain the race that occurs in my backyard at COTA.  Otherwise I don't care at all whether or not Americans are into the sport.

But before we get to that, let's turn to Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless to debate who is the better driver -- Max Verstappen or Lewis Hamilton. Gentlemen, we have 18 hours of airtime to fill... go.

 

[Native Horn 3487]

2 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

But before we get to that, let's turn to Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless to debate who is the better driver -- Max Verstappen or Lewis Hamilton. Gentlemen, we have 18 hours of airtime to fill... go.

 

kill me now

[aggie08 21424]

6 hours ago, VABuckeye said:

Sainz needs to listen to his race engineer. 

But what if his race engineer works for Ferrari?

[wood 11121]

15 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Liberty pretty much ruined the Braves TV market/contract, so maybe they just don't know shit about media.

Yep, and it's obvious they know little to nothing about racing. It's apparent in the constant idiotic graphics they use to dumb down the broadcasts every race, among other things.

[ConferenceRoom 6129]

I knew we were in trouble when they felt the need to add tones over the lights coming on. Originally, if I’m remembering correctly, they had a longer tone for when the lights went out ala Mario Kart, and they were much louder. Ugh. 

[utee94 15745]

Pole Position always had tones along with the lights, so I'm cool with it.

 

 

[PittsburghTiger 6137]

On 5/28/2023 at 4:38 PM, The_Great_Hornsby said:

The lack of passing in this race is definitely a problem. But the chaos of the rain has made me interested. 

Seeing the cars up close it amazing how big they have gotten. There is no way they can “race” on this circuit. Too damned big.

 

 

[faps 806]

All racecars are getting bigger, just how it is.

 

[52-80 19081]

birthday gift

 

[PittsburghTiger 6137]

We just got back to Germany from the beach, last night. I fly home Sunday. I have some pictures and videos also. I will put up some stuff when I get home, hopefully someone can allow me to upload a couple videos, just for the sound. They are not very long videos.

The sound at Monaco was amazing. I told Dirk if we go again that we are Big Pimpin’ and taking a helicopter from Nice. When we got back to the beach all the men in our group treated us like rock stars since we were at the race. It was funny.

 

[ChickenSandwich 9798]

[utee94 15745]

Saw this from an F1 group on Facebook.

 

 

[elfenix 34171]

ESPN going to have Danny Ric and Will Arnett run alternate commentary in Canada, Austin, and Vegas

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-daniel-ricciardo-espn-canadian-gp/10480415/



(Pic with Heidi Berger b/c she seems nice)

[Burt Macklin 18996]

Some say Charles was in Ferrari’s garage at Le Mans because he loves the Scuderia. I choose to believe he was there scouting a new pit wall team.