Huge Piece of Shit and alleged Woman Abuser Chris Beard has been hired at Mississippi

[txhorns 2421]

1 minute ago, slorch said:

Just playing along, but would that next contract a) be lower b) be identical c) be higher?

Higher.  He’s only gotten better at defense since we originally hired him.

[Doc Daneeka 6793]

7 minutes ago, txhorns said:

Higher.  He’s only gotten better at defense since we originally hired him.

There is that, but printing out the exact same document to sign again has a certain flair. 

[Ghost of Shag 2730]

How long before we have an idea of what the DA is going to do?

[Texas Wahoo 3631]

6 hours ago, Doc Daneeka said:

Criminal charge involving a felony. 

To be fair, it says “any conduct resulting in a criminal charge…involving a felony.” It’s not necessarily a great argument, but depending on what he actually did or did not do, it could be argued that he did not do the conduct that resulted in the charge. In this case, if it’s only a felony because of the strangulation charge and he did not do that conduct, did he really do conduct resulting in a felony charge?  To take a more extreme case, if someone was arrested and charged on mistaken identity, that person would clearly have been charged with the felony, but did they really do any conduct resulting in a felony charge?

The contract is written such that the conduct is what is important, and not just the charge. I am not sure if that was intended or just lazily drafted. 

[Lhorn 5098]

3 hours ago, DaysOff said:

Maybe fire him. Then, do a coaching search that ends with hiring Beard, assuming he isn't charged. Now, both sides are happy. Profit.

Negotiate a cheaper contract because he’s potentially damaged good.  I like it. 

[Lhorn 5098]

1 hour ago, CycleTex87 said:

Y’all don’t need to convince me one way or another, you need to convince my wife. 

Tell her we said it’s all good.  

[conVINCEd 21477]

1 hour ago, CycleTex87 said:

Y’all don’t need to convince me one way or another, you need to convince my wife. 

Are my services needed here?

[Doc Daneeka 6793]

4 minutes ago, Texas Wahoo said:

To be fair, it says “any conduct resulting in a criminal charge…involving a felony.” It’s not necessarily a great argument, but depending on what he actually did or did not do, it could be argued that he did not do the conduct that resulted in the charge. In this case, if it’s only a felony because of the strangulation charge and he did not do that conduct, did he really do conduct resulting in a felony charge?  To take a more extreme case, if someone was arrested and charged on mistaken identity, that person would clearly have been charged with the felony, but did they really do any conduct resulting in a felony charge?

The contract is written such that the conduct is what is important, and not just the charge. I am not sure if that was intended or just lazily drafted. 

It’s certainly an inventive take. He did engage in conduct, unlike the mistaken identity guy. His conduct did result in a felony charge, even if every element (theoretically) can’t be proven. Even, hypothetically, an acquittal doesn’t mean he didn’t engage in the conduct, though. I suppose if both he and Trew both said the strangling didn’t happen maybe his actual conduct is, at most, a misdemeanor. It’s interesting to think about.

I think it’s lazily drafted in that  “any conduct” is meant fit (a) and not (b) — how do you meaningfully get charged with no conduct — but the lazy drafting would be construed against Texas.

Nice thought.  

[shakahorn 1660]

Are my services needed here?

Don’t you need to see pics of the wife first?

[conVINCEd 21477]

Just now, shakahorn said:

Don’t you need to see pics of the wife first?

[chemHORN 1303]

If we fire him Aggy will hire him in under 30 secs.  We aren't firing him if we can avoid it.  

[Satchel 6983]

When it comes to smarmy big time college athletics, I’m as cynical as they come. I really don’t think it matters what the DA does. I believe the brain trusts decided early on that there was too much emotional and dollar capital invested in Beard to lose what promises to be Texas’ best chance at basketball success long term. Since there is a will, Texas will find a way. 

[UTEE97 3941]

38 minutes ago, Satchel said:

When it comes to smarmy big time college athletics, I’m as cynical as they come. I really don’t think it matters what the DA does. I believe the brain trusts decided early on that there was too much emotional and dollar capital invested in Beard to lose what promises to be Texas’ best chance at basketball success long term. Since there is a will, Texas will find a way. 

If the felony charge sticks, there is no way Texas will keep Beard no matter the will. 

[Satchel 6983]

29 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

If the felony charge sticks, there is no way Texas will keep Beard no matter the will. 

About the felony charge sticking…I’m dubious. This is big time college athletics.

