1923

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4968]

It's a nice view.

 

Not in those pants it ain't. 

[billfromlaketravis 11364]

The Roman Catholic goon squad were a lot. I’m sure they existed, but it’s been jarring. 

[Augustus 3061]

15 hours ago, Dennis Taylor said:

Bronn's morning didn't turn out quite like he planned 

 

Had some mornings very much like that in my drinking days so I was laughing quite a bit at that.  As soon as we heard the knock at the door I was yelling at him not to answer.  Total rookie move.

Fascinating we got some spanking porn for no extra charge.

Interesting speech from Jacob on disregarding right/wrong and prioritizing only what's best for one's family.  A little over the top, really.  But I've never been in a survival situation like that and when the other guys are trespassing and threatening your livelihood, then ambushing you with machine guns I suppose one can arrive at "look out for number one" pretty easily.

Funny to see them going the law and order route in 1923, while 100 years later on the same ranch you get murdered just for being fired as a ranch hand.

[Augustus 3061]

52 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

The Roman Catholic goon squad were a lot. I’m sure they existed, but it’s been jarring. 

 

I had no problem feeling like the abuse in the school was realistic, but the goon squad you refer to is taking it quite bit further.  Catholic priests roaming the country side murdering Indians?  No idea if that really happened or if it's just dramatic license to represent real atrocities but, Jesus Christ.  

Not sure why we needed the reappearance of Alex's former fiance and family.  They've got enough obstacles to overcome.  They've got to get to Montana and haven't even dealt with Mussolini and the mafia yet.  It thought they were headed to Marseille?  Did they just decide to drop 'em off in Sicily so they could catch a ship to America more quickly?

[billfromlaketravis 11364]

2 minutes ago, Augustus said:

 

I had no problem feeling like the abuse in the school was realistic, but the goon squad you refer to is taking it quite bit further.  Catholic priests roaming the country side murdering Indians?  No idea if that really happened or if it's just dramatic license to represent real atrocities but, Jesus Christ.  

Not sure why we needed the reappearance of Alex's former fiance and family.  They've got enough obstacles to overcome.  They've got to get to Montana and haven't even dealt with Mussolini and the mafia yet.  It thought they were headed to Marseille?  Did they just decide to drop 'em off in Sicily so they could catch a ship to America more quickly?

Yep. The final shot of Season 1 will be Spencer arriving at The Yellowstone. Maybe if we're lucky we'll get Helen Mirren - Spencer embrace. Then the war begins in earnest in Season 2!

While I think Spencer being confronted by his in laws has some comedic value, but it's probably unnecessary for his story. 

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4968]

He's going to spend the rest of the season in Sicily trying to get out of that restaurant and then all of the sudden he will be in Montana.

[A-Tex Devil 2445]

I don’t watch Yellowstone.  If I did would the Indian School/runaway/priest plot line make sense?  I presume it ties into larger plot at some point. 
 

Getting Danni stuck in Essos vibes with Spencer and Alex.  

[billfromlaketravis 11364]

14 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

I don’t watch Yellowstone.  If I did would the Indian School/runaway/priest plot line make sense?  I presume it ties into larger plot at some point. 
 

Getting Danni stuck in Essos vibes with Spencer and Alex.  

If Danni's storyline in the show frustrated you, check out the books haha. 

[A-Tex Devil 2445]

1 minute ago, billfromlaketravis said:

If Danni's storyline in the show frustrated you, check out the books haha. 

Didn’t want to out myself, but yeah…

I presume there is a dude or two from the twenties (1920s) that Spencer is loosely based on given he is quasi-famous in the world of this show.   Anyone have thoughts on that? 

[Augustus 3061]

2 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

I don’t watch Yellowstone.  If I did would the Indian School/runaway/priest plot line make sense?  I presume it ties into larger plot at some point. 
 

Getting Danni stuck in Essos vibes with Spencer and Alex.  

The runaway school girl is an ancestor of a central character in Yellowstone, yes.

[utxmike05 1825]

Great episode on the US front....Spencer still treading water overseas. Is there 8 or 10 episodes this season?? 8 is coming up.