[shadow_operative 15932]

2 hours ago, Ghost of Shag said:

How long before we have an idea of what the DA is going to do?

i can't imagine it's going to be too much longer. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

15 minutes ago, Satchel said:

About the felony charge sticking…I’m dubious. This is big time college athletics.

also the reported facts all seem to point towards his fiancée being the aggressor and beard merely defending himself. plus he has zero history of domestic violence.

[harpercollins 394]

Higher.  He’s only gotten better at defense since we originally hired him.

Well done.

[Hermanator 7683]

18 hours ago, freyguy said:

If they fire him, the university gets to move on. If they don't fire him, this will keep coming up over and over until he eventually departs due to some other reason.

 

I've made up my mind on the SOB. The dude smacked around his lady. Regardless of whether she "started it" or not, you just don't do that. Good grief. He and his fiancée need to go somewhere else and beat each other up to their hearts' content...like they've probably been doing for years already. But they should really split up, for both their benefits. 

 

But again, it's just basketball. Which is 3rd fiddle to football and baseball. So who the hell cares.

 

 

Fuck you and fuck baseball. 

If you don't care about the sport then stay the fuck out of the thread. Go find the last time I posted anything about Texas baseball. You can't because I don't give a shit about it so I leave it to people who do. 

And it's Football, Men's Basketball, Volleyball, and then maybe baseball.

[Guest]

12 hours ago, Ghost of Shag said:

How long before we have an idea of what the DA is going to do?

Depends on what kind of NIL agreement he can get.

[Hermanator 7683]

11 hours ago, Satchel said:

When it comes to smarmy big time college athletics, I’m as cynical as they come. I really don’t think it matters what the DA does. I believe the brain trusts decided early on that there was too much emotional and dollar capital invested in Beard to lose what promises to be Texas’ best chance at basketball success long term. Since there is a will, Texas will find a way. 

That's not being cynical that's being crazy. 

If the DA charges him with a felony and he's going to trial they're not keeping him. 

If video comes out supporting that he struck her or choked her they aren't keeping him. 

If it remains as is where the alleged victim publicly defended him and stated his actions weren't what he's charges with and the DA refuses to bring the case for indictment due to lack of evidence then outside of any other evidence Beard would definitely bring a lawsuit if terminated saying the University broke the contact as he was not formally charged by the DA and the alleged victim recanted her accusation. They wouldn't want to terminate him under those circumstances. 

[TexArcher 39077]

21 hours ago, JFKFC said:

I said Amen to his knock on people blaming cancel culture. Beard should have been fired the day he was charged with Felony Strangulation. Every fucktard on this board who says we have to investigate and take time and get all the "facts" likely had to go to Tech. No one else could be so stupid. 

Has no one ever been falsely accused of anything?  This is a really stupid take and you should stop repeating it so confidently.  

Look, I thought he was gone when I first heard the story, but we're talking about a multi-million-dollar contract at a major public university.  They don't make snap judgments on such things.  To paraphrase, the Board of Regents doesn't take a dump without a plan, son. 

And the story has now changed quite a bit from the initial story three weeks ago, proving their decision to hold their fire and wait for more info correct.

Why don't you sit tight, remember that your opinion on this matter carries as much weight as my dog's, and see how it plays out?

 

Edited January 1, 2023 by TexArcher

[JesusSweatDuck 18149]

12 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Has no one ever been falsely accused of anything?  This is a really stupid take and you should stop repeating it so confidently.  

Look, I thought he was gone when I first heard the story, but we're talking about a multi-million-dollar contract at a major public university.  They don't make snap judgments on such things.  To paraphrase, the Board of Regents doesn't take a dump without a plan, son. 

And the story has now changed quite a bit from the initial story three weeks ago, proving their decision to hold their fire and wait for more info correct.

Why don't you sit tight, remember that your opinion on this matter carries as much weight as my dog's, and see how it plays out?

 

Your dog's opinion is probably more important TBH 

[TexArcher 39077]

1 minute ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Your dog's opinion is probably more important TBH 

Well, he's a good boy.

[MAUFRAIS 6746]

He’s just telling you what you want to hear.

[shadow_operative 15932]

39 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Your dog's opinion is probably more important TBH 

JFKFC's opinion is like a cow's opinion- it doesn't matter.

[jw4381 3251]

25 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

JFKFC's opinion is like a cow's opinion- it doesn't matter.

What if the cow is Bevo, smart guy?

[Hermanator 7683]

4 minutes ago, jw4381 said:

What if the cow is Bevo, smart guy?