The Jacob speech at the table seems over the top, but it's how it was back then.  You look out for the family/land first.  That scene highlighted where this Dutton motto came from even in present day with John.

Noticed the red-head beard guy, who was hired as a livestock agent last episode, is now just hanging out and spying to report that Bronn was arrested?  Is he not an agent that would be on the arrest. Am I mixing up bearded guys?   I had read that when he was hired as an agent, there was a reason Jack recognized him....he was Bronn's friend.  Bronn went to his house after he attached the Duttons.

[Augustus 3061]

I thought he was the same guy, too, and assumed that Timothy Dalton wanted somebody inside the Livestock Commission.

[Not a cat 5622]

"you gave me too much money", said no prostitute ever.  Allegedly.

[A-Tex Devil 2445]

7 hours ago, Augustus said:

I thought he was the same guy, too, and assumed that Timothy Dalton wanted somebody inside the Livestock Commission.

Right.  He’s the dude Jake warned his wife about - the guy that charms you.  But fat T-1000 jumped the gun and hired him before she could object.  And lo and behold he’s a spy. 

[Augustus 3061]

16 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Right.  He’s the dude Jake warned his wife about - the guy that charms you.  But fat T-1000 jumped the gun and hired him before she could object.  And lo and behold he’s a spy. 

He's forever Davey Scatino to me.

The bust out of his sporting goods store was terrific.

[Knoxtnhorn 5940]

On 2/15/2023 at 3:15 PM, Augustus said:

Well at this rate, they'll have to fend off pirates on the open sea, then deal with the mobsters in Galveston and fight off some holdout Indian tribe on the way to Montana.  

Lol.  You were actually pretty close. Sicily; not Galveston.

[Dennis Taylor 18715]

17 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

.  But fat T-1000

That's what happens when you stop doing all that cardio

 

[troph 24577]

Fuck the Indian school Christianity bullshit. Man thats hard to watch. 

[shadow_operative2.0 15840]

That, my Surly friends, was a pretty goddamn good fucking episode. 

[RPM 26236]

Yup. Plenty of Spencer and Rainwater. "I got about 30 seconds of your bullshit before I stomp your face in."

[naija 2854]

Not sure the maneuver Whitfield is using is quite that straightforward, but maybe laws were a bit different then. Doesn't sound like your run of the mill tax lien. 

[Augustus 3061]

Good grief, can we let poor Spencer get to the fucking United States?  This is soap opera-ish with the non-stop obstructions.  Tugboat capsizes, then he's challenged to a duel and you just knew we wouldn't get to see him whip some ass and then that's that.  No, it's gotta end with the two of them getting separated, of course.  

I didn't know you could pay somebody's land taxes and then receive their land if they didn't pay you back.  Gotta see if that particular law is still on the books.

Wasn't thinking about the anti-miscegenation laws, I was just thinking they'd kill his family.

 

[Not a cat 5622]

Spencer with the Bill Bradley to aggy after the coinflip- it don't make a shit.

Interesting game theory about the rules of a duel.  Since the one challenged gets to pick weapons, I'd get really really good at one thing nobody else practices.  Then when someone challenges me I'd calmly say nunchucks or axe throwing.  People would learn you just let slide the insults from the obnoxious drunk guy with nunchucks hanging on his belt.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10150]

The Spencer story line just seemed disconnected. It could be its own show but intermixed just seemed to drag both out. His "character" will be able to finally get to Montana well before we'll actually get to see it. I'm just hoping it's in Episode 1 of Season 2.

[utxmike05 1825]

Great episode, but Mfer that shouldn't be the finale....  A few months ago my worst case scenario prediction for Spencer was that he arrives at Yellowstone on the finale episode.  Well fuck me.  They drug out his overseas escapades too much, it was fun in the beginning.  I am OK with his situation on the ship, but make that happen like 2 episodes ago.  They take 1 step forward and 2 steps back with their storyline.  It will probably take them half of season 2 just to get to Yellowstone. Fukin Sheridan. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by utxmike05

[Mac8111 2103]

That was the finale? Oh shit

[Augustus 3061]

8 hours ago, utxmike05 said:

Great episode, but Mfer that shouldn't be the finale....  A few months ago my worst case scenario prediction for Spencer was that he arrives at Yellowstone on the finale episode.  Well fuck me.  They drug out his overseas escapades too much, it was fun in the beginning.  I am OK with his situation on the ship, but make that happen like 2 episodes ago.  They take 1 step forward and 2 steps back with their storyline.  It will probably take them half of season 2 just to get to Yellowstone. Fukin Sheridan. 

Couldn't agree more.

An audience can only take so much manufactured bullshit for the protagonist to endure.

Ken Follet went crazy with that shit in Pillars of the Earth and its sequels.  The reason those novels were 18,000 pages long is because every time it looked like something positive might happen for the characters you're rooting for, God would send the 10 plagues of Egypt on them.

[billfromlaketravis 11364]

I liked the finale, but Spencer get sidetracked again is frustrating. 

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

An entire season of build up and nothing. Ending fucking sucked

[HOOKEM4 5026]

This is a show, along with the others, you ignore for years and see if they end up well received.  Then you watch them later. It is brutal to watch this molasses storyline.  We know what is going to happen, why drag it out with boring slow bullshit. (I know why)

[Augustus 3061]

I will say, despite my obvious frustration with the overboard challenges for Spencer to deal with (ha! overboard!) I still think this show is very good, and definitely superior to Yellowstone and 1883.

 

[Augustus 3061]

I loved how, when spurned British aristocrat went flying off the ship into the Atlantic, somebody just tossed a life preserver in his general direction and was like, "See ya! We've got a schedule to keep, homie."

 

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2724]

I loved how, when spurned British aristocrat went flying off the ship into the Atlantic, somebody just tossed a life preserver in his general direction and was like, "See ya! We've got a schedule to keep, homie."
 

I laughed at that too.
None of them made an attempt to move. Just a light toss of the preserver and move on.

[FartingMonk 3606]

The Indian boarding school thing definitely was real.

[BearSchlong 8078]

I loved how, when spurned British aristocrat went flying off the ship into the Atlantic, somebody just tossed a life preserver in his general direction and was like, "See ya! We've got a schedule to keep, homie."
 

I’m assuming he got chewed up by the props, right?

[billfromlaketravis 11364]

2 hours ago, HOOKEM4 said:

This is a show, along with the others, you ignore for years and see if they end up well received.  Then you watch them later. It is brutal to watch this molasses storyline.  We know what is going to happen, why drag it out with boring slow bullshit. (I know why)

Yeah the week to week format is a bit maddening. I think about The Sopranos. I’d spend the whole week worrying about how one of my favorite characters might get whacked, and then Sunday would roll around it’s Livia comes over for dinner or Carmela bitching to her priest. 
 

1923, 1883 are both pure streamers. If you’re paying $10 a month for Paramount + you should able to watch an entire season. 

[F250 28711]

On 2/26/2023 at 8:34 PM, Not a cat said:

Spencer with the Bill Bradley to aggy after the coinflip- it don't make a shit.

Interesting game theory about the rules of a duel.  Since the one challenged gets to pick weapons, I'd get really really good at one thing nobody else practices.  Then when someone challenges me I'd calmly say nunchucks or axe throwing.  People would learn you just let slide the insults from the obnoxious drunk guy with nunchucks hanging on his belt.

 

[RPM 26236]

2 hours ago, BearSchlong said:

I’m assuming he got chewed up by the props, right?

If the 70ft fall didn't kill him, then sure why not.

[Texzilla58 4717]

Fuck the Indian school Christianity bullshit. Man thats hard to watch. 

We are a bit behind because each episode has something horrific thrown in by Taylor Sheridan to make sure we know how awful things were. My wife just goes into hysterics with the endless beatings of Indian girls by evil nuns, we get it Taylor can we advance that story line? The awful things he shows with animals like a dog with it’s guts hanging out has killed her viewing of Yellowstone.