Then it's a moo point

[Tex-19 3013]

14 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

also the reported facts all seem to point towards his fiancée being the aggressor and beard merely defending himself. 

Meh not really true. Read the original arrest report

[JohnnyRage 1617]

17 hours ago, Texas Wahoo said:

The contract is written such that the conduct is what is important, and not just the charge. I am not sure if that was intended or just lazily drafted. 

No it isn't. It has the all encompassing qualifier 'Any' in front of conduct and then the scenarios are separated by logical 'or's. That pretty explicitly means the conduct doesn't matter, the result matters. It's a giant cover-your-ass statement.

I'm not offering up an opinion on what the University should do, but just basing that on the linked contractual statement.

[Texas Wahoo 3631]

12 minutes ago, JohnnyRage said:

No it isn't. It has the all encompassing qualifier 'Any' in front of conduct and then the scenarios are separated by logical 'or's. That pretty explicitly means the conduct doesn't matter, the result matters. It's a giant cover-your-ass statement.

I'm not offering up an opinion on what the University should do, but just basing that on the linked contractual statement.

Agree to disagree on whether a court would rule that the word any would basically read out the word conduct. 
 

Arguably, “any conduct” would encompass walking on the street near where a crime was committed or sleeping with the prosecutor’s wife so that they tried to pin a crime on you, but I do not foresee a judge agreeing with that reading of UT’s contract. 

[chainsaw 10308]

At this point my gut says it's a 75% chance Beard comes back. What is more interesting to me is the shitshow that will accompany his return. Hit pieces about the university sweeping stuff under the rug, protests against UT athletics, and right-wing content creators looking to cash in on the controversy.

All of that is going to be a distraction for the team. If Beard comes back I wonder if he will handle it well. If not, that might place him on a hot seat in the following years. If he hasn't broken up with this woman, he will be on a short leash with Bellmont and the slightest peep could be the excuse UT will need to fire him for cause.

[Doc Daneeka 6793]

54 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

At this point my gut says it's a 75% chance Beard comes back. What is more interesting to me is the shitshow that will accompany his return. Hit pieces about the university sweeping stuff under the rug, protests against UT athletics, and right-wing content creators looking to cash in on the controversy.

All of that is going to be a distraction for the team. If Beard comes back I wonder if he will handle it well. If not, that might place him on a hot seat in the following years. If he hasn't broken up with this woman, he will be on a short leash with Bellmont and the slightest peep could be the excuse UT will need to fire him for cause.

At the risk of going CR, why “right-wing content creators” and not “left-wing content creators” where a completely predictable response is “oh, look at what the patriarchy allows”?

I agree that there will be vociferous reactions to Beard and the team if he does come back, as I think he probably will. 

Even if he does come back, this almost certainly has to be his one bite at the apple. Another episode of this type, he’ll, even with exonerating video, probably shows such poor judgment that he needs to be gone. 

[SilasCoade 2622]

16 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

At the risk of going CR 

Anytime you find yourself typing this, just stop, hit backspace, and forget about it.

[Doc Daneeka 6793]

Just now, SilasCoade said:

Anytime you find yourself typing this, just stop, hit backspace, and forget about it.

Yeah, probably for the best.

[TreatyOak 17410]

On the plus side, I really like the way the Horns put a stranglehold on OU's offense. We choked off their outlet passes, and pressed them til they didn't have room to breath. By holding their guards in a tight headlock, we cut off their passages to the basket. Their emergency call to the bench to try to police the baseline made sense, but I doubt their calls for charging will hold up with the Big 12 rules committee.  

[SL Xpress 7609]

I'm not sure if this thread could get any less informative while we all wait for something else substantive to come from the lawyers or the district attorney's office, but degrading into a conversation about right wing/left wing responses if he's cleared (it's not certain that's going to occur) and comparing his situation to reactions regarding Andrew Tate is a good way to do it. 

[chainsaw 10308]

8 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

I'm not sure if this thread could get any less informative while we all wait for something else substantive to come from the lawyers or the district attorney's office, but degrading into a conversation about right wing/left wing responses if he's cleared (it's not certain that's going to occur) and comparing his situation to reactions regarding Andrew Tate is a good way to do it. 

We don't need to quibble about the specifics of the distraction. The point is it will be a distraction.