[utxmike05 1825]

10 hours ago, BearSchlong said:

I’m assuming he got chewed up by the props, right?

Definitely the water killed him...can be like hitting concrete from certain heights.

I thought it was funny the next day his dad barely seemed to be mourning when they sent Spencer off.

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

11 hours ago, FartingMonk said:

The Indian boarding school thing definitely was real.

It was and it was covered up for a long time.  Only recently have there been "discoveries" of all the bodies of Native American children.

[F250 28711]

They got married in international waters by a British naval captain to avoid immigration issues. A little bit later the validity of their marriage is questioned and Spencer replies with "I don't have any documentation just a ring and love." How was that going to help with immigration?

In previous episodes a point was made that all of these British ships could communicate with each other and when pushed for proof of a marriage Spencer replies with "Some British dude married us on a ship."

Your killing me Smalls.

Also, did he really need to fling that dude out to sea? I mean it was funny but he could have just flung him into the railing. It was also bad form to just keep smacking down that dude only for him to keep escalating the situation. It would have been better to knock his ass out instead of just humiliating him. The entire scene felt forced.

[RPM 26236]

41 minutes ago, F250 said:

Also, did he really need to fling that dude out to sea?

Need? Eh...

[cmontexas 3255]

It feels like the original John Dutton and his wife should have gotten a little more shine or buildup. The one surviving character from 1883 and I think he had one line spelling out Sheridans weekly social commentary (THANGS ARE CHANGIN) before getting whacked.

And his poor wife offed herself and her own son didn't even notice and told his new wife that his aunt raised him

[cmontexas 3255]

Also, Teonna's last name being Rainwater and Gil Birminghams character in present day also being named Rainwater is not a promising sign for the longevity of Joe Runs His Horse

[Augustus 3061]

It's still weird for me to think of young Jack as Dabney Coleman's father.

[BearSchlong 8078]

They got married in international waters by a British naval captain to avoid immigration issues. A little bit later the validity of their marriage is questioned and Spencer replies with "I don't have any documentation just a ring and love." How was that going to help with immigration?
In previous episodes a point was made that all of these British ships could communicate with each other and when pushed for proof of a marriage Spencer replies with "Some British dude married us on a ship."
Your killing me Smalls.
Also, did he really need to fling that dude out to sea? I mean it was funny but he could have just flung him into the railing. It was also bad form to just keep smacking down that dude only for him to keep escalating the situation. It would have been better to knock his ass out instead of just humiliating him. The entire scene felt forced.

Certainly the ship captain would have provided an affidavit of some kind, right?

Also I googled and found out that passports weren’t a thing until the League of Nations standardized them following WWI. In 1920 the USA started issuing them, more or less as a standard document.

[F250 28711]

10 hours ago, RPM said:

Need? Eh...

They should have paused when the Earl of Sussex was in midair and used A.I. Waylon Jennings voice to narrate. "It looks like Spencer has screwed the pooch this time. Will the Earl of Sussex perish at sea? Will Spencer make it back to Uncle Jessie in time? Stay tuned until next year to find out."

 

[troph 24577]

On 2/28/2023 at 9:05 AM, Texzilla58 said:

We are a bit behind because each episode has something horrific thrown in by Taylor Sheridan to make sure we know how awful things were. My wife just goes into hysterics with the endless beatings of Indian girls by evil nuns, we get it Taylor can we advance that story line? The awful things he shows with animals like a dog with it’s guts hanging out has killed her viewing of Yellowstone.

Mine refused to watch Yellowstone, 1883 and 1923 because of the horse shooting in the first 10 mins of episode one of Yellowstone.

[troph 24577]

On 2/28/2023 at 9:20 PM, F250 said:

They should have paused when the Earl of Sussex was in midair and used A.I. Waylon Jennings voice to narrate. "It looks like Spencer has screwed the pooch this time. Will the Earl of Sussex perish at sea? Will Spencer make it back to Uncle Jessie in time? Stay tuned until next year to find out."

 

Ok this is funny.