[Rimbo 27090]

16 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

I'm not sure if this thread could get any less informative while we all wait for something else substantive to come from the lawyers or the district attorney's office, but degrading into a conversation about right wing/left wing responses if he's cleared (it's not certain that's going to occur) and comparing his situation to reactions regarding Andrew Tate is a good way to do it. 

I mean... well...

We're desperate for a resolution to this. This is really stressful to us, as fans. But literally nothing is happening. Speculation is happening because it's the only thing we can do.

The other option is to nuke the thread/delete posts/ban discussion until there is something newsworthy; I used to participate regularly at another message board where this is actually happening; a certain well-liked and respected poster was accused of making videos of torturing and murdering puppies for sexual gratification. The guy's name hasn't been officially released, but people in his hometown subreddit are not showing any such restraint. Needless to say, cutting out all discussion until real facts get known is understandable, even if we wouldn't do that ourselves.

My point is, the discussion does have a point -- we're mentally and emotionally wrestling with the bad news, using this thread to cope with it each in our own way. I am pretty much now in a "let's see what happens" mode, but others are going to need to vent, work through it, etc. JFKFC is being a royal pain in the ass in this thread, but has he been that awful of a poster before/elsewhere? Not really... it's just him trying to cope with the bad news in his way.

We don't have to come to this thread for news. If there is any, I suspect it'll be all over the place. The original arrest made the front page of the NY Times, man.

Meanwhile... people gotta vent and work through it.

Edited January 1, 2023 by Rimbo

[runthebone 8380]

25 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

On the plus side, I really like the way the Horns put a stranglehold on OU's offense. We choked off their outlet passes, and pressed them til they didn't have room to breath. By holding their guards in a tight headlock, we cut off their passages to the basket. Their emergency call to the bench to try to police the baseline made sense, but I doubt their calls for charging will hold up with the Big 12 rules committee.  

We throttled them, all right.

[petscii 1197]

23 minutes ago, runthebone said:

We throttled them, all right.

Well, OU did break our glasses....

[MAUFRAIS 6746]

Treaty Oak’s wordplay amused me just as much as his photoshops.

[JesusSweatDuck 18149]

3 hours ago, chainsaw said:

At this point my gut says it's a 75% chance Beard comes back. What is more interesting to me is the shitshow that will accompany his return. Hit pieces about the university sweeping stuff under the rug, protests against UT athletics, and right-wing content creators looking to cash in on the controversy.

All of that is going to be a distraction for the team. If Beard comes back I wonder if he will handle it well. If not, that might place him on a hot seat in the following years. If he hasn't broken up with this woman, he will be on a short leash with Bellmont and the slightest peep could be the excuse UT will need to fire him for cause.

 

2 hours ago, chainsaw said:

The left-wing response is mostly going to be covering the protests. Right-wing will show up to play "devil's advocate" and bemoan wokeism the way they are doing with the Andrew Tate arrest that has nothing to do with his beliefs and everything to do with his human trafficking.

Delete these posts they don't belong here. Go ahead and start a thread in the CR if you want to debate this bullshit

[HookEm 2509]

One thing this has thought me is that CDC does not run a leaky organization. Respek. Old administrations would have been leaking info like a mofo.  

[Nivek 17424]

8 minutes ago, HookEm said:

One thing this has thought me is that CDC does not run a leaky organization. Respek. Old administrations would have been leaking info like a mofo.  

without leaks, we just have to make shit up.  I heard from an Amazon delivery driver that drops off packages at my home in Houston, that his buddy in who delivers to Austin, said that a package was delivered to Beard's home and that it was slightly ripped and he could see it had an ice cream scooper inside.  Who buys an ice cream scooper for a home if they are planning to sell and move?  

[Brothahorn 10100]

2 hours ago, runthebone said:

We throttled them, all right.

[CTC2 2866]

46 minutes ago, HookEm said:

One thing this has thought me is that CDC does not run a leaky organization. Respek. Old administrations would have been leaking info like a mofo.  

There are plenty of leaks if you know where to look. 

[Zuerst 148]

48 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

There are plenty of leaks if you know where to look. 

Why you creeping in an incontinence clinic?

[HornOnTheBayou 9067]

4 hours ago, Rimbo said:

I used to participate regularly at another message board where this is actually happening; a certain well-liked and respected poster was accused of making videos of torturing and murdering puppies for sexual gratification.

[realgreggym 838]

55 minutes ago, Zuerst said:

Why you creeping in an incontinence clinic?

You will understand one day.

[Rimbo 27090]

1 hour ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Yeah.

It's pretty... horrifying.